Vorobiev Traded from Lada – Implications?

by on January 8, 2009 in Uncategorized - 22 Comments

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Some of the news making the rounds this morning in Russia includes the trade of one of the league’s top young defenders, Leaf prospect Dmitri Vorobiev from Tolyatti Lada to Salavat Yulaev Ufa. This trade moves Vorobiev from Lada, a small market team bottom feeder to a larger market team currently sitting atop the league standings. It should allow Dmitri the opportunity to get some more recognition amongst the hockey world as well as provide him with the chance at a deep KHL playoff run.

Why should we care? Well on the surface, Vorobiev certainly seems to be the ideal defensive prospect that the Leafs would be looking for. He was drafted by the Leafs in the 5th round, 157th overall in the 2004 draft despite coming in as one of the draft’s top eligible European defensive prospects. The reason he fell so far was due to a poor performance at the NHL combine, with scouts becoming worried about him not being in great physical shape. At the time, he was regarded predominantly as a one-way defensive shutdown player with a big-time physical game. He was a little undersized, but made up for it with sheer ferocity and reckless playing style that helped him draw comparisons to former Leaf Dany Markov.

Since then, his stock has gone nowhere but up, up and up. Entering the ’04 draft in the 5’11 – 6’0 range, there was question as to whether or not his body would be able to keep up with his playing style later on down the road. The latest measurements have Vorobiev checking in at a very sturdy 6’2 and 212 lbs. As for his limited offensive game? No longer a issue; in fact, it’s now one of his greatest strengths. He first began to show some flashes of offensive potential during the 2005 World Juniors when he posted 6 points in 6 games for Team Russia. Coming off 3, 8, and 9 point seasons from 2003 – 2006, something just clicked for Vorobiev in the ’06-’07 season,  and he doubled his point total to record 10 goals and 7 assists for 17 points. The next season, he followed that up with a 28 point season that included a league leading 16 goals for a defenseman. This season, he’s already got 18 points playing for one of the worst teams in the league. That amounts to roughly a 0.5 PPG rate over the past 2 seasons which is very impressive considering the KHL does not count secondary assists. Another big plus is that he certainly seems NHL ready and could potentially step right into a top 4 spot right now. His potential? Probably as a second pairing shutdown defenseman and 2nd unit PP quarterback. Not too shabby at all, and with he and Schenn patrolling the Leafs blueline for the next few years, it would finally make opposing players wary of coming into the zone with their head down.

So the Leafs have a big, rugged (potentially crazy) defenseman who led the KHL in goals at the age of 23. Why isn’t he over here already?

As Alec talked about previously here, there’s been ongoing issues between the Leafs and Vorobiev and a lot of confusion regarding the whole situation. On one end, it seems like the Leafs aren’t making much of a push to get him over here (Vorobiev himself mentioned in a Russian paper that the Leafs have not even offered him a contract yet), and on the other, it was known that Vorobiev was very comfortable playing for a small market like Lada where he has grown very close to the team, the city, and the coaching staff. He recently signed an extension there, and the only way he could come over now is if he bought out his own contract like Jonas Frogren (see Alec’s blog for more).

So now we’ve come full circle. What does the trade have to do with all of this? Well, I’m just throwing out an idea here, but it seems like now or after the season would be the perfect opportunity for the Leafs to make a run at Vorobiev. First of all, he fits the Burke mold of a player down to a tee. Big, physical, and to quote Burke: “thinks he’s from Red Deer”. Secondly, for the first time in his professional career, Vorobiev has been uprooted from his comfortable situation in Lada and is now exploring the rest of the hockey world for the first time. Now is the time to jump at him with a big contract offer before he settles down long-term again. The chance to add a previously-thought-to-be-lost bluechip defensive prospect has certainly got to be tempting, does it not?

Let’s see how the rest of this season plays out for Dmitri, and it should certainly be an interesting storyline to follow this coming summer.

Always a pleasure,

Alex Tran

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  • Mark Ribble

    Great update, Alex.
    I agree, if there is going to be a window of opportunity to get Vorobiev under contract, the time is now.
    I’ve yet to see any footage of him but if he’s as good as you say he is, BB needs to make a push like never before.
    Imagine a defence corp that includes Vorobiev, Schenn, Finger, and Frogren. Throw in a powerplay quarterback and you’ve got a scary group.

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  • Ryan

    I agree with you that Burke needs to make a move. What also should help our case is the fact the KHL is having some financial issues, so the top players from the KHL could be clambering to get back into the NHL. I like the sounds of this kid if he can make the transition to the smaller ice surface then we will have another quality defence prospect, something we clearly can’t give up on without a fight, and if Burke is as persistent as he claims to be then there will at least be an effort put forth to get him.

