Pre-Draft Rumours Heating Up

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Burke may have been playing possum in order to move up to get Duchene when he was saying he wanted Tavares but no one is indulging him….

Rumor is that there will be no movement in the top 3 as the Islanders and Avalanche want Duchene but  the Avs will settle for Tavares.  Duchene, Hedman, Tavares in that order apparently.  However, Burke is BEGGING the Thrashers to make a move here and is offering Kubina and the 7th for the #4 and a roster player which would be more of a salary move for Atl.  He wants to hold onto Kabs as ammo for another larger move. Rumblings are that it may be Kessel…. as rumoured, the Bruins were hot for Kabs at the deadline. The Kings are also a possible trading partner as Burke would be more than happy with Kane if thrashers took Schenn-remember I told you Burke loves some of L.A.s prospects-especially Teubert/Simmonds.  If Kings lose Johnson it makes perfect sense that Kabs would be moved there… they cannot afford another season out of the playoffs.  Burke is interested in Jaybo, is definitely not interested in the Sedins at their asking price nor Camallieri for that matter.  Burke doesn’t want to set the trend here in terms of market value for free agents this year as he believes that many teams will be hesitant to overspend due to cap projections for a year from now.  He may lie in the weeds to see how the spending shakes out before he gets into the UFA market.  Burke is going large and it remains to be seen whether he can find a dance partner.”

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  • Titans.91

    I wouldn’t trade kabs at all..he is our star defenseman with one of the best contracts in the nhl for his caliper, and after that contract runs out he won’t ask for much more then what he is making now due to the performance that he has put on over the last few years. But that doesnt make him a bad defenseman, he didn’t have anyone to play with in the last few years. As for Kubina he had somewhat of a good season last year which means his value might be up a but but probably not with the huge contract that he doesnt deserve, I would get rid of him easily for coboure + boston’s 1st. If we don’t get kessel then i guess we leave him, my theory is you build from the blueline out which means you leave kabs alone if thats what it takes to land kessel. If we could get him with something esle such as grabovsky/jimmy hayes and a high pick next year providing kessel signs with us. I wouldn’y wait until kessel is available for offer sheets because players intend to get more then what they are worth, and i think kessel is worth about 3.5mil to a 3 year contract becuase he is unproven one year players isnt for me. i have to see them do it on a everyday basis, after the 3 years are up and he is still putting up good numbers then you sign him a long term deal. as for JBo i would defiently be trying to land him. leave cammalleri alone as for the sedins i wouldnt touch them now i know what they are expecting next the next 12 years. diamond in the rough players would be like Brian gionta and maxim afinogenov they ahvent had very good years the past 2-3 seasons but have lots of potiental. gionta scored 40+ goals with NJ in the defensive style of play just imagine what he could go on a team like pittsburgh or washington as afinogenov. there are many opions for burke. Im sure he will do fine to me he is the best GM in the game today, next would be ken holland but thats only becuase of his scouts that he is good. you never see the guy trade. he builds within his organization and thats it. signs free agents and re-signs contracts. how hard wouyld that be..really??

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  • B Leaf

    @mm
    If you read my comments I say that I am not a fan of Briere. However if the Flyers are desperate to move him than maybe there is a deal somewhere to be had. The 21st pick in this draft should be good. Another first next year wouldn’t hurt either. We have cap space and money and we need more top level prospects. I respectfully appreciate your thoughts.

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  • paso

    great work alec…to bauman who keeps preaching tavares’ drawing power…how many seats did Stamkos sell in Tampa? Tavares is a huge name in Canada-not in the U.S. What do you think about Blake Griffin? oh, you dont know who he is…he’s the projected first round pick of the clippers in the nba draft. We Canadian hockey fans tend to have a myopic view of how the game is viewed outside of Canada.

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  • bansebe

    http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/article/654239

    This is starting to look really good for us.

    “Gustavsson will make his decision based on his comfort level with the team, its management, stability in ownership and “a gut feel.”

    let’s cross our fingers here.

