Leafs and Rangers Preview

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The Rangers are riding a 4 game win streak, the Leafs are not. The Rangers have a goal differential of +8 in their last 4 games, the Leafs have a goal differential of -6 in their last 3 games. The Rangers are 5th in the league on the PK (88%), while the Leafs are last (53.8%). The Rangers are 4th in the league for goals against per game (2.00). The Leafs are tied in last place with Florida at 4.25.

Other noteworthy stats on the Leafs are as follows:

When the Leafs score first, they lose. They share this quality with Anaheim, Florida, Tampa Bay, Detroit, Minnesota and the Islanders.

When the Leafs let in the first goal, they also lose. Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Washington, Carolina and Los Angeles also share this unique stat as well as 7 other clubs.

Toronto is 13th in the league for average shots on net per game (31.0) and have yet to find a win.

Only one other team in the league has yet to find a win this season – the Islanders.

The Leafs also have a points percentage of 0.125, while the Islanders have a points percentage og 0.500 as they have lost all three of their games this season in overtime – better known as “games with hope”.

The Rangers, on the other hand, have a points percentage of 0.800, tied for second in the league, right behind the Sabres (0.833) who are 2-0-1 this season.

In other words, tonight marks a game between the last placed team in the league against the first placed team in the league. Oddly, tonight’s team points in the standings could prove to be the final score: NYR 8 TOR 1.

Toskala gets the start tonight, Stalberg is likely to not receive clearance for tonight’s game, but could be in the lineup tomorrow night against the Avalanche. Jeff Finger stays in for Garnet Exelby.

It is also expected that Luke Schenn will continue to play alongside Ian White. The pairing has become the Leafs most reliable duo since the start of the year. They are collectively a +4. Luke Schenn had been a minus player on the year alongside Beauchemin. Together, in their first three games, Schenn and Beauchemin were a collective -7. Once the coaching staff decided to move Schenn alongside White, Schenn became an Even player in just one game.

Despite a year of poor production from the Leafs team, Ian White has certainly been a standout and pleasant surprise. It’s understandable how Brian Burke believes he is worth more than the 2nd round pick teams have offered for him. At this rate, White is the only untradeable asset the Leafs have. A bright spot in a very shady corner.

It will be interesting to see how the Leafs come out this evening with Gaborik finding the hot stick, and Toskala going 3-0-1 against the Rangers last season. Though all signs point to another Leafs loss – 5 losses to start a year will be a team record – the Leafs will eventually come alive this season, and tonight could very well be the beginning.

Micheal A. Aldred

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  • luke

    @ Honest Hockey,
    Last night’s game was a point to you, sir. Stajan was invisible.

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  • B Leaf

    Look guys, here is the problem.
    It is not Ron Wilson, it is not Vesa, it is not even the players. Yes all have played a part in why the Leafs are so terrible. But the real problem is Brian Burke. Where is he these days?
    Burke stepped into a fan base that was more than happy to take a slow build approach to this team. Building through the draft is the way to build a winner. Obviously adding college and Eurpean free agents is good as well. Even free agents can be added at the right time. But one thing a rebuilding team should never ever do is trade it’s first round pick. Not one and especially not two unless you are getting a top five forward in the league. Phil Kessel is not on the top 50 players. I was strongly against this trade on the basis of risk versus reward. The risk far out weighed the reward. The risks were not hard to see. For example Las Vegas had the Leafs pegged to finish 27th in the league (looks like they over estimated). I remember posting comments here and everyone was like no way are the Leafs a bottom five pick. Well it’s OK for fans to think that way, but it’s not OK for a GM to think that way. While it was a colossol error to trade one first rounder, it was beyond comprehension to give up two plus a second.
    By making the Kessel deal Burke put undo pressure on his coach and his players. He way overestimated his team. Remember last years team was lead by Antropov, Moore, Kubina and Van Ryn and they are all gone. In fact if you look at Burkes moves one would have to wonder if he intentionally was trying to screw the Leafs on behalf of the NHL. We know how much they hate us. The unwarranted suspensions, fines, and bad calls just keep coming.
    Leaf Nation it is going to be a long, long couple of years. The reffing is going to be brutal because we have no first rounders.
    The best move the Leafs could make is fire Burke and Nonis. Let Fletcher run things until a good GM becomes available. What a freakin mess!

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  • Edward Flannery

    yep those would be the ones. Aside from obvious statements like Toskala sucks everything else is your opinion and subjective. Also your logic is flawed, i cant figure out what you want. First you say get rid of all these players and get something better for them. You want us to get better by replacing Kaberle, Stajan, our D, our Coach, our newest player, and our goaltending, and then somehow draft players for succes? Whats happening is your right in the middle of what you want and your pissed off about it. All these young players coming up that have so much potential, yeah we got those through signings and drafting. We are re-building slowly and methodically, thats why we are losing. We have to wait for our young talent.
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    Its amazing really to see, you are both a person calling for a quick fix by changing and trading pretty much everything, yet your also a take it slow draft well guy? you dont know what you want so why am i supposed to listen to your illogical opinions?

