What to Expect in 2011-12: John-Michael Liles

by on June 26, 2011 in Analysis - 270 Comments

What to Expect in 2011-12: John-Michael Liles
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All of Leafs Nation was elated to finally have a first round pick in what seemed like forever on draft day this year. However, there was still another surprise only hours before the draft began. John-Michael Liles was brought in by Leafs general manager Brian Burke for a second round pick in order to fill the hole left behind by the departed Tomas Kaberle. Is that a reasonable expectation? Let’s find out.

Here are the offensive stats for Colorado’s defense (with at least 20 games played):

Name Games Played Goals Assists Points
J.M. Liles 76 6 40 46
K. Shattenkirk 72 (46)* 9 (7) 34 (19) 43 (26)
E. Johnson 77 (22) 8 (3) 21 (7) 29 (10)
R. Wilson 67 3 13 16
M. Hunwick 73 (51) 1 (0) 12 (10) 13 (10)
R. O’Byrne 67 (64) 0 10 10
A. Foote 47 0 8 8
J. Holos 39 0 6 6
K. Quincey 21 0 1 1

*Stats in brackets are that player’s stats with Colorado specifically

It’s not hard to declare Liles the most offensively talented of this group for this past season. Shattenkirk was definitely the best surprise of the season for the Avalanche, with an even bigger surprise seeing him shipped off to the Blues. As for Liles, it was Shattenkirk who saw the most powerplay time with him, but Ryan O’Byrne was his wingman during even strength. This is impressive, seeing as O’Byrne is ideally a stay at home defenseman not likely to rack up many points. Liles did all this with an exceptional points per minutes played ratio. Kevin Shattenkirk came out on top in this category with 1.36 points per 60 minutes of even strength time, with Liles close behind him at 1.21. Erik Johnson trailed far behind in third place with 0.78. If we wanted to fill in the offense left behind by Kaberle, we seem to have done so.

Let’s take a look at Corsi and some +/- stats:

Name Corsi ON Corsi OFF Corsi REL GAON/60 GAOFF/60
K. Shattenkirk 3.72 -3.62 7.3 2.77 2.82
J.M. Liles -1.49 -8.54 7.1 2.89 2.83
K. Quincey 0.96 -4.54 5.5 2.88 2.14
J. Holos -2.99 -5.89 2.9 2.35 2.76
E. Johnson 1.47 1.84 -0.4 2.76 2.62
R. O’Byrne -8.13 -4.40 -3.7 2.43 3.37
M. Hunwick -8.67 -4.57 -4.1 2.51 2.65
R. Wilson -9.23 -2.73 -6.5 3.00 2.93
A. Foote -14.61 -2.84 -11.8 3.24 2.69

*Stats are for entire season

Corsi is a fairly simple stat that measures chances given and chances taken. Any time a player’s team fires the puck in the direction of the opposing net (whether it be a shot on goal, a blocked shot or a missed shot), their Corsi rating goes up. The opposite effect happens when the opponent manages to do the same on that player’s own net. Corsi ON is the team’s Corsi when that player is on the ice. So John-Michael Liles’ Corsi ON of -1.49 is not good; it means the opponent has higher possession of the puck than Liles’ team when he’s on the ice. Corsi OFF measures the team Corsi when that player is on the bench or not playing. Again looking at Liles, we see his Corsi OFF is -8.54. That means his team is outplayed by a much wider margin when he’s on the bench. From this we can garner the Corsi REL stat, which subtracts OFF from ON to come up with their actual Corsi based on the team they play for. Subtracting Liles’ OFF from his ON gives us a 7.1 Corsi rating, far higher than every player except Shattenkirk.

As for GAON/60 and GAOFF/60, you can probably guess what they mean based on their acronym. The goals against when these players are on the ice/off the ice are fairly consistent among the group, with only Ryan Wilson and Adam Foote being far worse than the group at large. Liles’ most frequent defensive partner, Ryan O’Byrne, actually has the greatest disparity between these two stats. It seems Colorado was far better defensively when O’Byrne was on the ice. This no doubt helped Liles to be creative offensively, knowing there was a steadying presence behind him.

