MLHS FanPost – “A True Schenn-derella Story”

by on August 23, 2010 in Opinion - 124 Comments

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It’s time for another MLHS FanPost, DefenceWinsChampionships stops in again and this time takes a closer look at the stats of Maple Leafs defender Luke Schenn, and how those stats stand up beside comparable players.

A True Schenn-derella Story

By Byron Nelson (aka: DefenceWinsChampionships)

Anyone that remembers my last fan post: “A Comparison of the Toronto Maple Leafs’ Defensemen”, will already be well-aware of my love of statistics. In that specific piece of writing, I took a look at the 2009/10 season stats for each current member of the Toronto Maple Leafs’ defensive corps. I then used the information I had gathered to make a comparison between them. What was a surprise to many, was the amazing amount of success young blue-liner Luke Schenn seemed to have, finishing in 1st place in the statistical comparison, despite supposedly suffering from the dreaded “sophomore slump” during the season. As a result of this, I decided to do a follow-up fan post on Schenn, this time comparing him to some of the NHL’s elite defensive defensemen.

For this experiment, I used a group of eight players: Luke Schenn, Brent Seabrook, Robyn Regehr, Anton Volchenkov, Zybinek Michalek, Brooks Orpik, Andy Sutton, and finally, the sophomore version of Brent Seabrook. I included Seabrook’s sophomore self due to the fact that he is highly regarded as arguably the best defensive defenseman in the National Hockey League. I wanted to see where he was at statistically, while being at the same level of development Schenn is currently at.

For my comparison, I used five different statistical categories: Goals per 60 minutes of ice-time, (G/60), Assists per 60 minutes of ice-time, (A/60), Hits per 60 minutes of ice-time, (H/60), Blocked-shots per 60 minutes of ice-time, (BS/60), and Takeaway/Giveaway Ratio, (G/T). In attempt to curve the results, rather than just seeing which player was the best in every category, I added up each player’s numbers, (in each category), to get a total value for each of the categories. I would then get a player’s percentage of the total of each stat, thus giving credit to players that are well above the pack in any given category. For example, if Player A has an A/60 of 1.00, while Player B sits at 0.50 in the same category, Player A’s %G/60 would be 66.67%, due to 1.00/(1.00+0.50) equaling 0.6667.

Here are the statistical results:

Player Age Season %G/60 %A/60 %H/60 %BS/60 %T/G Total%

Luke Schenn 20 2nd 20.18% 11.11% 14.84% 11.78% 14.44% 72.35%

Andy Sutton 34 12th 17.54% 06.79% 15.31% 18.80% 10.16% 70.20%

Brent Seabrook 24 5th 11.40% 17.70% 13.12% 11.44% 14.97% 68.63%

Anton Volchenkov 27 7th 15.79% 09.26% 13.20% 17.58% 10.96% 66.79%

Brooks Orpik 29 6th 07.02% 19.34% 19.86% 10.81% 09.09% 66.12%

Zybinek Michalek 26-27 5th 09.65% 10.70% 05.60% 12.79% 18.72% 62.25%

Soph. Brent Seabrook 21 2nd 12.28% 14.61% 09.92% 10.38% 11.76% 58.95%

Robyn Regehr 29 10th 06.14% 10.49% 08.15% 06.25% 09.89% 40.92%

Notice how Schenn sits at the very top of the list, and is one of only two players to have double-digit percentage values in each one of the categories. He’s also the youngest player, and has significantly less experience than everyone else, except for the sophomore version of Brent Seabrook, whom Schenn

absolutely destroyed in this comparison. Note that I used the age that each player was for the majority of the season, not their current age. (Michalek turned 27 in January, so I couldn’t choose 26 or 27 alone) You also should keep in mind that Schenn was on the worst team, and that Seabrook and Orpik were playing on teams that may have inflated their offensive statistics, especially Seabrook, who spent a far greater amount of time on the powerplay than anyone else in this comparison.

Pretty surprising numbers if you ask me. Luke Schenn, the 20-year-old, sophomore defenseman, beats out all of his elite competition in this statistical comparison. Am I going to come right out and say that Schenn is better than all of these players? No, I’m not. But he definitely is a lot better than he has been given credit for by the fans and media in Toronto. His sophomore slump seems to have been merely a fabrication by the media as a result of his slow start to the season, in which he looked worse than he actually was, due to being left “hung out to dry” on his off-hand side of the ice by a oft-pinching Francois Beauchemin.

After a solid second NHL season, Luke Schenn is coming into a contract year, and has apparently been working very hard this offseason, having bulked up to a rather impressive 235 pounds. He got better as the season went on last year, especially after the arrival of Dion Phaneuf, and will be another year older, at 21, for the majority of the season. He is definitely poised for a great year, and will hopefully both continue experiencing, and continuously build upon the upward progress he encountered last season. This is definitely a player to be excited about Leafs Nation.

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  • http://checkingfrombehind.com danvertising

    Schenn’s numbers are inflated because of points vs. the rest of the group, no doubt. However, that just goes to show that he has way more potential than just a shutdown Mike Komisarek clone.
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    I see him as an elite shutdown defender who can contribute offensively. He will be cornerstone for our blueline, especially when paired with an offensive Phaneuf or Kaberle.
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    His weight gain does worry me a little bit. As stated above, this is very similar to what was said to have caused his slow start last season. However I very much hope that I am wrong. Also, I will add, Schenn was nowhere near as bad as most people think. For the first half of last year, he was inconsistent… but it’s not like he was terrible for 40 games… maybe half of those games he could have been better/quicker. But once he got on track he was easily our best defenseman for the rest of the year. Hopefully this year won’t start off the same way.

