What to Expect from James van Riemsdyk

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What to Expect from James van Riemsdyk
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In a Leaf era fraught with frustration and mistrust, nobody brought forth these feelings in fans more than Luke Schenn over the past couple years. After what many would call a promising start, Schenn’s career became known more for blunders than smart defensive plays. Though I have written on how Schenn’s stats seem to indicate underlying problems in his defensive game, I will admit that the goalies in Toronto have made everyone look bad lately. Brian Burke eventually saw what the fans saw in Schenn, trading him for James van Riemsdyk, another young player who had been somewhat soured in management (though that was due to injuries).

Will there be a 2012-13 season? Probably not. Will I do a ‘What to Expect’ for van Riemsdyk anyway? Absolutely. Come with me on a journey down the rabbit hole of advanced statistics.

Keeping Pace

Season Team GP G A PTS PIM
09/10 PHI 78 15 20 35 30
10/11 PHI 75 21 19 40 35
11/12 PHI 43 11 13 24 24

If we were to stretch his 2011/12 totals to the previous year’s 75 games played, we’d get 19 goals and 23 assists for 42 points. His keeping pace could be construed as negative for a growing player, but this is not necessarily the case as we will see soon enough. What we’re seeing here is a player hovering around 40 points a year if injuries don’t impede him, which for someone who only recently turned 23 is a very good thing. A positive Corsi will endear him to the Leafs, a team which is in need of anyone that can take the puck as far away from their goalies as possible.

In other areas, van Riemsdyk manages to stay positive. His blocked shots (18) and takeaways (17) are both fine if we stretch them out to an 82 game season (34BkS/32TkA). He was on pace for 71 hits before his season ending injury last season, which indicates that while he’s no intimidating presence, he at least doesn’t shy away from physicality. As for shooting, van Riemsdyk does a lot of it:

He’s pretty all over the place. His goals are not, however. You’ll notice that most of them come within a few feet of the crease, with a very large cluster of shots surrounding them. This is a very good thing. If he plays with Bozak/Connolly/Kessel, he’ll be a great foil to their board play. If he plays with Grabovski, the two of them can charge to the net in the same play, much like Grabo did with Kulemin in 2010/11. Either way, he plays a style of offensive pressure that is an asset to any line you put him on.

A Guide to James van Riemsdyk’s Offensive Future

Season Corsi REL On-ice Sh% On-Ice Sv% PDO Off. Start % Off. Fin %
09/10 8.1 7.16 .917 989 58.8 48.9
10/11 0.5 9.54 .927 1022 52.6 51.7
11/12 3.1 7.53 .903 978 60.7 52.1

Corsi REL = Corsi rating relative to the rest of his team; On-ice Sh% = team shooting percentage when player is on the ice; On-ice Sv% = team save percentage when player is on the ice; PDO = addition of on-ice save and shooting percentages (ex. 75.3 + 903 = 978.3); Off. Start % = percentage of shifts started in the offensive zone; Off. Finish % = percentage of shifts ending in the offensive zone; All stats are at even strength

James van Riemsdyk’s Corsi rating has fluctuated rather wildly in his three year career. Strangely enough, his lowest total comes in 2010/11, when he primarily played with Mike Richards, Claude Giroux and Jeff Carter. No negative seasons however, clearly a good sign for someone in the age range of 20-23 during that time. His positive play could jump start the Grabovski line, which primarily suffered from the baffling downward spiral that was Nikolai Kulemin’s 2011/12 season.

Eric Tulsky over at Broad Street Hockey wrote a wonderful piece about James van Riemsdyk’s shooting back in February. Though his shots per 60 has increased by 22%, his shooting percentage was far lower than the previous season. This was the result of random fluctuations which are exceedingly common in the NHL due to low sample sizes for shots on goal. If we were to conflate this with van Riemsdyk’s extremely low PDO, we can come to an interesting conclusion. At its core PDO is a “luck” stat which accounts for lower than average totals in shooting and save percentages. His 978 PDO this season is a career low, which indicates that his underlying play is better than his stats show. If he had a “down” season while also keeping offensive pace with his previous seasons, we can reasonably assume that van Riemsdyk could see a jump up in production. To further this, his frequent linemates this season were Wayne Simmonds and Jakub Voracek, which are not preferable to who he played with the year prior.

