Marlies Challenge, Mitchell’s Opportunity

by on November 11, 2010 in Leafs Prospects, Toronto Marlies - 162 Comments

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On Tuesday it was announced Ryan Hamilton will miss 4-6 weeks with a knee injury. And so it starts… again.

Devastated by injuries and call-ups last season, the Marlies failed to make the playoffs for only the second time since the AHL club returned to Toronto. 425 man games lost. That equates to a 5.3 players sitting out each and every game of a 80 game season – so let’s say, five and a backup goaltender.

Already this season the Marlies have seen talented forwards Christian Hanson and Luca Caputi get the call up to the show, as well as physical defenceman Korbinian Holzer. Ryan Hamilton joins Simon Gysbers and Danny Richmond in the press box, all suffering from separate ailments. All this is on top of Jay Rosehill, Alex Foster and James Reimer who had already spent time on the day-to-day list.

“Unfortunately Ryan [Hamilton] went down with an injury a few games ago and we’re playing with a couple of the guys out of the lineup who played key roles,” said Dale Mitchell, the Etobicoke native who was drafted by the Leafs in the third round of the 2007 draft.

Hamilton’s injury however has meant Mitchell has drawn into the lineup in a full time role on a line with Captain Alex Foster and Brayden Irwin.

“My job right now is to be a pest and an energy guy out there – to draw penalties, to get under the other team’s skin with driving the net, little things like that, little chirps here and there,” expressed the winger in a telephone conversation before the Marlies game in Glens Falls versus the Phantoms.

Mitchell always had a knack for chirping, his 354 penalties minutes over four and a half years in the OHL can attest to that, but the Marlies energetic agitator has a lot more to offer than just a skilled tongue. Mitchell three times crested the 30 goal plateau in junior, and produced at a rate greater than a point per game in all but his rookie OHL season.

“I was counted on offensively in junior and here we have our offensive guys, but that doesn’t stop me from putting the puck in the net or creating points or offensive chances, it’s just now i’m not as relied on as i was in junior,” expressed Mitchell, who currently has three assists over his six games with the Marlies.

Not many players are gifted with the on-ice gab as well as the scoring touch. Sean Avery, made famous by his antics, has never bettered 39 points in a NHL season.

“In practice i have to do the extra things to maintain those abilities and at the same time also working hard every shift to maybe get that opportunity on the powerplay or the top line,” Mitchell offered when speaking about his unique skill-set, but then added, “one day.”

Mitchell’s ‘one day’ may very well be ‘some day soon.’

With the casualties suffered last season, Marlies fans saw the emergence of Justin Hodgman, an undrafted centre who was deep down in . With a little attention, some conditioning and the proper guidance, Hodgman has blossomed into the team’s top centre on a line with Kadri and D’Amigo, and ranked second on the team in points.

With every challenge comes opportunity. The cliche may be overused, but it doesn’t make it any less true. With three called up and three more injured, the Marlies are indeed faced with a challenge. But with this challenge has come the opportunity for Dale Mitchell.

It’s left up to Dale to decide what he’s going to do with it.

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  • peteypuck

    See, I want to dump anybody who is a big ticket and will likely be retired by the time the Leafs can contend to win it all. To compare a healthy Lupol to Mitchell is laughable. The guy was a top level power forward before he was hurt. He may be younger than Mitchell, around his age anyway. If he can play like he did before, I trade him for a pick.

    If he can’t play, so what? We’ve dumped a D man and his salary because that D man won’t be any good when we are ready to make a deep playoff run. If we have to pay Lupol to stay on a beach instead of being able to play, so what? It’s a straight salary dump at worst, so I expect Murray to kick in a decent pick. He is handcuffed to an internal budget, his owner doesn’t want to pay Lupol to go hang out in Malibu. All we do is take a shot. He doesn’t count against our cap either. The more decent players we dump now, the more futures we can accumulate, and the farther down we finish where the juicy picks are. Forget next years pick and take the long view.

    I have a really short list of guys now on the Leaf’s NHL roster. They are only the guys I figure to still be useful 5 years from now. Schenn, Pheneuf, Gustuvson , Kessel, MAYBE Kulemin . And if Kessel wants stupid money when he is an FA in 3 years, I trade him a year early.

