Player Performance Before, Under and After Wilson

by on March 31, 2011 in Analysis - 156 Comments

Player Performance Before, Under and After Wilson
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Brian Burke‘s endorsement of Ron Wilson’s work behind the bench this season and his confirmation of Wilson’s return next season sparked some debate in the most recent comments sections. While the “talent vs. coaching” special teams debate is really tough to come to any conclusions on, below MLHS’ Cameron ran some numbers on player performance before, after and under Wilson:

The thing that drives me nuts about Wilson bashers is that they’ve long expected him to spin straw into gold, and when he produces silver, they are still outraged. Take a look at the key players Wilson has had under his command during the first two years of his duty here, and how their production changed (sometimes dramatically), under him versus other coaches. This only takes into account the timeframe after the lockout in the case of players like Antropov, Blake, and so forth:

Key: BW (Before Wilson), UW (Under Wilson), AW (After Wilson):

Antropov:
BW: 183GP, 56G, 64A, 120P, +31 (0.65PPG)
UW: 63GP, 21G, 25A, 46P, -13 (0.73PPG)
AW: 164GP, 45G, 71A, 116P, -3 (0.71PPG)

Ponikarovsky:
BW: 218GP, 60G. 58A, 118P, +26 (0.54PPG)
UW: 143GP, 42G, 60A, 102P, +11 (0.71PPG)
AW: 71GP, 7G, 17A, 24P, -4 (0.33PPG)

Blake:
BW: 240GP, 83G, 95A, 178P, -3 (0.74PPG)
UW: 134GP, 35G, 54A, 89P, -6 (0.66PPG)
AW: 97GP, 21G, 23A, 44P, -13 (0.45PPG)

Stajan:
BW: 244GP, 41G, 58A. 99P, -3 (0.41PPG)
UW: 131GP, 31G, 65A, 96P, -7 (0.73PPG)
AW: 99GP, 9G, 38A, 47P, -1 (0.47PPG)

Hagman:
BW: 248GP, 52G, 39A, 91, -3 (0.37PPG)
UW: 120GP, 42G, 33A, 75P, -8 (0.63PPG)
AW: 98GP, 16G, 22A, 38P, -3 (0.39PPG)

White:
BW: 169GP, 9G, 44A, 53P, +1 (0.31PPG)
UW: 127GP, 19G, 33A, 52P, +7 (0.41PPG)
AW: 100GP, 6G, 29A, 35P, +6 (0.35PPG)

Kubina:
BW: 209GP, 23G, 76A, 99P, 0 (0.47PPG)
UW: 82GP, 14G, 26A, 40P, -15 (0.49PPG)
AW: 149GP, 9G, 51A, 60P, +2 (0.40PPG)

Stempniak:
BW: 233GP, 57G, 73A, 130P, -15 (0.56PPG)
UW: 123GP, 25G, 36A. 61P, -19 (0.50PPG)
AW: 96GP, 31G, 22A, 53P, +15 (0.55PPG)

There is no doubt that Wilson gets the most out of his players. The only guy who has been better outside Wilson’s tutelage is Stempniak. Wilson loved Stempniak though, and I believe it was a sore spot for him that he couldn’t do more with him. Blake also slipped slightly, but that has more to do with age catching up to him than anything Wilson did. In most cases, these players went to better teams, and saw upgrades in their linemates After Wilson. It really puts into perspective what he’s done.

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  • Waiting4LSC

    @Cameron: Much appreciate this blog and your recent comments about our youth being a big part of the PP and PK problems. I have been, and to some extent, still am a Wilson detractor. I don’t get how a coach of so many years is unable to sell players on a system (using ice-time as a carrot). I don’t like the way he treated Luke or Nazem, trashing them in the media. I have also been concerned as to the number of times the team has started flat, and how they were not able to win the big games (up until this second half of the season). If our lack of experience is the main handicap, then I can see how Lups and Dion have been able to help them. I think there is also Kudos to Mac and Army for their work ethic, and also Grabs and Luke for the way they have taken their game to the next level. I feel this resurgence should be mainly credited to the players but RW must be playing a good role. With a seasoned #1 Center and perhaps an experienced PP specialist, the team should be more able to play to the RW system.

    End of ramble, I very much appreciate Bloggers’ here pointing out positive aspects of a person and letting me see them in a better light.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPiuD24JV2U 2 Minutes for Looking so Guru

    @ Cameron:
    He’s one guy I would enjoy seeing play in the AHL… such a slimey POS.

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  • Mislav Jantoljak

    Why does somebody sign with Ottawa anyway?

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  • Burtonboy

    @ Mislav Jantoljak:
    3 mil per

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  • long_suffering_leaf_fan

    Mislav Jantoljak wrote:

    Why does somebody sign with Ottawa anyway?

    Ice time … they have a lot of spots to fill lol

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  • Burtonboy

    @ Mislav Jantoljak:
    LOL I heard that floating around on twitter today. Nothing official

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  • 4evrblue

    Burtonboy wrote:

    @ Mislav Jantoljak:
    3 mil per

    is that what they signed Da Costa for? he’s expected to be in the lineup on saturday so I guess we’ll see what we did or did not miss out on

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  • long_suffering_leaf_fan

    Burtonboy wrote:

    @ Mislav Jantoljak:
    LOL I heard that floating around on twitter today. Nothing official

    Is that including bonus’?

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  • MacInMoscow

    Mislav Jantoljak wrote:

    Why does somebody sign with Ottawa anyway?

    Desperate for playing time? :)

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  • MacInMoscow

    So who is going to play “Crush the Goalie” tonight?

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  • Burtonboy

    @ long_suffering_leaf_fan:
    @ 4evrblue:
    There were rumors that he got ELC but with bonuses it was 3 mil per year. Nothing on capgeek yet so take it with a grain.

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  • MacInMoscow

    So, looks like a pre game lull.
    GOOGOOGOOLEAFSGOOGOOOGOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • 4evrblue

    Burtonboy wrote:

    @ long_suffering_leaf_fan:
    @ 4evrblue:
    There were rumors that he got ELC but with bonuses it was 3 mil per year. Nothing on capgeek yet so take it with a grain.

    wouldn’t surprise me if it were true. Bozak got 3.725 afterall

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  • MacInMoscow

    We just had our time changed. Is it 7 minutes to game time there?

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  • MacInMoscow

    OK boys, get your Nachos or whatever!

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  • 4evrblue

    MacInMoscow wrote:

    So, looks like a pre game lull.
    GOOGOOGOOLEAFSGOOGOOOGOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    we’re gonna win the last 5 of the season, then use a first and second to trade up in the draft for a very good player (dont know who yet, sorry), then sign Richards and Ehrhoff on July 1st and trade for Oshie 4 weeks later. KOBO IT!!

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  • Komas Taberle

    Burtonboy wrote:

    @ long_suffering_leaf_fan:
    @ 4evrblue:
    There were rumors that he got ELC but with bonuses it was 3 mil per year. Nothing on capgeek yet so take it with a grain.

    I don’t think teams can give out bonuses for the cap hit any more, so his salary is 3M.
    Can someone check this?

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  • 4evrblue

    @ MacInMoscow:
    that would be sweet, even if the Canes caught up with them and we helped to eliminate them I would be happy

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  • MacInMoscow

    fuck, game time tonight 7:00 or 7:30?
    Once again the NHL is pre-empted by another “more important” event. MLB fucking opening day!! If it’s not the NCAA fucking GOD DAMN TOURNAMENT!! nobody who has half a brain cares about WHAT REALLY MATTERS!

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