James van Riemsdyk was given the highest percentage of offensive zone starts among forwards on Philadelphia this season. While it certainly indicates a propensity for offensive flair, it also shows that he’s not expected to be defensively sound. His -8.6% difference in starts/finishes also reflects poorly on his ability to leave the ice with the pressure still on. Generally, if a forward is not good defensively, I agree with the idea of very high offensive zone starts. It’s the future of coaching strategy as the 50/50 splits of the past become fading memories. This will certainly be the case under the tutelage of Randy Carlyle.

Odds and Ends

Before wrapping up, let’s take a look at some of the leftover bits of info we can scrounge up. Penalties seems to be a problem when van Riemsdyk is on the ice, as he took slightly more penalties than he drew (1.2/60 to 1.1/60), though the team took fewer than they drew with him on the ice (5.7/60 to 6.5/60). Four of his eleven goals this season came when Philly was tied with their opponent, one came when they were trailing by one and three more came when they were leading by one. Seems he’s a big moment scorer. 20.8% of his points came on the powerplay this season and this is unlikely to change in Toronto, where he will see significant time when on a man advantage.

What Others are Saying about James van Riemsdyk

“… he’s shown a lot of progress this year and only a drop in shooting percentage luck is holding him back.” – Eric Tulsky, Broad Street Hockey

“… the Leafs exchanged a contract for a minus player to a contract for a plus player.” – Cam Charron, The Leafs Nation

“He brings size, foot speed, skill and this is a guy we think can make a difference on our hockey team.” – Brian Burke

Conclusion

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The question is where van Riemsdyk fits in the Leafs’ lineup. I’m choosing to ignore the “move him to center” discussion that will culminate in maybe two shifts at center before Carlyle makes the right decision and puts him back on the wing. The obvious fit is supplanting Kulemin on Grabovski’s line. I wouldn’t mind one of Frattin or Kadri as the third player on that line. Kadri especially would be a nice fit, seeing as he’s a perimeter guy with exceptional passing ability. If Lupul stumbles out of the gate, which is possible, van Riemsdyk could get the call on the first line and would do well there. Either way, he should get significant playing time. As for the trade, at worst we got a 40 point forward for a defenceman who seemed to be going nowhere in this city. Schenn could certainly bounce back in a new environment, but trading him was a net positive even in that scenario. I for one can’t wait to see van Riemsdyk score his first goal as a Leaf.

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@DefenceWinsChampionships ahhhh shut up!

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12:46 PM • 2 Sep 12 • in reply to DefenceWinsChampionships
DefenceWinsChampionships8 mths ago
The escalation of Schenn hate since the JVR trade has been ridiculous. Over the last few months, there has been a steady increase in the amount of Schenn bashing, despite the fact that he hasn't been playing hockey. It's amazing to see people go from "Schenn is a promising young player coming off of a bad year" to "Schenn wasn't going to become anything here". Not being a Leaf anymore makes him a useless piece of shit, I guess.

In 10/11, a 21-year-old Schenn played like a legitimate top 4 dman. He and Kaberle were very good together. Last year, as a 22-year-old, he had a really bad season. I'm not denying that. But he is a defensive Dman, a type of player that probably won't enter his prime until he is 27 or 28. He's played like a top 4 dman before, and given his age, will likely be at least that again in the long run. How many defensive Dmen peak at 21? Probably none, ever.

I'm not saying this to debate the Schenn-JVR trade. There has been enough of that done in the past. But it is crazy to act like we gave up nothing to get JVR. Schenn was a very promising young player, and will be a good dman for years.

This type of thing doesn't just happen with Schenn, it has happened with other players too. As soon as someone gets traded away from the Leafs, people's opinions of the player drastically change. Shameless bias at its best.