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  • ingy56

    Toskala’s “injuries”, a bruised ego and third degree burns on the back of his neck from excessive goal light exposure.

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  • Edward Flannery

    that was @ paso

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  • Peeler

    B leaf, wow, smoke another one buddy. Are you brain dead or zombie like.

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  • Jordan

    FUCKKKKKKKKK YAaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA hahaahha I just got up and screamed in classw when I read that.

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  • Charlie

    @ B Leaf

    And the year before that we were “lead” by Sundin and finished 11′th in the league in scoring. Everyone questiopned how we would score without Sundin and guess what…. not only did we but we improved on it and ended up 10′th. So I’m not too worried about losing Antropov, Moore, Kubina… Van Ryn by the way is still a Leaf.
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    As people have pointed out, nobody will know how the trade was for the next 2 – 4 years when the picks we gave up join the NHL and start producing. Then we can compare. So it is extremely premature to judge that.

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  • Charlie

    @ ingy56

    Damn, there are some funny posts this morning.

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  • Edward Flannery

    @borjefan4ever
    yeah i can agree with most of that. Your right about the kids and the energy they brought in the pre-season. I dont knwo if they are working on Blake but i sure as shit hope they are, cause as you said they do need him to shoot more, and shoot from better angles. He loves firing it from bottom of the circle which only works the way we saw last night.
    Your right i dont think it would hurt any of the players to watch a game, i think thats coming. I like you would like to see more production out of the power play points i think RW is also hence him trying anything he can. Hes gotta look like hes trying new methods cause everything is failing and if it doesnt look like he is making at leats some effort to modify the scoring the media around here would eat him off a spit.

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  • paso

    @edward-
    -i was vilified by a blogger on this site for saying toskala is brutal before the season started-so how obvious was it?
    -what has kaberle helped us win?
    -we gave up 2 1sts and a 2nd for a one-dimensional player, when we are nowhere near winning anything, whom the Bruins had 4th on their depth chart in terms of players they must sign
    -i am on record as saying i would be more than happy to see the team lose with youth, build organizational depth and draft in the top ten for the next two years
    -i am also on record saying BB is in tough-a lot of the dead weight he didnt sign/draft. that said I am absolutely anti the build on the fly mentality-we’ve tried that it doesnt work we’ve seen this movie before
    -when you dont trade kaberle, you turn down a 2nd for white, you trade for kessel, you sign komisarek who was run out of habtown for exactly the kind of play you’re seeing now and you state that you’re a playoff team,you say stajan and poni are top 6, you should be judged accordingly.
    -BB sold the hype-now he has to somehow buy it back and sell reality

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  • lilgrnmen17

    newsflash: paso claims to have 20/20 hindsight; reports unconfirmed.

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  • borjefan4ever

    @Edward Flannery

    fact/logic says the team suck right now
    fact/logic/video history – says that both BB and RW said they wouldn’t be afraid to “motivate” players – BB specifically said he wasn’t afraid to put a major contract in the minors.
    later fact/logic – has RW saying the young players haven’t shown enough? I wish our media would be intelligent and diligent enough to ask the simply question – what would be enough ‘Ronny’?
    later/fact – RW plays Stalberg with Stajan & Blake – when Stalberg had success (in the preseason) playing with a certain profile of player – WHICH WERE NOT UNIMAGINATIVE STIFFS like Blake and Stajan.
    recent/fact – Stempniak, love him or hate him is not a firstline player- will never be a first line player and has never been a first line player. While he may work hard (at times)… see previous sentence.
    recent/fact – Stajan, love him or hate him is not a firstline player – willl never be a first line player and has never been a first line player. While he may work hard (at times) and win some faceoffs … see prevous sentence
    lonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng know fact- Jason Blake is a stiff. Unfortunately his parents wasted a lot of money on skating lessons and coaches all along the way made excuses for him ’cause once every ten games he skate outside around a defensemen and score on a three foot shot. He’s a perimeter player – who as we saw last night ‘takes stpuid penalites’ while trying to be tough and stir it up – boring and largely ineffective. And when can you say you last saw him make a good clean pass? So Stalberg’s supposed to succeed playing with a stiff like this guy?

    And it is not necessarily a case of replacing all these guys. When players are out of their comfort zone they don’t play well… so it is safe to say most of the Leafs are currently being miss-cast… and who’s making the line-up? who’s deciding on the defense pairings? who’s putting players on the PK and PP?

    With a team that is largely the same as last year, and what could be argued (on paper at least) a better group of defenders – this team has a hugely worse record after the first few games, still can’t kill penalities (although they are better at taking them).

    GM gets better defenders (on paper)
    GM gets possibly better goaltender (yet to be proven)
    GM gets a bunch of younger players with promise (shown to greater or lesser degrees in the pre-season)
    Coach plays same/similar style
    Coach choses underpreforming vets over ‘unproven’ younger players
    Coach screws up lines that actually worked last year
    same Coach who benched Ian White last year
    same Coach runs away from media scrum after loss in New York – maybe coach needs to be tougher, and actually take some responsibility for his poor decisions.
    same Coach needs to be called out by his players – the first player who does this in the right way should be the captain in my opinion.

