You Be The GM

by on July 3, 2009 in Uncategorized - 271 Comments

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Trade rumours are flying rampant around Leafs Nation, some centered around specific Leafs’ players, some centered around specific players on other teams, and some centered around the idea of salary dumps.

Rather than speculating the rumour mill this morning, let’s take a little break from that and have some fun with this instead.   Let’s play “GM For A Day”.

RULES OF THE GAME

Imagine you are GM for a day.    Several teams have either:

(a) inquired about the availability of a specific player or players; or
(b) inquired about what it would take for you to take on a bad contract

No formal offers have been made, but “feelers” have been sent out.

The teams in question are those that have been appearing in most of the rumours circulating throughout Leafs Nation:  Anaheim, Boston, Chicago, Los Angeles, Minnesota, Tampa Bay, San Jose, Vancouver.

You can make one trade, but for the trade to go through it will need to make sense for all sides.   Not only do you need to name your trade, you also need to justify why it makes sense for everyone involved.

You up for it, Leafs Nation?    What would YOU offer, and WHY would the other team(s) be interested?

Let’s see what you’ve got!

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  • leafsforlife

    Kessel would fit in well with LA now dont ya think?

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  • Jordan

    OMG Im sick of you guys not wanting Kessel. Hes a top scorer in the league. Why on earth would you rather have Brayden Schenn? If we EVER have a player like Kessel we will be luck, and Burke should jump on that in a second while the offer is still there. 21 year old who scored 36 goals, and on pace for 40. Thats sick. How else are we suppose to have a top line when you want to trade the ONLY guy we could have away? Just so you know, everyone (including me) are stoked to see Tlusty this year because of his numbers last year in the AHL. Well Kessel was in the same draft as Tlusty and he has a 36 goal season already. Some leaf fan who do not have as much knowledge have to stop undervaluing pther players. You all want Jordan Staal for Kaberle, but not Kessel? Kessel has more upside the Staal does

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  • Largus

    According to Dregers Twiter –>Ryan Smyth to Los Angeles for D Kyle Quincey, D Tom Priessing and a 5th round pick.

    They need Kaberle now :-) Come on Brayden Schenn!!

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  • Josh

    they dont need kaberle now. they have a bunch of defencemen coming up the pipeline. preissing wasnt in their plans so one of hickey/teubert/voinov/drewiskie will take quinceys place

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  • Odd Man Rush

    We want KESSEL,We want KESSEL,We want KESSEL,We want KESSELLLLLLLLLLLLL we would then have a star……..

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  • Largus

    @Jordan

    Kessel is another Jason Blake. He’s a puck hog, he’s selfish and tends not to be a team player. In his last thirty games of the season excluding the very last where he had a hat trick, he had 9 goals in 30 games. He tends to be streaky and can go very cold. He is not the player we want in Toronto ever, he has exactly the same qualities that Blake had when he showed up.

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  • Josh

    kessel led his team in scoring in the playoffs with a torn labrum. he also scored 36 goals as a 21 year old. he is NOT anything like jason blake

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  • Largus

    @ Josh

    Go up about 20-30 posts and read what Staples has to say in part 3. Will explain why I feel that this could increase their interest in Kaberle.

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  • leafsforlife

    i dont think you are the person to be criticizing other leaf fans when you were the one that QUIT as a leaf fan on draft day because things didnt go your way. im a leaf fan through and through. this isnt real man. its just fantasy. relax and chill a bit. youre gonna have a heart attack before youre 25.
    i will explain about kessel. in boston he has a centre that fed him the puck and he scored the goals. who is our #1 centre to do that??? we dont have one right now. he would be a waste for us. we are building towards the future. we had plenty of offence last year when nobody thought we would. so why should that change. we have plenty of young guys in the system that will come up and more than fill any voids left by tlusty. i included tlusty because he dont fit in the category of what burke wants. he has skill sure but we can say the same thing about stempniak. it dont mean he will play how they want their entire team to play. Ron Wilson will not like Kessel either if those 2 cannot play their style. i am trying to turn assets into something more for the future. i do not deny the skill and speed of those players. and yes if we had joe thornton or rick nash to give them the puck maybe its different but its an over-all team not just 1 or 2 players.
    you need to lighten up man. we all want the leafs to win but there has to be patience during the rebuild. as for knowlege, its a matter of opinion if some leaf fans know more than others. i was playing along with the post. no point in going ballistic about it. its easier to say your opinion than to throw stones from your glass house.

