Cormier Facing Charges

by on May 11, 2010 in League News - 29 Comments

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Former Team Canada World Juniors captain, Patrice Cormier, will be facing charges of “assault causing injury,” says Annie-Claude Bergeron, a spokes-person for the Crown prosecutor’s office of Rouyn-Noranda. Cormier will appear in court on July 12 for his hit on Mikael Tam on January 25th of 2010.

The QMJHL suspended Cormier for the rest of the regular season and playoffs following the incident. Tam spent a night in the hospital, then returned and was suspended 2 games himself for a hit from behind against the Gatineau Olympiques on March 12th 2010.

This is a dangerous road for any league to be taking regarding hockey. Though it was a dangerous hit, it is not often a hockey play is brought under review in court. The QMJHL had taken actions to suspend Cormier from the league, but outside law actions cause a hazardous outlook on the game itself.

It begs to question if any incidental contact (body contact, fighting, stick infractions) cause an injury to a player if the law can immediately intervene in the situation. I, for one, hope the league finds a way to separate the sport from common crimes.

Micheal A. Aldred

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  • vesku35

    @Micheal Aldred:

    Take it to the extreme, though. What if McSorely had killed Brashear on his blatant attempt to injure. Why is that not murder?

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  • luke

    vesku35 wrote:

    @Micheal Aldred:
    Take it to the extreme, though. What if McSorely had killed Brashear on his blatant attempt to injure. Why is that not murder?

    Agreed. You can’t just absolutely separate sport and crime. If you do, someone will die.
    That said, where do you draw the line? Personally, I think the Cormier hit requires recognition by the courts; if only a slap on the wrist and a ‘we’re watching you’ type statement to the leagues.

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  • Doorman

    What a load of crap! Someone has toooooooo much time on their hands!

    And I dont realy care.

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  • theguillotar

    Doorman wrote:

    What a load of crap! Someone has toooooooo much time on their hands!
    And I dont realy care.

    actually? it’s pretty easy not to read something….

    Keep it up MLHS, loving the new layout and the blogs are wicked compared to every other site out there.

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  • Doorman

    Let me re phrase that; Law has to much time.
    This subject; it is what it is. Itsw been beaten to death, Its one of those damned if you do;
    or damned if you dont; For both sides.

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  • wendel over mats

    I wonder why it took this long to lay charges?

    If the Crown Prosecutor (or the provincial government which tacitly commands it) wanted to set an example/score some cheap political points – it’s pretty much muted by waiting so long.

    (I still think it’s fine to proceed however. Look what happened when Ontario prosecuted Dan Maloney decades ago….hockey was cleaned up overnight!)

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  • Jordan

    Good. I don’t understand how someone could hurt someone that bad on purpose. It blows me away

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  • peterbleafs

    I like this, and I love that the police are involved. People need limits and when they are exceeded they are exposed to repercussions. I do not think he will ultimately have a criminal record by the process will certainly help others not to be as animalistic as this guy. Personally, Id not want him on my team at all, ever. Pity, all that talent limited by a disrespect for people, his parents ought to go to jail with him.

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  • Doc_yqx

    Only in Quebec, and to ‘send a message’ may ruin 2 young lives,
    If anything, the league should be singled out for allowing things to get out of hand like this, over a long period of inactivity with regards to actually enforcing their rules with stiff enough penalties,fines, consequences.All ‘pro’ / ‘semi’ pro etc leagues have been slack to say the least, if every rule infraction was called, or at the very least enforced,even after the fact, the league, it’s teams and players would soon come around.
    Personally, i’ve always felt that since the dawn of television,video review etc. when a player breaks a rule, such as a high stick…there should be supplementary disipline in the way of fines/suspensions regardless of whether he got his ’2 minutes’.
    If the NHL for instance, reviews every game,as we’ve heard,then the league’s officials should be able to fix the phantom calls by way of fine,escalating to suspension for repeat and escalating offences.
    I know this all sounds difficult but seriously…if a league is truly intent on stopping ‘penalites’ all they have to do is hit’em where it hurts most….” The POCKET ”
    Fine the player…fine the coach,gm, team…and you’ll soon see hits like Cormiers come out of hockey …and yes…even in the minors,etc….make them pay enough,early enough and you won’t have to worry about it happening in junior,ahl,nhl or any league.

