State of the Nation: Skaters

by on December 15, 2010 in 2010-11 Season, Analysis - 128 Comments

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(Toronto – Gus Katsaros) I tried to put together something that leads to the state of the Leafs, but it gets pretty intense and too much for a single blog so I’ve broken it down in two. Before we move forward we should acknowledge what is happening with the current club and I do that with just some observations.

I’ve broken down what I feel are some of the more important points of the Leafs forwards and defensemen while not being entirely thorough, leaving something for future blogs. I’ll follow this up on Friday tying in the coaching, the Burke regime and vision of the team in the future.

Forwards:

  • Forwards lack size .. too small and not strong enough to compete along the walls and dirty areas .. feel their just too soft to compete physically despite the illusion of ‘truculence’ with the likes of Colton Orr and Mike Brown .. there’s not enough body in the offensive zone and not enough of a net presence – fighting in the dirty areas in front of the goal, both at even strength and the PP
  • Offensive zone cycle is non-existent, a slight derivative of the lack of size up front .. even when they do begin the cycle, it breaks down once that first forward is taken out of position or hit along the boards .. every team has to have the ability to cycle and to keep momentum, especially down low (e.g. Sundin/Antropov/Ponikarovsky were cycling beasts)
  • Leafs were winning a lot of the board battles, races to loose pucks and provided excellent support positions when hopped up on adrenaline to begin the season but stopped the small sacrifices that earned them wins .. soon they turned their back to the puck, not finishing checks not providing enough forechecking pressure to hurry opposition defense, it was too easy to move the puck up the ice the other way .. along these lines, I’ve gained a new appreciation for the forechecking efforts and smarts of Kris Versteeg .. hits a higher gear in pursuit especially when in close range, hurrying puck carriers and forcing races .. Colby Armstrong isn’t as refined here, and it shows in his return from injury
  • Leafs offense is based off the rush, getting shots to the net and following up with net presence for rebounds. This features a stop-dead play unless there is a rebound or the shot is fired wide .. too many times the play is blown dead with a goalie covering up or, alternatively, the puck ends up going the other way and forwards are now caught trying to catch back up with the play instead of in support positions.
  • Nazem Kadri should spend more time in the AHL at some point. He hasn’t been overwhelmingly impressive, but I think he deserves more credit than he generally gets for what he was when he was recalled to his NHL audition. Early struggles with the Marlies and adapting to the speed of the game were clear issues, but he’s overcome some of the mindset that permeated through him into mistakes. Mainly, he’s improved in both one-touch skills and reading/reacting to the play quicker. He seems better suited for the structured NHL game to the less system-oriented AHL. Warts aside, there is something bubbling within and it’s slowly festering into something better and I like where it’s heading.
  • Leafs forwards – aside from Phil Kessel – could very well be the NHL’s most miscast group up front. Tyler Bozak was penciled in as the number one center with number two potential and high expectations to lead the main sniper. Mikhail Grabovski and Bozak should ideally be fighting for that second line center and there’s a size issue down the middle that needs to be addressed. Armstrong, another support player is being thrust into a top-six role due to necessity .. Versteeg is a hybrid second line center that can play a grinding role and kill penalties. Nik Kulemin is progressing the fastest and best among the forwards. Kulemin is a very good individual creator, making plays out of nothing and really working hard to create turnovers. Clarke MacArthur, despite his early scoring outburst is inconsistent and remains on the perimeter to create plays when the courage isn’t peaking. The rest of the forwards are just filler. Brent, Mitchell, Brown, Orr etc, they all have roles but aren’t there to do anything than play five minutes of games

Defensemen

  • The defense is stretched between creating offense and being defensively responsible. The glaring deficiencies up front hurt the blueline who are forced to do more to help scoring, like excessive pinching and risks at the opposition blueline. The results are odd-man situations the other way and forwards caught deep not being able to make up the space – or, giving up on the play altogether.
  • I’ve considered the Leafs defense corps to be one of the better outlet passing bluelines in the NHL. Every member has a good transition pass from shallow in the zone and a long stretch pass, none better than Tomas Kaberle. However, as a unit, the Leafs do not move the puck out of the zone efficiently enough and there’s too much unnecessary East-West defensive zone passing instead of getting the puck moving North-South .. Komisarek and Beauchemin are constantly missing their intended targets and the only one seemingly progressing is Luke Schenn
  • Schenn has easily been the best blueliner in most games. He’s using his smarts to take better positions in defensive zone, despite the occasional coverage breakdown .. he’s also taken to using his stick to cover space and force players to either side .. his puck handling skills have also improved although still a work in progress .. pivots are improved, but not quicker, compensating with diligent body work and forcing players to fight through checks, no more clear space around him .. and he’s still not hit his peak.
  • Have to engage forwards standing in front of the goal more aggressively .. allow too much room in front and could be a lot more diligent in their coverage down low .. current lightning rod Mike Komisarek has been shaky all season, but the silver lining is the progression of Keith Aulie, who I believe is destined to be Komisarek’s replacement. Won’t be surprised to see him spend the rest of the season with the Marlies, and perhaps even next season, but he’ll eventually be that hard hitting, physical presence that moves bodies from in front.

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  • dlb

    @ Nights:
    to be honest i’m not familiar enough with either of them to know for sure, but i would consider it (like i said), yes

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  • lukethenuke

    Kadri, 1st, Beachemin FOR Staal
    ??

