Are the Leafs the NHL’s Red Sox?

by on May 3, 2010 in Opinion - 109 Comments

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Those who know me can tell you I am an avid reader.  I devour books at a staggering pace, specializing in sports books and autobiographies mostly.  And as the warm weather approaches, and the hockey season gives way to deck weather, my reading habit ramps up considerably.

Book of choice at the moment?  ”The Yankee Years”  by Joe Torre.  A fantastic account of life in the major leagues and life as the manager of one of the most popular, most traditional, and at times, most dysfunctional franchises in the world.

Torre does an excellent job of taking readers behind the scenes of his time in New York, including a fist hand look of one of the biggest rivalries in all of sports.  That is, the Yankees and the Boston Red Sox.

And that’s where the parallels started standing out to me as a Leafs fan.

Aside from my over the top affection as it relates to the game of hockey, I am a big fan of all things sports.  I have vested interests in baseball, lacrosse, soccer, football, and a few other sports as well.

I enjoy baseball.  I always have, ever since my dad took my brother and I to a Jays game when we were kids.

As a devout fan of the New York Yankees (and someone who keeps the Jays close to my heart) it pains me to say it, but the Boston Red Sox are to be admired.

While I would never admit it to friends while at the bar watching a Yankees/Red Sox game on ESPN, from top to bottom, the Sox are the definition of a franchise that has its house in order.

And believe it or not, while thumbing through the pages of “The Yankee Years” the story that I felt was familiar to me, perhaps was just that.

Call me crazy, but I think the current path of the Toronto Maple Leafs may just mirror that of the Boston Red Sox.

First and foremost, the unbridled passion from the fan bases of those two teams are among the biggest in all of sports, worldwide.  The Leafs and Red Sox all have a large group of followers (referred to by teams as “Nations”) and have fans planted in every part of the world, not just those cities related closely in geography.

Going in chronological order as it relates to the similarities, the Red Sox were a team that struggled mightily until new owner John Henry came into the fold.  While the Leafs obviously did not change ownership (and one doubts they ever will) the similarities are there between how Henry came in and ushered a new era into the club, representing change to way things happened on and off the field, something that the Leafs recently shifted their focus towards as well.

The Red Sox brought in Theo Epstein, widely regarded as one of the brightest minds in the game of baseball.  Epstein is a confident, hard working, motivated individual who wants to win and set up a foundation to be a winning team for a long time, something he has established in Boston with the Red Sox.

The Leafs, for their part, brought in Brian Burke.  Someone who was widely regarded in hockey circles as being one of the smartest GM’s in the league (in fact, he was named so twice by The Hockey News publication.)  Burke is a brash, confident person with a tremendous work ethic and a motivation to win, and set up a winning foundation, not unlike that of Epstein’s Sox.

Both men are confident in their abilities.  They both know what they want and how to obtain it.  And they both do a wonderfully skillful job at manning the ship that is a front office in one of the biggest sports markets, with one of the biggest teams in their respective organizations.

Both of them have an emphasis on surrounding themselves with the biggest, and most intelligent staff possible.  Both have seemingly grasped the concept that a GM doesn’t necessarily have to know how to do everything.  He simply needs to surround himself with people that do, and trust those people when he chooses to delegate to them.

Both of them are tech savvy people.  While Epstein was one of the first GM’s to introduce the statistical analytics into baseball, Burke seems to be completely on board with all things technological, including the use of PC Tablets.

While Wilson and Co. deserve credit for their integration, Burke, for his part, has taken a keen interest in their benefits to the club as well.

Both of them are incredibly dogged in their determination to bring the best players possible to their city, to play for their team.  Epstein, in his attempt to sign then free agent pitcher Jose Contreas, flew all the way to Nicaragua to meet with the pitcher, in an attempt to sign him.  He was unsuccessful, but it proved that he meant business in terms of bringing in the best possible talent.

Burke, of course, has done something very similar, with last year’s flight on July 1st to Sweden to meet and finalize the deal with Leafs goaltender Jonas Gustavsson (and perhaps a stealth meeting with the Sedin twins, though Burke may never admit to such.)

In fact, both men graduated with a Juris Doctor in law, though they came nearly fifteen years apart.

In terms of the way they want to shape their team, though the differences between hockey and baseball may vary widely, they both have a certain attitude as to how their teams are to be built in terms of attitude.

The Red Sox turned the corner when they brought in players like David Ortiz, Johnny Damon, and Pedro Martinez.  All those players, aside from having tremendous skill, had a certain “swagger” to them.  A “cant be beat, we’re not afraid of you” mentality that is just as bit responsible for getting them over the hump as their skill.

Toronto, through Brian Burke’s vision, is being built in much the same fashion.

