Kaberle Trade Pool Results
So it ends, so it continues.Â Tomas Kaberleâ€™s tenure with the Toronto Maple Leafs did not indeed come to an end this summer.Â In an earlier post, I had established a mostly forgotten pool asking the faithful readers to put on their brian burke mask and pretend to be a GM.Â Yup, I sure am a trailblazerâ€¦suggesting people use the comments section of this site to postulate trade proposals.Â Where do I come up with such creative ideas?
100s of trade proposals were thrown outâ€¦by Jordan.Â A couple more by the rest of you guys.Â They ranged from sensible to insane (just look at my prediction).Â But in the end, a handful of bright people opined correctly that Kaberle would stay in blue and white.Â Without further ado, I would like to congratulate the prognosticator whose mind and timing are without peer; a reader who can sift through the tea leaves and find meaning, who may now benefit from the prestige and honour of being being right.Â Congratulations to you, danvertising, and your post:
I honestly donâ€™t think Kaberle will be tradedâ€¦.
I just donâ€™t see anyone giving up the young top six forward and first round pick that Burke wants.. And I donâ€™t see Burke trading him for less than what he has already publicly asked forâ€¦..
Your shrewd guess has won you the right â€“ in my eyes at least â€“to veto any â€˜book itâ€™ claim.Â As per the rules, you have ultimate bragging rights for correctly guessing the conclusion to this media-made soap opera before anyone else.Â Unfortunately, again as per the rules, youâ€™ve also…won… an authentic, vintage Bryan McCabe Toronto Maple Leafs jersey.Â Contact me at [email protected] to sort out the particulars of getting you this majestic eyesore.
I would like to thank the 3 closest runners up, Troy, Pat.b and smtavare, your predictions and your time are appreciated.Â I know it hurts to lose out, itâ€™s never easy…but at least you donâ€™t have to obtain a McCabe jersey.
As a final note of congratulations, Iâ€™d like to thank Kostas, as he has provided a lovely door prize:
TO Toronto: No one â€“ Kabs stays becuase Burke wants too much and no one will bite!!
Book it, iâ€™m the winner, you will see!
And then two posts laterâ€¦
I will guarantee Kabs is gone this summer! In fact, I will put this Bounty chocolate bar that I was planning on eating tonight on the line. If Kabs some how miraculously doesnâ€™t get dealt then I will send you this delicious chocolate bar for calling it.
Danvertising, I hope that you can savour this victory with as much class and civility as this guy.
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I understand rewarding the winner with a smiley face, but why did you draw a grotesque looking sex toy next to it?LOL I was just looking at it and thinking it’s a foot with a thumb haha
I understand rewarding the winner with a smiley face, but why did you draw a grotesque looking sex toy next to it?
@ HHT: - All of that is completely within his right to do. He was only being true to the confines of the contract. Any GM would have done similarly, and tried to get the best return. It was his duty to explore the option of maximizing that return. Kaberle’s peace of mind is completely irrelevent in the situation. It’s not as though Burke was doing all this, and then turning to Kaberle asking him to waive his NTC. Tomas is a big boy, and he signed that contract knowing exactly what it might entail. Respect is irrelevent because the team takes precedent over any one player. It has nothing to do with a lack of respect. If Tomas didn’t want to deal with that, he should have asked for less money and full NMC, or more money, and a more open clause. Kaberle has no one but himself to blame.
@ Cameron: Cameron, while I think Kabs is the past not the future, Burke was not exactly showing Kabs the utmost respect in the Kabs sweepstakes. If he wanted to be respectful, he should have made a blanket statement that he had no comment, but instead fed scraps to the media in an attempt to leverage his return. Instead, he chose to talk – to give constant sound bites: we have 10 offers. Six good offers. We have bad offers. We have no offers. We’d like a top 6 and a prospect for him. We’d like prospects for him. We’ll keep him. Yadda yadda. That put Kabs through the wringer. This went on during the entire process. He was constantly updating the situation. It’s not that I feel bad for Kabs. But if he were a player I actually liked, I would have been pissed at how Burke conducted himself. I’m not judging BB. Because I think BB was pissed at the little bastard for jinxing Carter and his other deals – and simply decided that his own needs (using the press to apply pressure to other GMs) were more important than Kabs’ peace of mind.
@ dlb: - Yes, it is exactly like that. Teaching might be the perfect analogy. Managing the first day is an art, and Wilson is good at it. I think very clearly, as a coach you have favorites, just like teachers, and you lighten up as time goes on. I believe it was kingkessel who said, for instance, that he saw RW out for breakfast with John Mitchell one morning. I knew right then than Mitchell would be resigned. It’s the same reason why Kulemin is still a Leaf, and Gunnar won’t be traded. They are Wilson’s favorites. Kaberle may not like it, but he’s going to have to start getting a little pissed off he wants to be part of Wilson’s crew.