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  • Garrett Bauman

    Paso:
    You can check the reports coming out of Long Island yourself, if you don’t buy my analysis. Tavares is a huge draw among among a very knowledgable fan base on the East coast. Look up reports on the fan rally they just held last week, if you have questions about Tavares’ draw on Long Island.
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    As for Tampa Bay and Stamkos, it’s all about geography. There is a large fan base on the Eastern seaboard, one that is very knowledgeable about all things hockey. But in Florida? Er, not so much.

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  • Garrett Bauman

    (And yes I do know who Blake Griffin is. It’s a pity he, like so many top picks before him, won’t have any interest in sticking around past his rookie contract to help the team grow into a contender.)

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  • Blue Max

    It’s amazing how we Leaf fans argue over something we got no real control over! We can post all our wishes here, but in the end it’s dependent only on Burke and the other GMs. Burke can only deal based on market dynamics, and the current one is hardly conducive to the past deals he was able to come up with. Which is fine by me, given that the potential advantages/disadvantages of the players available after the top three all about even. I think one more shutdown d-man in Cowen would set us up on defence for years to come, and don’t forget that him, and even Luke Schenn as we saw this past season, have some decent but untapped offencive potential. Lucking out, and signing the monster, and tutoring from a legendary goalie coach in Allaire is going to ensure a rebuild is done properly, from the net out that is.
    Sometimes, to use an old cliche, the best moves you make, are the ones you don’t make.
    This relative instability has affected Kaberle’s play of late, and lets face it, why would he try hard for a team that is peddling his services to other teams almost daily. He’s a world class defenseman, and we’d be hard pressed to replace what he brings to the team. Let us not all forget that he’s still relatively young. I’m with Burke when he says the offer “would have to blow our socks off”, and so far I haven’t seen that. How many of these prospects have proven to be top pairing d-men? None yet!

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  • paso

    agreed the Isles have a tradition that no team in Fla has. the problem with your analysis Bauman is that winning teams sell tix and losing teams (unless they’re in Canada) do not. having 2000 kids sign a petition demanding that tavares be drafted is not indicative of how many people will actually pay to see him-especially if the team stinks. dont misunderstand the point here-tavares is an exceptional talent obviously and his marketability is a factor-I personally don’t see how Snow can pass on the guy given Tavares’ pedigree-especially since Snow hasnt made one decent move since he took over the team-but there is a growing concern as you know that Tavares’ skill set will not translate fully to the NHL level. I am not saying I agree, and if the leafs could somehow get the guy it would be a real coup but personally I would draft someone who would solidify my leadership core ie. Duchene or Schenn. if you have the $ the Leafs have you can always spend $5m to get a 35-40 goal scorer. Its the intangibles that Ducehene/Schenn bring that are invaluable.

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  • Garrett Bauman

    From Chris Botta of NYI Point Blank:
    I Want To Be An Islander: John Tavares
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    What’s most interesting here is that Hedman and Duchene both spent less than a day with the Islanders, while Tavares was there for 2 days and got a guided tour from Doug Weight … hmm … sounds like the favorite to me.

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  • http://admin Alec Brownscombe

    I can’t see NYI passing on, above all, the marketing boon that is Tavares. Just thought I would pass this rumour on… more interested in the Leaf-related scuttlebutt. I’d love to see Burke move up to that 4-spot if he can strike a deal with ATL.

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  • Paynter Graham

    Kubina in a package to Atlanta for #4 would be fine – however I don’t think it should include our #7 pick. We need more that one first round pick to turn this thing around. Surely there must be a way to make this trade and keep our pick. If we have to include our #7 pick it is not worth it! Really how much difference is there between Schenn/Kane and MPS?

    I know I’ve said it before, but I’ll say it again – I really can see Kaberle going to TB for the #2 pick overall. TB NEEDS Kaberle to bring their team back to playoff contention – and save their franchise. So Kaberle (plus a prospect) for Hedman – in reality – would be great. But let’s not overpay – otherwise we keep Kaberle and hopefully deal him for a 1st rounder between #8 – 16.

