Leafs Patchwork: Did he really just say Alex Tanguay?

by on June 1, 2011 in Free Agency, Opinion - 338 Comments

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Call it patchwork, a desperation move, whatever you like. But there’s a very real chance that over this summer, the Toronto Maple Leafs will not be able to acquire Brad Richards, Jeff Carter, Paul Stastny, Steve Stamkos, Zach Parise, or any other name people decide to throw out there in the next few weeks.

Of course they could nab one of the names above, who knows? But it’s not far-fetched to think that Burke may have to employ a “Plan B” if he doesn’t land a prized free agent or trade target.

With everyone scrambling for the Leafs to bring a top line center into the fold, it simply may not happen. And while prospects are starting to accumulate in the Leafs’ system, the likes of Joe Colborne or Nazem Kadri surely aren’t ready to step in and contribute 60-70 points in an NHL season.

What the Leafs want, ideally, is a center to pass the puck to Phil Kessel; it’s really as simple as that. But if that isn’t possible, how about a winger who passes better than most centers?

I’m going to say it. No going back on it now. Alex Tanguay.

I can actually feel your anger as you read those two words. Because for some reason, 31 is too old and everyone hates Tanguay due to a couple seasons where he didn’t produce big numbers. So for that reason, I’ll try to argue both sides of the coin here and take some of the legwork out of the whole debate for people who will flip over the idea of Tanguay in blue and white.

Let me be clear, I’m not a “Please sign Alex Tanguay” activist. I could really care less if he re-signs in Calgary, or whether he hits the open market. But I will say this: 31 is not old, Tanguay is a good hockey player, and he’s better than a lot of players in the Leafs lineup. In fact, he outscored every player on the Leafs roster this past season.

At 1.7 million dollars, the Flames lucked in to Tanguay having an “on year” where he accumulated 69 points, including 47 assists – tying him with Nicklas Backstrom of Washington for helpers. That assist total actually bests players like Joe Pavelski, Mike Richards, Patrick Kane and Steven Stamkos, to name a few.

For all of these reasons, Tanguay will look for a raise. And the Flames aren’t exactly in the position to hand it to him. Jay Feaster has expressed that he wishes to keep Tanguay around, but it’s going to be tough.

I’m quite aware that if Burke can land another major player through trade or free agency, this Tanguay argument goes away immediately. Again, this guy is an option, not a Unicorn.

But I can’t help wondering if the chemistry Tanguay has developed with a goal scorer like Iginla can translate into him setting up Kessel for a year or two. The Leafs’ current roster is still in no shape to contend for a playoff spot, let alone a Cup. And if Burke wants this postseason drought to end next season, he needs to bring in some help. Even if it’s only temporary.

“Why sacrifice the long-term future for a bum like Tanguay?”

Another prime argument for leaving Tanguay alone would be that he takes away ice time from younger kids ready to develop. That’s fine. While Kadri and Colborne rack up 20-30 points apiece for the Leafs while they cling to twelfth place, I’ll gladly sit back and wait for a decent draft pick in 2012. But is that what Burke, and even more so, Ron Wilson, want for the club? More losing?

I really can’t hit home the fact that I’m not exactly gung-ho over Tanguay signing with the Leafs, without sounding like a broken record.

Much like the rest of the names being thrown around (most of an even higher tier) this guy may never become available. But I do believe he’s at least worth having in the discussion.

Tanguay is a pass first type of player, and he’s shown that with 20 powerplay points for the Flames this past season – 17 of which came by way of assists. But those twenty points with the extra man represent a better total than Anze Kopitar (18), Jeff Carter (17), Plekanec (18), Stastny (19) and Giroux (19), albeit marginally. But either way, you get the point – the guy is alright.

I suppose the question that eventually has to be asked, and answered, is what type of money is Tanguay looking for? And since I’ve probably written enough about him, I’ll let you decide.

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  • http://www.mapleleafshotstove.com Schenn

    @ light’em up:
    Regardless of whether they win the Cup because of the Kessel deal (and Kaberle deal) they’ll still have won the deal because they won the Cup.
    Don’t have to worry though, I have a feeling the Canucks are gonna sweep them!!
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    @ Andrew R:
    The Bruins might contend for the next 5 years because of the Kessel deal, but if they had Kessel in the lineup this year, they’d probably win the Cup. Although, I’m guessing they’d never have the cap space to fit him in.
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    You can say the same thing from the Leafs prespective, the Kaberle and Kessel deals will have the Leafs contending for years to come, especially if Colbonre reaches his potential!!

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    @ light’em up:

    He must be soooooo drunk right now…..lol….it’s gonna get ugly…

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  • LukeSchenn

    Andrew R.. U r on something.. The reason they’re in the finals is cuz we gave them our future? Wtf r u even talking about? They made the finals 2 years after the kessel trade because of the simple fact that they had a better managed team which meant they had a better team than us period.. Ur a moron an absolute fuckin moron

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  • Zep

    Good night.

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  • McKelvie

    Andrew R is just butthurt… When the Leafs start winning he’s not aloud to join is in any type of celebration.

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  • McKelvie

    We all here know that the Leafs LOST the Kessel deal, can we just fucking get over it? .. God, Andrew R comes here crying every day because of it.. I seriously DONT CARE about it anymore, I like Kessel and if Andrew R knew something about hockey, he would know that a lot young players tend to be one dimensional.. look at the Sedins, they were known to be terrible defensively…. I never thought Kessel had the determination to do it, but he seems to be starting to get a grip on back checking and zone coverage.. when he gets a #1 center, hopefully he can be a little less pressured to be the guy that scored.

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  • McKelvie

    It’s a good thing Tyler Seguin is over the age of 18 or Andrew R could be charged with statutory rape.

