What to Expect in 2010-11: Kris Versteeg

by on July 23, 2010 in 2010-11 Season - 534 Comments

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Kris Versteeg has undoubtedly been the prize pick up for the Maple Leafs thus far this offseason. You’ve heard all the basics by now. He’s great in the dressing room, he plays all three forward positions, he produces under pressure and he’s a back-to-back 20 goal scorer. At age 24, these are all impressive qualities, but now the real question is: how he will fare in the Maple Leafs’ system?

The Blackhawks were absolutely stacked in 2009-10, with a ton of prime talent in their top 6. Hossa was recovering from surgery at the beginning of the season though, which lead to Versteeg playing more than a handful of games in a top line role. Nevertheless, this was short lived and Versteeg was bumped down to the third line when Hossa returned. So who did he play with this season? According to the linemate stats at DobberHockey.com, his top 2 line combos in terms of a percentage of his ice time at 5-on-5 were:

17.47%: Dustin Byfuglien – John Madden – Kris Versteeg

11.01%: Andrew Ladd – John Madden – Kris Versteeg

The next highest line combo is a measly 5.05%, so these two combos are the lines he primarily played on at even strength. So how do Byfuglien, Madden and Ladd measure up in comparison to Versteeg’s 20 goals and 44 points? Ladd is the best with 17 goals and 38 points. Byfuglien had the same number of goals, but four less assists for 34 points. Madden is nearing the end of his career and could only manage 10 goals and 23 points this season. Versteeg’s stats are better than all three, but they don’t necessarily jump out at you.

There are a few stats to help gauge the worth of a player in relation to his teammates. Quality of Teammates (QoT) and Quality of Competition (QoC) are deduced by looking at a single player’s On-ice/off-ice +/- (that is, the +/- when you’re on the ice and the +/- of your teammates when you’re on the bench) and comparing it to either their linemates or their competition when on the ice. Versteeg’s QoC was 0.003 (this and future stats are located at BehindtheNet.ca), which basically means that when he’s on the ice, he’s facing competition of roughly his own skill level. Where things get interesting is in looking at his QoT, which is -0.230. If you’re unsure of what that number means, allow me to simplify it for you. It was the worst QoT stat on the Chicago Blackhawks. This correlates to weaker linemates that would be unable to play up to the level of Versteeg.

As I outlined above, Versteeg played more than a few games with higher amounts of ice time than a third liner would typically get. Here is a breakdown of the number of games he played at differing ice time amounts in minutes and his stats therein:

00:00-12:59: 7GP, 1G, 1A, 2PTS

13:00-14:59: 25GP, 3G, 4A, 7PTS

15:00-16:59: 23GP, 6G, 4A, 10PTS

17:00+: 24GP, 10G, 14A, 24PTS

Let’s stretch each of these out to a full 82 game schedule:

00:00-12:59: 82GP, 11G, 11A, 22PTS

13:00-14:59: 82GP, 10G, 13A, 23PTS

15:00-16:59: 82GP, 21G, 14A, 35PTS

17:00+: 82GP, 34G, 47A, 81PTS

So if Versteeg had taken Hossa’s spot on the top line and stayed there the entire season, he could be expected to produce numbers similar to these. The line of thinking here is that Versteeg will be getting between 15 and 20 minutes of ice time day in, day out on this Leafs roster. The difference between the two situations is that of course Bozak/Kadri should not be expected to play the role of Jonathan Toews at this point in their careers. What these stats instead indicate is that Versteeg should at the very least be expected to remain a 20 goal scorer with increased ice time on a lesser team, if not slightly surpass his previous highs.

We’ve now established that Versteeg should be a good offensive weapon for the Maple Leafs for the time being. Now let’s take a look at what can be expected of him on the defensive side of the game during 5-on-5 play. Chicago scored an average of 2.60 goals per 60 minutes while being scored on 2.41 in the same span when Kris Versteeg was on the ice. This leads to a +0.19 for his +/-ON/60. In contrast, Chicago scored 2.77 times per 60 minutes while suffering 2.27 goals against when Versteeg was on the bench. This +0.49 +/-OFF/60 suggests that Versteeg was worse offensively and defensively than his team without him, but the stats are never that simple.

