Breaking Rumor! Pens and Leafs?

by on February 26, 2009 in Uncategorized - 459 Comments

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Turns out, there’s speculation that the trade between Anaheim and Pittsburgh was an inadvertent 3 way trade with the Maple Leafs. That’s right, that big Ryan Whitney trade was for the bigger picture.

The rumor has Tomas Kaberle and a forward, believed to be Matt Stajan, going to the Penguins in exchange for Jordan Staal and Eric Tangradi. The move also gives the Ducks the opportunity to move out one of Pronger or Niedermayer, while it is believed the Niedermayer brothers could be on their way to New Jersey, surprise surprise.

Why this trade makes sense:

The Leafs would finally get their number one centerman with Mitchell and Grabovski filling in the 2nd and 3rd line roles, and land a great prospect who, you guessed it, was drafted by Burke himself in 2007. Tangradi has grown into what is considered the ideal power forward… wait a minute, this sounds familiar, wasn’t Burke trying to swing a deal with Boston to bring in Blake Wheeler, another power forward? Yes, that’s right; Burke is going about the right way in getting the type of player he wants.

It’s believed the Penguins wanted to get a deal done with Toronto, but as Burke demanded a top prospect, something the Penguins are short on after their trade last year for Hossa, they had to ship out Whitney to get it.

The breakdown, if the trade happens, would look like this:

Pittsburgh Adds: Kaberle, Stajan, Kunitz
Pittsburgh Drops: Whitney, Staal
Toronto Adds: Staal, Tangradi
Toronto Drops: Kaberle, Stajan

No word as of yet if a pick is also involved, but I for one would find this speculated deal to be rather interesting for both sides, and would definitely be a Brian Burke type trade. The Leafs would receive a gifted centerman locked up for similar dollar figures as Kaberle, and get a young up and coming prospect who could be their number 1 or 2 winger for years to come.

What are your thoughts on all the speculation? One thing is for sure, this, my friends, is the most wonderful time of the year. The Hockey holiday – 6 Days Away.

Micheal A. Aldred
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  • MeloD

    For everyone who thinks a first would be needed for this trade to be fair is nuts in my opinion. I’d agree that Burke wouldn’t make this deal without a high pick, but come on. Pittsburgh trading away Staal, a top prospect and a #1 pick is not going to happen. Why wouldn’t they have stuck with Whitney, who has slowly improved since his injury if they wanted an offensive-d? That team is soft and replacing Whitney with Kaberle in my opinion doesn’t help. That being said, I hope I eat my words and that this deal actually happens.

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  • Pens Fan

    You are all idiots if you believe this would happen.

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  • PensFan

    Shero would b an idiot to make this deal. The biggest need the Pens have right now is a power forward that can play with Sid. Tangredi could be that guy. We will never win the Cup until we find some one that can play with him. It would be nice to have Kaberle on the blue line, but I am okay with the group we have now. Plus there are going to be some good free agents out there at the end of the season we could go after.

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  • Jason

    Here’s a thought. Make the trade straight-up. We’d LIKE to take Pittsburgh’s first-round pick, but if they won’t give it to us, make the trade anyway. Much as I like Kabby and Stajan, Staal has the potential to be our number 1 centre for a while. I don’t know much about Tangradi, he seems to be a solid prospect from what I’ve been reading.
    Downside – we lose Kaberle – essentially an offensively talented puck-moving defenseman. Funny enough, there’s another one of those who’s going to be a UFA this offseason who is, interestingly, more to Burke’s model than Kabby anyway (Bouwmeester). Florida isn’t going to re-sign him, and Toronto has the cap space to give him a solid offer. He’s also 5 years younger than Kabby.

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  • http://pensunderground.com Evilpens

    CarltontheBear February 27, 2009 9:09 am

    Lee February 27, 2009 8:56 am

    AWWW what’s wrong didn’t Mommy breastfeed you this morning???

    If you KNEW ANYTHING about hockey you would realize the reason they traded Whitney is they Have a SURPLUS off Offensive D Men & needed scoring

    ****** Maple Laffs INBREDS

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  • Blair

    Did someone say the Pens, the team with the top two NHL leading scorers, needed scoring? If that were the case they would have traded Malkin for Kovalchuk + and used that + to help add other prospects that can score. Then Staal moves up to second line center and is no longer being wasted. HOWEVER, anyone who has actually watched the Pens play would know they turn the puck over in the neutral zone FAR too often. How many times do you see Sid or Malkin circle all the way back behind their own net and pick up the puck to lug it up the ice on their own due to their frustration with their D. It is one thing to have enough offensive d-men, but it’s another to have a d-man that can actually carry/pass the puck. Enter Kaberle.

    I think most Pens fans are only annoyed at the suggestion that they need Kaberle because it is being suggested Staal would go the other way. Consider the issues separately.