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  • Lukey DeSchennion

    @ gunner_36:
    look at pitts D the year they won and pick their 3rd best

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  • Lukey DeSchennion

    @ djamon:
    if i was able to blackmail someone i could
    maybe it could be my make a wish

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  • lukethenuke

    Hopefully Schenn equaled his conditioning by strengthening his core and legs equal to his upper body where you can put on weight easily. If so, the added weight will not make him sluggish because he strenghened his core and legs to carry himself. Hard to explain but hope you get it.

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  • gunner_36

    Lukey DeSchennion wrote:

    @ gunner_36:
    look at pitts D the year they won and pick their 3rd best

    Rob Scuderi. But Pittsburgh won more on offense, plus some great goaltending.
    Nidermayer>>>>>>Gonchar
    Pronger>>>>>>>>>Orpik
    Beauchemin>>>>Scuderi

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    lukethenuke wrote:

    Hopefully Schenn equaled his conditioning by strengthening his core and legs equal to his upper body where you can put on weight easily. If so, the added weight will not make him sluggish because he strenghened his core and legs to carry himself. Hard to explain but hope you get it.

    Weight gain in hockey is definitely all about your core.

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  • gunner_36

    @ lukethenuke:
    I hate that whole thinking part. Once I know what I’m doing, I can do it. But if I have to come up with something to write about, I take forever.

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  • gunner_36

    danvertising wrote:

    lukethenuke wrote:
    Hopefully Schenn equaled his conditioning by strengthening his core and legs equal to his upper body where you can put on weight easily. If so, the added weight will not make him sluggish because he strenghened his core and legs to carry himself. Hard to explain but hope you get it.
    Weight gain in hockey is definitely all about your core muscles.

    Crosby

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  • http://checkingfrombehind.com danvertising

    Then again, 20 pounds for a growing 20 year old frame is not all that concerning. Especially one who is working out every day for several months.

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  • rustynail

    gunner_36 wrote:

    I hate that whole thinking part

    quote of the day. lol

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  • http://twitter.com/MLHS_RSWilliams Richard-Steven Williams

    @ rustynail:

    To be fair I listed nagging knee problems in my first comment. I just remember plays were his speed seemed to effect his positioning, if that was his knee so be it… I just wonder where they expect his weight to top out?

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  • rustynail

    @ Richard-Steven Williams:
    You definitely did.

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  • http://twitter.com/MLHS_RSWilliams Richard-Steven Williams

    Just got my media accreditation for the Rookie Tournament in time to see that I’m probably financially unable to attend because of my wedding… oh well, y’all got Derek and I really can’t complain about wedding costs (I’d be on the couch and not the good one either.)

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  • Naz

    Derek Harmsworth, awsome post. Although I am not one to pay attention solely to stats when measuring a players competence (althought obviously I should), the numbers you present in this article are extremely positive. I’ve always defended Schenn against my friends who are all Habs fans (I was born into an entirely french – pro Quebec community, therefore not my fault), so this article accompanied by very realistic and up to date stats supports my argument. Unfortunately, I am not intelligent (or willing) enough to come up with stats that are this complete, specific and relevant to make a solid argument favoring Schenn. But to use common instincts and a good old “I’m a Leafs fan, fuck y’all…I know what I’m talkin about…gimme another rye and coke” approach….I think Schenn is the real deal.

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  • Naz

    @ Richard-Steven Williams:

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    First off, congratz on your “media accreditation”……secondly, congratz on your wedding….( dont show this to your wife…the truth hurts).

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    If you’re gonna sleep on the couch, at least put your pants on and pick the “comfortable” one

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  • http://twitter.com/MLHS_RSWilliams Richard-Steven Williams

    @ Naz:

    The only way either couch would ever be comfortable was if I was about 2 foot shorter (and I’m only 5’7″ to start)…

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  • Meanstreak

    gunner_36 wrote:
    Schenn has knee problems?

    Fat people usually do……jk

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  • rockydundas

    @ Richard-Steven Williams:
    A couple of blogs ago, I asked you about the Rum Runner in Birmingham…didn’t have a chance to get back online and have no idea if you answered…or if you even saw the question!!! Come to think of it…I hope it was you!!!

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  • Naz

    @ Richard-Steven Williams:

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    I never meant to comment on your height, all i’m saying is that if your wife is cool enough (which she must be since you married her) to let you CHOOSE the couch you can sleep on….you’ve got it made

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    In all seriousness (if thats even a word..?), congratz on both accomplishments. I bought and read all of the Maple Leafs Annual…and I hope you guys keep it up…..I honestly do not know how I would get by my work days without you’re people’s insight. Keep it up and thanks!

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  • Odd Man Rush

    Schenn puttin on more weight that’s sad he’s slow aready now he’s over weight
    just another pilon….

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  • gunner_36

    I just came up with a good idea. I there’s some sort of Habs forum, we all get an account and post crap about the Habs and tell all of their fans that they suck and get em all pissed off.
    But then I realized that a bunch of pissed off Habs fans would probably start coming here and ruining this beautiful site.

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