Feeling Sluggish? Grab Some Horton’s!

by on October 18, 2009 in Uncategorized - 575 Comments

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Seven games into the season might still be too early to panic, but it’s becoming quite clear that we’re inching quickly towards the button. The Sun is reporting that Brian Burke has beeen making calls around the league in search for another goal scoring forward. In the same article, the Sun also mentions that Florida has begun preliminary talks in exploring trade possibilities for young power forward Nathan Horton, who has thus far struggled out of the gate. Is there a possible fit here?

After last night’s one goal effort, the Maple Leafs now sit at a grand total of 14 goals scored in 7 games played for a pitiful 2 goals per game average, less than half of what they’ve given up in their own net. The Leafs have an all-around need for toughness, physicality and goal scoring ability and upon first glance, it certainly seems like Nathan Horton would address a lot of those needs. The addition of such an impact player may be what the Leafs need to get them going.

Horton is the former 3rd overall pick in the loaded 2003 NHL Entry Draft, who has been perennially pegged as a breakout candidate in fantasy pools. He’s had seasons of 28, 31, and 27 goals already under his belt, but has yet to take that step to become the truly dominant 40 goal power forward many feel he has the potential to be. So far this year, he’s only managed a meager 2 goals in 6 games played.

With only arguably two natural right wingers (Stempniak and Mayers) on the roster, Horton would be a nice fit in the Leafs’ lineup on the top line this season, and would complete a formidable trio with Kadri and Kessel for years to come. The fit becomes even more interesting when you consider the general lack of size from the Leafs’ young forward corps with names such as Bozak, Grabovski, Kadri, and Kessel. The team has lacked a player who can park himself in front of the net, particularly on the powerplay, and right now Matt Stajan isn’t really cutting it at that role. The bonus is that the 24 year old Horton is also signed through 2012-2013 at a reasonable $4 million cap hit.

Not surprisingly, the Panthers are likely to ask for a significant bounty if they were to part with Horton, especially considering the fact they’ve had their own goal scoring woes with just 13 so far on the season. The question then becomes: do the Leafs have enough assets to get it done? Assuming that Schenn, Kadri and Kessel are untouchable, that leaves very little for Burke to package together. As a recent free agent signing, it would not look particularly well on the Leafs to move Bozak either. Without any high picks at their disposal, that leaves players such as Tlusty, Stefanovich, Kulemin, Stajan, and Grabovski as the only potential assets.

Florida might be intrigued at the notion of reuniting Kaberle with McCabe, but it’s unlikely the Leafs would ask Tomas to waive his NTC and it appears that this current lineup couldn’t survive without Kaberle’s puck skills anyways. What would you think of a package starting perhaps with Grabovski and Kulemin? Likely not enough because the bidding is surely going to go very high if the Panthers do ultimately decide to make their promising young power forward available. Is there a way to bring Nathan Horton up north?

In other news, just to throw some more fuel onto the rumor fires, there were several scouts from the Edmonton Oilers and Minnesota Wild at the Toronto Marlies game on Saturday afternoon. Hmm….

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  • Almo89

    @ Glimpus

    even jason blake scored 40 goals before coming to toronto. if you dont have players that can can play both ends of the rink it doesnt matter how much POTENTIAL kessel has. im sure a lottery pick has a lot of POTENTIAL too.

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  • Charlie

    @ Glimpus

    I remember that Coach’s Corner well…. That’s where he coined his nickname I think- Ponikahonsky, Pocahonsky…. I don’t rememeber how he said it.

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  • IBleaf

    @charlie- this is why ive been bitching about why we got rid of Antropov and everyone on here was saying poni’s better than him. Antro was are best player most physical player, same with kubina. Antro is still better than any player we have and kubina’s better than any defencemen we have. Seems how we got worse in those 2 positions that may be why were sucking right now.

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  • Jordan

    @neverlosehope
    In a perfect world, and everything went good I would like to see:
    Marleau-Kadri-Kessel
    Stalberg-Bozak-Hagman
    Stajan-Mitchell-Hanson
    Orr-Primeau-Rosehill
    ———————-
    Komisarek-Kaberle
    Beauchemin-Schenn
    White-Gunnersson
    Blaker-Exelby
    ————
    JSG-(unless Gustavsson is a legit #1)
    Gustavsson
    —————–
    There’s a lot of “ifs” and “maybes” but it would be cool to see something like that, and I think its possible. That leaves out Grabovski, Finger, Blake, and Toskala which would save a lot of money if it was possible

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  • Jordan

    @Glimpus
    I just gave up on the Kessel deal. In a few years people will love this trade. We still won the trade and Boston made a big mistake. Ask any real Boston fan and they will tell you that

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  • gravyface

    @Jordan: I like that line-up, although I’d have Stajan centering on the 3rd line.

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  • whitey7

    Kubi is ripping it up in Atlanta. In 5 games he has 4 assists and is a +3.
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    Antropov has 4 assists as well and is +2

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  • bryru

    why don’t we include our first round pick next year in a deal for horton? o riight we can’t.. well maybe the year aft…o crap don’t have that pick either. Make no mistake people, Brian Burke is not running this team. Peddie is, and he’s clearly got one thing in mind, make the playoffs now. The teachers pension fund must be starving without having any playoff revenue for so many years. The kessel deal was a classic example of the Leafs sacrificing their future for the present, just to add a few million dollars more to the bottom line through playoff revenue.

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  • Glimpus

    OK, first off, only 25 percent of first rounders make the NHL. Secondly, Kessel would’ve scored 40 goals last year if he didn’t get mono, AND, he’s a PPG performer in both playoff runs he’s been in.

