Morning Mashup: Goalies, Tourneys, and Alumni

by on August 6, 2012 in Morning Mashup - 451 Comments

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It’s another slow weekend in Leafs land. Maybe not as slow as last week, as the Friday signing of Morgan Rielly is actual, factual news, but other than the decision to sign him now rather than wait for what the next CBA will hold in regards to Entry Level Contracts, there really isn’t much analysis required.

The Leafs also bulked up their Alumni roster for the Winter Classic, as Vincent Damphousse, Russ Courtnall, Gary Leeman, Bill Derlago, Dave Ellett and Bob McGill signed up. The highlight of this being that the whole hound line is now on board. Assuming that Sundin and Domi are in fact on board that levels Borje Salming as the last major holdout for the Leafs.

Unfortunately this is all we will likely get for news over the course of August, during Burke’s time in Toronto the only notable move he completed in August was the Clarke MacArthur signing. That doesn’t mean that nothing will happen, but it’s probably a time to divorce yourself from twitter insiders who are constantly reporting possible Leafs trades. With Burke at the Olympics this week it doesn’t mean that he’s not taking calls or there isn’t someone back in the office with something on the go, but signs are pointing to this being summer vacation time.

The one area that must still be weighing on Burke’s mind is the goaltending situation, and recently Justin Goldman of the Goaltenders Guild had this to say about the Leafs depth:

“I have been saying it on a daily basis since last November, and I seriously can’t take it anymore. I can’t scream it any louder, and I can’t be any more blunt than this; the Leafs desperately need a veteran presence!! Inexperienced prospects like James Reimer and Ben Scrivens can’t manage the extreme pressure that goalies face in a market like Toronto, and no matter how good of a goalie coach Francois Allaire is, he’s not capable of leading by example.”

You can check out the rest of Justin’s thoughts here. When looking at the Eastern Conference depth charts it looks like Florida may be the only team in a position to deal a goaltender, especially if they acquire Luongo, but teams like Washington, Winnipeg, Tampa, Islanders, and to some extent Boston all have question marks around their number one goaltender situation.

Looking at Justin’s thoughts on the Western Conference it seems that Minnesota may be a team to look at for a potential trade as they seem to have a strong pipeline with Harding, Gustafsson, and Hackett behind Backstrom. Bernier, and Luongo are already publically available but it’s safe to say that Backstrom could be in play as well, not to mention if Chicago acquires a new goaltender either Corey Crawford or Ray Emery could be made available. While much like Bernier, Crawford may not be an upgrade over Scrivens I’d like to see one of them added for depth. Signing Scrivens to a deal around $2 million a season and returning him to the Marlies would probably be enough of a cap hit to scare off teams that would potentially claim him off of waivers.

One goaltender who I don’t buy as being on the market and seems to be floating around the rumour mill a lot lately is Mikka Kiprusoff. I think it’s a safe bet that a team that is willing pay north of five million dollars a season for Dennis Wideman isn’t interested in removing the one person capable of covering up the numerous mistakes that Wideman will surely make. This seems similar to the garbage rumour that Kari Lehtonen is available. It’s hard to believe the Stars are loading up on retirement age talent at the same time they are going to strip mine a core position.

Pointless speculation aside, we’re in for a quiet month in Leafs land, and the CBA negotiations will surely make transactions few and far between. On the upside, we’ll at least have the Ivan Hlinka Under 18 Tournament, and the Canada Russia Challenge to look forward to in the next few weeks. Morgan Rielly will be competing at the Canada Russia Challenge, and somewhere on this under-18 roster is a future Leaf in the 2013 draft. My favourite for the 2013 draft is Curtis Lazar given my WHL bias.

Here are a few more links…

Puck Daddy takes look at the Locomotiv Memorial Game
Over $40k raised for youth hockey from this event that featured some of the best known players in the world.

