MLHS FanPost – “A True Schenn-derella Story”

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It’s time for another MLHS FanPost, DefenceWinsChampionships stops in again and this time takes a closer look at the stats of Maple Leafs defender Luke Schenn, and how those stats stand up beside comparable players.

A True Schenn-derella Story

By Byron Nelson (aka: DefenceWinsChampionships)

Anyone that remembers my last fan post: “A Comparison of the Toronto Maple Leafs’ Defensemen”, will already be well-aware of my love of statistics. In that specific piece of writing, I took a look at the 2009/10 season stats for each current member of the Toronto Maple Leafs’ defensive corps. I then used the information I had gathered to make a comparison between them. What was a surprise to many, was the amazing amount of success young blue-liner Luke Schenn seemed to have, finishing in 1st place in the statistical comparison, despite supposedly suffering from the dreaded “sophomore slump” during the season. As a result of this, I decided to do a follow-up fan post on Schenn, this time comparing him to some of the NHL’s elite defensive defensemen.

For this experiment, I used a group of eight players: Luke Schenn, Brent Seabrook, Robyn Regehr, Anton Volchenkov, Zybinek Michalek, Brooks Orpik, Andy Sutton, and finally, the sophomore version of Brent Seabrook. I included Seabrook’s sophomore self due to the fact that he is highly regarded as arguably the best defensive defenseman in the National Hockey League. I wanted to see where he was at statistically, while being at the same level of development Schenn is currently at.

For my comparison, I used five different statistical categories: Goals per 60 minutes of ice-time, (G/60), Assists per 60 minutes of ice-time, (A/60), Hits per 60 minutes of ice-time, (H/60), Blocked-shots per 60 minutes of ice-time, (BS/60), and Takeaway/Giveaway Ratio, (G/T). In attempt to curve the results, rather than just seeing which player was the best in every category, I added up each player’s numbers, (in each category), to get a total value for each of the categories. I would then get a player’s percentage of the total of each stat, thus giving credit to players that are well above the pack in any given category. For example, if Player A has an A/60 of 1.00, while Player B sits at 0.50 in the same category, Player A’s %G/60 would be 66.67%, due to 1.00/(1.00+0.50) equaling 0.6667.

Here are the statistical results:

Player Age Season %G/60 %A/60 %H/60 %BS/60 %T/G Total%

Luke Schenn 20 2nd 20.18% 11.11% 14.84% 11.78% 14.44% 72.35%

Andy Sutton 34 12th 17.54% 06.79% 15.31% 18.80% 10.16% 70.20%

Brent Seabrook 24 5th 11.40% 17.70% 13.12% 11.44% 14.97% 68.63%

Anton Volchenkov 27 7th 15.79% 09.26% 13.20% 17.58% 10.96% 66.79%

Brooks Orpik 29 6th 07.02% 19.34% 19.86% 10.81% 09.09% 66.12%

Zybinek Michalek 26-27 5th 09.65% 10.70% 05.60% 12.79% 18.72% 62.25%

Soph. Brent Seabrook 21 2nd 12.28% 14.61% 09.92% 10.38% 11.76% 58.95%

Robyn Regehr 29 10th 06.14% 10.49% 08.15% 06.25% 09.89% 40.92%

Notice how Schenn sits at the very top of the list, and is one of only two players to have double-digit percentage values in each one of the categories. He’s also the youngest player, and has significantly less experience than everyone else, except for the sophomore version of Brent Seabrook, whom Schenn

absolutely destroyed in this comparison. Note that I used the age that each player was for the majority of the season, not their current age. (Michalek turned 27 in January, so I couldn’t choose 26 or 27 alone) You also should keep in mind that Schenn was on the worst team, and that Seabrook and Orpik were playing on teams that may have inflated their offensive statistics, especially Seabrook, who spent a far greater amount of time on the powerplay than anyone else in this comparison.

Pretty surprising numbers if you ask me. Luke Schenn, the 20-year-old, sophomore defenseman, beats out all of his elite competition in this statistical comparison. Am I going to come right out and say that Schenn is better than all of these players? No, I’m not. But he definitely is a lot better than he has been given credit for by the fans and media in Toronto. His sophomore slump seems to have been merely a fabrication by the media as a result of his slow start to the season, in which he looked worse than he actually was, due to being left “hung out to dry” on his off-hand side of the ice by a oft-pinching Francois Beauchemin.

After a solid second NHL season, Luke Schenn is coming into a contract year, and has apparently been working very hard this offseason, having bulked up to a rather impressive 235 pounds. He got better as the season went on last year, especially after the arrival of Dion Phaneuf, and will be another year older, at 21, for the majority of the season. He is definitely poised for a great year, and will hopefully both continue experiencing, and continuously build upon the upward progress he encountered last season. This is definitely a player to be excited about Leafs Nation.

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  • Meanstreak

    @ gunner_36:

    I wouldn’t do that.They might track you down, kidnap you and force you to eat poutine.

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  • 2 Minutes for Looking so Guru

    I was drinking and watching Leafs games from this season on Leafs TV. It’s easier to watch individual players and what they do when you aren’t freaking out praying for goals lol

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  • http://twitter.com/MLHS_RSWilliams Richard-Steven Williams

    @ rockydundas:

    Bit before my time, it was demolished when I was 2, like all of Birmingham’s best music establishments. The Mermaid where a lot of Birmingham’s biggest metal and punk bands played is now a hotel or something… ugh. I know my dad went to the Rum Runner he was a fan of a lot of the bands who played there like Duran Duran, UB40 and The Beat.
    You ever come about the place?

