Pogge’s Time to Shine

by on December 21, 2008 in Uncategorized - 13 Comments

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Ed. Note: The timing seems just about right as the Leafs play Atlanta in Atlanta on Monday. Obviously, Ron Wilson will have to test him in spotlight of the ACC but this seems like the perfect scenario for Pogge to get the first one under his belt. If this experiment goes well, it may mean that Curtis Joseph will hang up his skates, assume a coaching position of some sort and Justin Pogge will back-up Toskala with a healthy dosage of appearances…. not to get too far ahead of myself, though.
It appears Vesa Toskala has been complaining of a sore groin for some time, and during the Leafs’ 7-3 win over the Pens last night, the soreness had reached a limit. TSN is reporting that Toskala will be out of the lineup when the Leafs face the Thrashers on Monday.

For goaltending prospect Justin Pogge, this is the best news of the season (but he won’t tell you that).

Toskala’s performances have been better of late. He’s been slowly regaining form, but hasn’t yet found the game that made him critically acclaimed in Toronto last season. Perhaps this groin injury had a part to play, especially considering the style of the Finnish goaltender, which revolves heavily around agility, speed and acrobatics.

In any case, this could be a win-win for the Leafs. If the injury really was holding Toskala back, then some time to rehabilitate could mean the emergence of the goaltender we all knew and praised last season.

More importantly, Pogge can finally play in his 1st career NHL game. And at 22, it’s about time.

If Pogge can prove to Brian Burke that he belongs in a Maple Leafs jersey, the chances of him playing for the 2009-10 Leafs squad will be elevated. Not only that, but he can potentially stand as the Leafs’ starting goaltender next season.

It’s a feasible scenario considering the success he generated in his junior career. I won’t go on driveling about it, just take a look:

  • 2006 – World Junior Hockey Championship gold medal
  • 2006 – World Junior Hockey Championship Team Canada MVP
  • 2006 – Four Broncos Memorial Trophy – Player of the Year in the WHL
  • 2006 – Del Wilson Trophy – Top goaltender in the WHL
  • 2006 – CHL Goaltender of the Year

In the AHL, however, Pogge hasn’t matched that kind of success. In 89 career games, he’s accumulated a 45-34 record, a 2.70 GAA, a .901 SV% and 7 SO. Not bad, but nowhere near good enough to rank his as a top goaltending prospect.

In his defense, it could be argued that poor management has held him back. Considering this is Pogge’s first season in the AHL as a starting goaltender, I would say it’s a likely scenario. Look no further than last year’s playoffs, when head coach Greg Gilbert opted to use journeyman Scott Clemmenson as the starting goaltender over Justin Pogge, who recorded better stats than his 30-year old AHL teammate.

And now, the Marlies are in the midst of a terrible season, struggling in all facets of the game. No offense to the Marlies management, but Pogge’s departure, even temporarily, will help develop his game.

Which brings me to my point. If Pogge does play well enough to earn him a roster spot, don’t expect it to come until next season. The Leafs are essentially handcuffed with Joseph, and don’t expect them to send him to the pressbox. Joseph has earned his respect, and the Leafs will not embarrass the 40-year old by benching him.

Pogge will have to showcase his talent, and bide his time until next season. If he does make a strong case to become starting goaltender for the Leafs, expect Burke to trade Toskala in the off-season or at the NHL Trade Deadline (which would mean Pogge finishing the season).

Prediction: Pogge plays solid between the pipes and is appointed starting goaltender by the end of next year’s training camp.

You stay classy, MLHS.

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  • hockey_guru

    Justin will have to come up and play a real good string of games to stay up. I’m hoping he does well enough to convince CuJo it’s time to hang em up. A Toskala-Pogge tandem is exactly what we need to happen.

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  • Blair

    It’s been said in the media that exploratory discussions with Cujo have already taken place for him to retire and step in to a goalie coach position at some point. He still believes he can contribute but he’s a realist, he knows he’s struggling and if Pogge can show he can play at the NHL level I would expect to see Cujo hang them up knowing he’s not leaving the Leafs in the cold. If Pogge falters though, and expect him to get more than one chance before any decisions are made, look for Cujo to retire once Burke lands another goaltender. Either way, it will be exciting to see another prospect get their chance.