I bet if we moved Kulemin for a young dman, people would start acting like he is an insignificant player as well. He, like Schenn, had a great 10/11 season, followed by a horrible 11/12 season. Except Kulemin is older, and plays a position in which players typically reach their prime earlier in their careers. He is much less likely than Schenn to return to his 10/11 level of play in the long run. People still like Kuli. But how quickly would that change if he were moved? I'm guessing it would take less than 2 months for people to start shitting on him and calling him an easily replaceable bottom-6 forward.

@Yaknowwhat Ask your son how physical Stamkos is. Has he fought? I know Kessel has at least 1 fight under his belt.

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3:18 AM • 2 Sep 12 • in reply to Yaknowwhat
Yaknowwhat8 mths ago
Speaking of Kessel.....I'm talking to my 15 year old son yesterday...for whatever reason he's a Tampa Bay fan..loves Yzerman and Stamkos...anyways...were talking about the Leafs yesterday and he comes out and says he doesn't like Kessel..I said look at the points he put up..how can you say you don't like him...he says..I don't like hockey players who don't play physical...and Kessel has zero physicality in his game...I was stunned...and sadly..I really couldn't argue that point with him....

@Yaknowwhat But he likes Divee Magee Stamkos?

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12:22 AM • 2 Sep 12 • in reply to Yaknowwhat
Yaknowwhat8 mths ago
Speaking of Kessel.....I'm talking to my 15 year old son yesterday...for whatever reason he's a Tampa Bay fan..loves Yzerman and Stamkos...anyways...were talking about the Leafs yesterday and he comes out and says he doesn't like Kessel..I said look at the points he put up..how can you say you don't like him...he says..I don't like hockey players who don't play physical...and Kessel has zero physicality in his game...I was stunned...and sadly..I really couldn't argue that point with him....

@Yaknowwhat He would have despised Bossy, Gretzky, Lafleur ...

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12:07 AM • 2 Sep 12 • in reply to Yaknowwhat
Yaknowwhat8 mths ago
Speaking of Kessel.....I'm talking to my 15 year old son yesterday...for whatever reason he's a Tampa Bay fan..loves Yzerman and Stamkos...anyways...were talking about the Leafs yesterday and he comes out and says he doesn't like Kessel..I said look at the points he put up..how can you say you don't like him...he says..I don't like hockey players who don't play physical...and Kessel has zero physicality in his game...I was stunned...and sadly..I really couldn't argue that point with him....

@wiski What I always remember about going back..is after the first hour..it felt like you never left...lol....

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11:05 PM • 1 Sep 12 • in reply to wiski
wiski8 mths ago
The most wonderful time of the year. lol

@rustynail LOL

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11:04 PM • 1 Sep 12 • in reply to rustynail
rustynail8 mths ago
I remember my grandfather burning a couch in front of a guy who offered him 1/2 what he thought it was worth. :)

@Yaknowwhat The most wonderful time of the year. lol

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11:03 PM • 1 Sep 12 • in reply to Yaknowwhat
Yaknowwhat8 mths ago
Both kids back to school on Tuesday...that just breaks my heart...lol..

@Yaknowwhat That good too charity gets paid back ten times they say.

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11:03 PM • 1 Sep 12 • in reply to Yaknowwhat
Yaknowwhat8 mths ago
I put some stuff that didn't sell on kijiji and already sold a couple of things.....I'll just donate the rest...value village..goodwill..whatever..

@rustynail I would of loved to seen the expression on the guys face ...lol..

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11:02 PM • 1 Sep 12 • in reply to rustynail
rustynail8 mths ago
The part I found entertaining was him setting it on fire in front of the guy.

@Yaknowwhat The part I found entertaining was him setting it on fire in front of the guy.

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11:01 PM • 1 Sep 12 • in reply to Yaknowwhat
Yaknowwhat8 mths ago

@rustynail

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10:59 PM • 1 Sep 12 • in reply to rustynail
rustynail8 mths ago
I remember my grandfather burning a couch in front of a guy who offered him 1/2 what he thought it was worth. :)

@Yaknowwhat I remember my grandfather burning a couch in front of a guy who offered him 1/2 what he thought it was worth. :)

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10:58 PM • 1 Sep 12 • in reply to Yaknowwhat
Yaknowwhat8 mths ago
I'll take it to the dump before I hand it over for a toonie..lol...

