Kinks in the System: Who Gets the Part

by on September 29, 2009 in Uncategorized - 229 Comments

Share

The pre-season Buds may have exuded that truculent belligerence so deeply worn into the modern Toronto fans lexicon, but they rarely looked convincing. Either letting leads slip or being forced to fight back from poor starts, the Leafs managed to scrap their way to a strong 6-3 record. But as the 2008 Detroit Lions will attest to, a good pre-season rarely translates into a successful regular season.

Subsequently, while it is easy to buy into the hype of September hockey after the barren months of Summer, the Leafs will do well to learn from the more lackadaisical moments of their 6-3 warm up before they start lacing up against the cream of the leagues “A” squads. After all, rallying performances aside, the pre-season has done little but affirm that the Leafs own one of the strongest depth charts in the league, not necessarily the strongest team.

Too often the Leafs were burnt puck watching in their own end, evidenced continual lapses of concentration after goals, perpetually lacked consistent 60 minute performances and regularly let opposing teams machine gun the Leafs net for the best part of the first period. It may seem hyper critical of a team that won two thirds of their pre-season games, but pre-season is where the bugs come to the fore.

Obviously transition proves a bumpy road. With a new core of veterans learning to work alongside feet dipping rookies, Ron Wilson has been simultaneously trying to impose his own brand of West Coast hockey, largely witnessed last year, on a revolving door of players and line combinations. Hammering home the physical advantage, Wilson has also tried to install a more attacking ethos to a fundamentally stronger group of players.

Be it a forecheck fashioned on the speedy Capitals, or the strong side defenseman pinching; the implementation of these new systems on untested lines inevitably led to the Leafs becoming unstuck. The worrying problem is that the kinks became more apparent in the stabler lineups of the final few games.

The strong side pinching in particular was utilized with positive effect, but also led to several lopsided breakaways which will surely be more clinically punished by the leagues top lines. While Kaberle and Komisarek seem to have worked an instinctual understanding that has seen the Czech stalwart come alive, other defensive pairings and more crucially the centers (bar Bozak) have looked less accountable.

Meanwhile the forechecking play has been hit and miss. The more pugnacious and hungry players, Stalberg and Mitchell to name two, have looked more than adept at harrying opposing defenders but all too often the good work is unhinged by sloppy neutral zone coverage or lazy puck pursuit, Grabovski, Kulemin and Tlusty to name three.

To be fair Kulemin improved as the September schedule wound on and Grabovski was the victimized linchpin of many experimental lines, but both were inconsistent performers and in a word, “consistency” was the very thing the pre-season Leafs lacked, the very thing the Leafs of last season lacked.

Sure that is unpreventable in the maelstrom of players hitting the late summer rota, it also has to be remedied fast. It is one thing to see inconsistent performances from young, over worked rookies, but many of the players and player combinations that struggled were those penciled in for opening night.

One can easily point at shifts where Blake, Stajan, Kulemin, Tlusty, Grabovski and Exelby looked great and worked hard, there were also plenty of occasions when they were almost completely absent… or worse.

Considering Burke has done his utmost to make the Leafs a meritocracy and remove the culture of entitlement witnessed in the dark days of JFJ, too few players treated the pre-season as the audition it should have been. Meanwhile those that did: Gustavsson, Bozak, Stalberg, Rosehill, and to a lesser extent Ian White; all made strong arguments for inclusion. Making a stand out of principle or brushing pre-season performances under the go-to (pre-season means nothing) excuse, Burke and Wilson have got a difficult decision on who makes the team on Thursday night.

In many respects its a dilemma most coaches would relish, the Leafs have several serviceable front lines and a defense that on paper is top 5 quality. With perpetual question mark Lee Stempniak coming on in later games and pairing well alongside the maligned Rickard Wallin and Niklas Hagman playing at his best; the sheer number of options is enviable and also fraught with pitfalls.

With so many to account for whilst also eating up a line with likely truculent fan favorites such as Colton Orr and Wayne Primeau, those expected to perform (Blake and Grabovski) or those who knew they had to perform (Tlusty, Kulemin, Stajan, Toskala and Exelby) have been largely an enigma.

Subsequently trying to breed the very same culture of accountability that powered the early season, undermanned Leafs of last year to unexpected pre-December heights whilst also trying to find greater consistency over this pre-season could prove even more of a challenge with a deeper, more talented roster with so many “unproven” youngsters knocking at the door.

If consistency proves the mantra on the ice, one wonders how consistent the Burke-Wilson tandem will prove when it comes to picking the most deserved players against the diminutive Canadiens. It’s one thing to expect to play, quite another to earn it.

VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
Rating: 0.0/10 (0 votes cast)
VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

Print article

  • Edward Flannery

    Yeah but im more articulate than Charlie (hahah) so i wanted to get his defense in. Im done with it as long as you are. Well almost done with it all, i will never be able to get over it Potsy unless you answer me on the following that has nothing to do with Power Forwards.
    Phil Housley, how did you see that man as a hockey player?

    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0.0/5 (0 votes cast)
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
  • Potsy

    Charlie is a big boy… I hope. If it turns out charlies is a pimple faced 13 year old, I will feel shame.

    As for Housely….Over rated

    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0.0/5 (0 votes cast)
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
  • Richard-Steven Williams

    @Potsy What about Ken Klee?

    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0.0/5 (0 votes cast)
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
  • LT73

    @ Richard

    Wendel is a tough one… However, Wendel might be the exception to the rule. I my eyes, Clark was a power forward. The guy was perhaps one of the biggest open ice hitters in NHL history, and he creamed just abut every heavy weight of his time. It’s hard to think of him as an ‘Energy Forward’.

    @ Potsy

    I respect your opinion, but respectfully disagree. And I think if you have a good read through the above comments you will see that you are in the minority with regards to your definition of ‘Power Forward’.

    And just for the record, I love this sort of debate. This is why I keep coming back to this forum. It gives us all a chance to share our thoughts, and ultimately, we all become better hockey fans for it.

    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0.0/5 (0 votes cast)
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
  • Edward Flannery

    @Potsy
    Now we can end it. Charlies probbaly gonna unleash on ya though.
    Phil Housley was the most confusing pick up by the Leafs organization ever. Gotta respect a man who managed to last 43 years in the NHL but he was just one of those guys who grinded my gears.

    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0.0/5 (0 votes cast)
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
  • LT73

    @ Edward

    Naw, I think B Leaf is right about Grabo. There is a little Dougie in him as well. The obvious difference is, Dougie was also an excellent leader, of which I suspect, Grabo will never be.

    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0.0/5 (0 votes cast)
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
  • Richard-Steven Williams

    @LT You see I wouldn’t describe Cal Clutterbuck as a power forward but he is a good open ice hitter who drops the gloves, I kinda feel Clark played with that kind of energy but was also a talented scorer… maybe Clark was a one off… a Wendel Clark type player.

    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0.0/5 (0 votes cast)
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
  • Potsy

    @RSW you mean the caped Kleesader?

    Never got a fair shake.

    Remember how great everyone was calling the Klee for Sugloboz trade at the time.

    Klee retired this summer, a serviceable 6/7 guy

    Suglobov? anyone know where he is?

    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0.0/5 (0 votes cast)
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
  • LT73

    It will be interesting to see whether or not Kadri can become the kind of leader Dougie was.

    Speaking of which, does anyone know whether or not Kadri will be wearing the C in London?

    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0.0/5 (0 votes cast)
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
  • Richard-Steven Williams

    Ah Potsy you won my heart… loved Klee, even when he played for the Capitals… I love the unsung warriors!

    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0.0/5 (0 votes cast)
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
  • LT73
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0.0/5 (0 votes cast)
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
  • Charlie

    I don’t have to unleash, you all did it for me. Sob, thanks! I feel like Taylor Swift after all those spoiled celebs came to her rescue. Except, as evidenced by Garrett’s blog, none of us are spoiled! :)
    .
    I will say this Potsy. Like you keep ignoring, make a list of one player from each team who you consider to be their power forward. I know some teams have more than one, but take one. Then look up how many fights they had. You will see that very soon you’ll have contradicted yourself.
    .
    If Kadri comes close to Dougie… wow, I can’t even imagine how unbelievable that would be.

    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0.0/5 (0 votes cast)
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
  • Charlie

    @ Mumbular and LT73

    If Poni played like Blake, he would be unstoppable.

    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0.0/5 (0 votes cast)
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
  • LT73

    @ Richard

    Clarkey was definitely a one-off. It’s almost sacrilege to compare anyone to him. I’m not sure there will ever be another Wendel. What a beauty (As DC would say).

    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0.0/5 (0 votes cast)
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
  • Potsy

    This is the last thing I will say on the topic.

    When the phrase was coined in the eighties it referred to the players that hit scored and fought.

    Clark, Neely, Tocchet those types.

    Perhaps, over time, the term has evolved to mean “big guy who scores.”

    I admit I am old school.

    Perhaps it is the old schoolness and doesn’t allow me to include non fighters in the power forward category.

