Would the Leafs be better off drafting a defenseman?

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by Darkjester

Many Leaf fans are counting down the days until Draft Day 2009, when we anticipate that our beloved Leafs will draft the franchise player that will lead the blue and white to the promise land. Some dream of John Tavares after witnessing him lead Team Canada to Gold at the WJC. Others dream about Evander Kane and his amazing hands or Brayden Schenn, who seems to be the Burke archetype we could all potentially revere. What you’re not typically finding on fans’ wish lists is a defenseman, which most aren’t prioritizing due to the fact we have, in some beliefs, eight NHL-caliber d-men. We do lack the type of star player upfront that can potentially compete for the league lead in goals. So I ask the question: is that really what this team needs right now?

Looking at some stats, the Leafs are tied in 12th overall with 150GF in the NHL and are 7th overall in the east. That’s not too bad for a team that supposedly only has one top 6 forward. So why, then, are the Leafs bottom feeding this year as they will continue to do for the next year or so? Some will be quick to point out the fact that our goaltending has been less than stellar which at this point seems irrefutable. Toskala has let in his fair amount of weak goals this year but let’s not place all the blame on his shoulders as two other goalies have also donned the pads this season and neither have fared a whole lot better (Pogge’s solid play despite 5GA against says a lot). The Leafs’ defense, which in pre-season was touted as our best blue-line assemblage in years, has really laid an egg this year and it’s definitely not been of the golden variety. The Leafs are dead last in goals against this year. How many people would of thought that at the start of the year with our eight “nhl-calibre” defenseman and defensive-minded coach? Not me. I and presumably many others were much more worried about the Leafs putting the puck in the net this year and gearing up for a lot of low scoring games.

Going by the numbers so far this season, it’s patently clear that our defense and goaltending are an area in dire need of bolstering. I’m aware this draft is very forward-heavy with only 2 dmen likely to go in the top 10 come June. I’m not saying the Leafs should beyond any shadow of a doubt draft a defenseman, I’m just saying that its an option that should be considered a bit more closely than it is currently, especially if you have a shot at a guy like Hedman. And Cowen is no slouch either. We have Pogge sitting in the wings waiting to take over between the pipes so hopefully that will be able to solve the goaltending problems. People will also say that we don’t need a defensive cornerstone as as we have Schenn.  Schenn’s a great building block, but by no means the whole wall.

Burke says he likes to build from the net out so if he’s happy with Pogge then the next logical step will be further bolstering a suspect defense core. With up to 3 dmen rumoured as possible trade candidates, it might make sense for the Leafs to look towards Hedman or Cowen. We saw it with the Ducks: Burke likes to have two stud Dman who play a whole lot of time, usually by placing them on separate pairings. Although, let’s be honest… who doesn’t want that, right?

Your thoughts?

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  • Darkjester

    I’m sure there was a bunch of typos in this one :D

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  • http://www.colthorn.com Coltho (Rob)

    I think they should draft the best player available when their turn comes. They need help at all positions

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  • http://admin Alex Tran

    “MLHS reserves the right to withhold anything shitty”

    LMAO.

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  • Rober

    Currently we’ve got 8.1% chance of winning the lottery (sportnet connect this morning), so I don’t think it would be out there to think TO would have a least 2 more 1st. We moved up to get Luke, I think we could still get his brother or Kane as a power forward to start the offensive blocks…..but I think what TO needs a true certified QB on the pp, enter Ryan Ellis, young and very creative on the blue line…..Ellis and Stralman could be a power to be reckoned with. So if the stars line up right, we could still get another D-Dman, a power center
    , and a O-Dman as well. And hopefully with some prospect ready to come up a training Camp, and possibility of snagging prospect from other teams (Filatov, dreaming), we’d cut the building in half and start strenghting the layers. And another thing, we should be looking at Finlands goalie they had at he WJC….Janus something……so Dominic Hetchek (never liked the guy, but great moves), would make Pogge focus more and have a good goalie tamden in a couple years.

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  • goldenleafs

    One way to look at it is, good solid defencemen are hard to come by, good forwards come and go all the time via trades and UFA’s.

    On the other hand, building around an elite forward would be sweet :)

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  • Chance

    I’d love to have Ellis with preferably a second first round pick higher up in the draft. Him quarterbacking both points for Canada at the WJ had me drooling every time.

