Statistical Roundup: The Mike Van Ryn Edition

by on December 2, 2008 in Uncategorized - 27 Comments

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One of the Hot Stove readers asked for an update on how the Leafs have fared without Mike Van Ryn. And the results are actually quite surprising.

(Statistics provided courtesy of NHL.com)

Currently, the Leafs sit at 9-9-6, after last night’s win in LA.

Prior to the 6-3 win against Montreal, in which Van Ryn was hurt, the Leafs had a 5-5-4 record with 41 goals for and 51 goals against. Which works out to 2.93 GF per game, and 3.64 GA per game.

Including that win over Montreal, the Leafs have gone 4-4-2 in his absence, with 33 goals for and 32 goals against. Which equates to per-game averages of 3.3 GF, and 3.2 GA.

Note: I have included the Montreal game in the stats for games he has missed, as his injury occurred early in the first period of that game.

Remarkably, the Leafs have actually managed to reduce the number of goals against (3.64 to 3.2) despite missing a player who is arguably their top defender, this year. Is that a knock on Van Ryn? No, not at all.

Part of it is that the team was still rounding into form when he went down, and their play was bound to improve in many areas as the players got more comfortable with each other, and Ron Wilson’s system. But another part of it is the Injury Effect:

Often, what happens in the case of a major injury is other players on the team are forced to step up their games, in order to compensate for that player’s absence. We see this in pro sports all the time; when a key player goes down, his teammates will either sink or swim in his absence … and the Leafs have been swimming quite strongly, from the look of it.

Here’s hoping Van Ryn’s teammates’ inspired play keeps up once he returns (I’ve heard he’ll be back in the next week or two).

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  • Scot Loucks

    Garrett;

    This all started when you suggested the money would have been better spent on a physical forward rather than clogging up the defensive core….. correct?

    The thing is the Leafs had plenty of cap space to do both.

    My guess is there just wasn’t a physical forward out there that fit the requirements. You named a few earlier …. but again how do they fit into the model Cliff was looking for (I’m too busy to check right now).

    Cliff was looking for players under 30 and ensuring no player was signed beyond their 32nd birthday. Speed and youth on the front end.

    You also mention Kronwall… I have been a fan of Kronwall for some time but he is not a fair comparison to Finger or Frogren… he is not yet a shut down guy. I am hoping he is a late bloomer like his brother.

    The one guy the Leafs did have on the Marlies (Jay Harrison) they let go…. I believe he is playing in Europe.

    The problem with the Leaf D for a number of years has been they are way too soft. Especially in front of the net. That is what Finger and (luckily Schenn) have brought this team. Van Ryn seems to fit the bill as well. Frogren isn’t quick enough of foot or experienced enough on the smaller rink. I think a stint with the Marlies would be good for him.

    Anyway… my two cents.

    Cheers

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  • Garrett Bauman

    I hear you, but I didn’t suggest that Kronwall would be as good as either Finger or Frogren. In fact, none of the discussion had anything to do – at any point – with a talent evaluation of Jeff Finger.

    For me, if this year is going to be a rebuilding year, and if the number of wins is not altogether that important (as many have suggested for this season), then why not see what some of the young kids in the organization, who have not had a real shot at NHL ice, are made of? Why not see what they can do? There is nothing to lose, anyway, right?

    My point was, if 3.5m is going to be spent one way or the other, I’d have rather seen it spent on some grit, some agitation, up front (no, not Sean Avery, definitely not worth it). But on a player who can skate on the 2nd or 3rd line, get chippy, open up the ice a bit, and be an ON-ice distraction, so the young guys can ultimately have some more room to operate – which will aid their development greatly. Every team needs those gritty agitators who can contribute offensively here and there … and the Leafs are lacking that.

    It has nothing to do with Finger, as a player … I just think when looking at what this roster lacks (which is plenty) – and I’m speaking in terms of STYLES of play – I would rank grit first, defensive depth second.

    That’s where I was coming from, with all that. Anyway, over and done with. People disagree, and that’s cool. That’s what makes these discussions so interesting!

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