TANKS BUT NO TANKS?

by on January 16, 2009 in Uncategorized - 137 Comments

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To tank or not to tank, that is the question.


It’s a question that resonates far and wide.

It’s a question that undoubtedly gets asked in other cities when their club is struggling and the second coming of Gretzky is on the horizon.

It’s not the question that is causing the commotion. It’s the answer. Or answers.

From where I sit, I can see two main schools of thought on “tanking” a season. One side hopes the team will lose every game, therefore “guaranteeing” them of the draft pick they’ve so long desired.

The other side faithfully roots for their team, come hell or high water.

The division of these sides may be generational. With old school guys (like myself) generally siding with the “Go Leafs Go” mentality.

Younger fans seem to fit into the “Blow Leafs Blow” mentality, hoping that short term pain will bring long term gain.

My son, who is a staunchly loyal 23 year-old Leaf fan, tells me he hopes they lose every game for the rest of the year so they can be in a better draft position.

Myself, as much as I want this team to be a dynamo in a few years, can’t find it within me to root against my Leafs.

Granted, if it comes down to the last game of the season and they have to lose to be guaranteed one of the top two picks, I could probably be persuaded to hope for a loss. At that point, everything is lost anyway. What’s one more game, right?

Maybe it’s not generational. Maybe it’s just me against the world on this. Maybe I’m not seeing the “bigger picture”.

All I know is that watching this team struggle is not easy, but then again, it wasn’t easy in 84-85 or 90-91, but I got through it and managed to have a few years scattered here and there, that weren’t too bad.

I also realize that the closest they came to the cup in the last 41 years was to the conference finals in 1993. Forty-one years as a Leaf fan. Sheesh.

Is it so bad to want your team to win every time they step on the ice?

And tell the truth “tankers”, do you actually watch the game and root for the other team?

Or is it more a case of apathy, not really caring and just shaking your head in disgust?

I’m really trying to wrap my head around the whole “tank” idea.

I see posts on this site from guys saying “I love it. They lost again! Tavares here we come!”

I just can’t imagine saying that about my team.

So here’s the deal.

Post responses here, and without getting all riled up, calling each other names and resorting to insults, let’s have a roll call of who are tankers and who are lifers. State your age too if you don’t mind, so that it will prove or disprove my theory on generation.

Thanks!

Or should I say “tanks”?

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  • KLM-Line

    Not living in NA (Germany that is) and thus not growing up with a draft system I should point out that this weird contradicting “mind vs heart” situation is due to the system installed in American pro sports. You pretty much have to loose to get better (few exceptions to that). Ending up somewhere in middle in the long run prooved to be even more lethal to a franchise.

    Back to my point. Without demoting (or is called relegation?) there is not much incentive for a team to do better. Comparing the American system to the European (soccer for example) you actually have much more dedication/heart invested when your team is struggling, maybe confronting its fading existance in the league. At times a whole city/region is at pulse of their team`s fight for survival. It seems to me you have the opposite with NA teams as they only get more coverage/audience when doing well/being on a cup run. Again certain exceptions to that – Toronto is one as hockey hub.

    Not saying any system is better by default but if the worst display of effort gains a team their future hope one is bound to this ambigous situation. No escape! This being said I love the Leafs and stick to focus on indivdual performance/plays while we are in the painfull experience called rebuild.
    31 years old btw.

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  • Matt Swagg

    23 yrs old and I’m with the tanking idea I live in Oshawa and have been watchin John Tavares play since he was 15… until he got traded like 2 weeks ago… I’d love 2 see him in a Leafs uniform… I love the Leafs and I do cheer whether they win or lose… They’re usually a hard working team and things should be better in a few years…

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  • Jane Franks

    I have watched the good and bad Leafs teams and have found it pretty disheartening to watch any of the then since the lockout. I saw the Leafs win the cup several times, and I always figured I’d see it again. This year, although I am not actively rooting against the Leafs, I don’t get as bent out of shape when they lose. Yes, I survived those other lousy teams you mentioned 84/85 and 90/91. But this is different. It may have taken me longer to get to the point of neutrality (rather than a true tanker) but I think it has something to do with seeing my dad die without the Leafs winning again (he was very patient), and knowing something has to change, something BIG, if the same is not to be my fate. I cheer when the Leafs score, cheer when they win, but a small part of me doesn’t mind as much when they lose. Not sure what this does for your theory, but generally I think you are right about the generational thing.

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  • Mark Ribble

    Thanks, folks!
    A whole lot of good reading and theories

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  • Eric

    I’m 19 born and raised Leafs fan. and i’m a Lifer, definately not a tanker and couldn’t cheer for the Leafs too lose. i’ll be happy come draft day and we have a high pick but only as a result of the Leafs playing their hearts out but just not being good enough.

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  • Matt

    Matt 19 year old leaf fan..have loved the leaf since I was 3. I’m both a tanker and a lifer only because I love the leafs so much it doesn’t matter if they tank or try and make the playoffs i’ll love them no matter what

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  • Rick

    There is no such thing as tanking for real. The fact is the team just sucks, which mean they will place in the bottom of the league anyways. Can make this team suck even more? sure…but that is not really tanking, just trading up for the future.

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