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  • http://www.mapleleafshotstove.com Schenn

    @ Zombie:
    Hey man, as of right now, I’d say the Leafs have won that deal.
    Kessel has 60+ NHL goals since the deal was made and Seguin, Knight and the yet to be drafted 9th overall pick this year have a combined 14 NHL goals, including playoffs.
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    Also, if Boston doesn’t win the Cup, becuase they lack a true goal scorer, then I’d say that would cement the fact that they lost the deal, no matter how good Seguin becomes. Unless of course Seguin leads them to a Cup in his career.
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    However, if Boston is able to keep up offesively with the Canucks and lose simply because of a few mistakes and bad bounces and Seguin goes on to be a perrenial 40 goal scorer and Knight & the 9th overall pick become NHL regulars in the future, then they will have won the deal in the long run. That would all be negated however, if the Leafs win the Cup with the Leafs.

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  • Slapper

    I don’t see why we must continually defend or critique the Kessel deal. it’s entirely possible, and in my mind probable, that both teams won the deal. Kessel is an elite-level talent that the Leafs would not have otherwise been able to add to their roster by other means. The Bruins shed an asset, but acquired others that may well match or exceed Kessel’s production in time.

    Other factors to consider:
    - The Bruins were able to acquire Horton and in some way, the assets they had by way of their trade with the Leafs, not to mention the salary that was free up by shipping out Kessel, enabled them to do that;
    - The Bruins lost their best player this year in Savard. If they fail to win the Cup this year it may be more about not having the dynamic play-making centre than it is about not having the dynamic sharp-shooting winger.
    - The Leafs could have acquired Cammalleri for slightly more money than what they paid for Kessel, but for none of the assets they had to give up to get him

    We can all debate this until we are blue in the face. But the reality is it won’t make one iota of a difference in the final analysis.

    I like the team we have now, and I like the direction we are heading in.

    As for the cap space….I am NOT in the camp that we spend it ‘because we can’. We should only be adding pieces that expedite our goal of winning the Cup. We need players that compete every night. We need “winners” who have yet won but have it in them to perform when the chips are down and when everything is on the line. I am convinced Phaneuf, Schenn, Reimer, Grabo, Lupul and Kuli are already this type of player. I am convinced Kessel is a top-tier scorer with crazy wheels and better vision than most give him credit for. I think Kessel can evolve into a defensively-responsible offensive dynamo. Kadri could become another critical piece of that puzzle….but if we determine he doesn’t have the mental and physical makeup to get us there, we need to ship him out for someone that does. We need to spend our money wisely, and if we can’t get a player that we see hoisting the Cup for the Leafs within the next 5 years, then let’s not spend that money now and be patient.

    I would LOVE us to make the playoffs this year. I don’t think we are as close as some others on this site though. And if faced with the prospect of making the playoffs next year but stalling our chances for winning the Cup (because we get players that are better than what we have but that don’t have the mental or physical makeup to compete for 4 rounds when the games matter most) OR not getting in next year but advancing the talent-pool with assets that are capable of winning the Cup in a few years…..I would take Option B every time.

    I think we played over our heads in the 2nd half of this year. We’d need to improve significantly in order to ensure we got into the playoffs in 2011/12. Some of this improvement will come organically. But that won’t be enough. We will need at least 2 new players to help our cause. And I want those players to be winners.

    Teams that I think will definitely get into the playoffs next year:
    Washington, Pittsburgh, TBay, Boston, Philly

    Teams that will be good enough to compete for the final 3 spots:
    Carolina, Buffalo, NYR, New Jersey, Leafs

    If the Rangers get Richards, that increases their chances.

    If the Devils resign Parise, that increases their chances.

    A healthy Roy and a FA acquisition of a Puck-moving Dman, along with improvement of players like Ennis and Gerbe will mean they will be tough to beat out.

    Carolina is a good team…..if they can resign players like (or similar to) Jokinen and Pitkanen….they will tough to squeeze out.

    There are many ifs…..and our beloved Leafs have no shortage of IF’s either. I just want to make for damn sure that every move we make is done with the goal of building a team capable of winning the Cup. We need a good mix of different types of players, but we need a solid nucleus of winners….we have a few already and we need 2 or 3 more to make the dream a reality. And we should only be giving long terms contracts and BIG money to such players.

    Lastly:
    - I think Spezza would be a beast of a set-up man for Kessel. He is 3 years younger than B. Richards. If the price was right, I would take him in a heartbeat.
    - Parise would be my first choice though….big talent, big heart, winner;
    - I’d pay Richards big money ($8m+) for a maximum 5 year term.

    God bless the Leafs.

    That’s it. I’m out.

    ps. I live in Vancouver and hate the effing Canucks.

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  • light’em up

    @ Slapper:
    I think you left something out ;)

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  • Slapper

    @light’em up

    You’re right….I forgot to add Montreal (gasp!) to the list of teams we will be battling with for a spot in the 5 to 8 slot.

    And I meant to say that Buffalo was the team that will be better next year with a healthy Roy.

    Sorry for the long post, Guys. It’s been a few months since my last post so I had a lot built up.

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  • daverleafsfan

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duLM2fL4P5s

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAYvSKVjlsA&feature=related

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZovkowjD8mM&feature=related

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  • daverleafsfan

    for the dudes who love the draft like me…. im a draft junkie… i know a lot of the kids on here have been speculating…. you can almost know who burke is targeting for watching the last draft…. mcniell… jt miller and boone jenner are all in his review 100 percent

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  • daverleafsfan

    BY THE WAY THE LAST LINKS I PUT UP WERE BEHIND THE DRAFT… 2010.. VERY AWESEOME BOYS.

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