Top 25 under 25: #21 Tyler Biggs
This post is a couple of days old, but I really enjoyed it so I’m going to link to it. I think it does an excellent job of capturing the different points of view on the polarizing prospect. For me personally, I think it was foolish to trade two high picks for him, but now that he’s Leafs property I’ve got no problem with a physical third liner with some untapped offensive upside in the system. At this point anyone comparing him to Dustin Brown or Milan Lucic is completely out to lunch though. Most of the time no good comes from making comparisons to the best players of that certain skill set.

NHL.com builds a 16 man roster out of the best statistical seasons of all time
Surprise, surprise, the best offensive seasons all came from 80s and early 90s (save for Bobby Orr) and the best goaltending seasons are from the era of giant pads. I still think this team would lose because Kevin Stevens would throw games for crack money.

It looks like Michael at Vintage Leaf Memories is anxious for something to happen
Of course the CBA is a huge factor in this and the Leafs will want some flexibility when the new agreement starts up, but at the same time the Leafs need to make a bold move and there is something to be said for getting out in front of the new CBA.

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  • WendelGilmour

    Yeah, I believe you could still follow the workout plan, and still get proper nutrition during Ramadan, although the schedule would be a little screwy. I have worked with many Muslims who have told me they are pretty tolerant of any exceptions which need to be made, but that’s just my presonal experience.

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  • Armchair GM

    Here’s something from 1966 by Jeff Beck, my favorite guitarist: The Nazz are Blue…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPpSh1CkLLI

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  • http://www.hockey-nerd.com Cameron

    Why would we have to?

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  • WendelGilmour

    If we were to bring Statsny in that would mean we would have Statsny, Grabs, and Kadri if Grabs wasn’t moved. I appreciate Statsny’s two way play, but think Kadri would/will be a better 1C, so where would Grabs fit?

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  • http://www.hockey-nerd.com Cameron
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  • WendelGilmour

    I understand that, and agree, but I’m not sure Lups and Kess should be on the same kine. They gave up more goals than they scored. I would break the up and rejig the line-up. Then you could have your best offensiv C as 1C.

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  • Armchair GM

    Kadri still has lots to learn… Stastny and Grabo likely 1C and 2C… Kadri can play wing and learn…

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  • WendelGilmour

    We’re not far apart. I would have Kadri as 1C, but that’s fine. I certainly agree that line-up is much better than last year’s.

    I’ve seen you put Fraser at 4th line LW a couple of times, do you know if he’s actually played there before?

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  • WendelGilmour

    I understand he still has learning to do, and many NHL teams do it that way, but I would have him play where he is most effective, and that’s at centre.

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  • WendelGilmour

    Makes sense. If he could do that it would also be an upgrade.

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  • WendelGilmour

    Zajac actually intrigues me a little.

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  • WendelGilmour

    Interesting. I look forward to seeing what the real story is. Wouldn’t you think Naz would realize that quitting that program would be a huge career blow. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt until we getall the details.

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  • JVR

    Just wondering, where did you read this??

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  • MSM

    Someone way below said they saw/heard that Kadri was only there two weeks. No source for it. Someone said he probably got a routine and went home with it. I was pointing out that the Gary Roberts institute Elite Program for NHLersis a 12-week boot camp, at Roberts’ facility in Toronto from June through August, with constant hands on training, assessment and prepared meals all day long. Its not something you take home with you. That’s why Stamkos showed up looking like a Marine after his first. Maybe Kadris shoulder rehab wouldnt allow him to do any more.

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  • Tim Horton

    Someone on HFBoards posted this statement. “Apparently Kadri trained with Roberts for 2 weeks. That’s it. So if he’s going make improvements physically we ought to look beyond Roberts for praise.”

    After reading through that forum it seems like that was just a random statement from one guy without a source, it sucks that it was brought over here, but you know, slow summer.

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  • Phaneufoundlander

    Jeez man, your just like a woman, you always got to have the last say….

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  • Armchair GM

    But he breaks just like a little girl…

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