Leafs Fans Robbed Of Memorable ’93 Reunion

by on June 23, 2010 in Leafs News - 96 Comments

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Now, I for one dislike the “coulda, woulda, shoulda” debate when it comes to the National Hockey League Hockey Hall Of Fame.  After all, I think it somewhat demeans and disregards the accomplishments of those who are selected, and that simply isn’t right.

No one knows better than I do how much Dino Ciccarelli deserves the call to the Hall.  I have been telling more or less anyone who will listen for a number of years that I thought he belonged.  I couldn’t be happier for  Angela James and Cammi Granato, the first female players to be enshrined.  And Jim Devellano and Daryl “Doc” Seamen are both incredibly intelligent men who deserve their spot along hockey’s greatest.

But as a Leafs fan, it’s hard not to feel selfishly snubbed once again.  With yesterday’s vote for the Hall of Fame here and gone for another year, the only thing I could think of wasn’t what was, but what could have been.

And what could have been would have been really special.

For every player chosen to be inducted into the hallow halls of rich hockey history located in downtown Toronto, there are those who are on the outside looking in.  For some, Ciccarelli’s case could serve for inspiration.  For others, they know their time is drawing near, and they may not be able to afford the luxury of waiting as long as Dino did.

And Leafs fans, and fans around the world, lost out on the chance to see something really special in early November.

Doug GIlmour, who has been up for induction for a few years now, was once again left out, and while I for one am happy for a guy like Ciccarelli, one could see where sour grapes start to trickle in from Leafs Nation.

Gilmour, after all, had 214 more points over his career than Ciccarelli did.  With the two playing similar, gritty styles, many believe the case should have been made for Gilmour over Ciccarelli.

Many now believe, however, with Ciccarelli and his long waiting period out of the way, perhaps Gilmour is the next of his kind to pay his dues, sit on eligibility for a few years, and then finally get the deserved call.

Pat Burns, on the other hand, is a little different.

The three time Jack Adams coach of the year winner and one of the most popular coaches in NHL history, Burns is fighting for his life, a fight those around him conceded recently that he was losing.

After announcing he was battling cancer for the third time of his life, Burns admitted he was forgoing further treatment.  Since then, a large push has been made throughout the hockey world, beginning with a Facebook campaign, to get the former Leafs bench boss, into the Hockey Hall Of Fame.

Burns’ exclusion after yesterday’s nominees were revealed sent shock waves through the hockey community.  A very well liked and respected person in the world of hockey, there were many who thought-given his condition-that Burns was a lock for enshrinement.

And as a Leafs fan, one can’t selfishly think of what might have been at the annual Hall of Fame game, held in Toronto every year in early November.

I had the fortune of being in attendance at last year’s Hall of Fame game where the Leafs defeated the Red Wings, and MLSE, for their faults, certainly knows how to put on a show, and the Hall of Fame weekend is no different.

It was awe-inspiring enough to see Steve Yzerman, Luc Robitaille, Brett Hull and company stride out onto the ice and receive ovations.

With a few weeks before the Hall Of Fame inductions, I couldn’t help but begin to daydream what the Air Canada Centre might look like if both Pat Burns and Douggie Gilmour were induced into the Hall of Fame in the same year, and the scene that would have resulted as the two of them stood together on the ice at the Air Canada Centre.

What could have been.  Will we ever know?

At least we have this.  We’ll always have this.  For better of worse.

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  • Jordan
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  • puckingicehole

    @ Jordan:
    Absolutely, if Savard for Kabs is the best deal offered, we jump on it. However, if a deal for picks and/or prospects is available, it would be better for the franchise to go that route. I consider it double dipping as you get the equal value (hopefully) in the trade plus you get cap space to sign another player.
    I really hope Burke is not serious about not persuing Kovi, because my dream off season is Kabs for Hodgeson and a 2nd, and signing Kovi.

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  • http://leafsforlife.proboards.com/index.cgi Amoroq

    GO ENGLAND!!

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  • peterbleafs

    The only high end puck movers available are Campbell and Kaberle… pay the piper period.