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  • mitch92

    Schenn is as close to untouchable with the Leafs as anyone other than Phaneuf. When Schenn was drafted it signalled the beginning of the rebuild. There is a reason why Burke did not tempt fate by trading Schenn to move up the draft last year when he coveted John Tavares. Tavares may turn into a franchise player for the Islanders over the next few years but Schenn is equally if not more valuable to the Leafs. Burke knows that building a winning team begins from the back end out. Defencemen and goaltenders will take you places that a primadonna goalscoring forward will not. That is why Burke prioritized not only building the back end but also stocking the cupboards with blue chip prospects that will develop with the team. Once the defense was solid and the goaltending was upgraded Burke began focus his attention to building the offence. Part of the thinking is that if you can’t score you better be able to prevent the other team from scoring. Once you learn to stop the other team consistently then scoring becomes easier for your team, especially when you bring in some talent such as Kessel, Bozak, Versteeg, Kadri and D’Amigo. Now the last pieces need to be acquired or developed to take the offense to the next level; one or two big, tough, skilled forwards who can make life difficult for opposition goalies and defencemen and create room for the smaller skill players to work their magic. They also need to be able to drop the mitts from time to time because Brown, Orr, Rosehill and Armstrong will not be on the ice with the top two lines very often. Kulemin is pretty big but he does not fit the power forward mold and he is certainly not a fighter. Caputi, Irwin and Mueller could develop into those players from within but we need to acquire a veteran to show the kids the ropes.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMDGrC7-dig&feature=search

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  • Stanley goes to White Kessel

    I was initially concerned about Schenn loading on the pounds too, but then I figured that he’s still growing and if the trainers are overseeing his routine, he should be fine. They are hockey-focused experts – how could they not know he needs to work on speed, lateral movement and explosiveness if we all know it and Luke himself knows it. It is not rocket science to train for those elements over pure mass. Just like others have said it is core work and leg strength (just like Caputi said he was working on).
    All Luke has to do is watch that Olympics commercial over and over where Phaneuf is dry land training and running with that chute behind his back (shot when they thought he would make the Olympic team).

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  • Stanley goes to White Kessel

    And let’s kill the Lupul rumours, please. ‘Back’ in-action:

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=331491

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  • Leafslifer

    this is what i would like to see more out of Kulemin. if he does this little more often and score around 25 goals. we have a great first line player.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJDaFaIwXGA

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  • Peeler

    http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Richard-Cloutier/Updates/131/29865. – Tomas Kaberle Update…the Oilers could perhaps be involved in a three-way deal between Toronto and the LA Kings. What the Oilers would want out of the deal is a young defenseman (one of Thomas Hickey and Colten Teubert), and the Kings would be getting Kaberle, in part because Matt Greene looks to be out of a while (although they are different types of d-men, the Kings have a need for a veteran). What TO would get out of the deal would be assets from Edmonton – Think a young forward and a 2nd round draft pick.

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    Oh Lordy

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  • Jordan

    @ Stanley goes to White Kessel:
    There were never rumours about Lupul. People here just blew things way out of proportion. He got hurt and now is better. Scored 10 goals in 23 games last year, that’s pretty sick

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  • Jordan

    Pretty sure Kaberle will be a Leaf. No reason to think otherwise. If LA wanted him the had almost 2 months

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  • peterbleafs

    Jordan wrote:

    Pretty sure Kaberle will be a Leaf. No reason to think otherwise. If LA wanted him the had almost 2 months

    ABsolutely, the guys on here who keep dreaming up deals are wasting their time. Deal time is over, unless one falls in Burkes lap. He will not make any more moves until well into training camp or in the early season.

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  • lonsmos2

    peterbleafs wrote:

    Jordan wrote:
    Pretty sure Kaberle will be a Leaf. No reason to think otherwise. If LA wanted him the had almost 2 months
    ABsolutely, the guys on here who keep dreaming up deals are wasting their time. Deal time is over, unless one falls in Burkes lap. He will not make any more moves until well into training camp or in the early season.

    I agree and I have no problem going in with what we have and give them some games just to see what we’ve got internally.

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  • Loric

    http://www.blogesalming.com/2010/08/return-of-hack.html
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    lol not bad…kinda annoying but funny.

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  • B Leaf

    Good article DefenceWins,
    Slightly slanted, but the overall point is true. Schenn had a few off games last year, but overall his season was decent. Traditionally top picks that come to the league at 19 or 20 break out in there third or fourth year. At some point this year we are likely to see a Schenn that is better than anything we have seen yet. The 235 lbs makes him strong, I hope his speed isn’t effected. The one part of his game that needs work the most is his speed. If he could become faster he could do alot more offensively. If Schenn has improved his speed and put on more muscle he could really be a very scary defender. With Phaneuf and Gunnarsson we have a fairly young core for a good defence for a long time. Right now the problem is Kaberle. We need to solidify our back end and stop the years of being bottom in the league for goals allowed. Sending Kaberle out there for 20 minutes a night gives good opposition opportunities they shouldn’t have. We do need a puck mover but not one like Kaberle. Phaneuf, Schenn, and Gunnarsson will have to deliver the mail to the forwards. Next year we can look at what is available in the UFA market to see if there is a good, affordable puck mover who knows how to play in his own end, that is under 27. Oh, how about Whitey?

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  • lonsmos2

    I think Schenn actually did quite well after the RW experiment of trying him on his off side at the start of the year stopped.

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