Marlies Open Thread

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Marlies Open Thread
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Where it’s been positive information overall coming out of the CHL when it comes to Leafs prospects, the same can’t be said for the NHL hopefuls currently plying their trade with the Marlies one month into the AHL season.

While the Marlies came back in resounding fashion last night, finally finding some offense to the tune of four third period goals, it was no thanks to the prospects we were hoping to take the next step or at least challenge for it in Joe Colborne, Nazem Kadri, or Ben Scrivens (no disrespect to Carter Ashton, who it was nice to see make an impact last night).

Playing on a line together, Kadri and Colborne were up to absolutely nothing last night and were pointless in a game featuring six Marlie goals. Kadri has just 3 assists in 9 games this season, while Colborne has four assists and also hasn’t scored yet. Ben Scrivens’ numbers are less than flattering through six games and I wouldn’t describe him as playing well in any game since the season opener.

Let’s turn this over to Anthony Petrielli, with some thoughts on the Kadri and Colborne scratching and the Marlies’ struggles:

Nazem Kadri and Joe Colborne played on a line together last night, and are both being healthy scratched for the Marlies game tonight. It’s early in the season, and wouldn’t be getting this much attention if the NHL season was on like it should be, but it’s still noteworthy.

This is a time when Kadri and Colborne have management and coaches full attention, and due to that they should be taking advantage of it and showing everyone why they are both NHL ready. Instead, both have struggled out of the gate. It is worth pointing out that most players on the team are underachieving too, but at the same time, most players don’t have the potential or expectations that either Kadri or Colborne do. That’s just the reality of the situation.

Both have been placed on a variety of different lines, whether it be Kadri playing with Aucoin, McKegg or Zigomanis on different units, or Colborne centering wingers like Komarov, Ashton, and even Kadri too. On one hand, it’s understandable why Eakins has been moving pieces around because he needs to find line combos and his team has largely been in a funk. Conversely, it can make it tough for players to find consistency and build rapports with their line mates. It’s an age old debate in hockey.

The weight of not scoring has clearly gotten to Kadri as he’s gotten back to being a little too
individualistic. At one point last night against Houston, he tried to go through three opposing players at the offensive blueline. When a player is struggling, the best thing to do is usually just keep it simple, get in on the forecheck, put pucks on net, go to the net, etc. Kadri tends to hold onto the puck more when he isn’t scoring. Instead, Kadri should be doing things like this.

He’ll snap out of it though, he’s too good not to. He did have a nice hit against Abbotsford, by the way.

Joe Colborne simply hasn’t been getting dirty enough. He’s losing puck along the wall, not getting to the front of the net enough, and has only 11 shots in nine games. That’s not nearly good enough for a player of his talent and size. Maybe we’ll see something when Colborne returns that suggests when he gets pissed off he uses his size effectively and dominates, but to this point, we have rarely seen that from him and it definitely leaves something to be desired. I would be remiss, however, if I didn’t point out against Abbotsford I saw him put the puck between a defender’s legs, dance around him to the outside, then get robbed by the goalie on a wraparound attempt.

More than anything, as you can probably gather, both players have been too cute. They have each been getting some chances, but the Marlies rightfully expect more, and right now they are benching them because of that. The Marlies have a deep team, but these two should still be leaders on it. Gardiner is clearly just that on the backend, and you can plainly see he’s an NHL player in a lower league… Kadri and Colborne haven’t shown that kind of dominance or superiority yet, this year.

One player I did want to point out quickly is Spencer Abbott. Signed out of Maine last year,
Abbott has found himself watching a lot of games so far this year due to Toronto’s depth, but he’s gotten some chances lately to play and he has looked very, very good. In the first period alone against Houston, he setup Aucoin and Komarov for one-timers in the slot that both missed, and also had a ridiculous behind the back pass to Aucoin in the second. Even with none of those passes being buried, he still notched two assists. Abbott hasn’t shot much yet, but man can he really move the puck. He thinks the game at an extremely high level and is someone to definitely keep an eye on.