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  • Odd Man Rush

    @Jordan To make that comment about Kessel you know nothing about hockey ,you should watch him play sometime he plays with Boston ,just in case you didn’t know. LOL

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  • Richard

    To Toronto: Jordan Staal,Eric Tangradi,Sergei Gonchar(1-yr salary dump).
    To Pittsburg: Thomas Kaberle,Matt Stajan,Pen’s choice of Jeff Finger or Jonas Frogren.
    Leafs get the #1 centre they really need,and a top left wing power forward prospect,who might be ready for next season.Put him on 1st line with Staal and Blake.This trade breaks up the 9 player logjam on D,so we can sign Beauchemin(more toughness).Trade Gonchar for prospect and/or draft pick,failing that trade White or Van Ryn for picks/prospects,in which case we could trade Gonchar at trade deadline.Replace Stajan by signing Manny Malhotra(great on face-offs) as our 4th centre with Staal,Mikhail Grabovski and John Mitchell.
    Pittsburg meanwhile get Kaberle who is 4 yrs younger,cheaper,as good or better than Gonchar, less injury-prone,and signed for 2 more yrs.Stajan replaces Staal as 3rd line centre.Finger or Frogren replaces Scuderi,who they lost to free agency.We could even throw in Harrison to replace Hal Gill who they also lost to FA.The cap hits are pretty much a wash.Sounds like a good reasonable trade for both teams to me,addressing both team’s needs…..Comments?

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  • Staples

    @Largus

    You might be right about LA needing another offensive defenseman now that Quincey has been shipped out to Colorado. Smyth’s contract is not inexpensive, but Lombardi worked wonders to convince the Avalanche to take Preissing too and his $2.75M cap hit for the next two years (keep in mind, Preissing would have been forced down to the minors had he stayed, notwithstanding his salary). So in the end, if my calculations are right, adding Smyth adds about $3M to our cap total, leaving us with about $7.5M of cap room left, which will be further depleted once we re-sign RFA’s Johnson and Teddy Purcell and figure out who takes that sixth D position. So, there’s definitely room to fit Kaberle in.

    BUT I still doubt Lombardi would move for Kaberle. First, Kaberle is surely an upgrade offensively, and losing Quincey hurts in that he was (along with Doughty) one of our two most productive offensive defensemen last year. That leaves Doughty and Johnson, and maybe Hickey if he proves himself quickly. Hardly ideal at the moment, but there’s a boatload of potential there, and sometimes you need to give kids of this pedigree (#2, #3 and #4 overall picks) the chance to play and see how it all works out. For an upcoming season where merely making the playoffs would constitute a success, this seems to be a risk worth taking. Second, Lombardi intimated today to a local beat reporter that he’s not trading B. Schenn at all — “teams know better than to ask me for Schenn” — which, if true, removes from the trading block the asset most coveted by the Leafs. You could say Lombardi was posturing to drive up the price to acquire B. Schenn, and I’ve never been very good at mind-reading. But I will say that a few of the commenters here have made a bit too much of Lombardi’s joke about picking B. Schenn to piss off Burkie. In terms of talent, character and style of play, the kid definitely fits in with what Lombardi has been saying he wants to build. I’m not saying B. Schenn can’t be moved at all, but I still can’t see him being dealt for Kaberle. Of course, if I’m wrong, I’ll be sure to come back here and admit my mistake! Third, Lombardi has been on the record many, many times saying he needs to leave cap room to pay our younger players as they mature into solid NHL’ers. The cynics among Kings fans have accused him of using this as an excuse to avoid adding payroll since he arrived, but to his credit, he has locked up Kopitar, Brown and Greene; and he’s trying to lock up Johnson this summer. Unless he has other deals up his sleeve, I have to think he will guard the remaining cap room jealously.

    Maybe one of you will be kind enough to explain Burke’s fixation with B. Schenn, apart from the obvious brother connection. Surely Burke can find a return of equal or better value elsewhere?

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  • duncboy

    from today’s Toronto Sun:

    Burke reported yesterday that a deal between the Leafs and the Boston Bruins, which would have seen Toronto defenceman Tomas Kaberle head to Boston for the high-scoring Kessel, is not on the table anymore, at least not at this point.