    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0.0/5 (0 votes cast)
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
  • Gary Shields

    Having said a lot already about Toskala, I wasn’t going to say anything more after that last game. However, when I read comments like “it was the D’s fault” or “those were good goals, he didn’t have a chance on them” I can’t help myself and need to rant a bit more about him.
    .
    First thing, goalies love to hear talk like that. They really do. It’s the best and one of those little secrets they keep to themselves. How wonderful it is when the whole team seems to think the puck going into the net was their fault and that poor little you didn’t have a chance. It warms you up better than a nice hot cup of coco after the game. Problem is, it’s bullshit…
    .
    Most people don’t play goal (outside of ball hockey and the likes) and really don’t understand the position, or what it’s like to play it at a higher level. It really looks like some people think “you just stop the puck, right?” and believe it’s all positional play and reflexes. However, it’s actually a very cerebral position and is a lot like playing chess with the guys charging down the ice at you. I’m not a forward, and I’m sure those positions and defence also have a lot more to them than I am aware of. It only goes without saying. So when a forward doesn’t finish a hit, or the D makes a mistake, it’s not the end of the play, it’s when your turn to play starts. Otherwise, you might as well just stick a cardboard cutout in the net. Oh, there are a few causes when the D does cause a goal, and I always hounded my D until they stopped doing them. Things like, don’t play goalie in front of the goalie. Honestly, it isn’t helping. The guy is in net because he can see pucks moving at that speed and catch them. That’s why he’s in there, and you’re not. But, that assumes he can see the damn puck. Either part like the Red Sea on a shot, or lay down and take away the lower part of the net, so he can concentrate on the upper part. But don’t be a goalie. It really sucks. Second, thanks for the effort, but please stop deflecting the shot a foot after the goalie has established in his mind the track of the shot. Putting your stick on the ice in front of that shot just makes things harder. Again, the guy is in the net because he can see the puck. Trust him to stop a straight-on shot that he can see. Short of putting the puck into your own net, that pretty much absolves the D from being the cause of a goal. They may be the cause of a shot on goal, but that’s about all they can take credit for. Letting it not go into the net it the goalie’s job!
    .
    So back to Toskala and his plight. Oh but first, put the idea of Gust starting off in the Marlies until he gets more experience and “seasoning” out of your heads. LOL He has more net presence and command of that position than Toskala ever had. Yes, he will work on things and get accustomed to the play here and all that, but mentally, he is so much sounder than Toskala and has a superiorly focused mind. Toskala will never be able to compete against him. They are going to be in different classes. Gust will only improve on his already fine skills. Toskala has a lot of work to do just to catch up to his level of play. It’s going to be a slaughter as long as Gust doesn’t crack with the weight of Toronto on him. However, he sounds pretty well grounded, and I don’t think that’s going to be an issue. Yes, it’s only three periods in the preseason, but I’m not looking at the score, I’m looking at how they play their positions.
    .
    So Toskala and those “impossible” to stop goals. What’s missing here is some understanding of the fine points of the position. The one that slipped in between his arm and his body. You hear the “he just needs to hold his arm in tighter on those shots”, or really… Umm, actually, what he needs to do is use his head and shift his body to the side so he isn’t trying to perform the equivalent of trying to catch a fly in the air (at 100 mph) with a pair of chopsticks.
    .
    The pass from the back of the net into the slot that beat him. Yes, it’s nice if you have the speed and luck and can get across to the other side to make the big save. Yet again, the fine point of play is he missed the block of the pass through his crease. He tried to do it (he’s been getting some coaching it seems), but he executed the attempt poorly and missed the pass, thus leaving himself complete screwed on the shot. Not only did he let the shot happen, his attempt at blocking the pass put him so out of position it eliminated his ability to even try for the miracle save on the shot.
    .
    Butterfly technique isn’t kneeling down on your pads and leaving the top of the net open.
    .
    The wrap around. He chassed the guy so bad he almost followed him around the net. This is poor mental processing in the position. If I recall, he actually left the net and dropped into a butterfly in, what looked like an attempt to stop the pass out to the front of the net. It was so bad it was actually funny to watch. Obviously, he’s been getting coaching on his lack of anticipation and is trying to learn some new tricks, like, the best way to stop a shot is to prevent it from happening in the first place. He simply is out of his comfort zone and is trying to juggle a whole bunch of new demands to take his game to the next level. Time will tell how he makes out. But it’s awfully late in his career to be learning these points. Up to now, he’s been relying on his reflexes, and that only takes you so far.
    .
    The two-on-one. Having just witnessed Gust pulling off a great two-on-none, he already had a lot of pressure to handle that one. He did his usual and reacted after the shot rather than anticipating the play. To compare: Gust sees the guys heading down the ice. He knows the options and helps to coral the play in the direction he needs and comes out high enough so the guy with the puck can’t shoot easily and takes the bait to pass. He’s facing him, but he’s really waiting on that pass. As soon as the puck moves he takes position and gets that leg and stick out there for the shot. Gust had them out into position before the shot, and he was looking at his stick in the air. He could have moved it if the puck was a bit higher as well. He was anticipating and controlling the play to improve his odds on the shot. Toskala, stays with the shooter “in case he shoots at all that net” and when the guy passes, reacts and turns to the other player and then swats at the puck after the shot, trying to bat it out of the air (or catch a fly with those chopsticks again). There is a huge difference in how these two goalies approach shots.
    .
    Okay, this is already way too long a post. Sorry. But the bottom line is that while Toskala has decent speed and good reflexes, he lacks the mindset to proactively play the position well. They are trying to teach him that now, and you can see it in the new mistakes he’s making. Will he be able to pull it all together and up his game to the next level? I don’t know. But he has always looked frantic in net when things move past the basic positional play stuff, and I don’t really know if he is going to be able to handle all those new balls in the air. As they say in fighter pilot school, his bucket is looking like it’s getting full. The Monster, on the other hand, looks calm, cool and collected while in net. His mind has lots of resources left to think the position and influence the play around him. Expect big things from the big guy.
    .
    Toskala did show his disappointment at the end of that last game. That’s a good sign. One thing that drove me nuts about this guy was his indifference. Well, he feels something now…
    .
    After Gust’s big save the other night, the commentator asked “What is Toskala thinking on the bench right now?” Well, he was thinking two things. First, come on kid, choke! The second was, Fuck!!!! This, added to the pressure already of learning new aspects of the position he thought he knew, plus Burke’s lack of ‘appreciation’ for his play, a contract year, etc. isn’t making things any easier for the guy. He has a lot of balls in the air right now, and I really don’t know how he is going to handle all the new pressure. However, he does need some time to see how he is going to assimilate all that information and cope with the new demands. Yes, he is coming of surgery, and I saw him stretching out his side a couple of times during the game, so he is obviously feeling it still. But that doesn’t account for all the mental mistakes and just plain bad technique that he has. Those are learnt “skills” that he brings to the position. They are still there and that is what concerns me. His movement has improved as a result of the surgery, so that’s good. His play is still poor because of his mental side of the game, and that’s bad. With all the new skills to learn, all the pressure, all those balls up in the air, I’ll be the first to sing his praises if he manages to keep them all up there and not drop a bunch of them all over the place. Make no mistake, this is going to be the toughest year of his career. Best of luck to him. Seriously, I really do wish him luck. If he can pull this off, we’ll have a hell of a good backup goalie. Yes, I said backup.