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  • http://admin Alec Brownscombe
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  • http://admin Alex Tran

    P.S., Cowen just went down with season-ending reconstructive knee surgery.

    Nasty, nasty stuff. Anticipated 5 month rehab.

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  • brokensilence

    any defensemen they draft this year won’t be in the league for a couple years yet anyway. perhaps hedman might be an exception, but it’s unlikely that the leafs will draft high enough to take him. i think their best bet is to draft a forward (antropov was the last forward they drafted in the top-10), and hopefully get another first-rounder which can be used on a defenseman.

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  • Roacho

    Enough with the BS. I think Burke has two simple options when dealing with Toskala. Let’s establish that the Leafs are going nowhere.
    Down to the options.
    #1 Toskala is hurt, shut him down for the season, trade him in the offseason, or during the next season
    #2 Due to poor play send him to the Marlies to find his game. We all know we need to see what Pogge can do especially at home in a close game and it wouldn’t hurt to respect Cujo and give him a couple starts in the remaining 30 odd games.
    #3 Option 3 is to trade Toskala, but we all know with his current play, that’s a pipe dream.
    As a side note, if the Leafs get a late 1st rounder via trade, maybe drafting G Olivier Roy would be a solid move?

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  • http://www.mckeenshockey.rivals.com Gus Katsaros

    @Rober – Ellis is the man! He could go very high, higher than anticipated too …

    Alec, if the fact is that Toskala is not focused or not willing to play into this could actually be a plus. This is exactly what I meant by GM’s not focusing on stats.

    Burke: Yes, he’s available.
    Holland: Yeah, but he stinks and isn’t putting in the effort. What did they give LA for LaBarbera?
    Burke: But he’s purposely not working on the issues we would like him to because he isn’t in our plans. On a contender (with only one more year on the books), he’s the goalie from last season.
    Holland: Fine .. fine, stop @$%@ing badgering me. Here’s a 1st, and (pfft, tee hee) Osgoode, and heck since you’re so honest, have Datsyuk too… ;)

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  • glgbill

    BPA…

    …and sign Gilroy!

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  • CarltontheBear

    With our 1st rounder the only way I can see Burke drafting a dman is if we end up with the 2nd pick and whoever is first picks Tavares. If we end up with the first pick I don’t think Burke will pass up the home boy phenom that will be the cornerstone of our forwards for the next decade at least. If we draft outside the top two the only dman within that area is Cowen and I can’t see Burke picking Cowen over the likes of Duchene or Kane. Just my opinion.

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  • betterforsome

    I think that in a draft with so many talented highly-ranked forwards we would do best to take one. While it’s true this team’s offence is underrated, many of the contributors to that offence probably won’t be here after the trade deadline (or next season’s trade deadline). I am concerned with the Leaf’s poor defensive play, but we do have three solid defencemen in Schenn, Finger and Van Ryn (or two-and-a-half, really, since Van Ryn is always hurt). I’m all for taking D-men after the first round – the last time the Leafs picked a defenseman in the first two rounds was second-round pick Doherty (bust) and we have all of one quality defensive prospect in the system with Stralman, who isn’t much of an own-zone player. However this team is hurting all over, and we don’t have any blue-chip forwards either, unless you count the tarnished Tlusty or surprising longshots like Didomenico. With such a glut of first-line forwards avaliable, we’d be fools not to grab one and run.
    Also, I’m not a big fan of selecting Ellis with our first pick, not just for the reasons above, but because he’s mainly an offensive-defenseman. Picking him wouldn’t help our back end any.

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  • http://www.hfboards.com Patrick

    If the Leafs are sitting in the 2nd spot in the draft, easily they select Hedman, it’s a no brainer. After that, especially with the injury to Cowan, it’s somewhat of a crap shoot.

    I myself am a huge fan of the Schenn name. Luke, in his first season with Toronto, has shown the leadership that will likely make him Captain of the Leafs within the near future. Brayden Schenn, his younger brother, has shown similar traits with his junior club, Brandon Wheat Kings, and sits favourably ranked right around where the Leafs are expected to pick. I would be very surprised if the Leafs pass on the young Western Hockey League forward, and last years rookie of the year.