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  • Jeff

    If Burke really wants to gain some loyal Leafs fans confidence (especially the prospect junkies like myself), he’s gotta sign this guy and bring him over. It pained me to see his statistical progress through the years as I knew he had no interest in coming over. Like you mentioned, there may be a small window in which we can sign this guy now that he’s unsure of his future. Get it done Burke!

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  • JENS

    I have watched him in a couple of games for Russia. He is an NHLer if he wants to thats for sure. He reminded me of Ohlund(in those games), pretty smooth with the puck and reliable.

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  • twiztedmike

    Send this article to Burke.

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  • Leafsfan41

    I hope he comes over and doesn’t disappoint. The name Maxim Kondriatiev comes to mind…

    I love the idea of having a young stud like this on the blue line along with Schenn, Finger, Frogren and possibly White & Kubina. I do believe Kaberle will be gone at some point, whether it is his choosing or ours remains to be seen.

    Kubina…I think we’ll retain him. I think he is a guy the rest of the team look too a little bit for leadership, and he’s been nothing but solid this season.

    Back to Vorobiev…I LOVE the idea of him being in our lineup as early as next year. I really hope we can get him over. If he comes as advertised, he will be a welcome addition to our D for years to come hopefully.

    Great post Alex!

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  • http://www.sportsandthecity.com eyebleaf

    The pleasure is ours, Alex.

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  • CarltontheBear

    Would be great if the once thought to be lost prospect finds his way over here :D

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  • I B Leaf

    Well Leafsfan41 I think Vorobiev comming over would put Kubina on his way out maybe not right away but soon after. I remember talking a lot about this guy years ago, but like most fans had written him off. He did not seem too interested in making the move to the NHL. His game is a rich man’s Kubina, much like Boyle’s game which made Kubina expendable in TB. At his age he may have developed his scoring and confidence enough that pairing him with Schenn would make for a young, physical Defensive pairing that could really make the Leafs a team others hate to play against.

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  • Burn

    Encouraging!!! Hopefully we’ll see him over here shortly!!

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  • dan
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  • Blair

    Couldn’t agree more Alex. And those defensive pairings posted by Dan sure sound great – not even including Jay-Bo. I think one of the tantalizing aspects of Vorobiev joining the Leafs would be top four minutes.

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  • Chance

    I would drool at the defensive pairings of:

    Schenn Ellis
    Finger Vorobiev
    Frogren Stralman

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  • Leafsfan41

    I like the 5 guys chance and dan have listed. I think White fits in with either Schenn or Finger if Jay-Bo isn’t an option, although I prefer him on wing and on point for the PP (second unit).

    I do think Kubina is still in the picture for now, but we’ll see if that changes at the draft.

    Drafting Ryan Ellis…do you think he would be available by pick 10-15??

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  • betterforsome

    So do we hold Vorobiev’s rights in perpetuity, as an unsigned European draft pick? I imagine sooner or later he’ll become an NHL-eligible free agent, like Frogen did after being drafted by the Flames in ’98, even if he has no intention of coming to North America.

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  • http://admin Alec Brownscombe

    Until he becomes of UFA age at 27

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  • Garrett Bauman

    @Chance:
    Looking at the Leaf depth chart, I don’t think Burke will draft a defender this year, unless all the top forward prospects are gone. I also don’t believe that Ellis fits the mold of a Burke-type player (Evander Kane would be a good fit, if the Leafs are drafting in the likely 6-10 slot). Personally, I would be thrilled with the selection of Ellis — but I just don’t see it happening.

    @Dan
    Don’t forget about Ian White — he is still young and could develop into a pretty good PP weapon yet. I don’t see him as a top-pairing player, but he has shown many flashes of having potential as a second-pairing defender, and PP quarterback. The question is, will he reach that potential?

    Also, I don’t think there is any way that J-Bo reaches the FA market. If Florida feels they cannot sign him, he will be dealt, and I have a feeling that the team that trades for him will find a way to get a deal done — especially after witnessing Brian Campbell walk away from the Sharks.

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  • Captain

    The fact the leafs dont have any real depth on D in prospects, and Vorobiev really coming into his own in Russia, Burke really needs to try his best to get him over here and have him feel comfortbale and wanted by the organization. Him being traded to a big market team in the KHL will hopefully benefit the leafs as he could see the upside in living in that type of a market in which could be compared to Toronto.

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  • the_cause2000

    One player I would like to see the Leafs use a second 1st round pick with next season is Taylor Doherty of the Kingston Frontenacs. 6-8 225 and 17 years old. Mean as hell too, as I watch him any time I’m back home in Ktown

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