    Everybody else, it’s a fire sale, everything and everybody has to go for whatever I can get. I want at least 3 top 5 picks before I am ready to add pieces. I am happy to finish below sea level for several years so I will end up with a powerhouse when it is all said and done. It is the only way to get the top end talent you need to win in this league. And I don’t mean a one year fluke like Montreal, or Philly last year.
    Pittsburgh. Washington. Chicago. L A. Look at their best players and how they got them. AT THE TOP OF THE DRAFT@ Cameron:

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  • Cameron

    @ peteypuck:
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    lol, Lupul is no power forward my friend. He’s a perimeter shooter who rarely hits, and has a very poor work ethic. There’s a reason he’s been traded 4 times. His value, in comparison to Mitchell, has nothing to do with their skill levels however. You’ll notice even Simon Gagne was only worth a 7th defensemen in Matt Walker because of (a) his enormous salary, and (b) his enormous injury history. It would be the same for Lupul. No one would take him on.
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    We dump a D man so what? The so what is that he could be used to acquire a player who isn’t a pile of shit, a cap infection, and a general liability. We’re looking for trades like Ponikarovsky for Caputi here. If you want to get ready for 3-4 years down the road you don’t acquire injured mid-age players with enormous salaries. It’s just not how anyone manages right now. That’s not a salary dump at all. That’s moving a player that contributes 25 minutes a night on our roster for a player who might not even play this season, and might never regain form after a set of serious injures, and will continue to eat cap for years. It’s actually taking on salary if anything.
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    LA has taken a decade to get that team together – you want to wait a decade? They still haven’t achieved anything, after next year, they won’t be able to add anyone either. Doughty, Johnson, Simmonds, and others need resigns this summer. They are going to experience all of Chicago’s cap woes before they win anything. Washington and Pittsburgh are only 2 of about 10 teams that have tried the model you are suggesting. Those teams drafted a generational talent in Crosby and Ovechkin. There simply aren’t talents like that available every year. For every Crosby, there is a Johnson, or a Turris. You’ll never get me on board with the tank model. It’s got about a 20% of giving you a good team, and a 6% chance of winning you a Cup.

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  • peteypuck

    I think Lupol’s NT is conditional, if the Ducks finish out of the playoffs, and they did, he can be moved anywhere.@ rustynail:

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  • rustynail

    @ peteypuck:
    Yup it is during the off season and he has a list of 6 teams he can’t be traded to other than the off season.

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  • peteypuck

    So this is 2010, are we any better off than in 2000? Or 1990? Or 1980? Or 1970? Are you following me? The answer is no, so what’s your point?

    You don’t need a ‘generational talent’ to win it all. Besides, you will NEVER get a shot at a Crosby or Ovetchkin with your method.

    You can beat the “generational talents” if you do it with a group like Towes and Sharp and Kane and Bolland and Duncan and Seabrook. And then you add FA’s like Hossa and Campbell when you are ready to take a serious shot. I’ll win a cup that way before you do.

    The more high picks you have the better you will eventually become. So always trade, take on bad contracts, whatever, as to end up with more quality picks, and a team core that can contend for more than a year or 2. @ Cameron:

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  • Cameron

    @ peteypuck:
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    Yes that’s mostly true, but none of that has anything to do with taking on Lupul. You understand that Lupul is a lesser player than both Beauchemin and Kaberle, right? You also understand he’s expensive, signed long term, and would come with no picks, right? What part of that sounds like drafting high, and stockpiling top-tier talent? You’re not making any sense man.
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    I’m telling you we should be dealing guys like Beauchemin and Kaberle for young players (ie the Ponikarovsky trade), or picks and prospects, but you’re talking about taking on Joffrey Lupul. You’re contradicting yourself.

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  • peteypuck

    Lupol likes the beach so I figure Toronto is on that list. Still, make a deal if he will move. If he vetoes, hope the Ducks finish out of the playoffs then offer to eat his cash hit, throw in a couple of so so prospects and let’s say a 3rd and 4th so as to to get the contract registered by the league . We take back Lupol, a 1st and a 2nd. We are buying the picks from a team on a tight mid level CASH budget, but its all nudge nudge wink wink for appearances sake. If they want any Dman not named Phanuef or Schenn, instead of picks, that’s even better.

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  • Cameron

    @ peteypuck:
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    Those kind of deals are far-fetched and would have been more likely to happen with true albatross contracts like Redden and Huet. The value of the picks in terms of what that player provides at basically zero cost for so many years, is worth them eating Lupul’s salary on their own. The Ducks also are not nearly as cash strapped as some of the other sunbelt teams.