All three of Versteeg’s prominent linemates had a worse +/-OFF/60 than him. Madden lead the charge at +0.75, which was good for worst on the team among players who played more than 15 games. Byfuglien is second worst at +0.72, while Ladd fared a tad better at +0.54. The story remains the same for +/-ON/60. Ladd’s was again only slightly worse at +0.17. Byfuglien took over the worst spot this time at -0.28, while second worst Madden was a -0.24. So these defensive stats are actually fairly good for Versteeg in comparison to the linemates he played with.

Versteeg has been hyped by the Maple Leafs as a fantastic penalty killer in addition to his offensive contribution. Blocking shots is something Versteeg should not be expected to do, however. Versteeg blocked a measly 19 shots in 2009-10, while having 51 of his own shots blocked by the opposition. On the penalty kill, Versteeg’s +/-ON/60 comes out to -0.77, which sounds bad when you don’t realize that it’s actually fifth best on the team behind Byfuglien, Kane, Toews and Campbell. All in all, Versteeg’s defensive play is not a stand out portion of his game, but it will certainly be an upgrade on the horrendous defensive effort of the 2009-10 Maple Leafs.

Versteeg will likely be bounced around the top 2 lines throughout the 2010-11 season with the Maple Leafs. What we should be expecting from Kris is a consistent effort on defence, especially on the penalty kill while potting 20-25 goals in the opposition’s net. If the Maple Leafs are going to make the playoffs next season, Versteeg will need to continue playing the great hockey he played in Chicago.

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  • DefenseWinsChampionships

    To Toronto: Scottie Upshall
    To Buffalo: Tomas Kaberle
    To Phoenix: Derek Roy
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    Toronto gets what they want for Kaberle, a top-6 forward. Upshall is 26, just getting into his prime, can play both wings, and proved with Phoenix that he can put up good number when given top-6 ice-time. He pro-rated to over 30 goals last year.
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  • Jordan

    @ gunner_36:
    What you say about Semin is a classic example of someone who listens to the media. He couldnt catch a break this year in the playoffs, other then that he is a special player (lol pierre). He really is though, watch highlights of him scoring. Hes like an older Kessel. I hate him with a passion but hes a top 15 hockey player in the league. Scored as much as Kovalchuk did this year and makes 6 mil and is very defensive minded. I wouldd kill to have him here

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  • Jordan

    @ DefenseWinsChampionships:
    Upshall isnt worth Kaberle. He was traded for Carcillo last year lol

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  • gunner_36

    Jordan wrote:

    @ gunner_36:
    What you say about Semin is a classic example of someone who listens to the media. He couldnt catch a break this year in the playoffs, other then that he is a special player (lol pierre). He really is though, watch highlights of him scoring. Hes like an older Kessel. I hate him with a passion but hes a top 15 hockey player in the league. Scored as much as Kovalchuk did this year and makes 6 mil and is very defensive minded. I wouldd kill to have him here

    Sure he’s got a good shot and good puck skills, but he doesn’t have that compete level that we need. He dissapears, and seems to play for the name on the back instead of the one on the front. Why pay 6 mil or more to a guy that may score 40, but be a minus player and take bad penalties. You can’t go on stats alone, or else Poni is a good player.

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  • Jordan

    @ gunner_36:
    man he doesnt disappear, you listening to the stupid loving canadian media. Hes a beast, and minus player? LOL he was a +36 this year. Hes an amazing player all around. I hate him alot, but its true

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  • gunner_36

    Semin is about the last guy in the league I would sign or trade for, excluding Carcillo, Avery, and Wallin (Rickard, not Niclas).

    He’s also rumoured to be a nightmare for coaches and players. Trust me, it’s not worth it to go after him. There’s a reason Washington can’t go deep in the playoffs and it’s because of guys like this and Ovi.
    Plus we might have to sue him to get hi
    to play for us ha ha ha

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    @ gunner_36:
    well they are built with all russians. We arnt. If we plugged him into our lineup we would be a playoff team for sure with his 40 goals and 85+PTS. I agree you cant go all the way with him, but getting half way is a start, and we are building with guys who we need to do the rest. Outside of Kessel our scoing is pretty average right now.
    Burke is gonna make a big splash before the year, everyone knows it. Semin, Ryan, Clowe, whoever but its gonna happen. He might have to give up too much but its going down!