    In fact, Burke added that interest in Kaberle’s services, once very high, has cooled down.

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  • Jordan

    I do, I have always watched Boston games, and he has huge potential. Led his team in playoff scoring too. Hes going to be one of those guy who are always in the top 10 scoring in the league, and we will all say “remember when we couldnt have had him? I just dont get it, you all want top 6 talent, but when we have a chance to get it you pick them apart. I have not seen one Bruins Blog were they think giving Kessel up for Kaberle is worth it. Theres a reason for that. The only guy in our organization we have now that close to his potential is maybe Kadri is he develops well

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  • frank spanky

    I also do not want Kessel and it won’t happen anyway.

    I would be TOTALLY surprised if any one in the Leafs division makes any trade with them.

    I believe also that Staal and Schenn are NOT going anywhere.

    What I do think is that White is a more moveable commodity then Kaberle, but both will be gone.

    And on a final note: a 3 way deal is probable…

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  • BurkesBruisers

    I agree with Jordon on Nash. Nash could have been a UFA and had his pick of team and contract, but instead signs to play in some worthless, podunk hockey town?? And forgets his Hockey Night In Canada roots?

    I expect a MAJOR drop-off in his stats having received that BIG fat, cushy contract – especially, in combination with the lame Phoenix-like hockey environment. He’s as good as retired now. I can’t even conceive of him as a star player anymore. For no true star lowers his sights for the armpit of success.

    Columbus should have been the springboard to something greater. Now it’ll be where he quietly fades into obscurity.

    What a waste.

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  • pazuzu

    I agree that Staal to the leafs for Kabby and Stajan makes the most sense by far and I really think that may happen. But just for fun let me throw this one out there!
    Leafs need a #1center. Just one. What about Kaberle and Stajan to Philly for Briere(if he’s back to full health) and 2010 2nd round pick?. For Toronto, Briere fills the #1 center role for a few years, he’s a point per game player and line up probably with Hagman and Blake. Grabs, Poni, and Kulemin had a pretty good run late in the year so i’m comfortable with them as a second line. You then have 3 spots on the third line for the ufa’s and young guys to fill. Don’t forget Van Ryn…he’s no Kabby, but he can play and has the potential to be a real good PP guy. Philly’s close to the cap and sheds 4 million in salary, and instantly have one of, if not the best, blueline in hockey. The Flyers got pretty good depth up front and could live without Briere and did for most of the season.

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  • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/index.php/2009/07/02/cox-burke-targeting-malhotra-beauchemin/ Ryan

    To Los Angles: Thomas Kaberle, Mikhail Grabovski, Stalberg ( conditonal draft pick )

    To Toronto: Brayden Schenn, Alexander Frolov

    Los Angles is getting a powerplay quarter back defencemen who has considerable leadership skills in Thomas Kaberle. Drew Doughty and Kyle Quicney are there top two d-men and are both under 24 years old. Kaberle would run the back end.They recieve Grabo who they were in on at the trade deadline and could potentialy be there 2nd line centere with 30 goals. He fits in nicely with their orginzation. Stalberg has upside to crack their lineup and has good potential. Stalberg could take Frolov’s stop in the lineup and may not be as impact full right away but very well could be in 1 our 2 more seasons. They also recieve a draft pick.

    Toronto is getting there man in Brayden Schenn who they desperately wanted at the 2009 draft in montreal. He could be there number one centere in 2-3 years and could have an impact almost right away. Like his brother Luke schenn he has a good work ethic with tremendous upside. The brother’s would be re-uinted. They also get a 6-2, 216 pound man who will be play on our first line. He is still young at 27 and scored 32 goals and 66 points in 77 nhl games. He’s not from North America but due to his size and strength this young man fits the Brian Burke mold.

    IMO this deal works for both teams. What do you guys think?

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  • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/index.php/2009/07/02/cox-burke-targeting-malhotra-beauchemin/ Ryan

    And actually Quincey was used in the Ryan Smyth trade and to Staples and Jordan about 30 posts up if you don’t think the kings are gunning for the playoffs this season why would they bring in a 33 year old in Smyth if they were’nt making a push for the playoffs? My bet is there going full out and a Kaberle to the Kings deal is a very real possibility.

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  • Burke’sBruisers

    I agree. Old Man Smyth’s addition suggests a playoff attempt is afoot. And more reinforcements are going to be sought after. Likely, one or two experienced D included.

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