No Really Boston, Thank You

by on October 29, 2010 in Opinion - 299 Comments

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As the chant of ‘Thank you Kessel’ rang through my ears while watching the Toronto Maple Leafs take on the Boston Bruins last night I could not help but feel the need to comment on how ridiculous that cheer actually was.  Ok, I know they were just attempting to be clever but are they really all that thankful that a guy with 37 goals in his past 78 games is not on their team anymore?

For those curious Kessel’s goal pace since joining Toronto is actually the best mark of his career, without Marc Savard.  Imagine he still had a legitimate playmaking centre or a stronger winger riding shotgun?  That is not meant to offend Matt Stajan, Mikael Grabovski, John Mitchell, Tyler Bozak etc but none of them have the proven track record or playmaking ability a guy like Marc Savard has.

But for a win now team like Boston that was second to dead last in scoring in the 2009-10 season (eight less goals than the Leafs actually) what good were Tyler Seguin and Jared Knight (player used with the Leafs second round pick) for them when they were in desperate need of goals on countless nights last year?  They certainly could have used Kessel in the midst of blowing a 3-0 series lead against the Philadelphia Flyers in their playoff series last season, a shameful, embarrassing defeat and black eye for the city of Boston.

Last season the trade was essentially a lose-lose for both teams as the Leafs with Kessel finished second last and missed a chance to add two good youngsters in the draft while the Bruins without Kessel were one of the worst offensive teams in hockey who definitely could’ve used him in their playoff run.  The common thread was how bad the trade looked for Toronto and how Boston totally ripped us off and made out like a bandit.  If you feel this wasn’t necessarily a great move for the Leafs (which many people have), fine, but you have to call it a bad trade for the Bruins as well looking how last season transpired.

However moving forward and early into the new 2010/11 season it appears Phil Kessel is a man on a mission.  He looks quicker, stronger, better conditioned and more determined to have a huge offensive season for the Leafs and as mentioned above now has 37 goals in 78 career games with the Maple Leafs – a pretty impressive statistic.

Tyler Seguin while an extremely promising prospect is currently on a Bruins checking line and Jared Knight is with the London Knights in the OHL.  Besides, if Claude Julien has his way the Bruins will play with 5 skaters in front of their net the entire game and it will be pretty hard for a player with Seguin’s skill set to ever truly maximize his scoring and offensive potential with a fairly stifling defensive system he [Julien] prefers to utilize.

By the end of 2010/11 it will be Leafs/Kessel 50+ goals to the Bruins/Seguin 15 goals and if the Leafs can continue to hang tough this season and keep that next first round draft pick out of the top 8-10 picks, there will be only one more thing to say (or chant), “Thank You Bruins”.

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  • Doorman

    @ DefenseWinsChampionships:
    I would like to see Parise in a leaf uniform. I hope Burke can do it without selling the farm!

    Dion Deal # 2 coming up!

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  • Cameron

    Yea, but none of those teams have shown any interest in making a move like this. St.Louis actually has very little talent on the farm, and could not afford to part with what they have on the main club. I strongly doubt that Edmonton would trade any of their young guns for Parise right now – offense is not going to be a problem for them, so why bother? Nashville has lots of cap space, but they rely on paying 19-22 year old prospects less than 800K, and having them contribute in key roles. They can’t afford to give up 4 of those pieces, and then still pay Parise 8 million dollars. It’s just not feasible for them. Atlanta, the Islanders, come one, Parise’s not going to resign with teams like that – he’ll sit on his restricted free agency just like Kessel did when the Predators came knocking.
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    LA is the only feasible one out there, and I just don’t see it happening. Can you see Lombardi giving up Schenn, Moller, Hickey, and either Teubert or Loktionov (essentially the equivalent of what was suggested for the Leafs), to acquire one player? He has demonstrated time and time again he won’t overpay in trades, and he won’t move his prospects. I just think this notion that other teams are lining up is completely imagined. If other teams were interested in these kind of trades, you would have seen a bunch of offer sheets thrown out this summer when guys like Bobby Ryan, James Neal, and several others were sitting in free agency for months. All of these same teams could have kept all their prospects, and traded a 1st, 2nd and 3rd for Ryan or Neal if that’s what they were into. Do you see what I’m saying, or am I out to lunch here?

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  • Doorman

    Tim wrote:

    @ Doorman:
    If it was a pure salary dump, they bury someone, or offer a guy like Langdenbrunner for a third-fourth and we bury someone for them.

    There is more to it then just that. Next years contract. Prob. in the room. They are hurtin for prospects and young starters, and including goal. I think we have the pieces to get her done.
    Burke knows lou better then most. There is no rape here but; NJ is a Hurtiin unit. IMO!

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  • Burtonboy

    Doorman wrote:

    Tim wrote:
    @ Doorman:
    If it was a pure salary dump, they bury someone, or offer a guy like Langdenbrunner for a third-fourth and we bury someone for them.
    There is more to it then just that. Next years contract. Prob. in the room. They are hurtin for prospects and young starters, and including goal. I think we have the pieces to get her done.
    Burke knows lou better then most. There is no rape here but; NJ is a Hurtiin unit. IMO!

