More than meets the eye with latest cuts

by on October 5, 2010 in Analysis - 447 Comments

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It’ll probably be labeled as a “typical Leafs fan” debate given their status as lower roster players but there has been a number of questions arising out of yesterday’s demotion of Christian Hanson and Luca Caputi in favour of John Mitchell and Tim Brent… and rightfully so, in my opinion, given the “earn your spot mentality” conveyed by Leafs brass and that both followed the off-season regimens recommended to them and came into camp by storm looking bigger, faster, stronger and more dynamic offensively.

While it’s too early to judge, I am not saying the decisions to originally sign either player in John Mitchell or Brett Lebda were wise; in the cap sense and numerically, both signings have me wondering, particularly in Lebda’s case. It’s hard to see where Burke arrived at the need for someone of Lebda’s ilk and price tag unless better offers were assumed to be incoming for Tomas Kaberle. But the decision made by coach Wilson yesterday, forgetting arguments about the off-season decisions and shifting to training camp and preseason, can be understood:

  • John Mitchell was signed as an unrestricted free agent. He was left to enter the market as an RFA after the qualifying offer was deemed too pricey, but this doesn’t mean the Leafs or Mitchell’s camp didn’t explore other options. In this sense, the same logic of respecting a signed free agent’s right to an opportunity and upholding organizational reputation apply as they do in Lebda’s case. While roster spots aren’t absolute guarantees, Mitchell signed that one-way contract 1) expecting he’d see regular season opportunity with the big club and a sufficient chance to prove his worth; 2) assuming he would not promptly leave the city he signed in before the regular season even began, as might have been the case if he was passed through waivers.
  • We have not see the last of Christian Hanson this year or potentially this month. Reports have suggested he is still healing from a short-term injury and the Leafs were above the cap with Jeff Finger sticking around as an extra body on defence (with Lebda being injured as well). And yes, he is waiver ineligible; while the two-way contract has been referenced by some as the reason why, it’s amount of experience and not his two-way contract status that makes him exempt (one-way versus two-way  distinction strictly speaks to NHL versus AHL salary differences). Burke referenced the “chiwawa leash” Mitchell and Finger (presumably) are currently playing on, so I don’t expect it will be long before Hanson is back up with the big club.
  • One can understand Burke’s reasoning about evaluating a player’s “body of work” when making roster decisions at this juncture. Rewarding a youth’s strong camp is important and was no doubt acknowledged in the form of praise from the coach and general manager to the player. But at the same time you must evaluate who has been there before when the games start mattering. Mitchell’s inconsistent past and especially poor camp test this logic but when you factor in the first point, it all starts to make a bit more sense.
  • Luca Caputi stands to gain from increased minutes in the AHL. Where Hanson’s ceiling/niche seems to be the third line centre position that was up for grabs at camp, Caputi wouldn’t figure to see much ice time or powerplay time in particular with the Leafs. Working on his net presence on the PP and playing in more vital situations and minutes with the Marlies should help along Caputi’s development, not hurt it. And again, we could see him before long.
  • To be clear, I don’t blame fans for looking back at Burke’s oft-repeated mantra about earning your spot or there being no gimme spots on this roster anymore and smelling some hypocrisy. But you’re never going to say the opposite, either -  is Burke going to say that Mitchell was going to get a shot because he signed him to a new contract over the summer, or that “I never should have signed Lebda?” Burke wants to instill that mentality but he also has to take into account other factors that were at play.
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  • Jordan

    I want everyone to hear this prediction. Everyone keeps talking about how you only win by “drafting”. Well IMO L.A. Will suck balls this year. Let’s see what happens

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  • canucksnaphook

    @ Jordan:

    Agreed they are fucked.

    Love Schenn on the team tho.

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  • rustynail

    capgeek

    #nhl #njdevils will be just below the cap on opening day with 22-man roster, including LTIR for Salmela and Salvador http://bit.ly/c2P3Pt

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  • chef223

    What the fuck is wrong with Wilson?, he strips Kaberle of the A, and gives one to Beauchemin and Komisarek? Mike does not deserve an A, he takes too many stupid penalties and hasn’t had a full season yet in the blue and white. The more I see from Wilson the more I honestly dislike him.