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  • Doc_yqx

    Despite my feelings mentioned above…maybe it IS time that a player is singled out, but i still think it goes deeper than that, we’ve all seen the decline of RESPECT in the game, at all levels and that is the biggest fault today…the failure to return respect to any sport.

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  • carts

    On a completely unrelated matter… I’m disgusted by the decision of the Blue Jays to move their Philadelphia series because of the G20 summit in June. Who cares if it would have been a nightmare to get to the Rogers Centre with all the security measures? I would have crawled on my hands and knees through pouring rain to see Halladay’s return to Toronto.

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  • Only_crime

    it sucks though because cormier is encouraged do do what he did by coaches and the hockey culture. Hes probably been told to make open ice hits like that since he was young. Yes he went too far and injured a player but how close was he to not hitting his oppenent in the head and not injuring him? a matter of centimeters i would think. Thats what sucks about this does he deserve to face CRIMINAL charges ( Fines and such are a diffrent story) for a check missing by a matter of centimeters? I believe he deserved his suspension but i cant believe he deserves to face criminal charges for a hit that happens so many times over a full season. I think if you want to let these players face charges like this you have to make it clear at the BEGINNING of the season. I dont feel it is right to hand pick a guy and randomly charge him to make an example you have to clearly state before the beginning of next season that players are subject to this so that all the players understand this.

    And one other thing that really bugs me is the minor leagues basing suspensions on injuries alone. How are you suppose to police the league if you say you wont be suspended unless you injure someone??

    I wouldnt mind in coming season to see players charged with criminal charges but again i believe the commisioner has to step up and make it clear this can happen.

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  • 2 Minutes for Looking so Guru

    To be quite honest, I don’t know how much respect there ever really was in the game. I think guys respect the fact that if they get out of line a goon will put them back in there.

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  • Richard-Steven Williams

    Really the CHL and its member clubs should have been a little more proactive before it ever reached the courts, but what can they do other than hand out season long suspensions. We’ve all seen the rash of injuries in the NHL this season but I can’t remember the last junior game I watched where there wasn’t a hit that made me go… damn. Major junior is an advert for the game right down to community rinks and parents are going to become ever more weary of letting their kids play when they are watching 16-20 year olds going out to intentionally injure their opponents.

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  • I_am_I

    I wish the article had a little more information on the original hit. I did some digging:

    Puck Daddy:
    “Playing against Patrick Roy’s Quebec Remparts, Cormier came onto the ice during a line change and went straight after Mikael Tam, who was carrying the puck across the ice.
    Just as Tam dumped the puck into the Huskies zone, Cormier launched himself, leading with his elbow, toward the Remparts defenseman.”

    NHL fanhouse:
    “However, with hits to the head getting increased scrutiny at all levels of hockey, district attorneys have to decide when enough is enough. They have to figure out whether a competitor crossed the line, and there’s no question Cormier’s hit left him as a prime candidate for a day in court. He made no effort to make a hockey play. Tam didn’t have the puck, didn’t have his head down, and wasn’t skating recklessly where he shouldn’t have been.
    It’s simply a vicious, unnecessary, dangerous hit, and Cormier made no effort not to hit Tam in the head. In fact, he appeared to be going right after the head.”

    So this doesn’t look much like an accidental hit to the head. Remember to make assault charges stick you need intent (i.e. take actions you know are reasonably likely to harm another person). Any accidental hits in hockey are considered part of the game, along with a level of body contact that is commensurate with the level of play. However much like the Bertuzzi hit there is a point where the hit should not be considered part of the game.

    @Only_crime: I hope Cormier isn’t encouraged to head hunt with his elbows. I agree that injury should not be the sole criteria for suspension. I like that the suspension was longer than the injury lasted though.

    @Doc_yqx: I don’t think the league wants to set itself as a court system. I think the onus should be on the teams to send in what they believe are dangerous plays to be reviewed by the league for supplemental discipline. There is a lot of grey areas that quite frankly you would need a hearing and panel to determine the outcome. Not to mention you would need to review 1230 regular season games meaning a team of reviews leading to a lot of individual judgment calls. Whereas the team submitting it you can just review the incident itself.