    Well lets give them a helping hand

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  • Tim

    Doorman wrote:

    @ DefenseWinsChampionships:
    I would like to see Parise in a leaf uniform. I hope Burke can do it without selling the farm!
    Dion Deal # 2 coming up!

    A Dion deal I am completely open to, just don’t think Lou is as dumb as Sutter. By they way did you hear Stagan has 8 pts. in 8 gms. LMAO…..fuck me people can really ruin your day.

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  • Cameron

    @ DefenseWinsChampionships:
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    He’s also playing on the 4th line, and is likely being sent to London sooner or later – he’s just getting a taste of playing with men. Cormier is a dirty piece of shit that Jersey tossed away to wash their hands of. He was hardly a standout in the Q, and is one of the most embarassing captains our Junior team has ever seen. His upside is as a checking center man. D’Amigo is far better.
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    Right now, I’d take MacArthur over Bergfors. He had a good year last year, but obviously neither the Devils or the Thrashers thought he was likely repeat – one traded him and the other wasn’t prepared pay him more than 800K to resign. He’s already been benched twice this year for poor play (granted, he has stepped it up after returning though). Still. you know I respect your opinion DWC, but on this one, I think this is an example of you reading stat sheets and making a decision. MacArthur is the better player from what I have seen of them, even if Bergfors has slightly better potential.
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    @ Doorman:
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    Jersey isn’t hurting that bad. They do have Vasyunov, Tedenby and Josefson coming up – all of whom are likely to be sure fire NHL’ers. THey also have Corrente on defense, although it hardly matters, since they like to run a veteran D anyways. They could use goalei depth though…

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  • Cameron

    @ DefenseWinsChampionships:
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    Also, the Devils have a ton of cap room now. They’ve got Rolston (5.0625) and Salvador (2.9) on LTIR. They are saving tons of money every day because they replaced those guys with Corrente (0.875), and Josefson (0.875).

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  • Tim

    @ Cameron:
    But you have no problem trowing the same players you mention into other deals, yet they won’t use these guys to land a elite forward? You can’t have it both ways Cameron.

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  • Doorman

    @ Cameron:
    I was thinking about prospects that could play now like Hanson, Caputi, and Reimer. Gunner.
    Their roster is just a tad short. Maybe Bozac. I could live with that.

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  • Doorman

    @ Doorman;

    Your Mission today is to go to the Beer Store. Do not come home empty handed.
    That is All!

    Ok! Im on it!

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  • Tim

    Doorman wrote:

    @ Doorman;
    Your Mission today is to go to the Beer Store. Do not come home empty handed.
    That is All!
    Ok! Im on it!

    LOL…have one for me bud….make it 6….cheers!

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  • Tim

    Doorman wrote:

    Tim wrote:
    @ Doorman:
    If it was a pure salary dump, they bury someone, or offer a guy like Langdenbrunner for a third-fourth and we bury someone for them.
    There is more to it then just that. Next years contract. Prob. in the room. They are hurtin for prospects and young starters, and including goal. I think we have the pieces to get her done.
    Burke knows lou better then most. There is no rape here but; NJ is a Hurtiin unit. IMO!

    But with the names mentioned, could we add say a Carter and Backes? I would do that instead of putting all my eggs in one basket.

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  • Cameron

    @ DefenseWinsChampionships:
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    Johnson is terrible. I wouldn’t even trade Gunnarsson for him. If they want to do Johnson for Parise, they can. Worst defensive defensemen in the NHL. He’s also not PMD defensemen. He’s a great PPQB, and a halfway decent puck rushing D, but his passes are not PMD calibre. Not that it matters for this argument, I just personally think the overhype Johnson gets is hilarious. Stralman is better than him in pretty much every statisticaly category, yet if Anton was still a Leaf, and someone suggested Stralman + for Parise, he’d be laughed off the internet.

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  • long_suffering_leaf_fan

    Fuck Marlies down 2-1 in the 2nd … I just don’t get it, on paper they look great.
    .
    On a positive note, Kadri has the lone goal so far.

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  • Doorman

    Doorman wrote:

    @ Doorman;
    Your Mission today is to go to the Beer Store. Do not come home empty handed.
    That is All!
    Ok! Im on it!

    Mission Accomplished! lol.

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  • Doorman

    Tim wrote:

    Doorman wrote:
    Tim wrote:
    @ Doorman:
    If it was a pure salary dump, they bury someone, or offer a guy like Langdenbrunner for a third-fourth and we bury someone for them.
    There is more to it then just that. Next years contract. Prob. in the room. They are hurtin for prospects and young starters, and including goal. I think we have the pieces to get her done.
    Burke knows lou better then most. There is no rape here but; NJ is a Hurtiin unit. IMO!
    But with the names mentioned, could we add say a Carter and Backes? I would do that instead of putting all my eggs in one basket.

    That sounds better to me. I like Backes!

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