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  • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

    I defecate on your avatar.

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  • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

    Wake n’ bake, kiddies.

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  • Whalz

    Get the ohl package!!! You can choose from 10 tonight……some cable companies might only charge 5.00 a month…..great way to watch our leaf prospects

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  • Doorman,s Bettsy

    It could be Worse!  It could be Dony Boy!!!  lol

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  • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

    At that point I would reach through my monitor and grab you by your avatar and punch you in the nose.

    Must roll a spliff now to calm myself down.

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  • Bob’s your uncle

    Add a bit of “Colorado” to that and you’ve got it all.  lol

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  • Doorman,s Bettsy

    Na!  Too Smokey!!!  lol

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  • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

    Didn’t they legalize pot on Colorado last week??

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  • Bob’s your uncle

    People of the state voted it legal for recreational use.

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  • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

    So….I guess all the optimism that was building up throughout the last week….is dead.  That fucking sucks!!!  Bettman should pull the plug on the whole season.  Watch the players pony up to the bargaining table after that.  Ultimately they are going to lose…..just depends on how badly they intend to lose.

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  • http://twitter.com/bcphockeyblog Blue Chip Prospects

    Red-hot Connor Brown against newly-assertive Tyler Biggs at 7:00!

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  • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

    I wish our govt would put marijuana to a vote.  Oh, I forgot…Ontario doesn’t have a leader anymore.

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  • Knights2Leafs

    I’ve got it.  I just meant there are no O games on this afternoon.  I’d rather watch hockey than NCAA football.  Plus the Knights play in Plymouth tonight and those games aren’t televised.

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  • Bob’s your uncle

    Nothing more than gut feeling but I think we have a season and this thing gets settled in the next 2-3 weeks.

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  • Knights2Leafs

    Isn’t it in Erie, so not on TV?

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  • Doorman,s Bettsy

    I dont know!  I think Dony boy is playing games.  At what point does Bettsy say fuck you;  Here is our final offer;  Take it; or leave it!

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  • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

    That’s what I see happening.  Bettman won’t put up with Fehr’s bullshit for very long.  IMO, Bettman wants to save the US TV contract (that’s supposed to start Nov 23rd).  However, if that’s not salvageable….he will shut down the season like he did in ’04/05.  I imagine Fehr is already getting a ton of pressure from some of the players to get this thing resolved.  If Bettman shuts down the season….the players will revolt against Fehr and they will end up on the losing end of the stick after a lost season (same as last time).  Fehr may overplay his hand here figuring he did it in baseball so he can do it here….but I don’t think it will have the same result as MLB.

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  • wiski

    Nick Cotsonika ‏@cotsonika
    CBA situation is simple: Both sides have too much to lose, but both know it. Each still waiting for other to break. #chicken

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  • Doorman,s Bettsy

    So who is going to be the chicken???

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  • TheCanucksnaphook

    I thought I was sick of this bullshit before….now its just out of control.

    Both sides man the fuck up and lets get back to the ice.

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  • Doorman,s Bettsy

    Did you try Bailey,s and coffee yet!  I got one going;  MMMMM!

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  • wiski

    They should meet in the middle and drop the facking puck already. ;)

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  • TheCanucksnaphook

    Shit I am still struggling with the concept of drinking during the day.  That and I am working night shift=no drinking period.

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  • wiski

    Nice to see the Marlies won without big Joe and Kadri.

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  • Bob’s your uncle

    To me it seems that the NHL wants a season. Fehr sees that and presses for more on top of any offer the NHL makes until he thinks he can’t get any more. I think by taking his time now on the main issue he will soften the NHL on peripheral concerns like free agency etc. that they have been trying to claw back. I think that by being a hard ass now he gets them to drop most of those, not wanting to waste more time later. As a negotiator I expect Fehr to do every bit of this.

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