Here are a few related stats to look at before we finish:

Name Ozone% Fin Ozone% QUALCOMP Blocked Shots Hits
K. Shattenkirk 60.1 50.0 -0.033 96 66
K. Quincey 55.9 53.8 -0.048 26 28
J.M. Liles 55.6 50.8 0.000 153 59
E. Johnson 53.5 53.6 0.019 133 99
M. Hunwick 49.5 51.0 -0.017 71 65
J. Holos 47.1 52.3 -0.054 32 19
R. Wilson 42.7 49.4 -0.011 110 135
R. O’Byrne 42.3 51.2 0.053 131 179
A. Foote 40.1 52.6 -0.037 67 55

*Stats are for entire season

Ozone% measures the  percentage of times a player’s shift starts in the offensive zone, while Fin Ozone% measures the percentage of times a player’s shift ends in the offensive zone. Liles ended up having 55.6% of his shifts start in the offensive zone. This is incredibly high and, at first glance, would suggest he was being sheltered from the defensive zone. However, his QUALCOMP (quality of competition) is at an even 0.000, higher than all but two players, one of which was his defensive partner. Going further, we can glean that Liles actually led the defense corps in blocked shots with a very respectable 153. It seems he wasn’t being sheltered completely, but there is evidence that the coaching staff preferred Liles in the offensive zone (which is hardly surprising). For reference, Tomas Kaberle blocked 21 shots in the 2010-11 season.

It seems realistic to expect that John-Michael Liles will fill the void that Kaberle left on offense, while also contributing on a far greater level defensively. Liles is still known for some gaffes on defense, but that’s certainly nothing new to us as Leafs fans. Personally, I believe Liles would do best paired with Luke Schenn in Toronto. Schenn could compensate for any defensive errors, while also being more offensively gifted than Ryan O’Byrne. I’ll end this article with a single statement: we traded Tomas Kaberle for Joe Colborne, Tyler Biggs and John-Michael Liles. It’s hard to be disappointed with that return.

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  • 4evrblue

    I could easily see that many points. 35-40 goals and 35-40 assists this year for Phil the Thrill

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  • The Wizard of Naz

    lol why are we combining trades now? i love kessel. i see the good in every trade burke makes. im just amused at the fact that people have this idea that they have to keep saying how we evened up the kessel trade with the kaberle one. who really cares?

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  • Burtonboy

    Obviously these guys didn’t hear Pat Morris’s interview on the Fan.
    http://www.rangerstribune.com/the-rangers-tribune/2011/06/rumor-rangers-to-go-all-out-to-get-brad-richards.html

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  • Anonymous

    Nope, no one said that. The article simply pointed out that we got a good return for Kabs.

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  • 4evrblue

    I didnt hear the Pat Morris interview. Wanna fill me in with what he said?

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  • Burtonboy

    I didn’t hear it either but its all over several different forum’s this weekend.
    http://communities.sportsnet.ca/thread/60255?start=0&tstart=0
    http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=932541

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  • 4evrblue

    sweet action. I cant wait until friday and am even more excited for October :D

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  • Anonymous

    I had asked Cameron about it yesterday and he said you had heard… thanks for the links… just checked the HF boards link and the point of expecting the Leafs to negotiate face to face on 1 July is very promising for him to think/expect that.

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  • Anonymous

    totally agree

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  • Burtonboy

    I’m not sure what to make of what Morris said . I would love to have heard the interview myself to put it in context. Fuckin fan doesn’t archive full show podcasts and I haven’t been able to hear it.

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  • Burtonboy

    It sounds so optimistic I’m having a hard time believing it.

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  • Anonymous

    Q: When was the last time you won a medal in something other than hockey?A: Maybe when I was 11 years old. I took down a couple of figure skating medals back in the day … I was kind of like Chazz Michael Michaels (Will Ferrell’s character in the movie Blades of Glory). I brought the same kind of passion to the ice. It was about the intensity.
    http://gettingpucksdeep.blogspot.com/2009/08/focus-on-thrasher-colby-armstrong.html

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  • Waiting4LSC
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  • Schenn

    Go into your profile and change your real name to Tim Horton and it should show up as that.

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  • Anonymous

    I think he would be a step down from someone like Bozak. Just my opinion anyways. The Leafs need someone wiht skill to justify signing them fo rthe first line because I think Bozak will fill taht third line duty quite well

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  • Dougy

    test

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  • Burtonboy

    You can expect to see and hear lots of stuff like this leading into Friday
    Dallas_Dave Dallas Dave
    Hearing #Panthers prepared to make a “monster” offer for Brad Richards.

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  • golieguy19

    No way.

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  • Anonymous

    I wish I could hit FF on life so it would be Friday already

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  • Burtonboy

    Your gonna hear a lot more then that. This thing is just heating up

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  • 4evrblue

    my own sources are telling me that Richards heard about the Panthers plans and is fully prepared to tell them to fuck off :)

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  • golieguy19

    I saw your retweet on Twitter, Dallas_Dave isn’t overly reliable is he?

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  • Waiting4LSC

    Well if it keeps Richards away from our playoff rivals, I would sooner lose him to them (if indeed we lose him —- just seems too many good reasons not to come to the Leafs).

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