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  • CarltontheBear

    Ouch, my hockey knowledge is being questioned by a Pens fan. Well I hope your satisfied with the likes of Letang and Goligoski carrying your team nowhere this season.

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  • Conn Smythe

    I’d be whiny too if I was a Pens fan and my team was so, so $hitty.

    That said, please, I hope Burke is not thinking of bringing Pronger here – what’s the point?

    As for the proposed Kaberle and Stajan trade, I’m not sold on Staal – if the desperate Pens throw in a 1st rounder, I’d consider it if I was Burke.

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  • Geno

    this is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard, there’s no way that the Penguins would trade Staal and a top prospect for Stajan and Kaberle

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  • CarltontheBear

    To Pittsburgh

    D Tomas Kaberle
    D Pavel Kubina
    C Nik Antropov
    Toronto’s 1st round pick 2009+2010
    *Somehow give some of our cap space so you can exceed the cap using our space.

    To Toronto

    The rights to hold contract talks with Therien

    There, that seems about fair value.

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  • Ken

    what a retarded trade that would be. The pens don’t need another defenseman, the ones that should give up a 1st rnd pick should be Toronto, or throw in Antropov so the trade would look like this
    Toronto Gets Staal and Tangradi and the Pens 2nd rnd pick
    Pens get Kaberle with the list of teams he’d go to, Antropov, Stajen and Torontos 1st rnd pick
    thats about the only way this trade should be made. The pens would need the list of teams that Kaberle would go to so they could trade him somewhere else, they just cleared a log jam on the blueline. To me this is just wishful thinking for the leafs anyways.

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  • CarltontheBear

    Yea, the Leafs are going to trade Kaberle, Antropov, Stajan and what is most likely a lottery pick for 2 unproven players and a 2nd. Could you overvalue your assets a little more?

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  • Ken

    I was thinking the same when I was reading that the pens needed to throw in their first rnd pick along with Staal and Tangredi for a done nothing defenseman, a never heard of him outside of Toronto …. if it was to happen and it was just those 4, then Toronto needs to be the one throwing in the pick

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  • tannn

    Ken, what is wrong with you. A done nothing defencemen? How about be in the top 5 for points by a defencemen each year? I think that counts for something, and Matt Stajan is a solid 2-3 line winger. He can be counted on for 50-60 pts a year. ALso, if the trade was to go down, the penguins should throw in a 2nd rd pick, which upgrades to a first if they make the playoffs this year

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  • CarltontheBear

    You’re right, one of the top point producing defensemen since the lockout is a “done nothing defenseman” He is third all time for points by a Leafs defenseman rapidly closing in on 2nd, yet I guess he hasn’t proven anything right? However on the other side we have a player who has yet to crack the NHL, a player who has yet to crack 50 points, but I guess they’ve proven to be so valuable to the Pens that we must give up Kaberle, Antropov, Stajan and a lottery pick for them. Give your head a shake, Proven commodities go for more than unproven commodities, and right now both Staal and Tangredi are unproven. Not to mention our draft pick has a high chance of netting us a player who is better than both Staal and Tangredi.

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  • Jack Meoff

    What do you morons do, sit around and pull names out of a hat. If Shero made this trade he would be fired on the spot. Leaf fans, get it through your heads, just because someone plays for the leafs doesn’t make him a superstar. There is a reason that the Leafs have sucked so bad for the past 4-5 years…your players aren’t that great. Stop thinking that every GM is climbing over each other to get ahold of your players, its just not the case.

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  • CJ

    No way this happens. They wouldnt trade for another centre. I can see them moving Staal, but no way should they trade Staal and Tangrady. No way.

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  • Scotty

    Wow, you could trade Kaberle and Stajan. Kaberle is a great Dman no fighting that. But Stajan is not a # 1 or a #2 forward. You get ride of him and send him to a team like the Penguins and he is dropped to the 3rd or 4th line where he can score his 10 goals a year again. It is true he is getting a lot of playing time with the Leafs and he really does not deserve it. There are a lot more players that could fill that rol and do the same or better. he is in his 6th year ? And finally given all this playing time with power play time he is producing. But the Leafs could do better without him.

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  • Null

    this trade is not ever gonna happen..it was more like blake, kaberle and stajan for stall crosby and malkin…………..get ur facts straight liar

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  • #1 Nikra

    way to much for the penguins to give up… I dont know what the deal is with leaf fans and thomas kaberles value but if you want a first round draft pick we get antropov and kaberle at least. Ray Shero wont make this trade without Antropov

    To pens: Kaberle, antropov
    to leafs: staal, tangradi, 1st rounder

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  • blackNgold

    I wouldn’t trade a bag of pucks for kaberle.

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  • http://pensunderground.com Evilpens

    Hey How did that Trade work out PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT

    Losers HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!

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