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  • Declyn Valentine

    @ peterbleafs:
    That was Cormier. Twice in different games he threw blindside elbows at the end of his shift at opposing players. It was painful to see the “C” on his jersey.

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  • dlb

    If coaches and parents and leagues could get this stuff out of the game then the law doesn’t need to get involved.
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    There certainly is small minority of coaches, parents and players that believe hockey violence equates to success in hockey futures. Intimidation is taught at all levels and can sometimes be part of the game plan. Intent to injure is learned behaviour as much as it is a part of our own makeup.
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    Ultimately, this perceived hockey culture is what the law might be required to squash…unless the majority of us who represent the real hockey culture can force these pricks out of our rinks.

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  • 4evrblue

    I for one wouldn’t mind having him in the blue and white. Yeah I said it!!

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  • http://mapleleafshotstove.com Garrett Bauman

    Intent. That’s the bottom line.
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    A player signs a contract, and in doing so agrees to the inherent risks of the game, within the confines of the rules of the sport, which may include injury. Fair enough.
    .
    However.
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    Intent to injure is not, and has never been, an accepted part of the game. And therein lies the difference.
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    The laws of the land do not simply disappear because a sport such as hockey has its own set of rules. To argue they somehow do is uneducated, ignorant and absurd.
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    In the case of Cormier, the video evidence is pretty damning. He leaves the bench, beelines directly to a player who is in the process of moving the puck, and throws an elbow square to his head.
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    In what world is that an accepted hockey play, or a “part of the culture”?
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    It isn’t. It’s a blatant attempt to injure, and if leagues are serious about eradicating such activities from the game, a simple “don’t do this” speech isn’t going to do the job. So many of these players think “it can’t happen to me” – the invincibility complex – that perhaps a form of consequence beyond missing a few games has to be enacted.
    .
    What Cormier did was attack another player, with the intent of causing injury. That has no place in the game – and the laws of the land would tell you it has no place in society either.
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    As far as I am concerned, he should be charged. Just as Jonathan Roy should have been also, and was. Roy, for the record, received an unconditional discharge … as Cormier likely will too. But the message was sent that if you willfully attack another player who has not consented to engage, you can be charged just as if you had willfully attacked a person walking down the street. It’s no different in the eyes of the law — nor should it be.
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    Same goes for Bertuzzi, for that matter. And McSorley. And whatever other examples you can think of where there was clearly an attempt to injure at play. And yes, I will go so far to suggest that had Cooke been charged for his hit on Savard, I’d have said good on the prosecutors for bringing forth the motion (whether or not a charge would have followed is debatable – intent would have to be proven and admittedly the Cooke hit fell into that “grey area” … but the point stands that a message far more effective than a penalty and a non-suspension would be sent). This crap needs to be eradicated, and if existing deterrents do not do the job, the next step is a necessity.
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    Play the game the right way and there is no issue. Play it with the intent to injure, and pay the price just as you would outside the rink. I have no problem with that whatsoever.
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    The law is the law, folks. Nothing is above it – least of all a game. And no matter how much we love to place it on some sort of holy pedestal, at the end of the day it’s still just a game, and the rules of the real world still do apply. There are a set of standards, of reasonable expectations, which accompany the agreement to play the game. And it includes the risk of injury. But nowhere is the willful intent to injure a part of that.
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    And it is that very intent is the line at which justice via the league (penalties and suspensions) and justice via the courts has been drawn by the QMJHL. Here’s hoping the other leagues will man up and follow suit.

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  • dlb

    @ Garrett Bauman:
    Well said. I have to add, however:
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    When a player goes out and two-hands a guy in the head, or maliciously runs someone into the boards from behind with the intent to maim them…
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    1. There are parents who will pull that kid aside and let them know it’s wrong.
    2. There are coaches who will sit that kid on the bench. There are coaches who will cut them from their roster.
    3. There are organizations who will ban the kid when it’s apparent that there’s a tendency.
    4. What better deterant is there to stop this behaviour than to have a kid’s peers NOT think he’s tough or cool or badass?
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    If the hockey crowd can’t police itself then parents are left to decide if they want to register their kids in a sport that could get them killed? I thought the notiion proposterous 15 years ago when I played, but if the law is necessary to accomplish it then I’ll to go along with that now.

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