10 Leafs-Related Thoughts and Questions

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10 Leafs-Related Thoughts and Questions
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With the lockout in full force, I thought I’d try to get you all thinking about this actual Leafs team again. Take my word for it: eventually, even if the season is completely wiped out, NHL hockey will again be played and a new Leafs season will begin. When that happens, as is our nature, we will all get back to arguing with each other about various Leaf-related topics. On a chilly Tuesday in the dead of the lockout (snow doesn’t have the same appeal without the Leafs on the TV at night, does it?), here’s ten things to fill your time thinking about:

1. If there’s one thing that generally got overlooked about the Leafs acquiring James Van Riemsdyk, it’s that he represents a safety net should the Leafs lose Joffrey Lupul to free agency. This is currently the last year of Lupul’s four year, $17M deal, making him a UFA next summer. According to the last lockout’s rules, he’s a free agent whether there is a season or not this year. We all know the story with Lupul from last year – stayed healthy for the first time in years, teamed up with Phil Kessel to light the league up, was top five in league scoring for most of the year –  but if he wants to be paid upward of $5M per year over a long term, who thinks the Leafs are going to dish that out with JVR in the fold? Dave Nonis said that JVR and Phil Kessel are part of their main of core forwards moving forward, and when we were speaking with Dave Poulin for Lindy’s magazine, he all but implied that the whole JVR-to-center thing was mainly about getting he and Kessel to begin playing together. This isn’t to suggest the Leafs aren’t going to attempt to resign Lupul, but it is definitely saying that the Leafs don’t have to dish out the dough to keep a guy who is coming off a slightly over point per game season after numerous injury plagued and underachieving ones.

2. Further to that point, if the Leafs don’t resign Lupul or Clarke MacArthur, that leaves a ripe top six winger spot for Nazem Kadri to lock up alongside Mikhail Grabovski and Nikolai Kulemin on the second line. We could then finally get a real, extended look at Kadri in the NHL. I’d be remiss if I didn’t point out how unfortunate it would be if the Leafs lost MacArthur to free agency after declining to trade him for what was thought to be a conditional pick that could have turned into a second round pick at last year’s deadline. It’s not Burke’s fault there is a lockout, and he couldn’t have completely known at that point in time that a full year lockout was a legitimate possibly, but it would kind of hurt to lose a player like that for nothing.

3. A reasonable time to begin preparing for an impending lockout? The summer, when negotiations were sparse and time was ticking. The Leafs added some veterans to their organization in Mike Kostka, Keith Aucoin, Dylan Yeo while retaining older players like Mike Zigomanis and Ryan Hamilton. The Marlies have played nearly a quarter of their season at this point, and to date kids like Spencer Abbott and Brad Ross have only played five and four games respectively. Other young prospects such as Greg McKegg and Jesse Blacker have gotten into more action, but are being played in limited roles with limited ice time. Sure, everybody wants to see the Marlies win, but at the same time the main priority has to be getting prospects ready to graduate to the next level. The question at the end of the day is this: who has a better chance of being a productive Leaf, five to ten years from now, kids like Blacker, McKegg, Abbott and Ross, or Aucoin, Kostka, and the like? It’s not a knock against the veterans, most of who have played well, but it is discouraging to see kids not get ice time and develop in the AHL. And it needs to be emphasized that this is still the AHL.

4. Anyway, back to the Leafs. Should the lockout go the full year, Toronto will enter next season with a defense of Phaneuf, Komisarek, Liles, Gardiner, Holzer and Franson, which is what they have now. Assuming Komisarek gets bought out with a prospective amnesty clause  (admittedly no guarantees there), that opens up the remaining spot for Morgan Rielly to come in and grab it. Regardless, that leaves the Leafs defense with their four best defencemen as Phaneuf, Gunnarsson, Gardiner and Liles, all of whom are lefties. Phaneuf already plays the right side, Gunnarsson has formed a strong pairing with Dion, while Liles is a veteran in the league who has generally played the left side during his career. Point being, are the Leafs or Marlies at this point going to start toying with Gardiner on the right side? He’s played mainly on the left with Mike Kostka, but it may benefit the Leafs to start getting him acclimated to playing on the right. Even if the Leafs do eventually come to terms with Franson, he hasn’t proven he can be a legitimate top four D-man, and it would take an even bigger leap of faith to expect Holzer to fill that role. Even if Ranger makes the Leafs, he too is a lefty. On top of that, Rielly can still only play in the WHL or NHL next year, and he looks ready for the next level, so it would be a shame to have a logjam of good left handed D in Gunnarsson, Liles and Gardiner blocking the way for him. At this point, it’s not too early to start thinking about next year.