    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0.0/5 (0 votes cast)
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
  • Edward Flannery

    Last year we raised 93 to the Rafters, to the fucking rafters boys!!!!! Possibly some pre-mature over reaching on Kadri into Dougie?

    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0.0/5 (0 votes cast)
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
  • Potsy

    @ Charlie

    Not every team has a power forward. In fact most teams don’t.

    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0.0/5 (0 votes cast)
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
  • Richard-Steven Williams

    I kinda think the league is short on protypical power forwards. I’d agree with most of Potsy list save Avery (who is an agitator like Tootoo, Hollweg, Jansen and the other dregs of the league) but other than that Taylor Pyatt, Steve Bernier, Ryan Getzlaf… of cousre the Leafs should really gun for NATHAN HORTON, now there is a power forward.

    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0.0/5 (0 votes cast)
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
  • Potsy

    Danm it.

    I said I wouldn’t say anything else on the topic.

    OK.

    Starting now!

    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0.0/5 (0 votes cast)
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
  • Charlie

    Ok Potsy, so give me a list of ten current power forwards. I’m curious as to who fits your mold.

    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0.0/5 (0 votes cast)
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
  • Charlie

    @ Gary Shields

    Can you imagine if you clicked on submit and got an error message and lost your whole post?!?!

    Damn, I would shed a tear for you.

    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0.0/5 (0 votes cast)
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
  • Potsy

    Charlie can’t you just take the list I provided earlier

    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0.0/5 (0 votes cast)
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
  • Edward Flannery

    @Gary Shields
    Great read, agree with what your saying. You brought back memories of my playin days cause our goalie and i used to freak out on our D to get outta the way, move your fucking sticks, and if you stand in front of the goali and try to play for him our own team will fuck you up.

    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0.0/5 (0 votes cast)
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
  • LT73

    @ Charlie

    No shit huh? Blake is a feisty little dude. The truth is, Blake’s growing on me. I realize people think he’s problematic in the dressing room, but the guy is a fierce competitor and does not like to lose.

    A little story for ya…

    I myself played on a losing team for the last few years (I play competitive Volleyball). It gets really frustrating when the guys around you aren’t up to the task. Midway through my second season, one of my teammates pulled me aside and berated me for my body language (on bad plays). Sadly, he was right. I had to become a better teammate. I think we saw a little of that with Jason Blake last season. And I think we’re seeing him become a better teammate (as I did myself the following season).

    Competitive sports can force us to learn a lot about ourselves.

    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0.0/5 (0 votes cast)
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)