Podcast: StickWork5 & Fadoo

This latest edition of Stick Work with Fab&Kats, features the co-hosts, expanding on the winning means nothing blog in an expanded forum.

Fab and I pick our Torontosaurus Rex. Fab goes the conventional route, while I pick a defenseman … It’s an abreviated, yet content-rich edition.

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I’ll be posting at FAN590 and Prime Time Sports personality, Bob McCown’s site Fadoo.ca moving forward in addition to MLHS.

My first post consisted of more point system analysis, looking at how post-expansion increases in tied games precipitated the implementation of overtime in the early 1980′s. It needed tweaking once again and then once again in the late 1990′s, and then fully eliminated with the final implementation of the shootout.

McCown, now blogging on the Hockey News, is a proponent of eliminating shootouts.

This is always a hot topic, and I’ve covered point systems here, and here.

Some quick info:

From expansion in 1967-68 to 1982-83 teams played 60 minutes. Tied games during that span increased from 76 games (17.12%) to 165 at its peak in 1980-81.

Combatting the rise, the NHL introduced overtime in 1983-84, motivating teams to go for the win.

The introduction of overtime decreased the amount of ties to a low of 79 in 1985-86, with 21 NHL teams, dipping to the lowest post-expansion percentage of 9.4%.

The NHL would implement three measures to reduce, then eliminate tied games, with the resultant birth of the loser point.

Overtime in 1983-84

Changes to the point system giving teams a guaranteed point if tied at the end of regulation, and introduction of four-on-four overtime

Implementation of shootouts post lockout.

Expansion in the 1990′s (excluding lockout shortened 1994-95) further increased actual amount of tied games, but remained consistent percentage-wise.

The amount of games entering overtime – banking the guaranteed point – skyrocketed.

In 1983-84, 16.67% of games were tied after 60 minutes and went into overtime. By 1991-92, the percentage had climbed to almost 20, and blowing up to over 26% in 1992-93, only to creep further towards 30% of games by 1998.

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  • Bob is your uncle

    @Edvard: How you doin. Yes, I’ve been looking at that 3 spot as a small possibility for a while. After tonight, we play BOS, BUF and NYI in 8 of the 14 games  before Christmas. Taking a large majority of those points would be big. Boston could be affected by injuries. Buffalo is starting to slip. Maybe they haven’t solved their problems. I think we can beat the Islanders. Just about every goalie we face has ‘all star #’s', so we have to continue to outwork the opposition with a team game. After a win against Buffalo Monday, we need to go into Montreal on Tuesday, and take another, both in regulation. If we get 1 point in Columbus it’s a bonus and we have to stay out of the penalty box. Too much talent. After Boston, we play Atlanta at home. Tough call. Hopefully we get a point. After we play the Islanders at home, and the Bruins on the road, we’re home to Washington. I’m not counting on any points from that one. Ottawa comes in Dec 14 and we have to beat them. Phoenix comes in, ?????. Then we play Buffalo, Boston, Buffalo and the Islanders again before beating Montreal on Dec 26 at home. So it looks like those three teams are a big key to our season. There, that was easy. And so comforting too.

  • Edward Flannery

    @Bob
    i am well thank-you, i wish the quote function was working id re-post that bitch every 30 minutes.  We are coming up on a very crucial stretch in our schedule, if we do really well like you said over these next few games we can almost eliminate our treacherous start.  We all knew we werent gonna run away with this battle but we all wanted to be a part of it, i think now we are going to at least join the battle and well seee how we do.
    I have so much optimism going forward, we cant control what they do, its like an airplane sometimes its scary as shit and you have no idea whats going on but at some point you gotta look out that window and say “its out my hands, gotta leave this one too the people whose job it is.  Lets enjoy this flight”.
    Our start of the season was arguably harder than others, teams will enter slumps.  I cant really recall looking at the standings on TSN last year and NOT seeign a team that had a Lost 5 next to there name.   

  • Blue Max

    Alcohol was not a factor does not mean drugs weren’t! No big loss either way.
    I’d absolutely hate to see a poor/middle class family man hurt, but I couldn’t care if the rich shit all die at once. They have enjoyed their meaningless lives so far anyway.

  • Komi

    Eat that CNN TMZ has a pic of the missing fire hydrant LMAO
     
    http://www.tmz.com/

  • LeafsRyan.

    If we don’t make up ground in the next 15 games and by this I mean something like a (8-4-3) record, we are simply done, no excuses. After christmas there is a clear angle of the playoff team’s and the bottom teams. We need to get our selves in the 7th to 12th seed somehow. If we are 15-20 points out of a playoff spot at christmas it is virtually  impossible to get back in the top 8, and our season is a wash.