Players like Dion Phaneuf, Phil Kessel, and Mike Komisarek carry themselves with a certain bravado that matches that of their GM.  They are all talented players, who are extremely confident in their ability, and have a certain “just try and stop me” mentality that should bode well for the Leafs in the coming seasons as they attempt to mold themselves into a contending team in the Eastern Conference.

Perhaps I have been out in the sun way too long.  Or, perhaps these comparisons are legitimate.

As a Leafs supporter, one can only hope for the latter.  Not only because I burn easy and that’s never fun, but for the fact that the fans of the Toronto Maple Leafs are just like that of the Boston Red Sox.

They are passionate about their team.  They live and die with their team.  They ride the waves of joy and the lightning of disappointment with their team, and its players.

They deserve the very best.

And just like those on the now famous 2004 Boston Red Sox club, members of the team that finally brings the Toronto Maple Leafs that long waited championship will be forever known as heroes and legends amongst the fans and devout supporters.

Let’s just hope it doesn’t take 86 years for Leafs fans to be afforded the opportunity to hold those players high as heroes and legends.

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  • http://maplestirup.com maplestirup

    @ Cameron:
    If the Leafs got Joe Thornton I would seriously jump over the moon. I’ve always wanted to see him as our top line centre. The Buds will need one, because like you said, we’ve got three 2nd liners. What happens to Grabovski when we get one though?

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  • Schenn

    I belive one of Kadri or Grabovski would move to the wing and the other would fill out the 2nd and 3rd line center positions along with Bozak.

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  • Schenn

    As for my lineup, according to capgeek.com I’d be over the cap by $90,000.
    That is with Finger being burried, Marleau getting $6.0 million, Neal $4.0 and Horton at his current $4.0 million and Byfuglien at his current $3.0 million.

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  • jaredoflondon

    @Schenn, how much is Kulie getting? Hanson?

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  • imaleafer

    There’s no way Neal will be traded for kaberle. Remember a year ago kabs was worth Carter and a first. So unless Burkie gets a similar deal. Kabby won’t
    be going anywhere. The teams it will be between are
    islanders, rangers, Nashville and buffalo. Islanders have plenty
    of prospects and rangers are in need of a shake up.

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    @ imaleafer
    2 years ago Kabby was worth a struggling Carter who hadn’t even established himself as a reliable 2nd line center and a 1st, he also had 3 more years left on his sweet heart contract and had not had his head softened by Cam Janssen yet.
    If Burke was offered Kaberle for Neal straight up, he would sign on the dotted line so fast the paper would catch fire

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  • imaleafer

    @ jaredoflondon:
    Not a chance, Burke has stated what it will cost to trade kaberle. And there’s no way he would do a straight up deal for Neal. He wouldn’t trade kaberle for kessel so what makes you think he would trade for a player of lesser value. He’s only trading for a top 3 and a pick or a top 6, first round and a prospect. If he doesn’t get that then kabby stays. We know how stubborn Burke is.

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  • jaredoflondon

    @Tim Horton
    ok for argument sake, lets say Neal now is less, if only slightly a better player than Carter. The value comparison is more about Kaberles worth than Neals. Kabby might have regressed only slightly but he also is 2 years older with 2 years less on contract, that loweres his value significantly, especially since there is no way to know if Kaberle will resign in Dallas. As things stand now the most I see Burke getting out of Dallas for Kaberle is Neal and a conditional first in 2011 (only a 2nd or 3rd if he resigns)

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  • Buds_17

    I would agree with imaleafer. I think Burke has a slightly over ambitious perception of kaberles value and he will not trade him unless that value is met. So for everyone that thinks kaberle is as good as gone, you may be in a for a big surprise when he’s still on the leafs roster in October.

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  • Sk8trBoi

    Question:
    Let’s pretend that the Leafs kept Tomas Kaberle next season and he put up comparable numbers to those he amassed this year, what do you think the Leafs would get for Kaberle at next year’s trade deadline?
    Considering some past last minute deals (Owen Nolan for a 1st plus McCauley & Boyes, OR Brian Leetch for a 1st plus Kondratiev & Immonen) it would seem reasonable that Kaberle would fetch at least a 1st rounder.
    So, doesn’t it stand to reason that Kaberle and his enviable contract should garner much more than that this summer?
    That’s why I feel players like James Neal or James Van Riemsdyk or Nathan Horton or Brandon Sutter, for example, are realistic targets.
    I hope Burke holds out to get what he wants!

