Trade Deadline Notes
The Toronto Star provides us with a couple interesting tidbits about potential trade talks leading up to the deadline:
- Ponikarovsky continues to be heavily linked to Pittsburgh. Previously, we learned from CBC’s Hotstove that one team had offered the Leafs a 2nd round draft pick along with a prospect, which clearly was not enough for Burke to bite. He is likely holding out for a more prominent prospect than the one that was initially offered.
- Several key Maple Leaf front office members and scouting staff watched the Marlies – Bears game at Ricoh on Wednesday night. With the Hershey Bears being the Capitals’ AHL affiliate, there is certainly speculation that there may be some serious trade talks happening between the two clubs. The Capitals are far and away the league’s highest scoring team, so they may be more interested in either a defensive forward or a reliable stay-at-home defenseman. However, there is also the possibility that the Leafs’ staff may have just taken advantage of the time off to evaluate which Marlies players could be included in trades or be potential NHL call-ups to fill out the roster after the deadline.
February 28th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Oh its at midnight tonight, so no deals today, tomorrow.
February 28th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
@ AussieLeaf:
Honestly, no deals should be made with the New York Rangers unless we are clearly winning the deal. Even giving them Kaberle is too risky. Sather is so crafty, I honestly think he has magic powers that enable him to metaphorically rape other GMs in trades.
I think you all need to remember what Burke has said his priority is, and that is finding a “puck-distributing center for the top line”. At no point has Burke ever said he intends to acquire a bunch of picks and prospects. The only time he’s addressed the prospects is when he talks about getting some picks to keep his scouting staff busy. He’s not talking about high-end draft picks though, he’s talking about the sort of picks he’ll get back for Ponikarovsky, Stempniak, Exelby, Primeau, and salary dump trades; 2nds through 5ths.
Basically, the only way Kaberle is getting dealt for prospects and picks is if Burke knows he can then swap those for a top line center in the summer. For example, perhaps Holmgren has told him he will come to the table on Carter if the team falls out of the playoffs in the first round in disappointing fashion. Obviously, in such a scenario, Burke would have asked for a price-range, and is looking to acquire the necessary assets.
While Kreider, and a 1st would be nice, I doubt Burke cares. Everything he has done so far has been about the here and now, and landing big names. Just like he didn’t deal off Stajan, White and Hagman for 2nds and 4ths like you all thought, he won’t bring in prospects and go with youth on his top line either.
February 28th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
@ Cameron:
That got me thinking….I’m assuming Anaheim isn’t coming to Toronto by the end of the year eh? You can see where I’m going with this….GOD!!! Wouldn’t that be fun?!?!?!
February 28th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
@ Bon Scott was a Leaf fan:
Burke has said multiple times that he needs a list of 10 to consider trading someone with a NTC. He isn’t going to be handcuffed by Kaberle when he can just move him in he summer, you are correct. Also, it’s only the one site that’s reporting the Rangers tidbit. None of the reliable sources (Dreger) have said anything about Kaberle lifting the clause. But rest assured, if he’s lifted the clause, he’s given a list of 10 teams at the least.
February 28th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
@ rockydundas:
I’m not sure I follow.
February 28th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
jnhms wrote:
New people are popping up left right and centre… This has already been discussed, actually if you read some of the comments above, it is still being discussed… I think there are a bunch of teams after Kabby though, there will be a lot more options.
February 28th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
@ Cameron:
I’m thinking Anaheim coming back to Toronto with Tos-a-loss in net! I bet that would wake up the ACC! Or…he’d actually play good for a change!
February 28th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Cameron wrote:
I think Burke has pretty much scoured all his target players. Lets say for argument sake he wants Bobby Ryan who doesnt appear to want to resign with Anaheim for whatever reason. So what Burke would do is talk to Anaheims GM and find out the price, negotiate it and then assemble the parts to complete the trade. Lets say Anaheim wants Grabovski, a top prospect (who we dont have) and whatever else. Then Burkes trading strategy is to acquire the parts he needs to complete that transaction.
It is quite likely Burke/Nonis have a setup trade in the works that is a precursor to something that gets them the player they really want. Sure other parts will be part of it just like Sjostrom and Aulie were part of hte other deal.
February 28th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
@ rockydundas:
Ha, yea, that would be great. No Anaheim game though, sadly. He will be in the league next year though. He will sign a cheap cheap contract and light it up for a solid defensive team. He’d be great in Minnesota if they move Harding out. He’d be good in Ottawa too actually, since they just play Jersey-style trap hockey. He clearly needs a reliable defense in front of him though, and one of those kinds of teams will sign him up and give him a chance to redeem himself.
February 28th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
Cameron wrote:
Thanks for replying – that is what along the lines I was thinking when I read something on this months ago.
Stajan re-signs with Calgary for 16 mill 4 years? 4 mill a year? Wow…the minister of transportation is outraged that someone is overpaying for pylons again…
February 28th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
@ peterbleafs:
Exactly. So while Kaberle might be traded for picks and prospects, that is only the precursor to a bigger deal. We have a pretty solid set of prospects moving up the ranks all together, so adding more right now is kind of redundant. Sure we don’t have the deepest or most skilled prosepct pool, but we need to address the issues on our actual club first, and that’s what Burke is going to do. So the question really becomes, who is Burke targetting to center the top line?
February 28th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
@ Cameron
Can’t see Grabovski (and Stefanovich) with the Rangers but a team like Atlanta or Florida would be interesting. Atlanta and Florida still have the playoffs in mind and desperately need offense. Grabovski to Atlanta for Klingberg or a 2nd round pick or to Florida for Matthias or 2nd round pick.
February 28th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
@ AussieLeaf
Why don’t you see him with the Rangers. They have one of the largest Russian/Euro contingencies in the league – Grachev, Lisin, Anisimov, Gaborik, Prospal, Jokinen – and they’ll probably add Demitra on July 1st. Sather loves those Russian kids. The team is also extremely thin at center whenever someone goes down with injury.
Matthias is a bust. Never heard of Klingberg..
February 28th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
@ Cameron:
Toskala on the Sens? that could be very good news for us! I tried to like him but just couldn’t. Although I like him better than Raycroft. Bad goaltender and a jerk to boot. At least he appeared that way in interviews.
February 28th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
The Olympics reinforced a few key points. Russians tend to play selfishly and as individuals. The Slovakians and Finns are hard working team oriented players. Americans and Canadians have superb talent, emotions and team work ethic.
My guess is Anaheim turns it on bigtime now with Getzlaf, Perry and Niedermeyer really stepping up. Ryan will get traded by Wednesday but they will want two hard working players as replacement.
Grabovski I think is now tarred with the headcase label and so his trade value is just slightly better than Fingers now.
February 28th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
Well Don Cherry says we are going to win today 5-3, let’s see if the old fart still knows what he is talking about.
February 28th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
long_suffering_leaf_fan wrote:
What else is he gonna say! he wouldnt admit USA has a larger population than us for his life!
February 28th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
One hour to go!
Just posted the preview, for those wondering about game thread.
Cheers
GB
February 28th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
@ voodoo_band08:
Sorry I didn’t get back to you sooner, but I wanted to do some things before the game. I don’t know Locke and Sanguinetti well enough, in terms of their complete package(intangibles etc.) to assess your trade with any real ability. But at first glance I’m inclined to think that we could get that return even if we took Kaberle out of our offer and perhaps just add something like Stefanovich to get it done(if Sather knows he can sign Ponikarovski). There are other people here who could give you a better assessment. Keep them coming though. I enjoy looking up the names and learning more.
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:28 am
Yusef…
Gotta say, mighty fine article…
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