No Loss Un-Nonis’ed

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The news that the Tampa Bay Lightning have Dave Nonis at the top of their shortlist for general manager candidates was perhaps an instance of the inevitable. If Tampa or Nonis deem it not a right fit, we can only expect more of the same from other owners looking to fill vacant general manager positions.

It was reported at the time of Nonis’ signing that a one-year clause was included to assure Nonis’ services belonged to the Leafs for 2009-10 at a minimum. When Nonis’ contractual obligation ends is unclear, but from Joe Nieuwendyk to Steffan Kronwall to Justin Pogge, it’s clear Burke will never step in the way of an employee’s desire to advance professionally.

But not all hope is lost. First, let’s look at what the Leafs have in Nonis, and hopefully what they don’t end up losing.

It’s often unknown exactly what role the assistant general manager plays in a given front office decision by an NHL club. That we hear detail about Nonis’ hand in many of the Leafs’ managerial decisions of the past year tells you he’s doing a lot right. Plus, you only have to shift your attention to the years 2004-2008 to understand Nonis has a number of prudent decisions on his resume as a frontline general manager. The Luongo deal speaks for itself; As Bitter Leaf notes, the choice to match on the Ryan Kesler offer-sheet was knowingly bound to generate some bad press at the time, but Nonis’ apt talent evaluation and long-term thinking continues to shine through today as Kesler goes a point-a-game in the playoffs following a 75-point season and a strong showing for the U.S. Olympic team. His ultimate downfall out West was perhaps his unwillingness to take a gamble at the deadline of 2008 as fans were calling for a major change to improve a struggling offense. There were rumours of an Alexander Edler and a first for Brad Richards deal sitting on the table that Nonis walked away from, deeming the long-term sacrifice wasn’t worth the short-term gain as the Canucks weren’t close enough yet to Stanley Cup contention. One could argue the Canucks are better positioned to compete now and later because of Nonis’ patient eye for the future, but he inevitably became Francesco Aquilini’s fall guy.

Interesting to consider, then, is that Nonis seems very much the ying to Burke’s yang. The pragmatic personality Nonis provides to the front office seems a valuable counterbalance to the at times hot-blooded Burke.  Nonis’ composure is what makes him such a shrewd negotiator and is why Burke entrusted Nonis with taking the wheel during such a pivotal time of year for league management – the opening of unrestricted free agency. While Burke pursued Gustavsson overseas, it was Nonis negotiating and ultimately sealing the contracts of Mike Komisarek, Francois Beauchemin and Colton Orr during opening week. While none could be called steals a season in, all salary figures were pleasantly fair considering the mania of early July, when so many GMs – as we as Leafs fans know too well – can’t help but gamble on long term overpayments. Not to mention the credit Burke often gives to Nonis for negotiations relating to their many college free agent endeavours that have played such a key role in making up ground for lost picks in the Kessel deal, or his role in the Phaneuf blockbuster.

It’s the complete level of trust between Burke and Nonis rooted in their history together from their time united in Vancouver, to Anaheim, to Toronto, and reciprocal personalities that makes the pair a team stronger than it’s individual halves. It’s perhaps also why Leafs fans can hope Nonis will continue on with what he and Burke have started in Toronto.

It may be increasingly rare concept in the world of sport, but loyalty may well win out in the Leafs’ favour here. If someone has an audio or a news link to Nonis calling his job the envy of the league, please share because I remember something to that tune. Nonetheless, the respect between Nonis and Burke is obvious, and there’s little doubt that Nonis is receiving plenty of accreditation from Burke, who often works in a shout out in his press conferences, and to a lesser extent the media.

Additionally, the Leafs may have more than loyalty to lean on here. Put yourself in Nonis’ shoes as an employee and consider how rewarding and fulfilling it can be to find yourself in a respected, influential and presumably well-compensated position within an organization. And it’s not a totally uncommon situation across the hockey world for hockey execs in Nonis’ circumstance to stand pat.

Jim Nill has ridden shot-gun to Ken Holland since 1994. Few would dispute that he’s overseen the most productive and opportunistic scouting staff for over a decade, and would have no problems finding a ship to captain if he so desired.

David McNab is another long-time assistant GM who has been in Anaheim since the club’s inception in ’93, best known for his ability to scour the collegiate system and find hidden talent. He added Andy McDonald, Chris Kunitz, Dustin Penner, and Ryan Shannon to the Duck fold as little-known players out of college.

David Conte has been the brain behind draft-day coups such as Marty Brodeur, Scott Gomez, Patrick Elias and Scott Niedermayer. Comfortable alongside Lamoriello in New Jersey, he serves as the VP of Hockey Operations and Director of Scouting.

