Chicago 7, Vancouver 5. Goodbye Mats Sundin.

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Mats Sundin’s season with the Vancouver Canucks, his chase for the 2009 Stanley Cup that brought him out of pseudo-retirement, and possibly his NHL career, ended tonight with the Canucks’ elimination from the playoffs at the hands of the young Chicago Blackhawks.

And now the “future of Sundin” questions, and subsequent “will-he-or-won’t-he” Favrian (or is it Favresque?) soap opera will surely begin anew.

Sundin, after all, is a free agent this off-season.   Despite Vancouver’s offer of $20 million for 2 years still standing at the time he signed, Sundin instead took a 1 year, $5 million deal for the balance of this season.  Which means, of course, that he is unrestricted and free to do as he wishes.

It could be that he retires from the game, as his close friend Markus Naslund recently did.

It could be that he hems and haws for half a season again, as Teemu Selanne and Scott Neidermayer have also done.

It could be that he signs elsewhere for another shot at a Cup.   Sure would fit in well with Detroit, and that Eastern schedule would be more favorable (the reason he put off signing with Vancouver for as long as he did was to allow for most of the heavy travel to the East to be gone from the schedule).

Or, it could be that he signs on for a farewell tour with the Toronto Maple Leafs, as so many other former Leafs’ stars have done in the past.

I must ask:  what do you think about that possibility, Leaf Nation?

Before you reply, consider the following:

1.  The Maple Leafs roster is currently devoid of leadership, and veteran experience, especially up front.  They do not have a #1 centre, and there are no guarantees they can land one in free agency.  So you could argue a return to the blue and white (albeit somewhat weakly) on the basis of need.

2. Brian Burke won’t blow the cap in free agency – he has been very clear about his concerns regarding an expected cap decrease in 2010 – and Mats Sundin would come relatively cheap ($4 – $5 million) on a 1 year deal.   So you could argue a return to the blue and white (somewhat more strongly) on a fiscal-responsibility basis.

3. The ownership of the Maple Leafs has a history of bringing back its former stars for farewell tours.   Wendel Clark comes to mind.   As does Doug Gilmour’s abbreviated return to the blue and white.  And remember how hard they tried to re-acquire Gary Roberts?   It is not a reach, by any stretch, to suggest that ownership may exert some pressure to bring back Sundin for a final go-around, given their history on the matter.   Of course, whether or not Burke would do it is anyone’s guess.  Then again, Pat Quinn – who is a similar personality to Burke – brought back Gilmour and Clark.   So you could argue a return to the blue and white (very strongly) on the basis of the team’s history in regard to its former stars.

It should be mentioned that Leafs’ GM Brian Burke was heavily rumoured to be interested in acquiring Mats Sundin two trade deadlines ago when he was the GM of Anaheim.  Just sayin’.

Now, I’m not suggesting for a moment that I think bringing back Sundin would be a good idea, or the best approach for this team moving forward.   Personally, I feel the best way for a team to move forward is to keep looking ahead as opposed to behind.   Further, they will likely struggle to make the playoffs next year, so would it make sense for Sundin to come back just so he can retire as a member of the Leafs, even if they have next to no shot at the Stanley Cup?

It’s a question that is actually much more difficult to answer than it first appears.  Many fans (myself included) feel it’s time for Sundin to either retire or pursue a contract with a Cup-contending team, but it is quite possible that his long-standing desire to retire in a Leafs sweater could lead him to seek out one final contract with the Maple Leafs.

In short, I have serious doubts that he will actually wind up back in Toronto – my guess is he retires and moves in next door to Naslund – but at this point I wouldn’t be willing to put anything past Burke & Co., either.

However, my own views aside, I am bringing this topic up because now that Vancouver is out, and Sundin is a free agent, these questions will undoubtably be asked all summer long.   And surely, certain members of the media will complain about the soap opera beginning again, but the truth is they all love it.   It’s a deep long-running saga, with strong emotions tied to it on all sides, and (frankly) it will give them something to write about for the ever-passionate and insatiable Maple Leafs fan base.

So I’ll jump the gun and ask:  what do you think about all this?   Will Mats Sundin retire?  Will he sign elsewhere?  Will he go fly fishing for another half-season before doing so?   And if he does return to the NHL … will he return to Toronto?

Have fun with this one, folks … I’m looking forward to what you have to say.   You had to figure the big Swede would be a topic here again, sooner or later.

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  • Jordan

    I would agree to almost everything other then Schenn. If we give him up its a huge step backwards. I dont thing thats the case because Tampa is not that stupid to ask. Kaberle, our 7th, and a prospect…..then take salary back with the 2nd overall pick is all I would do. If we dont get JT I dont see a point anyways because Hedmen would be great but it makes more sence to keep the 7th a draft Cowen (could be just as good) and keep our assests and prospects.

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  • Jordan

    And GOD GUYS, STOP SAYING TRADE KUBINA TO TEAMS WHO HAVE NO MONEY….there is no chance in hell Tampa take Kublina back at 5 mil. They have a “self imposed cap” by the owners at about 45 mil. Thats why its so important to get rid of money to keep Vinny. I would guess Malone, Prospal and another contract could be moving out this summer to keep him. Obviously Lawton is going to somewhat play hardball here, and not just roll over and die. Imagine how bad to the fans and everyone in Tampa Bay it would look if Burke was aloud to just walk in, and basically knock Lawtons school books on the floor, wedgie him, and shuv him in a locker while walking away with the 2nd overall pick, leaving him whateven Burke feels is “worth giving up”….a deal will probably get done but it will take time

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  • Mizuno

    Dude, if Tampa was holding the 1st Spot, then Burke MAY BE MORE CONVINCED to include Schenn in the deal. Then we know for sure, we’ll get Tavares. But yo man, i really think NYI will take Tavares. But in any case, drafting in the 2nd spot, we can draft Duchene whom everybody thought was more dimensional than Tavares.