I had a crazy idea this morning. We desperately need a power forward to play top six left wing minutes along with Kulemin. If we cannot acquire one why not convert one of our big d-men into one? People have thrown around the idea of converting Kaberle into a winger, why not Beachemin or Komisarek? We can certainly afford to move one guy up with the number of NHL defensemen we are paying! Hell, convert Jeff Finger! The converted player would not have to score at a high rate as long as he makes life difficult for opposition goalies and defencemen and creates space for Kessel and Kadri or Bozak in the vein of a Byfuglien or Hartnell or Tomas Holmstrom.I pitched the whole Finger conversion last week and didnt get a response, I thnk he would make a decent forward in the bottom 6… and in games when a dman goes down he steps right in the place.
I had a crazy idea this morning. We desperately need a power forward to play top six left wing minutes along with Kulemin. If we cannot acquire one why not convert one of our big d-men into one? People have thrown around the idea of converting Kaberle into a winger, why not Beachemin or Komisarek? We can certainly afford to move one guy up with the number of NHL defensemen we are paying! Hell, convert Jeff Finger! The converted player would not have to score at a high rate as long as he makes life difficult for opposition goalies and defencemen and creates space for Kessel and Kadri or Bozak in the vein of a Byfuglien or Hartnell or Tomas Holmstrom.
Anyone hear of the crazy rumor of Souray to the Caps? http://blogs.thescore.com/nhl/2010/08/20/fleischmann-for-souray-could-it-happen/comment-page-1/#comment-5421 If the “Flash” is available I hope Burke entertains the thought of moving Beauchemin for him. He could be a good edition points wise although I think I might rather Laich if possible I like the thought of running a team that is defensivly accountable and can score and I am sure thats what Burke is aiming for. I love RW but I am hoping he goes alittle less run and gun this year.
@ Schenn_equals_Beast: - Also, I believe Kaberle has earned the right to not be called out when he has a hard time recovering from a plus minus rating that is almost entirely made up during a time when Toskala was allowing shots in from center ice. I know he’s not as good as Lidstrom, but Christ, he’s one of the most dynamic offensive defensemen in the league. On a good team, that perception could even shift to the point where he is the best offensive defensemen in the league. The thought of him with the Capitals is actually disgusting.
@ Schenn_equals_Beast: - There was one year where Scott Niedermayer was clearly the best defensemen in the league and they gave it to Lidstrom. I believe it was 06′, Niedermayer’s first year with the Ducks That team was struggling hard, but in the 2nd half of the season, Niedermayer picked them up, put the whole team on his back, and literally willed them to the Conference FInal, almost single handedly. It was an incredible dispaly. Meanwhile, Lidstrom, surrounded by some of the most insane talent in the league, and the deepest roster in the West, waltzed his way to another stellar season statistically, and called it a Norris. That’s one advantage of playing in cities the media loves. - There was another year, earlier, when I believe Al McInnis was in a similar situation, having had a much more extraordinary year, but sat by to watch the NHL and their media voters hand the trophy to Lidstrom…again. Before you even start, I don’t mean this to slag him, because there’s no question he’s one of the all time greats. However, I’m just pointing out, it’s kind of like being rich – once you have money, it’s easy to make more. Once everyone perceives you as being the best, it’s easy to maintain that (especially in Detroit where Lidstrom has never not been on one of the best teams in the league).
@ Schenn_equals_Beast: The fire is only burning in some fans heads, im sure they are not worried about it at all, or they already no how Thomas feels and covered this…
@ Tim Horton: Holy awkward lol I’ve been there before with my girl though hahaha sometimes they just dont know when to stay quiet
@ Schenn_equals_Beast: - And he probably will. Give it time. It’s not like Burke or Kaberle are going to escape this situation without being confronted by the media.
@ mitch92: He doesn’t have to trash his family. He can say there was a misunderstanding, which is most likely true. And the “lost in translation” is used by most Euro players. If Kaberle truly doesn’t hate RW, then he has to make it known that his father’s views do not reflect his.
@ Schenn_equals_Beast: Lol hes not even arguing that kaberle is better than lidstrom what on earth are you talking about..
@ Schenn_equals_Beast: - Nevermind, you’re clearly not understanding the point. Again, I know who Nik Lidstrom is, and I’m aware of what he’s achieved. Your lectures aren’t necessary. My point has absolutely nothing to do with who the better defensemen was. For the record though, Lidstrom has at least a couple Norris Trophies he didn’t deserve.
My take on the Kaberle story is that its not a story… It may be to the media but not for me… - How many people go home after work and vent to their loved ones about their Boss or co-workers. The only thing your parents/partner ever hear about these people is when you vent. So they grow this hatred towards them… You really don’t expect them to bring it up to that person. - One time I vented to my girlfriend about someone at work. I got over it and it was a non-issue. A couple weeks later I met up with him and my girlfriend says right in front of him, isn’t this the guy that fucked you over… Awkward… Yeah thats what I thought, but the issue was nothing worth, making a confrontation over…
@ mitch92: - This is an excellent point. Many of us hate our bosses from time to time, but it doesn’t mean we switch companies and go to a competitor. I’ve had bosses I came home very angry with, and later calmed down and forgot all about it. If Wilson is lighting a fire under Kaberle’s ass and sending him angry on occassion, it might be a good thing.