Tampa Bay may not prove to be the ideal fit for Nonis as a drafter/builder on a club already armed with a lot of young talent and in need of some immediate upgrades. That’s not to say a better fit won’t come along at some time in the not-too-distant future.

But hopefully, Nonis sees his current position within the Leafs organization as that right fit and continues seeing out the vision he and Burke have devised.

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  • Wook

    Cactus wrote:

    @ Cameron:
    I guess, but he talked up both Gunnarsson and Mikus at the same time, right after spring training, and we all know what happened with Gunnar.

    The training camp will sort out everything, especially the youngsters. If Mikus doesn’t have a good summer and tanks in the camp, it doesn’t matter what BB had said in the past, he will not make the big club.

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  • Tim Horton

    @ Cactus:
    Oh I agree with you that he’s next in line for a call up, he has the same upside as Gunnarson but in my opinion he’s much more raw and behind in development than Gunnar. As for spaces… Nah I’d rather just type long paragraphs and put a strain on peoples eyes. But I’ll make sure to bold everything of importance

    @ kb:
    The NHL seems to discount small players like Mitchell, he is always going to have to fight to make a case for himself. I mean if two players have the same skills and one is 5’8 and the other is 6’3 who do you thinks going to get the call up? Every now and then small players break through, lets just hope Mitchell can be one of them.
    Just to keep ourselves grounded… I know it was of a different time and our organization was ranked among the worst pools of prospects. However in 2006 out of our top 20 prospects 6 of them made it have made it to the NHL as regulars and Tuukka Rask is probably the only successful among them. The others are Ian White, Alex Steen, Carlo Colaiacovo, Kyle Wellwood and John Mitchell… With Highly rated bust such as Robby Earl and possibly Pogge.

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  • http://checkingfrombehind.com danvertising

    Kenny Ryan’s ice-time has nothing to do with it. That’s the price up playing for one of the best junior teams in the league. Ryan isn’t going to develop in one junior season anyways. So he got 3rd and 4th line minutes last year? He will continue to develop over the next couple years in junior, his ice time in his rookie OHL year will mean nothing long term.

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  • http://checkingfrombehind.com danvertising

    This is so far from the original argument you were having with Cameron anyways. But going back to junior last year vs playing in the AHL is hardly a bad thing for Dale Mitchell. Does he have any trade value? Who knows…. I won’t debate that. But just because he didn’t make the Marlies doesn’t mean he’s worthless.

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  • Cameron

    @ Wook:
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    Hmm, very interesting. It must just be catching the games where Carter seems to turn it on when it doesn’t matter. Where did you find those stats? Is there just a column for that on the NHL web pages?
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    @ Cactus
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    We don’t know how it all went down though. Maybe Burke thought he’d be moving Gunnarsson (a guy he didn’t draft but looked to have upside), but ended up moving White when push came to shove.

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  • Cameron

    @ danvertising:
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    He’s pretty much what you would ask of a 3rd round pick. I don’t think his value has deteriorated past where he was drafted. It’s not like every 3rd round pick is out-performing him.

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  • leafslunch

    Alec, you know a title like that deserves an award?

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  • Doorman

    Our bigest weakness is at center and right wing.

    i cant see Bozak and Kadri playing center on our # 1, and 2 lines. I think Bozak will do Ok, next year; learning more as he goes. Kadri on the other hand has a lot to learn. Id say he is 2 years away from being the the # 1 center we are looking for. Burke wants a good start to next season; That being said would you let those 2 guys run your # 1, and 2nd lines? No!
    If Kadri makes the team expect him to play wing and #3 center till he gets his feet wet.
    He could start out the season on the Marlies as well.

    We sure do need a legit center man. Looking at the UFA,s for this year available. I see only 2.
    Marleau, who is making 6,300; And Saku Koivu at 3250.

    I think Marleau will be looking for 7,000 next year; Way too much; IMO.
    Koivu on the other-hand has a lot of appeal. It cost,s us nothing, and he brings skill and experience to our forward position. From which the young guns can learn from.

    As Cameron pointed out, next years ufa,s look much better. Koivu,s contract wont kill us.

    Burke picks up 2 wingers; Who? I have my own thoughts on that. If that gets done I think we are set for next year.

    Burke said: Jul. 1st is our draft day!

    Your thoughts.

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  • kb

    @ danvertising:
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    Mitchell is not worthless, that I agree with. Just that we need to temper the expectations from a 3rd round pick from 3 years ago who is playing a 5th year in junior to “develop”. He is what he is. Probably no better or worse than any other typical 3rd rounder, but far more 3rd rounders never make it than do make it. Prospects only have trade value if a team thinks that they are getting a future NHL’er out of the deal.
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    And yes, you are right, it has gotten off topic. I hope you are right that it didn’t hurt Ryan’s development. Ryan was drafted as a pure sniper, and because of the circumstances and lack of ice time – never got to show it. I don’t know of many 18 year olds who benefit more from receiving less ice time, but maybe he is one of the few.

