Neither Side is Ready to Make a Deal

by on October 22, 2012 in Morning Mashup, Opinion - 261 Comments

Neither Side is Ready to Make a Deal
Photo: Chris Young/The Canadian Press
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So this week is do or die time for the 82 game season. Odds are we will see one last save face meeting between the league and PA and the result will be somewhat similar to what we’ve seen so far.

At this point neither side has been able to get past posturing and resentment. While I don’t doubt that the current proposals aren’t too far off of what will ultimately be the final deal, neither side is ready to make additional concessions.

For the NHLPA, there is a need to move to past the fact that this is the second recent lockout demanding serious concessions. That’s not to say don’t voice concerns if they take issues with the current agreement, but as long as everything is being done relative to last CBA they won’t be able move forward.

From the owners perspective,, they will stalemate until they realize that hockey teams are not a turnkey operation with guaranteed profits rolling in. To some extent there will need to be some reflection that bad business decisions equal losses (should the players take the hit for the continued support of Phoenix or the NHL Guardian Project?) While over half the league losing money does support the notion that some changes to the system are required, there needs to be some acknowledgement that there likely isn’t a clause they can include in the CBA that will make hockey in Florida profitable.

Until both sides come to realization that rarely in labour negotiations do you get to walk away with something you’re happy with, and rather you get the very least you’re willing to accept, both sides will continue to present false hope to hockey fans.

Since it is up to the league on when they decide to offer their service to the public again, the hockey viewing public remains on the sidelines without a dog in the fight. Remember that patience is a virtue and it’s really the only action available at this point.

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As for the hockey that is going on, I’d encourage everyone to follow Blue Chip Prospects on twitter. Curt has been viewing an insane number of games involving Leafs prospects and provides great game day insight.

And as for the Marlies, I am hoping that their slow start to the season will end the lovefest with the idea that every single one of the players has the potential to be on the Leafs when the NHL starts up. Greg Millen so far has set the bar low with his comment that Will Acton could be destined for the Leafs third line, but far worse is the assumption that players like Kadri, Gardiner, or Scrivens have nothing to work on at the AHL level before returning to the NHL. It’s okay to like these players and still notice their flaws.

Monday Morning Links…

Shannon: Luongo will be traded to the Leafs
Give John Shannon credit for being so adamant that this is happening. Of course I’d be more willing to believe him if he didn’t note that Vancouver and Toronto have no idea who else will be involved in the deal.

What’s Luongo worth to the Leafs
The Leafs clearly need a top tier goaltender, so in that sense he’s worth a lot. In the sense of what you should give up for him, it depends on the new CBA. My best offer would be Franson, Scrivens, and Bozak.

Is it time for Burke to get daring again?
Oh my yes. Conservative Burke doesn’t do it for me.

Daly says framework on the table for a new CBA
Let’s hope he can convince the NHLPA of this.

Projected Leafs Scoring
I find these projections interesting, but as always the wider the net you cast the better your chances are of being right. I’d be interested in knowing what the confidence interval is for this approach. I’ve been toying around with my own projection methodology; I hope to roll it out at some point this year.

AHL Salaries 2012-13 Opening Night Rosters
The AHL spends less on salary than the Florida Panthers.

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  • Ensign

    Healy and Don could fade away into retirement and I’d be a happy man.

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  • Yaknowwhat

    I think its coming…

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  • Mind Bomb

    hahaa. lets give him a Legit Defense and some proper coaching and see lol

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  • Yaknowwhat

    Now Cassie Campbell??  She should find another line of work…

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  • Ensign

    woot!!

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  • Leafbites

    You guys hear this crap from Kostitsyn in Nash, preferring their wasn’t an NHL season this year. Didn’t need to be prophetic to surmise that the player’s public ’2 cents’ was going to sink them, but does anyone really care if this buffoon plays another game in the NHL. And you too, Ovi. 

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  • Yaknowwhat

    Where on earth are we going to get those things?? lol..

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  • http://www.hockey-nerd.com Cameron

    Based on what?

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  • Yaknowwhat

    It wouldn’t bother me in the slightest if all euro’s stayed home..I think I would quite enjoy the NHL with all North American born players..

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  • Mind Bomb

     No Idea bro, no idea 

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  • Ensign

    Fuck that.. Grabbo is the man!

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  • Yaknowwhat

    Ok.ok…Grabo can stay…

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  • Mind Bomb

     Grabo is the Man,

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  • Mind Bomb

     Was teasing Cam, I used to bug you about Colburne not being ready 

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  • Scbray19

    I was down at the marlies game yesterday afternoon, they have some decent talent but not even Jake Gardiner really stood out in the loss. I have been a Kadri supporter for a long time but the more I watch him play at the pro level the more he reminds me of Kyle Wellwood.The out of shape comparisons aside, they both are supremely skilled players with great vision. In JR they had a step on the competition which hasn’t translated to the Pros. They just end up teasing with flashes of brilliance and no consistency.

    Believe me, I hope I am wrong; although I suspect Kadri will end up another infamous early pick of the Toronto Maple Leafs.

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  • Tim Horton

    Although I hate Kostitsyn the point he was trying to convey is that it is frustrating not knowing what is going to happen. If they plan on canceling the season just go ahead and do it, so he can prepare to live and play in Russia for the rest of the year. He did not mean that he doesn’t need the NHL because he has a team, which I can see it comes across as.

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  • Yaknowwhat

    That photo of Sundin and Roberts at the top of this page makes me laugh for some reason…I think its the expression on their faces..

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  • Yaknowwhat

    Geez..and now its gone..strange..

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  • Yaknowwhat

    I guess they constantly change..

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  • Burtonboy

    Cody Nickolet ‏@WHLFromAbove
    #Oilers D Justin Schultz named AHL player of the week. He had 3 goals, an assist and was +6 in two games last week for the

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  • 4evrblue

    correct sir

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  • Fanboy

    I don’t have a good feeling about Kadri.  It started at last season’s call-up when he faded away.  Now after watching him especially after a summer with Gary Roberts , it only confirms my belief he doesn’t have another gear.  Great hands and vision but not much else.

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  • 4evrblue

    exactly, I actually said thats what I expect of Reimer

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  • Marpole_Leafs

    More Bernier talk eh? Can’t we just stick with our own mediocrity in net at the moment instead of trading assets for someone else’s mediocrity ? The unknown factor with keepers is the highest of any position in hockey…you just never know.  Saying someone has a higher ceiling (when talking goalies) is the most meaningless phrase in pro sports.  Crapshoot at best.

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  • Burtonboy

    Andy Strickland ‏@andystrickland
    NHL’s Bill Daly tells me in an e-mail there is no current intent to cancel the entire season anytime soon #NHL

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