What’s Wrong with Kabs?

by on March 31, 2010 in Uncategorized - 90 Comments

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Written by Wook

Unlike many veterans who were forced to pack their bags after many consecutive years of dismal play coupled to lack of passion, people tend to turn a blind eye when it comes to Tomas Kaberle.

Some people believe that Kaberle started playing poorly only after the Olympics. He must be tired right? Maybe he is having a hard time adjusting to all the new players.

Let’s have a closer look at the numbers throughout the entire season.

.. GP G .A .P +/-
1) 77 7 42 49 -16
2) 32 2 29 31 -5
3) 45 5 13 18 -11
4) 24 3 09 12 -5
5) 21 2 04 06 -6
6) 15 1 02 03 -5

Key:
1) Entire season
2) First 32 games of season
3) Last 45 games of season
4) 24 games before the Phaneuf trade
5) 21 games since the Phaneuf trade
6) 15 games since the dawning of the new Leafs

Facts:
1) Kaberle was playing like an elite offensive defenseman until mid-December (still a minus player)
2) In contrary to popular belief, Kaberle has been playing like a below average offensive defenseman since LONG before the olympics (i.e. much greater than half of the season)
3) Kaberle’s production went further down after the acquisition of Phaneuf
4) Kaberle’s production has been laughable as a member of the new squad

As an offensive defenseman, he really has not been very offensive for the majority of the season. He continues to be on the ice when the opposition scores, and he no longer produces at the offensive end.

With the exception of the game against the Rangers (where he scored that offensively gifted goal), Kaberle has not made much tangible contributions during the 9-4-2 stretch (points in just two games) following the trade deadline. Actually, I take that back, he was -9 in those 6 losses. I boldly state that, based on stats alone, had Finger or Exelby replaced Kaberle during those 6 games, we would most likely be outside the lottery position.

It is entirely possible that he will magically turn things around next season when he is in a different uniform.

Maybe he is just tired and getting old. Maybe the overwhelming youth and committed forechecking upfront negates the need for those long stretch passes to score. Maybe other defensemen on the Leafs can make those less frequent stretch passes. Maybe that “A” on his jersey is weighing him down. Maybe he misses his now outcast friends. Maybe Kabby is a sad and depressed man.

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  • Leaf_Maniac

    @ Johnfergusonjr

    Quite possibly, but my buddy called the edge today and won these tix, so not quite sure on all the details yet. But they were tlakin bout smirnoff so im guess thats wut we r drinkin…altho id rather beer…haha

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  • kaz

    You think Exelby would do a better job than Kabby? I’ve seen a lot of Exelby and I assure you, that -8 of Exelby’s would be much higher had he been given more minutes.

    I don’t really understand all the Kaberle hate, put a good group of forwards in front of him and his +- stats will skyrocket (Look at his +- before the lockout). I can’t count how many times a beautiful Kaberle stretch pass went unconverted. If our PP was better Kaberle’s numbers would also improve.

    Look at Beauchamin’s +- numbers, they’re just as bad as Kabby and he doesn’t give the offensive punch him either. Komisarek’s numbers would probably be just as bad or worse if he never went down with injury.

    Also take a look at the 2 seasons after the lockout. We were a respectable team, 9th in both years. The teams collective +- in that 2 year span was -24 while Kaberle was a collective +2. He can play defense, just give him a good group of offenseive guys to pass to.

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  • Nirbo

    I have to say I really, really don’t understand the hate for Mats Sundin, arguably the greatest player to suit up for the Maple Leafs in the modern era.

    One look at the Leafs all-time top 30 scorers will show you the significance of this player. Look at the difference between him and Wendel Clark, no matter what proportional or absolute scoring stat you like. Oh, how about playoffs? Same thing. Gary Roberts? Give me a break.

    Yes, the thing at the end with his (rightfully exercised) NTC and then Vancouver the next year left a bad taste in my mouth, but the backlash is just ridiculous.

    To my mind, it seems there are only a few plausible explanations for arguments about “players like Sundin and Kaberle” and character assassinations of our 13-year captain, acme of class, Olympic Gold Medal winner, and record-book giant:

    1.) The most ridiculous, ADD-inspired “what-have-you-done-for-me-lately” approach to his retirement waffling. Did he really do anything wrong? Would you treat a long-term personal relationship like this?

    2.) Youth. It’s possible that some fans only really know what they have read in our, ahem, quality news reporting about the team. Sundin didn’t win us a cup, nor did we get to trade him for a package including future hall-of-famer Mats Sundin (…) therefore he is crap and Clark, with his -90 Leaf career, is Adonis in the flesh. Did you see Sundin score his 500th to complete a hat trick and win the game in overtime? How about the 99, 00, 01 playoff runs?

    3.) RACISM. I don’t think this one needs much explanation, but to say there is a double standard with regards to Sundin is putting it pretty mildly. If you can name another in the *top-25* of NHL all-time career scoring who is so vilified, I’d love to hear it. Oh, maybe Jaromir Jagr… he’s North American, right?

