Maple Leafs 2009-10 Point Predictions

by on August 2, 2009 in Uncategorized - 31 Comments

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Yes, I know … it’s been a looooong time since I’ve posted anything here, but there is reason, and not because it’s off season. You’ll see a lot more frequent postings moving forward.

I’ve been working on the fantasy staple, McKeen’s Annual Hockey Pool Yearbook, writing up player scouting notes for about a dozen players each for all 30 teams.

Just finished up with my predictions for the NHL and thought it would a good discussion point for Leafs fans. The predictions process is a team effort for the Yearbook, but these were my contributions for the Maple Leafs next season.

Notes:
John Mitchell, Rickard Wallin, Wayne Primeau and Jamal Mayers will be fighting it out for the bottom two pivot spots (3rd and 4th line)

You’ll notice Jiri Tlusty playing less than an entire schedule .. aside from a breakout performance on the Marlies last season, I feel he will make appearances in both the AHL and NHL in ’09-10. He has a top-6 spot to lose

I went conservative with Hagman, feeling he flirts with career high 27 goals. Grabovski and Kulemin are a little light too.

I think Bozak is a potential top-6, and will get spot duty there.

I’m not an Ian White fan, and recognize his value to the Buds, but don’t see that translating into a points bonanza.

Ladies and gents … your 2009-10 Toronto Maple Leafs Points predictions.

Player GP G A Pts PIM Pts/Gm
Blake, Jason 80 26 32 58 28 0.725
Ponikarovsky, Alexei 77 23 31 54 28 0.701
Kaberle, Tomas 79 6 45 51 18 0.646
Hagman, Niklas 76 24 27 51 32 0.671
Grabovski, Mikhail 76 23 26 49 52 0.645
Stempniak, Lee 79 19 24 43 38 0.544
Kulemin, Nikolai 79 22 19 41 22 0.519
Stajan, Matt 79 13 21 34 48 0.430
Tlusty, Jiri 48 14 12 26 22 0.542
Bozak, Tyler 62 12 14 26 24 0.419
White, Ian 77 6 19 25 50 0.325
Wallin, Rickard 58 8 16 24 26 0.414
Van Ryn, Mike 54 5 18 23 44 0.426
Finger, Jeff 72 4 18 22 48 0.306
Mitchell, John 70 10 11 21 39 0.300
Beauchemin, Francois 78 6 14 20 67 0.256
Schenn, Luke 80 4 14 18 66 0.225
Komisarek, Mike 74 3 15 18 139 0.243
Mayers, Jamal 62 6 11 17 91 0.274
Primeau, Wayne 60 2 6 8 49 0.133
Orr, Colton 80 2 3 5 218 0.063
Exelby, Garnet 54 1 4 5 98 0.093

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  • Canadian kid

    Looks about right…

    Except I think we’ll actually have three 25 goal guys….Pony and Hags along with Blake.

    I don’t think Stemps hits 19, either. Max 15 for him…he just won’t get the chance to show he can pot more as I don’t think Wilson and co. really care for him.

    I sure hope Tlusty gets to 15 this year….

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  • TuckerThomas

    I sure hope you’re wrong!

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  • vesku35

    i’d be ecstatic if stempniak bounced back with a 20 goal, 40 point campaign. thanks for passing these along gus

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  • vesku35

    25 goal scorers… blake, ponikarovsky, hagman, GRABOVSKI

    with kulemin notching 20 as well

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  • Shafty

    Hate to say it but, this roster has lottery pick written all over it.

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  • Canadian kid

    Hate to say it? I’d be ecstatic with a lotto pick… I think we need one more solid year of drafting (if not 2) before we are REALLY ready. This year will very much be a learning year for a lot of our guys on FW and it stands to reason they will show both flashes of brilliance as well as flashes of inexperience.

    I really think a ton of our season rests on the shoulders of our goalie tandem and how well they are able to cope with the pressure other teams are going to be able to exert on us. Our defensive D approach this off season should help stem some of that – but our total lack of an offensive weapon will mean teams can take more chances. Something Wilson and co. are very cognizant of.