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  • http://mapleleafshotstove.com Garrett Bauman

    Got no problem with Gilmour being snubbed this year. Ciccarelli paid his dues, had to wait several years, and I’m happy to see him make it in. Dougie’s got time.
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    Burns, on the other hand … it’s a real shame. I don’t know what else to say. Maybe committee members didn’t want it seen as a sympathy vote … but you know, they elected Roger Neilson in 2002, a year after his diagnosis with terminal cancer, and not one person took issue with it.
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    Bottom line: 3 Jack Adams awards with 3 separate teams is an amazing accomplishment … not to mention a Cup on Burns’ resume. There is simply no satisfactory explanation for the snub. A dark day for the HHOF.

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  • Jordan

    @ puckingicehole:
    Im not that interested in prospects for Kaberle though. We added a ton this year and last and have enough to build a team around now. We are 6th out of 30 remember? Tons of defense depth, 5 good goalies, tons of guys like Stalberg, Caputi, Paradis and Blacker who we just got last year and could be everyday NHL guys. Not to mention our team is being built around a 24 year Phaneuf and our top picks Kessel, Kadri and Schenn. Then there is Bozak, Kulemin and heck even Gunnersson emerged as everyday quality NHLers. I hope to god Savard is offered becsuse thats what our team needs right now. Passion, talent, vertean playmaking center at a joke cap hit.

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  • http://mapleleafshotstove.com Garrett Bauman

    PPP has the player review for Schenn up, if anyone wants a sneak preview. It will appear (in part) on MLHS once Alec gets a chance to copy it over.
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    http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2010/6/23/1531355/2009-2010-luke-schenn

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  • http://mapleleafshotstove.com Garrett Bauman

    Something that ought to be crowd-pleasing:
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    Here’s a comment I left over at PPP on the Schenn review.
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    “Fun Fact: Know Who Schenn Loves Playing Most?
    Ottawa and Philadelphia.
    In 8 games versus Philly, Schenn has 2g, 2a, 5PIM and is a +3.
    In 10 games versus Ottawa, Schenn has 2g, 2a, 21PIM and is a +7.
    Ya, baby.”

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  • IBleaf

    Dougy will be in there in time…..players miss there turn, its how it works. It not disrespect to dougy or eric or niendyk theres just so many good superstars and only a certain amount of inductees. I forone think that this blog is disrespectful and puts a bad shadow on MLHS. I know not everyone feels this way, it is childish to say the least.

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  • canucksnaphook

    http://www.torontosun.com/sports/hockey/2010/06/23/14486146.html

    is this guy really a journalist? Holy shit this is one big rambling sentence and in a font that makes even good eyesight cry in pain. Nice work douche bag.

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  • Cameron

    @ Garrett Bauman:
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    It’s quite simple really. That first means nothing to the Penguins, because it won’t help them for 3-5 years (and 3 if they’re lucky). To a competitive team, Kulemin is worth more than a mid round first. He should be to us too though, because we cannot afford to waste more time developing someone who might be better than Kulemin.
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    To say Kulemin has only developed like a 2nd round pick would be pretty lazy, no offense Garrett. What is it, like 14% of 2nd round picks that even make themselves NHL’ers? So you’re saying Kulemin is like the 86% of 2nd rounders that don’t make it to the big leagues? I’d say he’s proven he should have been, or could have been drafted in the first round, and fairly high at that. I would definitely go back and take him over Jiri Tlusty, Riku Helenius, Michael Grabner, Ty Wishart, Trevor Lewis, Mark Mitera, David Fischer, James Sheppard, Peter Mueller, Derick Brassard, Bobby Sanguinetti, Leland Irving, Dennis Persson, Ivan Vischnevsky, Nick Foligno, Chris Summers, Matt Corrente, and Jonathan Bernier and Semyon Varlamov (though only because he’s a goalie, and I would never draft a goalie that high). I might even consider him over Bryan Little and Michael Frolik for his solid two way play over their slightly better point production thus far. I’d say he’s worth a 1st, but that’s just me.