    If this is interpreted as trolling I do apologize, but the blind Sundin-hate is one of the ugliest and most shameful aspects of our Leafs community in my opinion.

    My main purpose is to solicit alternative explanations or further perspective.

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  • Doc_yqx

    @ Nirbo:

    I Gotta agree…for the life of me,i don’t understand the hate with any player that has worn the Blue/White in the PAST,but especially with Mats Sundin.
    It’s as if the fans blame each player for what’s been wrong with the Leafs for the past 40 years,when they should realize it’s been a MISmanagement Problem all along.
    Sundin bled Blue And White for his entire tenure as #13 !
    If anyone is to blame for the way his career ended in Toronto,
    BLAME JOHN FERGUSON JR. & CLIFF FLETCHER !!
    Bad Contract and PISS POOR handling of a classy person when Fletcher threw Sundin under the bus. Any loyalty that Mats had for the fans and team wasn’t returned in any way,and in the end,I Don’t think Sundin should’ve done Fletcher & Co. Any Favor.
    IF on the other hand,Fletcher had handled the situation properly,I’m sure Sundin would’ve continued to ‘Put The Leafs First’.

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  • ironlungz

    1 Mike Green WSH D 71 18 54 72 34 54 9 0 3 1 192 9.4 25:28 24.6 0.0
    2 Duncan Keith CHI D 75 13 53 66 14 47 3 1 1 0 198 6.6 26:44 29.7 0.0
    3 Dan Boyle SJS D 70 15 40 55 6 70 6 0 3 0 172 8.7 26:14 29.3 0.0
    4 Drew Doughty LAK D 76 15 39 54 18 48 9 0 5 1 133 11.3 25:03 26.3 0.0
    5 Chris Pronger PHI D 76 10 43 53 23 75 5 0 2 0 163 6.1 25:53 31.1 0.0
    6 Tomas Kaberle TOR D 77 7 42 49 -16 24 3 0 1 0 152 4.6 22:27 25.6 0.0

    Theres the top 6 guys in terms of points for Defenceman, Kaberle avgs 22 1/2 well the 5 ahead of him avg at least 2 1/2 mins more per game, And your asking whats wrong with Kaberle?? Are you serious, please tell me your not.

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  • http://admin Alec Brownscombe

    ironlungz wrote:

    1 Mike Green WSH D 71 18 54 72 34 54 9 0 3 1 192 9.4 25:28 24.6 0.0
    2 Duncan Keith CHI D 75 13 53 66 14 47 3 1 1 0 198 6.6 26:44 29.7 0.0
    3 Dan Boyle SJS D 70 15 40 55 6 70 6 0 3 0 172 8.7 26:14 29.3 0.0
    4 Drew Doughty LAK D 76 15 39 54 18 48 9 0 5 1 133 11.3 25:03 26.3 0.0
    5 Chris Pronger PHI D 76 10 43 53 23 75 5 0 2 0 163 6.1 25:53 31.1 0.0
    6 Tomas Kaberle TOR D 77 7 42 49 -16 24 3 0 1 0 152 4.6 22:27 25.6 0.0
    Theres the top 6 guys in terms of points for Defenceman, Kaberle avgs 22 1/2 well the 5 ahead of him avg at least 2 1/2 mins more per game, And your asking whats wrong with Kaberle?? Are you serious, please tell me your not.

    Curious – did you read the blog or just the title?

    Fine and dandy that he recorded a point a game in his first 30-odd appearances. Awfully disturbing is his production has fallen to around 9 points in the same span towards the end of the season.

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  • HHT

    Let’s not re-write history. In a nutshell Sundin was a bum with talent. He floated and got all the credit for the work real players like Belfour, Thomas, Gilmour did. His shining moment came when he returned against Carolina in the playoffs and KILLED the Leafs momentum.

    That is how Sundin should be remembered. He was not a big game player. And no, he never did make anyone better. He was here, punched in and was handed tons of ice time & celebrity, got his points, was highly overpaid, did not lead or create a winning environment by any stretch (in fact, led the entitled overpaid Muskoka gang) – and then punched out shamefully after deceiving and cheating Leaf fans, just so that he could fade into obscurity on the Vancouver Nuckleheads.

    No one will miss him.

    Kabs is his twin on defense.

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  • Schenn

    I like the top two lines for tommorow night but am definetly not impressed with the third line of Caputi – Mitchell – Irwin. Too much youth and not enough experience on that line. I’d move Caputi to the 4th line and Sjostrom up to the wing with Irwin at center and Mitchell at LW.

    Also, Finger doesn’t make $3.5 million to sit on his ass. He still has to be up everyday for practice and still has to keep in shape for the games he does play. Not to mention all the travel and time away from his family.

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  • Schenn

    I also find it hard to believe people here don’t think Horton could be had for Kaberle straight up. If anything Florida should be throwing more into the deal.

    Look what Anaheim got for Chris Pronger last year:

    Philadelphia’s 2010 1st Round Pick, 2009 1st Round Pick, Luca Sbisa, Joffrey Lupul and a conditional 2010 or 2012 3rd Round Pick for Chris Pronger and Ryan Dingle

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