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  • Hockeystudent23

    Anyone know if guys like Bozak and Gunnarsson will stick with 42 and 36 or will they get new numbers this year?

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  • Bob is your uncle

    Kaberle – 158 shots last year. Pronger – 175 shots, tops all Flyer defensemen. That’s a difference of about 1 shot every 5 games. Big deal. And they don’t have anyone close to Phaneuf. (225 shots – CAL/TOR)
    Drew Doughty – 142 shots, top LA D-man.

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  • moimoi28

    @ rustynail:
    I’m not sure this is actually right. Cause if you fill up there roster with league minimum guy’s to make it a 20 man roster(taking salmela and salvador out). It only leave’s them with just over $100,000 in cap space. And according to this it’s with a 22 man roster. Of course somehow someway team’s alway’s manage to slip under the cap. So it very well could be “true”

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  • Bob is your uncle

    Hockeystudent23 wrote:

    Anyone know if guys like Bozak and Gunnarsson will stick with 42 and 36 or will they get new numbers this year?

    Bozak said he liked #42 and would probably keep it.

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  • http://www.mapleleafshotstove.com Schenn

    For all those people on here that thought it was the end of the world because Rosehill was put on waivers, you can all breath a sigh of relief and him and Richmond both cleared waivers and will report to the Marlies.
    On other waiver wire news, the Islanders have claimed Michael Grabner from the Panthers and Tampa Bay claimed Mattias Ritola off waivers from the Red Wings.

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  • Scotchy

    @ Bob is your uncle:
    Bob is your uncle wrote:

    Hockeystudent23 wrote:
    Anyone know if guys like Bozak and Gunnarsson will stick with 42 and 36 or will they get new numbers this year?
    Bozak said he liked #42 and would probably keep it.

    I sure hope he does..Just got my Bozak alternate in the mail. Gotta support my hometown boy.

    Living the dream..

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  • http://www.mapleleafshotstove.com Schenn

    Wow, this place is dead tonight. I guess everybody is resting up for Thursday night!!

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  • Bob is your uncle

    Scotchy wrote:

    @ Bob is your uncle:
    Bob is your uncle wrote:
    Hockeystudent23 wrote:
    Anyone know if guys like Bozak and Gunnarsson will stick with 42 and 36 or will they get new numbers this year?
    Bozak said he liked #42 and would probably keep it.
    I sure hope he does..Just got my Bozak alternate in the mail. Gotta support my hometown boy.
    Living the dream..

    Hey, that’s great. A couple of days ago I was thinking the same thing. A Bozak alternate sounds just about right. Are you from Regina?

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  • TuckerThomas

    I’ve had that stupid Transformers theme in my head ever since this blog went up.
    Transformers. Robots in disguise.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AIFoBRIny0

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  • Cameron

    Schenn wrote:

    For all those people on here that thought it was the end of the world because Rosehill was put on waivers, you can all breath a sigh of relief and him and Richmond both cleared waivers and will report to the Marlies.
    On other waiver wire news, the Islanders have claimed Michael Grabner from the Panthers and Tampa Bay claimed Mattias Ritola off waivers from the Red Wings.

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    Man, I love when I’m right. When Grabner was first placed on waivers, I said that the Islanders would take him – that’s awesome. I mean, they’ll still suck balls this year, but Grabner is the Schremp of the 2011 season.

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  • http://cartika.com Andrew R
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  • Dan hockey fan

    Maybe all the fans that act like they are going to commit suicide when someone criticizes Burke will take a breather, calm down and think before commenting. If Burke gives himself a failing grade many who have criticized have been right.
    It is too bad Wilson wouldn’t take the same humility pill as Burke and admit some of his failures, but that isn’t happening. Everytime he opens his mouth, he shows he thinks it is all about him. He is acting like someone who has total disregard for their own job security. I don’t think Burke has placed him on a short leash yet. It will be interesting to see what comes out of his mouth when Burke does.

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