    I still think we see 25 goalscorers on the Leafs this year and I admit Grabs could very easily unseat one of my earlier predictions to land in that group.

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  • Canadian kid

    Oops! That last paragraph should’ve read three 25 goalscorers….

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  • http://mckeenshockey.com Gus Katsaros

    @TuckerThomas

    wrong? Me? hahahha … that’s funny, I guess, it COULD happen….

    I’m a Stempniak booster. He has to shore up his defensive game, but the kid has good puck pursuit and finishing skills. His work ethic has to be better and more consistent.

    I also don’t think Grabovski hits 25. Poni will …

    I also really like the Bozak signing and if he starts off hot, could find himself in a more permanent scoring role (as long as he moves to the wing).

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  • http://mapleleafshotstove.com Garrett Bauman

    Good stuff, Gus.
    I think Stajan will again be in the neighbourhood of 50 points, and Grabo may come close to 60. Right now they look to be the top 2 centres on the team (interchangeably), and if that is the case entering the season, the points will come. Stajan showed he could do it last year (with or without Antropov), and last year’s experience will surely benefit Grabo, especially if Hagman remains on his line.

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  • Joe

    dont think Finger or MVR will be around long enough, or if they are, get the playing time to achieve those point totals. Couldnt hurt if they did though.

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  • lilgrnmen17

    I am amazed that you, someone who’s opinion I totally respect Gus, has Bozak pencilled in for 62 games. I feel quite certain that unless he blows management away in training camp, he will be leading the Marlies in ice time and playing a prime time role with them to help further his development. Burke and Wilson understand the value of letting young talent get important minutes in a lot of different situations, something they likely won’t get with the big club.

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  • Wook

    Thanks for that Gus.
    I hope that Beauchemin will get us a little more than 20 points. He should get much more PP time this year, and I am hoping that he will produce at the rate he did in the absence of Niedermayer. XLB should get at least 35 more minutes in the box (i.e. 5 more fights and 5 more roughing minors).
    .
    Your prediction puts the total number of goals at 239, which would put us at 14th overall using last year’s stats. With much improved D and goaltending (hopefully) this year, these numbers may put us into the playoffs.

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  • TuckerThomas

    Based on the moves Burke has allreay made (improved d-fence, a much tougher bottom 6 and lots of competition for the top two lines) not making the playoffs isn’t an option.

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  • glgbill

    As with Wook, the numbers on Beauchemin jumped out for me too. I’d like to believe he’ll crack 30 for the reasons cited above. Everything else looked plausible-bang on. No quibbles here.

    Acknowledging the playoffs are a definite goal, I still see us on the outside looking in (which is fine by me, personally). I believe goals against will go down, but less than expected. More kids up front will lead to more mistakes, offsetting the blueline improvements somewhat. We’ll lose 3-2, 4-1 games, but rarely get embarrassed with five, six, seven goals against. This will be an important coaching year for Wilson — developing a number of young players (and Bozak w/60 games would be amazing!) One more year in the lottery and then we’re on our way.

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  • Hine

    Totals look good. Just as an FYI though you have 568 games worth of defenseman totalled but for 6 d playing there are only 492 games in a season.

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  • Jordan

    I agree with most of them, I think Grabovski will pot much mopre then 49 points though. I would guess close to 60-65. I also think Tlusty plays the full year and will get 15-18 goals. BOOK IT! (J5)

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  • goldenleafs

    still trying to figure out why Wallin only gets 58 games… you got him breaking his leg or something? :)

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  • taterchips

    Hefty bit of work for McKeens Gus. So are you thinking Hanson won’t see a single NHL game next season? I figured a starting spot would be his to lose.

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  • B Leaf

    Hey Gus,
    Pretty decent evaluation. I like Whitey for more points (35), but I understand that you differ. I am hopeful and reasonably optimistic that Grabovski hits 20 goals and maybe 35 assists, I thought last year if his linemates had of finished better he could have had a bunch. I think his playmaking skills are underrated. I agree with you on Tlusty- I hope he proves us wrong. Whether it is Bozak or someone else I agree that someone will step up unexpectedly and get some points. I really have seen very little of Bozak’s play.
    Thanks for the report

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  • LeafsRyan

    If your predections are true why did the leafs go out and gets Beauchemin. According to your numbers finger and Van ryn are making less, but have more points and Finger is very good defesivley.