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  • Edward Flannery

    @paso
    “BB sold the hype-now he has to somehow buy it back and sell reality”
    I like that line, just wanted to let ya know i didnt jump threads before letting you at least rebuttle. I get what your saying, next thread is up and should be a fun one to debate.

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  • paso

    @lilgrnmen-anyone who knows my posts knows thats the case…and btw there is absolutely no satisfaction as a long-suffering leaf fan for those assertions to be correct. I would much rather RW be in line for the jack adams,wallin for the selke, toskala for the vezina, komisarek for the norris and this team 5-0.

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  • Big T

    First off….we can complain about RW and BB all we want….but they are not going anywhere (this year).
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    So what can we do? If I was BB/RW this is what I would do:
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    1) Wait until Gustavsson is healthy….bring MacDonald back through waivers and pray he makes it through. Then send Toskala to the minors and have him split games with Reimer. Hopefully later on in the year you can get a 4th rounder for him (maybe).
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    2) Try to trade him for anything…..if not (likely)….send Blake to the Minors….nuff said.
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    3A) Send Mayers or Wallin or Primeau (or 2 of the 3) to the minors.
    3B) Send Orr or Rosehill(likely) to the minors.
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    4) Trade Grabovski (a 2nd would be fine). The guy is not good at all for faceoffs or defensive coverage. He is too small. If you cannot trade him….then RW put him on the wings instead.
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    5) Call up Bozak, Hanson, Tlusty and MacDonald (see # 1)
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    6) At the deadline trade Ponikerovsky, Stajan, Stempniak, Mayers, Primeau, Exelby, Blake (if you can), Toskala (if you can)…..take any pick(s) a team is willing to offer.
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    Put out this roster:
    Ponikerovsky – Stajan – Kessel (Grabovski until Kessel is back)
    Hagman – Bozak – Stalberg
    Wallin/Primeau/Mayers (whoever is left) – Mitchell – Hanson
    Tlusty – Stempniak – Kulemin
    Orr

    Kaberle – Beauchemin
    Schenn – White
    Komisarek – Finger
    Exelby

    Gustavsson
    MacDonald

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  • ingy56

    @BigT: I would definitely put Gustavsson in for a good healthy run of games once he is healthy, however I would doubt that they will send Toskala down unless he is rehabbing an injury. Blake, on the other hand is a premier candidate to be sent down, ridiculous contract (not Blake’s fault), perimiter player, and takes stupid penalties, so on that point I agree. Jamal Mayers is another candidate to be sent down, they have Jay Rosehill already on the roster who is younger, faster, cheaper, and more effective than Mayers. Wallin and Primeau stay and rotate in and out of the lineup for now.Colton Orr is going nowhere, in fact he should play more. If you could trade Grabovski for a skill player with size, I would do it in a minute, but it’s not going to happen. He is one of the few offensive threats on the roster right now, despite his flaws. If he’s too small at center, why is he going to be better on the wing? Jiri Tlusty is not now, or ever will be the answer. He is looking like a career AHL’er at this point. The best thing they can do with Tlusty is to leave him in the AHL and hope a GM takes a flyer on him as a “change of scenery” player. The more exposure he gets in the NHL, the less value he has as a trade candidate. As for the trade deadline, every player you suggest moving is either a UFA or an RFA at the end of the season. Teams looking to pick up players like that are intent on making a playoff run and realistically, are any of these players considered key pickups by teams looking to advance in the playoffs? The only ones I can possibly think of are Stajan, Exelby and Primeau, perhaps Toskala if a team has an injury. None would fetch a decent return, maybe 3rd’s and 4th rounders at best. Unfortunately, the best hope for this collection is to cut some of the dead weight (Blake Mayers) and hope the young players and the new defensmen start to gel and play some kind of system. For a self-appopinted “genius” defensive system coach, Wilson is doing a miserable job of getting through to his players. Last season he got a free pass because of the lack of talent, but with the additions to the team on defense, all of which would have gotten his seal of approval before signing, Wilson has done a terrible job, and continues to throw his players under the bus without acknowledging his own shortcomings. This act will wear thin quickly, if it hasn’t already.

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  • lonsmos2

    I agree for a supposed defensive genius his time with us has been brutal, last on PK and last on Goals Against although I out most of that on our tenders, however the point is his system sucks and this whole idea of playing D on their opposite sides to a=what they normally play is just stupid and is not working. I would still rather see Kaberle with Beauchemin on regular shifts and Komi with Finger and Schenn with White. If Exelby plays tonight move him to wing for some shifts but other than that make sure he only gets out against the other teams worst players as he is brutal always out of position na dconsistantly gives the puck away.

    I could never understand a PK which relys on collapsing the 4 man box into the goaltender, christ Toskala was so short how was he supposed to see anything (not that that would have mattered), pasive just isn’t working, be flexible and change thuings up if it doesn’t work. And finally why is Acton still here after Quinn and Maurice got canned?

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