    This is a deep draft, and with the many draft picks Brian Burke should be able to acquire on deadline day, I’m positive he’s going to find a sleeper, or three. Hopefully in that group, he’s capable of picking some more defensive help.

    And Matt Gilroy to the Leafs, I’d bank on that one happening.

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  • http://www.goosepuck.blogspot.com Goose Puck Leafs Rumour Speculation & Reporting

    12th in scoring? I wonder about scoring in the third period, or the last 5 minutes of the game. Or on the powerplay.

    Or whether the players that score have good two-way games and plus minuses.

    Or maybe, consistency is something worth looking at.

    Or, or, or. Our top scorers are NOT top league players.

    Point being: the further you zoom out in statistics, the less they apply.

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  • daniel marois

    I know everyone is playing their favorites here so I’ll throw mine. I think Burke will find another first round pick. The challenge of course is to acquire one that will land them drafting between the 10-15 spots and not the likely 22-30, although that would not be so bad. Although I too would love to see a pairing of Cowen and Schenn, it is apparent the Leafs do not have a offensive game-breaker.

    With the way the season is unfolding, I think at best the Leafs will be drafting number three overall, and that is a good thing. Once Tavares and Hedman are gone, that’s when it gets interesting. Who do you pick? I vote for Brampton’s Matt Duchene. He is the clone of Cody Hodgson and I can tell you if the teams drafting before Vancouver in the ’08 Draft last year could do it all over again, Hodgson would have been taken much higher than the #10 spot.

    Watching the game against Buffalo, you can argue the Sabres d-men core is not the best in the league but they certainly have offensive players to make up for it, not to mention the best line of defence with netminder Ryan Miller.

    I think Duchene is a fantastic piece to build around and it appears the Cowen injury could prove to be a blessing for Toronto.

    I am positive due to Cowen’s season-ending injury, most teams drafting in the top-10 will not take a chance on him. History in the draft has shown that injuries scare teams into letting a player slide even further down the board.

    If Burke does pick up another ’09 first round pick, at best it will be in the #15-20 slot. Hopefully Cowen will still be available at 15 or 16.

    You can tip your hat to LA and their young defence core if you want, but look at all the offensive players they chosen in the past few drafts. Most of them were taken in the first round and are a big reason why LA is still in the playoff hunt.

    If Toronto is drafting with the #1 or #2 pick overall, it is obvious who they will take. But if they are lucky enough to be at #3, please take Matt Duchene. In no way will any Leaf fan be disappointed.

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  • Surreal McCoy

    if the Leafs could somehow walk away from the draft with Schenn, Ellis, O’Reilly and Roy i’d be dancing in the streets.

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  • Roger Boucher
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  • Roger Boucher

    and Ellis plays with Dale Mitchell on the Spitfires right now and in a couple years, they may build a good chemistry to be an offensive duo.

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  • Blair

    I think last year was the class to grab a defenceman from and the Leafs did exactly that. This year is the time to grab a forward and no matter where the Leafs fall in that top ten they’ll walk away with a good one.
    I’m not sure what plagues Toronto’s D but I think once they purge Kaberle and Kubina they’ll be better. I think it’s been hard for those two to adjust to the new style of defence that Wilson uses (zone) rather than Maurice’s man to man. Not to mention this baloney about two hands on the stick. And it doesn’t help when you have no confidence in your goalie because you try to do too much at both ends of the rink.

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  • Mish

    To Phoneix:
    Karbele
    Stajan
    4th round pick

    To Toronto:
    1st round pick, 2nd round pick,
    Carcillo

    -Phoenix will finish in the top 10 presumably

    The leafs hopefully will garner anohter first rounder with antropov and possibly one with Kubina (more likely 2nd rounder)

    -Leafs will probably draft 3rd-5th….if they can pull of a blockbuster with the Islanders
    by trading their 3rd overall, and phoenix’s top 10, we could draft Tavares

    still have one more 1st rounder more likely 7-15
    we could easily walk away with ellis or cowen if he drops, Simon Despres is an absolute beast

    Ideal Leafs Draft
    -Tavares
    -Cowen or Ellis

    Most Likely Leafs Draft
    -Shenn
    -Cowen

    My Dream Draft
    -Tavares
    -Ellis
    -Schroeder
    -Shenn

    I can dream ok!

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