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  • Garrett Bauman

    Well, the Canadian media sure does like to get creative. The endgame, of course, is to create enough negative buzz about Tavares (skating, leadership, attitude) so that a team may think twice about him, and a trade to get him may be more likely.
    .
    It’s laughable … I mean, as if NHL execs in the US listen to the Canadian media reports. Even Tavares mentioned how ridiculous it is in that interview with Botta. The irony is, the media are calling out Tavares for being entitled while pursuing an obvious agenda … who’s entitled now? It’s all opinion being masked as fact.
    .
    At the end of the day, Burke trading with Atl for the #4 is far more likely to happen than NYI passing on Tavares. Logically, Tavares is the best fit for the Islanders. He wants to play there, the fans want him to play there, and the team desperately needs a “face of the franchise”, not just to build around but for marketability reasons also.
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    The NHL is a business, first and foremost, and from a purely business perspective Tavares makes the most sense for the Islanders to draft.

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  • paso

    alec, this atl tade rumor makes perfect sense imo. atlanta has $ probs…they get kubina for one year and can either resign him at a lower salary as he will not be able to command anywhere near his present salary or let him go. they unload some salary-Hainsey or Armstrong?-on the leafs to clear cap room again for the anticiapted cap decrease and they get a stud-maybe Cowen or MPS-In fact- if Cowen is healthy they will have a decent back line. The Bruins need Kaberle-Burke would happily help them win a cup for long-term gain. Great work Alec, you’re the guy we need to hear more from on this website.

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  • http://admin Alex Tran

    Gustavsson to make decision by June 29th:

    http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/ccustance.tsn/193906

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  • willi

    goodnews on gustavsson, burkes done all he can now let luck be with us!

    Kaberle and ponkifrosky (consist 20 goal scorer ) + 3rd rounder or jeremy williams

    to L.A.

    5th pick over, Tueburt, some roster player, and an additional pick

    or

    Kubina, Stajan and Jeremy williams

    To atlanta

    4th overall and salary dump

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  • bansebe

    I’m getting really annoyed. Is it Gustavsson or Gustafsson? It’s different everywhere.

    I just want to know which one to put on my jersey.

    (kidding)

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  • bansebe

    @ willi
    ponkifrosky? really? I hope that’s a pet name you have for him

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  • Wags

    Rumor out of Calgary says Dion to Ottawa for Heatly, then Ottawa to sign Hossa….Sounds like Cammarlari won’t be signed.

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  • wayne scarlett

    Danny….it is nice to be able to dream,and I am hoping for some moves too.But your trade of Toskala to LA doesn’t work.The Kings have goaltending throughout their system.What they need is Dmen.

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  • wayne scarlett

    Peter Bruins…the draft in 2010 is not considered weak.Not as strong as next Fri/Sat,but not weak.There are some intrigueing players available.However,2011 is extremely weak,at this time,with not a single “standout” on the radar.

    For the 2010 draft,other than the #1..Taylor Hall,there are several players.

    The most thought nof at the moment,other than Taylor Hall,are..

    Eric Gudbranson Kingston 6’3″ Listed at #6 in the Draft Preview
    John McFarland Sudbury 6′ Listed at #8. This kid I saw at the Macs Tourney in Calgary in 2006.
    Lights out quick,very difficult to knock off the puck.

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  • wayne scarlett

    People,please! All of us(yes,me too) can float anything we want out there,hoping and praying that at least some of it comes to pass.But these same posts all have the same thoughts contained in them.The Leafs need to get younger,bigger,stronger and quicker.Including Jimmy Hayes in any deal,is stupidity.This kid is already something special,and he is going to be special even further at the NHL level after going to an elite school for 4 years.I would hate to see him moved before he has a chance to be that special player in a Leafs uniform.

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  • CarltontheBear

    @wayne

    From what I’ve heard, McFarland’s got a real attitude problem.

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  • peter bruins

    Id also love it if Teubert could be part of a Burke trade. He is a Cowen type of really tough hardnosed D. Just give me Schenn, Glennie and Kassian somehow and I am happy. But since that isnt going to happen Id love to see us take Doherty from Kingston in this draft. 6’8″ D, already nasty, played well on a really crappy team, coached by Dougie. Is going to fill out to be a very very nasty stay at home D and we can get him with a 2nd or 3rd round pick.

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  • Leafswest

    So we evolved from “I going after the number one pick” to “he’s lying in the weeds.” Which GM will deal with this guy.

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