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  • betterforsome

    Looks pretty reasonable, Gus. I do think you’ve overrated Stempniak though, and I’m not a Stajan booster but I do think he ends up with more than 34 points.

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  • Schenn

    Pretty hard to predict points as nobody can forsee injuries and linemates for the upcoming season.
    As for a this Leafs team being in the running for a Lottery pick, I think you’re way off as there is no way this seaon’s edition of the Leafs will be worse than last years.
    Start from the net out – Toskala should be healthy and if not we not have Gustavsson instead of Joseph/Gerber.
    On defense, the Leafs have lost Kubina and gained Komisarek, Beauchemin and Exelby, while Schenn should have improved coming into his Sophmore season.
    Up front, everything is basically the same as last year, minus Antropov, although there will be alot more compettion for jobs this year and all those rookies from last season now have some experience.
    Can’t see this team finishing in the Bottom 10, let alone in the Bottom 5 for a Lottery Pick.

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  • http://mckeenshockey.com Gus Katsaros

    @lilgrnmen17
    Although I agree that some Marlies time may be necessary, he’s not an 18 yr old, and has matured since entering the college ranks. Bozak is almost a legit NHLer, but hasn’t gone through the grind of a season.

    @Hine
    Just a little quick background as to how I did this. I made line combos and defensive pairings. Tried to get them as evenly as possible and then began the predictions. I didn’t take into account the number of total games as that gets filetered out in the overall process ….

    @goldenleafs
    There’s no guarantee that Wallin plays every game. I think the bottom roster will see a lot of movement. There’s Wallin, Mitchell, Primeau and Mayers all competing for two pivot spots. Someone has to sit.

    @taterchips
    Hanson is a potential bottom six forward. He had a chance with the Buds last season cause he was newly signed, but aside from spot duty in the NHL, he’s Marlies bound.

    @LeafsRyan
    There’s more to defensemen (and players in general) than point production. The peripheral value that Beauchemin adds to the blueline won’t show up in goals and assists, rather in lessened goals against.

    @Schenn
    There will be struggles offensively this season and quite likely the difference between a playoff spot and a tee time.

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  • dannyleafs247

    hope your wrong looks like last year

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  • Steve

    Hey Gus,

    Good interesting reading as per usual. I’m going to do my own version of same over at http://leafs.hockeyanalysis.com in the next couple of days and I was just curious about your predictions on a few fronts.

    I find it interesting that you predict that Grabovski will only score 23 goals, and will only pick up 26 assists, over the course of 76 games. This is for two reasons. Firstly, you predict that Kulemin will net 22 goals. Secondly, that seems to ignore the likelihood that Grabovski’s PP time should increase dramatically this season.

    The increase of 7 goals by Kulemin should roughly imply an increase of 3 or 4 assists for Grabovski, since over the last 3/4 of the season they were typically line mates, and Grabovski assisted on half his goals. Last year, Grabovski assisted on 6 of Kulemin’s final 12 scores, while similarly, Kulemin assisted on 6 of Grabovski’s 20 goals.

    To me that implies that if Kulemin’s assist and goal totals both go up by 25%, that it stands to reason that Grabovski’s totals should increase proportionally to boot. You only have Grabovski’s totals improving by 1 point. I would argue based on the increase for Kulemin, that Grabovski should improve to roughly 25 goals, and 32 or 33 assists.

    If you factor in the fact that last year Grabovski had less time on the PP than Matt Stajan, and that it could reasonably be expected that that situation would be reversed this season, you would have to think Grabovski’s increase would be noticeable on the PP point side of things also. Don’t forget that Antropov played over 200 minutes on the PP for the Leafs last season, and some of those minutes are going to go to Kulemin and Grabovski. If Grabovski is the man stirring the offensive drink for the Leafs this season, I would anticipate his production to be closer to 60+ points than 48 or 49.

    I’ll get into more depth on this on my own blog, but good work overall. Thanks for providing the interesting discussion points.

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