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  • JMAC

    @ Doorman:

    My guess is burke sings two bottom 6 type wingers…..Armstrong and Williams…say for example….

    A Top-6 potential NHL ready young player is coming to us via Kaberle…Graboski goes in the deal if that player is a center…….

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  • Gilbert

    My buddy’s cousin made this blog the other day its pretty funny kind of a prank http://hockeyindependent.com/blog/duncan_disorderly/15521/

    To top it off NBC thought it was real and made an article about but later took it down http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36860138/

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  • Cameron

    @ Gby:
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    Kadri will spend most of the year with the Leafs next year. There’s no reason for him not to. The only reason he’d be in the AHL would be to get more time to bulk up, as the games are typically on weekends, with long-stretches of off-time. If he can come to camp in good shape, and a little over 190 (hopefully pushing 200), we’d be just fine with him on the roster.
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    To NSH: Paradis, Mikus, 4th in 2011
    To TOR: Blum
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    To PHI: Kaberle
    To TOR: Carter
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    To ANA: Carter
    To TOR: B.Ryan
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    -sign Alexander Frolov, 2 years, 7.5 million (3.75 cap hit)
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    Alexander Frolov / Tyler Bozak / Phil Kessel
    Viktor Stalberg / Nazem Kadri / Bobby Ryan
    Nikolai Kulemin / M. Grabovski / ___UFA____
    ___UFA______ / Chris Hanson / Colton Orr
    (Sjostrom)
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    Dion Phaneuf ‘C’ / Luke Schenn
    Mike Komisarek / Jonathan Blum
    Carl Gunnarsson / Francois Beauchemin
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    Jonas Gustavsson / J.S. Giguere

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  • Gby

    Also,
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    Does anybody see any way that the Leafs could deal for David Steckel of Washington? I think this is the kind of player Burkie would covet as a 4th line center. Killer FO%, Big Body 6’5, kills penalties, and has fairly good speed to boot. I’d love this guy to be on our 4th line in place of Wallin next season.
    -And touching on Ron Guillet’s article last week, Rod Brind’Amour wouldn’t be a bad choice for a 4th line center as well. There’s your veteran experience, there’s your gym rat / physical specimen, and there’s your FO% and bit of offensive punch. I think if not re-signed by Carolina, he might come at quite a reasonable price.

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  • Cameron

    @ Gby:
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    His contract extends into next year, and he will likely just retire if they want to trade him.

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  • Tim Horton

    Side note: (if you hate baseball don’t look)
    The jays are putting on a clinic with the bat today…

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  • Gby

    @ Cameron:
    I totally disagree with you. haha!
    Still not a fan of the Ryan – Carter aspect.
    I honestly do not believe that Burke will falter from his top6 / bottom6 layout.
    I’d rather save the cap space from Frolov, and put it towards a better two way forward (preferably center) that can shut down the opponent’s top line.
    And I’m still not a believer in pushing Kadri into the mix next year (obviously if I am adhering to the top6/bot6 theory then we don’t need another skilled forward just yet).
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    But it’s fun to play out these scenarios.
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    Somebody give me some insight into Blum. I have no idea what you guys have been talking about and I feel fairly ignorant. Is this kid an offensive talent *on the back end* or ‘the next big thing’ what’s his deal?

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  • Cameron

    @ Gby:
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    Burke has already stated he is still a long ways away from being able to put his top-six bottom-six into full swing. He says his ratio right now is more like 9 and 3. We’re going to have to run 3 scoring lines next year, where preferably two of them are also responsible defensively. We don’t have the horses yet for a 6 and 6. Next year maybe.

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  • Tim Horton

    I also just don’t like the aspect of trading for a star player just to get another star… Other than that I like it… Frolov on a short term deal. I also think Kadri should only start with the club if he has another good camp. He will play most of the year with the leafs either way but make him earn it. His good, pre-season last year doesn’t carry over either.

    As for Blum he’s a prospect so obviously anything can happen, but he has a huge upside as a reliable defensive partner and great PPQB.

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  • long_suffering_leaf_fan

    Whats the big deal about bolding or adding
    spaces?
    How about italics or underlining …
    maybe changing the size
    or how about the colour?

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  • http://admin Alec Brownscombe

    leafslunch wrote:

    Alec, you know a title like that deserves an award?

    Thank you sir.

    Just when I thought there was no appreciation left in this world for a dirty pun.

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