5. I would be willing to bet that, had the NHL season started on time like it should have, the Leafs would have reasonably been comfortable going in with a healthy James Reimer and a Ben Scrivens who was coming off an excellent season in the AHL.This of course takes into account the Leafs not acquiring Luongo. Now, if you’re Brian Burke watching Scrivens’ slow start, it might be making him think twice about what he’ll give up to get a goalie. It’s still early in the season and Scrivens has only played 11 games, but if he continues to be relatively average –I’m being nice – that’s going to have to force management to think twice. It’s funny how the lockout can affect situations like this.

6. Leo Komarov’s time in North America is done for now, but it’s safe to say he made a positive impression. With six goals and nine points in 14 games, he showed he can contribute on this side of the pond, albeit in the AHL, and he was also his pesky self  (Komarov was suspended for one game and also had 22 PIMs). The most underrated part of his game, though, might have been his ability to be a net presence on the power play, screen the goalie, and bank in rebounds and tip pucks. At the end of the day he probably makes the Leafs as a fourth liner with Mike Brown and either Steckel or McClement centering him, but it’s nice to have a player that can bring you something dynamic like that in the bottom of your roster – that hasn’t been the case in recent seasons.

7. Matt Frattin is always a player that invites popular debate in terms of what his upside is, but the real question has to be this: what are the Leafs going to employ him as? Is there any doubt that he can be a 20+ goal scorer if he plays consistently on the second line with Mikhail Grabovski and gets steady power play time with his shot, skill, and physicality? There shouldn’t be. At the same time, he’s one of the Leafs’ better defensive wingers at the moment and Carlyle likes physical shutdown lines. Everyone can argue about Frattin all they want until their face turns blue, but it’s really in the Leafs’ hands. Considering Carlyle had Frattin playing with Kessel for games at a time down the stretch, my bett is that he’ll see more offensive opportunities than not.

8. The most interesting possible UFA-to-be on the Leafs, to me, is Tyler Bozak. How much does a guy like that get to demand after playing between two wingers who were lights-out? Bozak has his detractors, but he has steadily improved since entering the NHL and is excellent in the faceoff circle. Considering Steckel is also a UFA, it’s not crazy to think that the Leafs let Steckel walk, retain Bozak, and drop McClement to the fourth line. Then again, who would Carlyle’s “shutdown” line be centered by if that were the case? With so many UFAs upcoming, a lot of young players on the Marlies, and a relatively deep free agent pool, this team may get a dramatic facelift from the last one we saw when the league starts up again.

9. For your perusal, here is the potential free agent class for next season as of this moment. Have fun with the possibilities.

10. Your say: At this point in time, from a Leafs perspective, would you rather watch half of a tainted season, or have a legitimate chance at getting Nathan MacKinnon? Be honest.

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  • 4evrblue

    how DARE you propose teaming up with the Habs on anything!! Should be ashamed of yourself!! lol

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  • 4evrblue

    we should see how he does with team Canada soon. He’ll have oodles of talent backing him up then :)

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  • WendelGilmour

    Andrew Engalage maybe? I’m not sure whether we have anyone.

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  • phaneufoundlander

    hmmmm, maybe I shudda gave it some more thought, lets see, you were drinking on a Tuesday night and now your hungover, maybe you are spoiled lol

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  • phaneufoundlander

    I just got ill….

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  • 4evrblue

    lol I’m a construction worker and we shut down for the season yesterday so I got liquored up to celebrate :)

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  • JVR

    hmm, just watching Hockey Central and PK Subban is on.

    They pointed out to him that if the Union decertifies, he and all current RFAs will become UFAs. 

