Will common sense prevail?

by on October 24, 2012 in Morning Mashup - 622 Comments

Will common sense prevail?
Photo: AP/Tom Hanson
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Strapped for a mashup topic this morning, I was reading the latest doomsday talk from last night and thought it might be worthwhile to highlight a post from late last week courtesy of mc79 hockey (in case you missed it). If, like me, you’re one of the poor souls trying to make sense of the countless 800-word articles containing the latest BS quotes spewing out of the parties involved, Tyler Dellow has done you a great service with this break down of the measurable gap between the NHL and NHLPA.

Keep in mind, first of all, that it’s the last possible deadline that matters most – as far as a full season goes, that could be as far as two weeks after November 2 – and even then, a few games lost early in the season is probably not a make it or break it factor here.

Despite all the posturing and the PR stunts – the talk of “back to the drawing board,” or “we’re not even speaking the same language” – both sides appear close to deal-making territory, regardless of the current dispute surrounding the time frame – the “phase in” or “make whole” stuff – of implementing the ~50/50 split.

If Tyler’s numbers are right, and they seem to be, even under the NHL’s conservative 5% growth projection the gap between the two sides after the PA’s most recent proposals is below $490 million over a six-year CBA. Dellow breaks it down to $81 million a season, or 2.7 million per team per season. James Mirtle puts a percentage estimate of the gap at 3% of HRR.

These are numbers to keep in mind as both sides continue to squeeze for additional concessions. So too is the fact that last week was not the first time Bettman has described the league’s proposal as its best and last. It doesn’t make the whole process any less horrible, and this is not to suggest that greed is always logical or that the final concessions will come easily, but the numbers simply don’t add up to a lost season. They never have.

Hopefully common sense prevails.

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A few quick Leafs links for your Wednesday morning…

James van Riesmdyk pondering Finland
Sounds like JvR is ready to sign for Tampere of the Finnish premiere league once this week’s deadline passes.

The Outsiders: Marlies Defencemen
Gus Katsaros takes an in-depth look at the Marlies D-men with an outside shot at some NHL time this season.

Is Johnny Bower the greatest ever Maple Leaf goalie?
Dave Stubbs with a nice tribute to Johnny Bower, voted the Leafs best all-time goalie on the team’s facebook page.

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  • Burtonboy

    Yeah he’s been an a tear for sure . 

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  • Burtonboy

    Anyway thats enough for me.getting late here .. Fuck the god dam CBA and I hope they all lose their fucking shirts. If they want to commit hari kari I might just help them out 

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  • djamon

    Interesting stuff.

    One thing stood out…the PA offered a 49M Cap as long as it WASN’T linked to revenue. But the Owners wanted Cost Certainty so payrolls had to be linked.

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  • djamon

    Have a good one.

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  • wiski

    In the end it worked out pretty good for them what are we at now 70 million. lol

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  • wiski

    Cheers BB

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  • MSM

    Something like 9 teams were losing money when the players were taking home 73% of revenues, now 18 teams losing money with players taking 57% of revenues.

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  • http://twitter.com/J_hardt Hardt

    On a non CBA note,

    Lupul – Bozak – Kessel
    James – Connolly – Frattin
    Clarke – Grabovski – Kulemin
    Komo – Steckel – Brown
    Kadri? – Kadri? –  Kadri?
               McClemment
               Lombardi
               Colborne

    Why the hell would we have added McClemment to this line-up of medium talent at Centre? Anyone else smell those sweet winds of trade?

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  • keon

    Because he may be able to kill penalties? Unlike any Leaf in the past hundred years

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  • http://twitter.com/J_hardt Hardt

    wasn’t implying he’s not a good player …

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  • wiski

    How the hell does that happen?

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  • Waiting4LSC

    Linkage of cap floor???

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  • wiski

    Bingo that would explain it, wouldn’t it?

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  • OBIE

    He’s a third line specialist with a good penalty killing record. Shut down guy who played against the top lines in the west. Somebody could be moved once the league gets rolling again

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  • wiski

    Pension Plan Puppets ‏@mlse
    Midweek Lockout Musings http://sbn.to/Th373L 
    simple math

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  • MSM

    Probably part of it. Insane contract signings like Kovi probably part of it too. Or teams like Tampa whose wouldn’t have any losses if they hadn’t signed Vinnie to nearly $8 mil until 2020. Or the Islanders who, even though he left the NHL in 2007, are still paying Yashin $2.4 million a year, and will be for three more seasons. Owners and managers need protection from themselves.

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  • bobsyouruncle

    I mentioned this a while back. It seems like Bettman’s desire for more competitive teams, as part of his attempt to get a bigger tv contract, is causing more teams to lose money and increased losses for those who were already losing. All because of the increase in the floor and linking it to the cap by the fixed $16M figure.

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  • Kurt!!

    I would like that more if it was from a current scout haha 

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  • Kurt!!

    anyone have a link to rielly goal??

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  • MSM

    I’d also include the owners history of overspending like drunken sailors. Even before the cap, a player like Paul Kariya was making way back $10 million in 1999. Sergi Federov made $14 million in 1998. Federov didn’t ask for $14 million. He was offered that amount by Carolina and Detroit was forced to match. Great business model. Flash forward to last summer and Edminton has started paying RFAs $6 million a year.

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  • Gilbert

    Sure it was mentioned but nice night by Leafs prospects
    Reilly-1 goal
    Percy- Goal and Assist
    Biggs- 2 goals
    Brown – 1 goal

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  • Joe_17

     eventually someone will post a good one, but i think this is it
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iRbXqPzo0A

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