Marlies Open Thread

by on November 9, 2012 in Toronto Marlies - 1,296 Comments

Marlies Open Thread
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Where it’s been positive information overall coming out of the CHL when it comes to Leafs prospects, the same can’t be said for the NHL hopefuls currently plying their trade with the Marlies one month into the AHL season.

While the Marlies came back in resounding fashion last night, finally finding some offense to the tune of four third period goals, it was no thanks to the prospects we were hoping to take the next step or at least challenge for it in Joe Colborne, Nazem Kadri, or Ben Scrivens (no disrespect to Carter Ashton, who it was nice to see make an impact last night).

Playing on a line together, Kadri and Colborne were up to absolutely nothing last night and were pointless in a game featuring six Marlie goals. Kadri has just 3 assists in 9 games this season, while Colborne has four assists and also hasn’t scored yet. Ben Scrivens’ numbers are less than flattering through six games and I wouldn’t describe him as playing well in any game since the season opener.

Let’s turn this over to Anthony Petrielli, with some thoughts on the Kadri and Colborne scratching and the Marlies’ struggles:

Nazem Kadri and Joe Colborne played on a line together last night, and are both being healthy scratched for the Marlies game tonight. It’s early in the season, and wouldn’t be getting this much attention if the NHL season was on like it should be, but it’s still noteworthy.

This is a time when Kadri and Colborne have management and coaches full attention, and due to that they should be taking advantage of it and showing everyone why they are both NHL ready. Instead, both have struggled out of the gate. It is worth pointing out that most players on the team are underachieving too, but at the same time, most players don’t have the potential or expectations that either Kadri or Colborne do. That’s just the reality of the situation.

Both have been placed on a variety of different lines, whether it be Kadri playing with Aucoin, McKegg or Zigomanis on different units, or Colborne centering wingers like Komarov, Ashton, and even Kadri too. On one hand, it’s understandable why Eakins has been moving pieces around because he needs to find line combos and his team has largely been in a funk. Conversely, it can make it tough for players to find consistency and build rapports with their line mates. It’s an age old debate in hockey.

The weight of not scoring has clearly gotten to Kadri as he’s gotten back to being a little too
individualistic. At one point last night against Houston, he tried to go through three opposing players at the offensive blueline. When a player is struggling, the best thing to do is usually just keep it simple, get in on the forecheck, put pucks on net, go to the net, etc. Kadri tends to hold onto the puck more when he isn’t scoring. Instead, Kadri should be doing things like this.

He’ll snap out of it though, he’s too good not to. He did have a nice hit against Abbotsford, by the way.

Joe Colborne simply hasn’t been getting dirty enough. He’s losing puck along the wall, not getting to the front of the net enough, and has only 11 shots in nine games. That’s not nearly good enough for a player of his talent and size. Maybe we’ll see something when Colborne returns that suggests when he gets pissed off he uses his size effectively and dominates, but to this point, we have rarely seen that from him and it definitely leaves something to be desired. I would be remiss, however, if I didn’t point out against Abbotsford I saw him put the puck between a defender’s legs, dance around him to the outside, then get robbed by the goalie on a wraparound attempt.

More than anything, as you can probably gather, both players have been too cute. They have each been getting some chances, but the Marlies rightfully expect more, and right now they are benching them because of that. The Marlies have a deep team, but these two should still be leaders on it. Gardiner is clearly just that on the backend, and you can plainly see he’s an NHL player in a lower league… Kadri and Colborne haven’t shown that kind of dominance or superiority yet, this year.

One player I did want to point out quickly is Spencer Abbott. Signed out of Maine last year,
Abbott has found himself watching a lot of games so far this year due to Toronto’s depth, but he’s gotten some chances lately to play and he has looked very, very good. In the first period alone against Houston, he setup Aucoin and Komarov for one-timers in the slot that both missed, and also had a ridiculous behind the back pass to Aucoin in the second. Even with none of those passes being buried, he still notched two assists. Abbott hasn’t shot much yet, but man can he really move the puck. He thinks the game at an extremely high level and is someone to definitely keep an eye on.

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  • JVR

    Wow, I can’t say I’m surprised that Kadri is being benched, as he is clearly in a slump, but I’m slightly surprised that Colborne is watching from the press box tonight, seeing as he was showing flashes of dominance.

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  • rustynail

    Looking forward to seeing how Abbott progresses even though he goes to Roberts in the off season. Thanks for the comments Anthony.

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  • Pent_House

    Good move by Eakins, these guys need to get the message and stop playing like bums 

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  • Whalz

    Biggs with an assist,

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  • Anthony Petrielli

    Forgot he works out with Roberts in the summer.

    Hoping to start contributing regularly again shortly. Just been busy lately. 

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  • Whalz

    Matt Finn with an assist…

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  • Tim Horton

    Was just about to post OHL stats so far but looks like ya’ll have it covered…
    Well here it is anyway.

    Biggs – 1 assist
    Finn – 1 assist – Finn now with 18 points in 20 games and leads all D in goals.
    Brown 1 goal – 1 assist.  Connor Brown now is 2nd in the OHL in goals.

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  • luisad

     thanks for the update.

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  • luisad

    Good move by Eakins to bench both Kadri and Colborne. They need a little kick in the butt. 

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  • Dangle_My_Berries

    Light a fire under the kids…..its what they need

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  • phaneufoundlander

    Kadri reminds me of Spezza a few years ago….he too, thought he was too good to be in the minors…Kadri needs to realize it takes a lot of hard work.

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  • Waiting4LSC

    Looking forward to it. Do you know if Mislav is still with the site?

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  • http://www.hockey-nerd.com Cameron

    When did Kadri say he was too good to be in the minors?

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  • Whalz

    I’ve been flipping back and forth between oshawa/barrie. Sar/ Guelph games….

    But majoirty of time is watching Biggs play,,,,he is gonna be a force…..

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  • rustynail

    You didn’t take the short trip over to Austin?

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  • Anthony Petrielli

    Haven’t been told otherwise. I think, just like me, he’s been busy lately. Alec and I have been holding off on really going overboard with Marlies coverage just yet cause we’d like to think the season might start up soon-ish. But eventually..

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  • luisad

     got in touch with him the other day. He seems to be really busy

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  • rustynail

    Clayton Hansler ‏@chansler
    Game time decision – Ross in, Ryan out. #MarliesLive

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  • http://www.twitter.com/jmckelvie Gettin Rielled Up

    Holy fuck boys the shit is really hitting the fan for the NHLPA tonight. It’s hard to trump the owners when you’re trumping yourselves.

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  • Dangle_My_Berries

    What happened?

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  • http://www.twitter.com/jmckelvie Gettin Rielled Up

    Do you have twitter?. Specifically… tweets from Aaron Portzline and Michael Russo.. read them.

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  • Yaknowwhat

    I’ve said it before…heck of alot easier to keep 30 guys in line..than 700…..

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  • rustynail

    Its covered in the previous thread too

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  • Yaknowwhat

    What was said?

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  • rustynail

    John Boruk ‏@JohnBorukCSN
    If you’re the NHLPA, you TAKE it!! “@Russostrib: #NHL offering 50/50, willing to honor all contracts plus interest http://www.startribune.com/spo… …”

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