A dash of cautious optimism

by on December 5, 2012 in Morning Mashup - 2,772 Comments

A dash of cautious optimism
Photo: Associated Press, courtesy of Sportsnet
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Long since dead and buried is any hockey fan holding their breath after every sign of optimism throughout the last 12 weeks of off-and-on negotiations. Cautious optimism isn’t a new development, but it’s up to you to determine if it has a different feel to it this time around. One of the Fehrs and Bill Daly standing side by side talking progress certainly is a first.

What Daly and Fehr said yesterday wasn’t anything particularly groundbreaking, but there they were standing beside each other sharing in one another’s semi-optimism. Daly thanked the sizeable group of negotiating players for putting in a hard day of productive negotiations, and Steve Fehr went as far as to say it might possibly have been their best day of them yet. At least, “in some ways.”

Anyways, the two sides do appear to be buckling down with this new approach to solving what seems to be a resolvable gap (in terms of the make-whole sticking point) with around 55 games left on the uncanceled portion of the schedule.

From Craig Custance:

Armed with the revenue and expense data that only the league and its teams have, economists say the league can project almost to the date when it becomes less beneficial to hold out for a better CBA and more beneficial to start playing hockey.

We may have finally reached that point. Hope, I think there’s reason to, but I’ll leave anything beyond that to Steve Burton.

Wednesday morning Leafs links..

Four Leafs on World Junior Preliminary Rosters
Tyler Biggs (USA), Garret Sparks (USA), Tom Nilsson (Sweden) and Morgan Rielly. Team USA has three goalies on the prelim roster and has to cut four bodies, so hopefully Sparks sticks.

The Colborne Conundrum
Gus Katsaros takes a really good in-depth look at the struggling Joe Colborne. Kats finishes off by asking: “Is it Joe Colborne the skilled player Burke and co envisioned? Or is it David Steckel adapting to a bottom six role.”

Even minus Murray, Canada’s defence looks powerful
A look at the strong Team Canada blueline that includes Morgan Rielly. The article include speculation of Rielly joining Dougie Hamilton in the top pairing. Because Leafs fans couldn’t just enjoy having one of the best D prospects in the game without hearing, “could’ve had Hamilton, too!”

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  • Joe_17

     what do you think of the torch? ive havent been touching BB at all – we dont make games that run on BB.

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  • Ensign

    I like it actually. I dont play games on my phone typically..its functional and i like the interface.

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  • Radar O’Rielly

    Latest Ted Nugent.

    http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/Ted-Nugent-To-Bob-Costas–Get-A-Clue-182034941.html

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  • Radar O’Rielly

    Nick Kypreos ‏@RealKyper
    “Flexibility” was the word most often used by the #NHL reps in yesterdays meetings. Today the #NHLPA will find out what exactly that means.

    Pants down and ankles around the head?

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  • rustynail

    I doubt the Canucks will want Liles contract and that will leave us with a pretty green D.

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  • rustynail

    Wow we agree on something. :)

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  • Burtonboy

    Jus spitballing Rusty 

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  • rustynail

    Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger
    NHL is trying to postpone Quebec Labor Board meetings in Montreal tomorrow and Fri. If CBA mtngs continue, B.Daly intends on staying in NYC.

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  • rustynail

    You know how I feel about getting Lou. :)

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  • Radar O’Rielly

    I see only 1 positive if Lou is playing for the Leafs.  Hockey is back on the ice, I would be ok with that.

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  • Ensign

    we have before.. just not often

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  • Burtonboy

    I’m more ambivalent about it then you  If the price is right and we don’t get hosed I’m ok with doing that deal. Hate the contract but hopefully they can work around it  

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  • Ensign

    he’s an upgrade to anything we have in net

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  • http://www.hockey-nerd.com Cameron

    Still doesn’t sound like much will change about Bettman’s previously revealed rules on contracts signed in the last CBA.  Still sounds to me like they’re working off that framework.  And it makes sense.  You have to set a precedence that trying to find ways to circumvent the system will be punished, or you’ll be dealing with new contract issues every time around.

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  • Burtonboy

    Hard to believe but I do agree with you on that . Not sure that will be the case in 3 yrs tho

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  • Ensign

    I don’t think anyone we have will be as good as Lou is/was in his prime. 

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  • http://www.hockey-nerd.com Cameron

    My concern is that Luongo takes us out of the lottery area, but not into the playoffs. In that situation,if we gave up anything of value for him…we lost. 

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  • http://www.hockey-nerd.com Cameron

    Is that really relevant though?  Are we getting a time machine with him?

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  • Burtonboy

    IMO the cap circuventionissues are the key for the league . They will fight for that . The rest can probably be easily resolved imo

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  • Burtonboy

    You never know Ensign. 

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  • Ensign

    You can’t always keep your team in a lottery position though. I think with good goaltending we make the playoffs.. unless the forwards shit the bed again and can’t score. We only lose that deal if the forwards can’t do their job.

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  • Ensign

    Nope.. never do…its just how I feel.

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  • http://www.hockey-nerd.com Cameron

    Right, but timing is everything, and if you were going to be bad, this is the year to do it. 

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  • Ensign

    I never advocate for tanking… I want BB trying to make the playoffs.

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  • Burtonboy

    Everyone has opinions right or wrong . Never change your mid if you truly believe in  what you stand for 

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