  • Edward Flannery

    HEYY THAT GUYS A COMMIE!!! (points at bluemax)
    .
    *no offence Komi i meant red army dont look me in the eyes commie. 

  • Blue Max

    ““my fine finnneeee ass wife and i were a little rambunctious that morning and she decided to show her love for me in otherrr fashions, her neck injuries should be healed by the end of the week.  This interview is over………no its over TED”
    -Tiger”
    .
    You forgot about the part where they had to wait for the laxative to take effect in order to perform the weenie re-attachment process.

  • Blue Max

    “HEYY THAT GUYS A COMMIE!!! (points at bluemax)”
    .
    ROFL! I’m actually what you would call “Extreme Right Wing!

  • Bob is your uncle

    @Edward:  “its out my hands, gotta leave this one too the people whose job it is.  Lets enjoy this flight”.
    I’ve done that one too. 

  • Edward Flannery

    @my boy blue
    hahah, extreme right wing is a funny statement, if you ever read fark.com youll get the next joke.  You know who else was a “extreme right wing”? hahaha implying Hitler.
    .
    wow didnt think i could somehow work a hitler joke into a mapleleaf website but here we are. 
    Blue are you in Ontario? 

  • TuckerThomas

    @ 2 mins
    TMZ and Entertainment Tonight are banned in my home.  No way in hell are my kids going to be exposed to all the bullshit they cover.  It really makes me wonder about the IQ’s of most North Americans and why people care so much about what the stars are doing.
    I have 5 kids with my 6th on the way to feed and a trip to the grocery store is painful enough without having the stupid bitch ahead of me at the checkout wasting my time while she gawks at the tabloids.   Seriously it makes me feel nauseous.
    Who the fuck cares?  I guess most do!

  • B Gordon

    I for one hate the point system in any format, get rid of it and get rid of the shootout. Keep the overtime though.

    I’d like to see the teams ranked by wins. If the game ends in a tie after overtime then each team would be credited with a tie but it would have no point value attached to it, if a team has the same number of wins in the standings as another team, then the one with the most ties (least losses) takes precedent in the standings.

    This system would be similar in effect as the three-point system, but would ensure that teams are playing for the win for the full 60 minutes plus OT. Look at the standings in any year and you would seethis system would have very little impact in the rankings but it,s effect on the style of game on the ice would be significant. No more hanging on for a tie. No more playing it safe for the last 10 minutes of regulation to secure the single point.

    Most importantly it corrects the injustice of a team not making the playoffs because a team with less wins had more points simply by not losing as many in regulation.

    2008–09 NHL season : no effect on who qualified
    2007–08 NHL season  : Carolina won 43 games, Boston won 41. Boston qualifies, Carolina is eliminated. Is that fair?
    2006–07 NHL season : Montreal wins 42, NYI win 40. NYI qualify, Montreal misses.
    2005–06 NHL season : no effect on who qualified

    Points systems promote defensive style hockey, if you have to win your going to take more chances, you won’t sit on a tie. A wins based system will promote a better game on the ice and reward teams for actually winning.

  • Edward Flannery

    Gents im leaving work, i think tonight ill take a night to watch the game privatly and log in with the boys on here.
    It always nic ebeing reminded what exact play Stajan “sucked dick” on, or how pathetic Blake is, youd think some of the people on here when they are having sexy time with different girls they give up half way through cause shes not living up to their expectations in the first 3 minutes!! (hahaha i used three minutes because i was reffering to other people on this site, not my coitus stamina, when if compared to a 3 minute half is nowhere near approaching  that duration haha  :) )
    Enjoy the day Lads!!

  • Bob is your uncle

     
    TuckerThomas Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    @ 2 mins
    “TMZ and Entertainment Tonight are banned in my home.  No way in hell are my kids going to be exposed to all the bullshit they cover.  It really makes me wonder about the IQ’s of most North Americans and why people care so much about what the stars are doing.”
    -TT, how can you stand missing all those rumours that you don’t give a blank about.

  • Blue Max

    @Edward Flannery
    “Blue are you in Ontario?” 
    .
    Well…obviously!  Though I thought it has more to do with common sense, than Hitler, being on the far right of all things. Try being anything else when you hear the gangsters responsible for starting a shootout that killed an innocent girl on Boxing day a few years ago go free just recently.
    Anyway, this a place for all Leafs, and not politics. I apologize if I got out of line.

  • TuckerThomas

    @ Blue Max
    “ROFL! I’m actually what you would call “Extreme Right Wing!”
    .
    OMG!  Stop comparing yourself to Kessel.

  • Blue Max

    Lol TT! Sense of humour always indicates higher intelligence.

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