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    Jordan wrote:

    @ gunner_36:
    man he doesnt disappear, you listening to the stupid loving canadian media. Hes a beast, and minus player? LOL he was a +36 this year. Hes an amazing player all around. I hate him alot, but its true

    Have you seen him fight? Have you seen him in other years. Have you noticed he’s always on some sort of streak?
    I think you’ve been listening too much to guys like Pierre. Semin and the entire Caps team are over-hyped
    and they will not win the stanley Cup because they are a bunch of one dimensional guys. They prefer the looks of the play over the play itself. Look at Semin- if he didn’t try to go bar down every time he wouldn’t miss as much. Most goals go in down low (5 hole).

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    Jordan wrote:

    @ gunner_36:
    well they are built with all russians. We arnt. If we plugged him into our lineup we would be a playoff team for sure with his 40 goals and 85+PTS. I agree you cant go all the way with him, but getting half way is a start, and we are building with guys who we need to do the rest. Outside of Kessel our scoing is pretty average right now.
    Burke is gonna make a big splash before the year, everyone knows it. Semin, Ryan, Clowe, whoever but its gonna happen. He might have to give up too much but its going down!

    Russian players are way over-hyped. Show me anything they’ve done since they were the Soviets (aside from Fedorov and Datsyuk). They would prefer a pretty than a grind it out play that actually works. And Semin and all of the Russians are puck hogs. And I don’t like Cherry.

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  • gunner_36

    @Jordan

    We wouldn’t have been a playoff team. Burke would’ve shipped him outta here after Semin woulve started whining to Wilson about things not going his way. He would’ve become the laughingstock of Leafs nation. He would’ve fled to the KHL.

    Check out his fight on Youtube and tell me you want this guy on our team.

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    Plus the only reason he got 85 pts is Washingtons style: score as many times as you can and hope it’s more than the other team. Sorry goalie- you’re on your own. Plus he was playing with a bunch of other good cherry-pickets that only worry about offense Cough*Ovechkin*Cough

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  • Jordan

    We dont need him to fight though. We would need him to score 40 goals and 85 pts. Kessel cant fight either but I love him. I agree with what your saying but man, I dont know very many people who could say with a straight face they wouldnt take himm on their team. He scores like Kovalchuk and is younger at the moment.
    We would never get him though, so no use questioning really

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  • Jordan

    @ gunner_36:
    I use to think that, but someone pointed out to me that he spent alot of time with Fleischmann as a center and Laich I think? I dunnoo, but I use to fucking hate him. But I did alot of research on his play and found out hes actually a very good player

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  • The Shaker

    Yo Jordan, whats going on man.. its been awhile..

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  • Jordan

    None the less though, Im going to bed. Good chatting with you. I know I was a dick at first because I thought you were just another normal week long poster who didnt have a clue and just ran their mouth. I was wrong man keep on posting. We need as much brains as possible around here because the idiots are coming in packs of 12

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  • Jordan

    @ The Shaker:
    haha another guy I miss read. Im bad at that, but oh well, stick around, never have to many great fans

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  • wardus

    I would love to have Semin on the Leafs. The last couple of years he’s more than a point a game player getting second line minutes. And, even though he didn’t score in the playoffs this year, he was probably their best player. This guy is a phenomenal talent. So what if he fight’s like a girl, you don’t want your top 6 players to fight anyway.
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    If we could get Semin for Kabs, that’s a deal I would do, but I would rather get a younger guy…. Hodgeson + + would interest me too. But, I’ll say it again, keep Kabs and sign him to an extension.

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  • rpearce76

    I won’t pretend to know the book on Semin. I don’t. I know he scored a lot of pts and had 40 goals last year. As a fan of a team who could have used 40 more goals I can’t see why we wouldn’t add a guy like this if given the opportunity.

    Any arguments about him being one dimensional are useless since I fail to see more than one dimension of Kessel’s game, and we seem to like him.

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