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  • Mind Bomb

    payner93 wrote:

    @ Mind Bomb:
    idk how one could pass up trading a 1st as part of a package for a proven #1 center under the age of say 30. idk how old richards is but canucksnaphook is right a bona fide is hands down better than a hopeful

    I know I personally have been pushing for Brad Richards on this these boards since the summer however he will be 31 this may and has maybe 3 more years at an elite level, he may still be an elite center at 34, 35 plus however its a chance. I would try a player plus prospect to get richards rather than the first. My original Thought was if Dallas tanks again and Dallas was broke we could kinda steal Richards. IF we get into a bidding war for a carrrer minus player the cost may be prohibitive.

    IMHO

    IMHO

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  • Jordan

    lukethenuke wrote:

    Kadri, 1st, Beachemin FOR Staal
    ??

    yes sir, I would

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  • leafslunch

    Good debate Cameron.
    Great points brought up by you guys, if the opportunity is there to land at bonafide #1 C at the expense of another draft pick (would HAVE to be 30 or under) you should look at it.
    However, of course depending on the situation, I would be very hesitant to part with more 1st rounders. It would be very nice to have picks in the next two or three 1st rounds – regardless where they slot in.

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  • canucksnaphook

    @ Jordan:

    Id be scared giving up Kadri, the kid is going to be solid.

    Id prefer to come up with smething else if we include a first.

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  • leafslunch

    .. and while on the subject, I was debating with some buds about this this past week:

    Would you offer sheet Stamkos at the expense of 4 1st rounders?

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  • Jordan

    canucksnaphook wrote:

    @ Jordan:
    Id be scared giving up Kadri, the kid is going to be solid.
    Id prefer to come up with smething else if we include a first.

    Ya but seriously, in a best case world he will become what Staal is. Remember that Burke wanted a blue chip+1st+roster player for Kaberle and he was 30. Cant deny that for Staal

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  • B Leaf

    Jordan wrote:

    lukethenuke wrote:
    Kadri, 1st, Beachemin FOR Staal
    ??
    yes sir, I would

    That deal definitely puts us in the here and now! I would have to look at it. Staal is almost the perfect fit for this team because of his size and determination.

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  • canucksnaphook

    @ Jordan:

    Id prefer the 1st, D’amigo, and Beauch.

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  • keon

    leafslunch wrote:

    .. and while on the subject, I was debating with some buds about this this past week:
    Would you offer sheet Stamkos at the expense of 4 1st rounders?

    .
    Well, Kessel cost two 1sts, so is Stamkos twice as good as Kessel?

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  • DWC

    canucksnaphook wrote:

    @ Jordan:
    Id be scared giving up Kadri, the kid is going to be solid.
    Id prefer to come up with smething else if we include a first.

    The odds of Kadri EVER becoming a superstar centerman like Eric Staal aren’t very good. It’s nothing against Kadri, but there aren’t many players as young as Staal that are THAT good. If we are lucky, Kadri will eventually become a star player. We’d have to hit the lottery for him to ever be a good as Eric Staal. If you have to include Kadri and a 1st together in a deal for Eric Staal, it should be a no-brainer.

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  • leafslunch

    Personally, I believe if I were in charge I would go after Stamkos for 4 first rounders.
    - you lock up that #1 C (a very elite #1 C) to go as your building block
    - chances further become remote that those picks become top 5, and even if they do become lottery, I haven’t heard of anyone near as good as Crosby or Stamkos coming in the next few drafts.
    - Once secured, then you go ahead and try to move whatever you can to try and recoup draft selections in the next four years.
    - I would have NO problem not picking in the 1st round as long as you still have 2-4 picks in rounds 2 to 3
    .
    .. thoughts?

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  • Cactus

    If Kessel cost two firsts and a second in his RFA year after one 36 goal season, imagine what Staal would cost. Five outstanding seasons in the NHL, brings physicality, leadership, and five more years of service before free agency. His price, assuming Carolina would ever move him, which I doubt, would be massive.

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  • leafslunch

    keon wrote:

    leafslunch wrote:
    .. and while on the subject, I was debating with some buds about this this past week:
    Would you offer sheet Stamkos at the expense of 4 1st rounders?

    .
    Well, Kessel cost two 1sts, so is Stamkos twice as good as Kessel?

    I would have to say that yes, yes he is. In fact, by that ratio, Stamkos would probably be worth 5

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  • M9

    Cactus wrote:

    If Kessel cost two firsts and a second in his RFA year after one 36 goal season, imagine what Staal would cost. Five outstanding seasons in the NHL, brings physicality, leadership, and five more years of service before free agency. His price, assuming Carolina would ever move him, which I doubt, would be massive.

    -
    Except his 8+ mil cap hit… not that Staal isn’t worth a MASSIVE package, but the market would dictate that. Considering his salary, it would limit the teams that could even fit him.

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  • lonsmos2

    leafslunch wrote:

    .. and while on the subject, I was debating with some buds about this this past week:
    Would you offer sheet Stamkos at the expense of 4 1st rounders?

    I would

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  • DWC
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  • Mind Bomb

    leafslunch wrote:

    .. and while on the subject, I was debating with some buds about this this past week:
    Would you offer sheet Stamkos at the expense of 4 1st rounders?

    I would actually trip running to sign that sheet ;)

    Peace

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  • lukethenuke

    New blog upp booyyyssss

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  • JCG

    beleive it or not…new blog up

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