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  • vesku35

    Interesting, would that make Pogge the backup Blair?

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  • Jim

    Good post.

    I could see Pogge taking advantage of this opportunity with flying colours but I could also see this going south very fast. From what I’ve seen from Pogge in the Ricoh he’s not good enough yet and I wonder if he ever will be. You’re right though, Ron, that the Marlies are no good this year. Last year Pogge’s stats were much better when he was splitting duty for a much better team. We’ll just have to see.

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  • Ron Guillet

    Very interesting note, Alec (and Blair for bringing it up)..

    It’s no secret that Joseph is struggling in the crease, and it’s becoming apparent that his body is holding him back from performing even decently for his club. His knowledge, however, can not be questioned. He knows how to find success in between the pipes, and if Pogge does indeed take his role as the back-up goaltender, this will prove to be a big step in his development.

    Very exciting news if it happens!

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  • http://admin Alec Brownscombe

    Blair is exactly right, I’ve been hearing about this for a little while now.

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  • Burn

    I think it’s just luck, but on Friday I posted about Pogge getting a chance to play for the Leafs soon, and now it’s happening!! I also made a comment about a possible trade scenario that I think might make sense for both teams involving Toskala, assuming that Pogge does well and Management has faith in him.

    http://mapleleafshotstove.proboards106.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=249&page=1

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  • vesku35

    Good call Burn.

    Alec also called it last Monday in his Scuttlebutt blog

    http://mapleleafshotstove.com/index.php/2008/12/15/the-latest-scuttlebutt-in-leafland/

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  • deMarcus

    Good scoop Alec.

    I’ve been wondering when Burke was going to test Pogge’s mettle. To be honest, I don’t think he’s ready.

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  • Scot Loucks

    Is it really better for Pogge to back up Toskala? Or would he be better served getting the majority of the starts for the Marlies?

    I predict a good game out of him in Atlanta…. but it’s Atlanta …. and I’m sure the rest of the Blue and White will be well aware that they have a rookie in their net.

    I’d like to see Cujo get a few starts in a row before tossing him aside. I personally don’t think Pogge is ready for NHL prime time.

    Cheers

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  • Blair

    I haven’t heard of whether the plan is for Pogge to take the reigns or back up but I can’t imagine he’s going to come in here like Price did in Montreal. He just doesn’t look sharp in the AHL whereas Price was stellar. I can see the concern for him being a back up and not getting the starting minutes he would in the AHL but it’s a similar argument as with Schenn not returning to the WHL. Furthermore, it seems Pogge has a bit of an ego and perhaps stroking that a bit with some NHL starts will provide him with focus. He’s got the skill it just needs refinement and maybe that’s where being amongst Toskala and Cujo, as well as with the goalie coach Hirsch (sp?), may be better for his development even if he is only a 1 out of 4 starts goalie.

    I still think Toskala, barring an injury, is gone at the deadline. It’s up to Pogge to make his case as a starter starting monday. He’ll either be the starter from the deadline on or he’ll be seeing split or back-up duty.

    Personally, he doesn’t seem ready and perhaps the best thing for him is either back-up or split duty. It will push him better than just giving him the keys.

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  • Roacho

    There are a lot of variables. What I would hope for is that Pogge comes up and is stellar or to the least solid and consistent in net for the Leafs. He then gains Burke’s confidence, which would prompt in the decision to trade Toskala at the trade deadline for the right price. Pogge looked good in the exhibition games, but this is a whole new ball game, but I think he’s ready for this challenge.

    Pogge’s worked hard in the AHL and does deserve a shot at impressing the big club. I hope this does work out because it could pottentially mean that the rebuilding process will continue to move along.

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  • Matt

    You guys keep saying that pogge doesnt seem ready, but hes 22 now and its either now or never. He’ll either come up and do well and stay or do poorly and be sent back down. He needs some exposure to the NHL so see how it affects his focus.

    Like i said, its either now or never

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