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  • Wook

    @ Buds_17:

    The only way Kaberle remains on the Leafs roster in October is if he had been extended. Among many of his screw ups, JFJ didn’t trade nor extend McCabe during his contract year and ended up overpaying with NMC to prevent him from hitting the UFA market. We all know how the ensuing tale ended, the princess never found her prince charming and all we have is Van Ryn’s broken body and his expiring contract to show for it.
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    This may be an apples to orange situation in some sense, but I cannot see how BB would handcuff the organization with nearly 25 million dollars in cap space just in the back end while having to deal with Schenn, Gunnarsson, Bozak, Stalberg, Caputi and other RFAs. On top of everything, there will only be six or seven forwards under contract (Kessel, Grabovski, Orr and presumably Kadri, Kulemin, Hanson, and Mitchell) in addition to another goaltender’s contract. We don’t know if the Monster will indeed emerge as a bona fide starter so there may be a need to extend Giguere or find another veteran replacement. Sure, you can bury Finger’s contract to free up that 3.5 million cap space, but another contract will have to replace his in the back end, and we are not even including any UFAs or other new players that may be added from this summer to the next.
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    I guess one could further argue that BB could also get rid of Beauchemin or Komisarek’s contracts to make room for the forwards, but this would be a rather futile exercise considering that our defense is the most stable part of the roster with or without Kaberle. While I buy the argument that BB won’t trade Kaberle just for the sake of trading, there is an equally valid case to be made that he wouldn’t keep Kaberle just for the sake of keeping when there are so many needs for this team and as many uncertainties surrounding our youngsters moving forward.

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  • Wook

    @ Sk8trBoi:
    Don’t forget Kaberle’s NTC. Who is to say that he would magically waive the clause?

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  • long_suffering_leaf_fan

    Iginla to the Leafs?

    http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Mike-Augello/IGINLA-TO-TORONTO/120/28159

    Grabs, Kabs +

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  • Sk8trBoi

    @ Wook:
    You’re right, sorry I forgot.
    Be that as it may, I think the general idea regarding Kaberle’s worth is the same.

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  • Sk8trBoi

    @ long_suffering_leaf_fan:
    Interesting read, and I would do that deal in a heartbeat but I just don’t see it happening. Why would the Flames want to reinvent the Leafs in Calgary? Strange.

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  • Buds_17

    @ Wook:
    There is no question that it’s in the leafs best interest to move kaberle, and I really hope it does happen. My worry however, is that no team potentially interested in kaberle is willing to offer the kind of return that Burke is expecting. This is the only reason why I think Kaberle may not end up being dealt this summer. For example the offer that was on the table from Washington at the trade deadline, can’t remember exactly which names where involved, but it was nowhere near the top 3 forward and a pick or prospect, Berke and leaf fans are hoping for.

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  • long_suffering_leaf_fan

    @ Sk8trBoi:
    Yeah after Sutters last deal with Burkie and how poorly it turned out for the Flames I’m not sure I can see it happening either but Jerome sure would look nice in the Blue and White that’s for sure

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  • BeLeafer

    @ Schenn:
    I think if Burke really wants to target Horton he can probably get him…. it doesn’t look like Horton wants to be there anymore and is not on the same page with some in the organization

    he would be great on a line with Kessely snipes

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  • BeLeafer

    @ Wook:
    was there any word on if Schenn was considered for team Canada or if he was an option??… to me it’s laughable that Del Zotto and Burns are there instead of him

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  • Wook

    @ Buds_17:
    Given that Kaberle had never allowed himself to be freely exposed to the trade market, no one can be sure of how other GMs value Kaberle. Being a fan of conspiracy theories, I can imagine Burke being so publicly adamant about not trading Kaberle unless his demands are met because he has already had some favourable contacts with GMs outside the three teams Kaberle had named at the trade deadline. Alternatively, every other GMs in the league do not value Kaberle as much as Burke, and he is using the media to call out to other GMs to step up a notch. Regardless of the “real” situation, unless something drastic happens in the back end, it makes little sense to me why Burke would handcuff the cap to the back end when there are obvious needs for improvement at the front end.
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    Ask yourself this, how will this team be any more competitive in the long term than they were this year if Kaberle gets an extension? Assuming that BB will spend extra cap space to acquire more talent up front, his extension may come at the cost of potentially losing some of our youngsters to offer sheets or forced trades over the next couple of years? We will be dealing with at least 31 interal RFAs over this summer and the two following that. Okay, granted that most are AHL lifers, but there are about 10 or so potentially significant contracts to worry about. What about the continued development of Gunnarsson? Actually, maybe not so much, considering that he is already averaging close to or more ice time than Kaberle.
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    If we were as deep and talented as some of the better teams in the league, extending Kaberle and his unique attributes (and his decline) may make better sense. However, trading Kaberle will bring our talent pool and depth that much closer to the better teams while shedding cap space in the back end. Regardless of Kaberle’s historical stats, the new Leafs have proven to all of us that Kaberle is not necessary for this team to succeed, in fact, one may further argue for a case of addition by subtraction. Even when Kaberle was playing at his peak and contributing to the offense with better players in front of him we failed to make the playoffs. I hope that BB trades him to the highest bidder and don’t look back.

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  • BeLeafer

    @ imaleafer:
    except Kabs ain’t staying.. burke will still playing hardball though

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