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  • LSC4the leafs

    @ Jordan. You are exactly right. Tampa cannot come out of the draft a mugging victim. From a PR perspective, Tampa has to look like they are playing hard ball, but behind closed doors things may be different. I have faith in BB, but at the end of the day its a “dog-eat-dog” world.

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  • Karm

    Isn’t Schenn already greater than the 2nd overall pick???
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    He’s already proved he can play at the NHL level and is poised to be top 2 defender who opponents fear. I’d say he can be even better than Stevens. Players yet to be drafted might become busts, Luke has already proven otherwise for the most part
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    So 2nd overall for Schenn straight up, then draft Duchane/Tavares

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  • Goal Post

    I admired Sundin’s play for 13 years with the Leafs and I believe that aside from the Gilmour trade this was Fletcher’s best trade ever. He gave up diminishing assets for an asset that would lead the Leafs for 13 yrs. I am sure Fletcher did not expect that longevity. I did not see the same Mats Sundin with Vancouver there was something missing in his level of play. He still looks strong but he didn’t look like his heart was in it. $5 million for for 41 games and 9 goals does not make sense in the modern cap era. Hopefully Mats will retire and make the announcement soon so we can all have a peaceful summer discussing the potential of Tavares or Hedman in a Leaf uniform.

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  • Blair

    I would sign Mats if he lets us trade him at the deadline. Right the wrong.

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  • http://www.tmlfans.ca Schenn

    So Kaberle at about $4.25 million is alot better for Tampa Bay than Kubina at $5 million?

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  • Odd Man Rush

    Trade Schenn straight up for the #2 pick and keep our 7th would be a good deal for the Leafs.I am sure BB would consider that . We could take Hedman or Duchane +Cowan that would be amazing for the future….come on BB lets get it done….

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  • Jordan

    They want a puck moving defence, Kubina is no one but Kaberle is one of the best

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  • Largus

    Odd Man Rush, horrible deal, and yet again another step sideways. Defense wins championships, not draft picks that haven’t even played yet. Why the hell are all the Leaf fans having such an orgasm over guys that haven’t even played in the NHL yet? No I don’t want to trade Schenn, Tlusty, Kulemin or Grabovsky for any draft picks, thats just dumb, and BB is not going to do that.

    As for Sundin, he can rot in hell for all I care, brings zero to the table and is a horrible step backwards into the abyss once again for way to much money.

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  • Odd Man Rush

    I would trade Schenn for Hedman anytime i think Hedman will be a better all around defenseman .Schenn as a very poor shot and will never be a 2 way D. Hedman looks like a Pronger type D going to be a force in the NHL…

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  • Dan

    @ Odd Man Rush
    That is an example of giving up on a prospect in mid-development.
    You can’t say Schenn won’t have a better shot and be an effective two-way d-man after one pro season. It’s just ignorant.
    Let him work on his offensive game over the next 3-4 seasons while continuing to dominate the defensive game. Then we will see how complete of a player he is. It is completely unfair to the kid to suggest otherwise.

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  • Gerard

    Hedman could turn out to be a bust, for all anyone knows. Or, he could be an all-star for years. And that’s just it. You can’t know until they play. So why give up a young player, who you know can play in the league, and whose NHL potential you’ve already glimpsed (it’s good) for someone whose NHL potential is completely unknown?

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  • leafs4life

    @hockey_guru- i completely agree wtih you. sundin for all his skill and what he gave for charity to the city was missing one key ingredient which you would find in players like clark, gilmour and roberts. he was missing HEART! sundin didnt want to win the cup and nor does he care about winning the cup. he plays his ass off for his home country but nowhere to be seen on the ice for the leafs when they need him most. then suddenly, there he is taking a selfish penalty. then cursing the referee for calling it. then remarkably, he disappears again. he has had people to play with. the really good players can escalate their game regardless and make other players around him even better. sundin never did this. he is selfish. period! dont blame it on the media, the fans, the front office. this is a selfish human being who deserves to be told about it. i am also very sure he had everything to do with those guys not waiving their ntc at the deadline. he was supposed to be their leader. they were following his lead.

    as for coming back. that would be a farce. it would be totally against what the leafs truly need. trust in the young guys. move forward. never backwards. it makes more sense to bring wendel clark back for leadership than to bring in sundin to teach the young guys how to float, take selfish penaltys and otherwise be invisible. his best days are behind him. let him ride into the sunset and everyone will remember the earlier days when he actually could still play.

    dont get me wrong. i did like sundin but honestly he wasnt playing hockey in the NHL to win the cup. he was playing for the money. nothing else to gain. he wanted his summer off. he was getting married. better to stay where he was and keep things the way he wanted them to be. i respected his skill and him as a person until he did this. that was disappionting. he can blame whomever he wants but ultimately it was mats that said he didnt want to win the cup unless he started with the team in september. he doesnt believe in rent-a-players. then he said he didnt agree to be traded because he believed they could win the cup. then he joined vancouver over halfway through the season. ridiculous.

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  • leafs4life

    *sorry i meant he didnt want to be traded because he believed they could make the playoffs.

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  • DAAAaaLeafs

    The Sundin era is over, gone move on for godsakes. While were at it what about bringing back the ghost of Bruce Gamble…puhlease..

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  • Blue Max

    Sundin? Who cares? Bye, bye liar!

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