    PK stated that changes everything.  Wonder if he’d be walking away from the schabs, lol!!

    I’d love to see him in the Blue and White!!

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  • 4evrblue

    that would definitely be interesting. 

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  • phaneufoundlander

    and you deserve it man, you poor buggars bust your ass for 8-9 months of the year, 12 hour days in the blazing sun….what would we do if it weren’t for construction workers?!… I guess we’d never get off the ground…pun intended lol

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  • 4evrblue

    stop it, you’re making me blush lol

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  • phaneufoundlander

    I despise that guy, and so good as he is I would not want him on the Leafs, the slew footing, the turtling, the trash talking and spitting is not something we need..he belongs where he is with the rest of the turtlers.

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  • 4evrblue

    actually lookin for a winter job now though lol. no rest for the weary

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  • phaneufoundlander

    Im taken lol

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  • phaneufoundlander

    Take a few weeks off man, when you get bored, go back

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  • Marlies Man

     LOL, I know I felt my fingers burning as I typed that.

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  • Dangle_My_Berries

    ya its a photo taken shortly after he took that puck to the face last season. Swollen worse then a chipmunk…gotta give him props, cause he played through it without a face mask

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  • Marlies Man

     That’s from that puck he took in the face last year … who was it shot it? Man, that was ridiculous! He looks insane.

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  • phaneufoundlander

    true, gotta give him credit, setting a good example for the rookies

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  • phaneufoundlander

    I thought he was dead, it was a lazer to the chops….

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  • Marlies Man

    You remember who shot it? Escaping me there now.

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  • Dangle_My_Berries

    for sure, only saving grace is dions chin is probably thicker then the average mans lol

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  • Ensign

    Ladd

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  • 4evrblue

    Im already bored!! lol. I may take the winter off to build my house if the city will get my building permit straightened out already. Originally put my application in in March.

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  • B_Leaf

    If the season were to start Dec 15th I think the Leafs would be a lottery team. And in fact I think we need to be a lottery team in order to acquire a legit front line centre. The up coming draft is set up very nice for the Leafs. If by some miracle the could snag McKinnon or Barkov that would be great, however even getting Monahan or Lazar could be a tremendous building block.
    If there is a short season I really think the Leafs still need to focus on future development. It would be a great time to get Gardiner, Frattin, Kadri, Komarov, Scrivens, and Reimer lots of ice time at this level. We might even try Rielly in nine games to see if he should fit. One reason I would bring Rielly up is because his junior team is really bad. If there were no injury concerns he may be better developed at the NHL level…nine games should demonstrate that. This season could also be used to see how Ranger, Holzer, or Fraser fit in the line-up over some time.
    Even though this team would have some toughness and sandpaper in the form of Phaneuf, Komarov, Frattin, Kulemin, Lupul, Grabovski and a few others, the fact is this team is still way too soft. Having Kessel, Kadri, Bozak, Gardiner, Liles, and some others playing significant minutes without some bigger and tougher guys around them is going to make the lottery a strong possibility.
    This team is essentially a high quality centre, a power forward, and a big physical defenceman away from being a good team. I think we have the goaltending but it will take a little time to mature. The physical issues may be addressed in time if Biggs, Leivo, Broll, or Devane develop in various ways so that a couple of them can play meaningful minutes in particular roles. If Biggs could play meaningful minutes on the third line and Broll on the fourth line that could do it…but it will take time. We have a surplus of young PMDs that could see one moved. And hopefully the 2013 draft could address a key need.
    Potentially, hypothetically, if we drafted Monahan, if we traded Gardiner for Evander Kane, bring in Rielly, resign Lupul, and add a free agent like Getzlaf, Perry, or Clowe, and develop some of our D like Ranger, Holzer, or Fraser to add size and sandpaper that could set us up alot stronger. We have the cap room. If Reimer and Scrivens fall flat this year there are UFA goalies this summer we could consider like Thomas. I doubt Burke would hire Thomas be we could flame Burke making room for a winner like Thomas.

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  • Mind Bomb

     And for all you Political Peeps out there, Obama Joking Around

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