Both kids back to school on Tuesday...that just breaks my heart...lol..

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10:57 PM • 1 Sep 12

@wiski I put some stuff that didn't sell on kijiji and already sold a couple of things.....I'll just donate the rest...value village..goodwill..whatever..

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10:56 PM • 1 Sep 12 • in reply to wiski
wiski8 mths ago
I was pressed for time to get rid of shit though.

@Yaknowwhat I was pressed for time to get rid of shit though.

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10:55 PM • 1 Sep 12 • in reply to Yaknowwhat
Yaknowwhat8 mths ago
I did that with a box of books today.....a lady wanted two books for 2 bucks each...I said you can have the whole box for 5 bucks..there was like 10 books in the box...lol..

@wiski I did that with a box of books today.....a lady wanted two books for 2 bucks each...I said you can have the whole box for 5 bucks..there was like 10 books in the box...lol..

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10:54 PM • 1 Sep 12 • in reply to wiski
wiski8 mths ago

@Yaknowwhat

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10:52 PM • 1 Sep 12 • in reply to Yaknowwhat
Yaknowwhat8 mths ago
I'll take it to the dump before I hand it over for a toonie..lol...

@Yaknowwhat LOL Me Too!!!

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10:48 PM • 1 Sep 12 • in reply to Yaknowwhat
Yaknowwhat8 mths ago
I'll take it to the dump before I hand it over for a toonie..lol...

@wiski I'll take it to the dump before I hand it over for a toonie..lol...

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10:47 PM • 1 Sep 12 • in reply to wiski
wiski8 mths ago
If your gonna toss it take the toonie. lol

@Yaknowwhat If your gonna toss it take the toonie. lol

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10:46 PM • 1 Sep 12 • in reply to Yaknowwhat
Yaknowwhat8 mths ago
I had a friggin table marked at $15.00..it was a steal....a woman offerred me a toonie for it....lol.....I couldn't believe it...lol..

@Yaknowwhat LOL

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10:46 PM • 1 Sep 12 • in reply to Yaknowwhat
Yaknowwhat8 mths ago
I had a friggin table marked at $15.00..it was a steal....a woman offerred me a toonie for it....lol.....I couldn't believe it...lol..

@Yaknowwhat Yup

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10:46 PM • 1 Sep 12 • in reply to Yaknowwhat
Yaknowwhat8 mths ago
Scrivens?? You mean are #1 goalie : )

@Doorman I had a friggin table marked at $15.00..it was a steal....a woman offerred me a toonie for it....lol.....I couldn't believe it...lol..

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10:45 PM • 1 Sep 12 • in reply to Doorman
Doorman8 mths ago

@Doorman Getting paid. lol

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10:45 PM • 1 Sep 12 • in reply to Doorman
Doorman8 mths ago

@wiski Scrivens?? You mean are #1 goalie : )

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10:44 PM • 1 Sep 12 • in reply to wiski
wiski8 mths ago
Scrivens posted this on twitter, not bad

http://trampledbyturtles.com/

@Yaknowwhat

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10:44 PM • 1 Sep 12 • in reply to Yaknowwhat
Yaknowwhat8 mths ago
I had a yardsale this morning..I've never met so many cheap bastards in all my life!!

@Bon Scott was a Leaf fan Scrivens posted this on twitter, not bad

http://trampledbyturtles.com/

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10:43 PM • 1 Sep 12 • in reply to Bon Scott was a Leaf fan
Bon Scott was a Leaf fan8 mths ago
LOL...I'm pretty high right now and listening to Kenny Rogers.

I had a yardsale this morning..I've never met so many cheap bastards in all my life!!

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10:43 PM • 1 Sep 12

@wiski

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10:42 PM • 1 Sep 12 • in reply to wiski
wiski8 mths ago
Still working, we were talking bout the summer. lol

@Doorman Still working, we were talking bout the summer. lol

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10:40 PM • 1 Sep 12 • in reply to Doorman
Doorman8 mths ago
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