    Thirdly, trading for a 21-22 year old who has already proven he has an elite shot and can play and perform in the NHL is NOT sacrificing the future. He is a BIG part of “THE FUTURE”. This guy will make a HUGE difference for our team when he gets going, especially on the PP.

    Give the kid some games before you go writing off this trade. On top of that, it’s still October. The standings change A LOT during the year. I’m not planning the parade, believe me I know this team has a LONG way to go but give Burke some time before crapping all over his ideas and moves before you even know what impact they will have on the team.

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  • bryru

    all these wonderful things Kessel does, and yet Boston still decided he wasn’t worth the money. Also i know the impact that bringin in Mike Komisarek has had on the team, the idiot can’t stop himself from taking dumb penalties at the worst time and singe handedly cost us the first game of the year that sent us on this losing streak. Interesting the leafs have matched their worst start in franchise history, the last time they did this was in 1991 when the leafs also did not have a first round pick.. they traded it away to the devils, and the devils drafted some guy named scott neidermayer..

    there have been several posts about burke’s ability to negotiate with free agents and all the cap room we will have next year, but how did his negotiations go with Camaleri this off season? Are we really that confident burke can convince free agents to sign here, especially if the team continues to slide?

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  • Glimpus

    bryru, Komisarek has calmed down a lot with the bad penalties. If you’ve been watching the games, the team has slowly started to play better defensively and I don’t see nearly as many bad or risky plays as before. That includes penalty prone plays.

    Yes, the Leafs could end up regretting the Kessel deal. But at the same time, Boston could regret it, and it appears they are missing Kessels production already.

    As long as they Leafs can stay out of the top 3 picks this year (setting the bar high, I know) they probably win the trade. That is my opinion.

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  • Charlie

    @ bryru

    Cammalleri said he wanted to sign with Montreal and that he wanted to play with Gomez.
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    The last thing you can possibly question is Burke pulling in free agents. Toronto used to be on the bottom of lists for free agents, and this year we snagged quite a few, including the college guys and Monster. Quite impressive and quite flattering for the franchise.

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  • gbo98

    people who keep saying the kessel trade sacrificed our future and our rebuilding need to pay attention to what we got… a 21 kid, with loads of talent, who was a 1st rnd pick in 2006 and has scored 36 goals and will only get better.. be thankful that we have him. What Boston will get with our 2 1st rounders in 2010/2011 won’t come close to kessel’s value. Sit back and relax and focus on the other more pressing concerns…

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  • bryru

    @ charlie

    in one breath you say a free agent (cammo) wanted to sign with another team (montreal) but then say toronto is no longer on the bottom of lists for free agents? interesting.. i rememeber not that long ago when free agents such as joseph, belfour, niewendyk and roberts were signed, much more notable than komisarek, although beauchemin was a good signing. And why can’t i question Burke? It’s that type of silent acceptance which makes leafs fans the joke of the league.. games keep selling out, and the leafs keep losing. Although free agents not wanting to sign in Toronto is probably more a reflection of the team being terrible and some guys not wanting to deal with the pressure of the market so it is probably not Burke’s fault. I just feel that signing komisarek and the kessel trade were missteps made most likely to appease the cries of peddie for some playoff revenue.

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  • bryru

    @gbo98

    why won’t boston get something as good as kessel with our picks? They were the ones that drafted kessel…their scouting is obviously pretty good. I mean certainly there is a chance they wont get someone as good, but you can’t say it for certain. This trade is going to define Burke’s tenure with the leafs, if kessel continues to blossom he loooks great, especially if whoever boston chooses doesnt really pan out. but if kessel faulters and the picks turn out to be legitimate nhlers, it could be seen as one of the worst trades in leaf history.

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  • Charlie

    I didn’t say not to question him literally, I said the last thing is free agents. Look, I don’t know how hard Burke went after Cammy, but I do know when interviewed he said he wanted to play for Montreal and he wanted to play with Gomez. I also know that 25 other teams chased Bozak and he chose Toronto. I also know that a whole bunch of teams chased Monster and he chose Toronto. I also know a few teams were chasing Hanson and he chose Toronto. I also know that Komisarek was offered a bit less money to stay in Montreal, more money to go elsewhere and he chose Toronto. I also know Beauchemin signed for what was said at the time to be a great deal and that was in Toronto. Not too long ago we didn’t get good free agents that were sought after. Jason Blake was our big signing. Brunnstrom didn’t want to sign here. It’s not a guarantee that every free agent is coming here, but you can’t argue with the fact that Burke has made this team that much more enticing and desirable for free agents. Although this season so far is taking a bit shit on that.

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  • Charlie

    @ bryru

    Why did their scouting have to be great to pick Kessel? He went fifth overall. Not exactly a late round gem.

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  • bryru

    @ charlie- i thought you meant to not question burke at all.. my mistake. also, you are correct kessel was 5th overall not a late round gem, but with the the hole the team has dug thus far there is a very good chance that is where the bruins will be picking again. This adds even more pressue because the worse the leafs finish, the worse the trade begins to look. I just dont believe the team is as good as it was hyped up to be. Of course we all hope the team can turn things around, but the longer this losing streak continues the more of a cancer on the team it becomes.

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  • Charlie

    The season definitely is shot as far as the playoffs are concerned. The team was not only hyped, but deserved the hype in the pre-season. Case in point, we were all scared MacDonald would be claimed if he was brought up because of how well he played in the pre-season, now that he has played a couple of regular season games, I don’t think anyone would think twice that he’ll get claimed.
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    As for the Kessel trade, it is going to take 3-5 years to determine who won that trade. It will take until the picks Boston made are full time NHLers and to see how well Kessel produces.

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  • webbspinner

    give beauchemin for horton……..even up………..

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  • Charlie

    Done

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