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  • flappypaddle

    Jordan wrote:

    @ puckingicehole:
    Im not that interested in prospects for Kaberle though. We added a ton this year and last and have enough to build a team around now. We are 6th out of 30 remember? Tons of defense depth, 5 good goalies, tons of guys like Stalberg, Caputi, Paradis and Blacker who we just got last year and could be everyday NHL guys. Not to mention our team is being built around a 24 year Phaneuf and our top picks Kessel, Kadri and Schenn. Then there is Bozak, Kulemin and heck even Gunnersson emerged as everyday quality NHLers. I hope to god Savard is offered becsuse thats what our team needs right now. Passion, talent, vertean playmaking center at a joke cap hit.

    All of which is why Boston will keep him and offer up Bergeron… fingers crossed.

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  • IBleaf

    @ canucksnaphook:
    Definatly a douche …lol He could have limited that article to “kaberles available for trade and lots of teams are interested “

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  • Jonez

    Weren’t the female inductions supposed to be in a completely separate category of their own? Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought I read that they were supposed to be IN ADDITION to the usual number voted in, not in place of.

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  • TuckerThomas

    I think it’s important for women to be recognized as well. Dark day? I disagree. My daughter will be exposed to womens hockey ASAP and I want her to be able to experience the game to its max. Sure Dougie is a HOFer in all our hearts and he will be there some day but I really like the fact that womens hockey is getting its moment. Especially at a time when it’s trying to gain its fair share of exposure to both the media and young girls. Both women were incredible players and athletes and I congratulate them.

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  • Jordan

    @ flappypaddle:
    Totally agree, but Dreger said that multiple sources said Savard is being shopped. Dregs is never wrong

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  • Blogtastic

    Don’t know if it’s been said yet but THN has cited a rumor that has spezza going to Columbus for brassard, heselius (sp?) and there 4th overall!
    Holly over paymnt batman!!!!

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  • canucksnaphook

    Yeah I am not pleased with the liberal agenda of shoving ladies into the HHOF. Come on, its a ridiculous watered down version of the sport.

    If a guy like Lindros or Dougie arent getting voted in, then how can a chick that nobody even knows now be a member of the HHOF?

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  • IBleaf

    I agree kulemin was by far our best and most consistent player last year. Hes not the goal scorer like phil kessel but he brings a level of work ethic thats hard to match and I personally would be very upset to see him go.
    What kinda money is kulemin asking for?

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  • Cameron

    Jordan wrote:

    Holy fuck thats fucking stupid. How is Savard a bad idea when we are tradeing a player of the same age? We have Schenn, Phaneuf, Kadri, Kessel, Bozak and Kulemin as a young as fuck core. You think Burke wouldnt bring Savard in for Kaberle? Your totally wrong, and if it was offered he will take it. Why do you think he went out and got Niedermayer when he was 33? Because every team needs to be built with a young and verteran core

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    He signed Niedermayer for free though, what do you not understand about that? Do you think that Hossa and Campbell would have signed with Chicago before they turned into what they are now. The way you make your team attractive to free agents is by building it with youth, and then signing the old guys for free. We have to make this a place free agents want to come to. And how you can say we won’t land a big free agent is impossibly stupid. Burke is the best free agent GM in the league HANDS DOWN. He always gets his man. If he has to trade for rights to Thornton, or Richards, or he has to offer-sheet Carter, he will. A center will come, and he will be someone who isn’t 12 years older than everyone on our roster.
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    And yes, I do think teams will line up to give away picks and prospect for Kaberle, because we’ve already fucking seen it. Hamhuis just went for a 1st round prospect and a late pick, and that’s just his rights! Can you not see how Chiarelli has tried to create this situation. Savard was worth nothing to him, he fucked him on a contract renewal, and now he’s going to deal him for the guy he wanted all along. It’s like we’re just giving him Seguin, 1st, 2nd Kaberle for Kessel and a guy we should have been able to sign for free. Fuck you Chiarelli, keep your head case tiny center.

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