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  • peteypuck

    Let me clarify. You in effect are buying top picks from clubs bleeding red ink, (like there aren’t many of those) by taking on the contract of guys who may never play again. For you, anyway. Who cares, you have the picks, by saving a tightly budgeted team some money.
    If by some miracle, Lupol can come back to being a decent power forward ( I doubt that, the boy is an airhead, read his tweets) trade HIM for or package him for more picks.

    I don’t care if he ever plays again. And I go looking for other bad deals on cash strapped teams so I can do the same thing. It’s like buying up distressed properties in the States for pennies on the dollar. When everybody else is pinched, and you are flush, that’s an opportunity.

    I’m pretty sure the Sutters would hand over picks if they can get some breathing room by shipping out a veteran’s bloated contract. Maybe Edmonton ponies up to dump Sourey. They lost money last year, and will lose more this year. They need a playoff round to break even. It will never get better for them. They have no significant revenue other than ticket income, and their prices are 5th highest in the league. That’s all with a strong loonie.

    The cap isn’t the issue with most teams. The bad contract obligations are the issue for these teams teetering on the financial edge. It’s all about Bettman’s fucked up economic model. All I want to do is take advantage.

    While buying all these draft picks, I have stripped down my own club so I get a top 5 pick for at least 3 years. That’s right, I get bad for awhile so I can build a monster for later. I’m already at the bottom, so I should be able to speed the process up. I don’t have to get much worse.

    Not all these things are going to happen, and you can ‘t do a lot of them over a short period of time. The trick is, whatever lousy contracts you take on, you use the IR or the American League or send the guy to Europe, it doesn’t matter. Pay out the contract but never have him on your cap.

    See, you are MLSE, you are richer than God, and you will make it all back and more when you make the playoffs with a young powerhouse team. One Cup win should invigourate the brand revenues for decades. And you are building to contend over a minimum 5 year window.

    And at this point, if you are really sharp, you will then copy the Detroit model and stay up there as long as you can. But, to start off, where do you think the Red Wings finished to get Stevie Y? They were in the wilderness for years. @ Cameron:

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  • peteypuck

    That’s a straw man you are setting up. The Rangers and the Hawks can afford to do what the Leafs did with Finger. Of course they are not going to sell picks.

    Yes the Ducks are better off than the other moribund sun belt teams. That’s like being a cancer patient with a year to live, in a room with someone who only has 6 weeks.

    But, the Ducks have a strict budget that has nothing to do with the cap. It is well below the cap. It is in that sweet equalization spot that they and Nashville and Phoenix and most of the American franchises try to stay. Because their owners say so. No exceptions to that rule. And that is how it is with the Ducks.

    Take it to the bank.@ Cameron:

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  • Bob is your uncle

    @ John Ferguson Jr: I’m not going to argue with you over your assessment of my comments other than to be clear that they were not directed at anyone in particular nor at the ‘cynical realists’ (take that as a descriptive term, not an insult). But this incessant need to blame, blame, blame anyone and everyone after things as small as an errant pass etc. gets tiresome to this longtime fan. IMO We need to get behind the team and stay supportive. I’ve had the best experiences as a Leaf fan, including winning the Cup and of course all the bad shit. My comments may offend some, but some of the criticisms levelled at the team are offensive and unwarranted and I may weigh in on that from time to time.

    In the short term, this team probably wasn’t planning anything in player movement until 20 games or so. Anything else is too short a term and they need to give the slow starters some time to level out (like Verpukey and Prozac). Not many GMs know exactly what they’ve got or what they want till then anyway, so why the panic in Leafland? Unless something too good, drops into Burke’s lap, it’s a waiting game for him and us. Other than injury call ups, the team will try different combinations and give this group some time. After about 20 games we might see a Marlie or two rewarded with a look. Trades? Who knows what they’re working on? Last fall, someone on here said they saw Nonis taking to Sutter, at a (junior? AHL?) game out west. Maybe that’s when the Phaneuf deal became a possibility. Burke said they talked for a couple of months putting the deal together. Maybe they’re working on something now. We’ll know when it happens.
    Hate the Canucks. But beating them is a tall order. Never liked Luongo for some reason. If he starts, it would be great to break out with 4 goals in 10 minutes and chase him again.

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