Better Know the Risk: Roberto Luongo

by on January 8, 2013 in Analysis - 459 Comments

Better Know the Risk: Roberto Luongo
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Yesterday, in his summary of the recapture penalty of the new CBA as it pertained to Roberto Luongo, the Vancouver Canucks and potentially the Toronto Maple Leafs, Pierre Lebrun figured out the cap penalty the Leafs would sustain if Brian Burke were to acquire Roberto Luongo before this season and he were to go on to retire at age 40. That can be seen as the foreseeable point of retirement for Luongo as after the 2018-19 season, when Luongo will be 40, his salary will have already dropped from $6,714,000 in 2017-18 to $3,382,000 in 2018-19, and will then stand to drop to just $1,618,000 in 2019-20.

However, that retirement plan is by no means a guarantee, as Luongo’s play could slip, his health could deteriorate (if he’s placed on LTIR, Elliotte Friedman is already speculating on a possible loophole here) or ideally he could win a Cup with the Leafs and opt for early retirement. The $3,382,000 season was probably projected as a “maybe” year, for instance. After the jump, I have put together a breakdown on the cap penalty the Leafs or another acquiring team would sustain depending on when Luongo hangs up the skates.

The following table is pretty easy to understand; if Luongo retires after the season listed, the cap penalty listed will be incurred for the duration of years left (2012-13 salary and cap hit were left at their full 2012-13 values instead of pro-rated).

Age
Season
Sal. Paid
Cap Hit
To. Sal. Paid
Total Cap Hit
Cap Savings
Years Left
Cap Penalty
352013-146,714,0005,333,33313,428,00010,666,6662,762,0008345,250
362014-156,714,0005,333,33320,142,00015,999,9994,142,0017591,714
372015-166,714,0005,333,33326,856,00021,333,3325,522,6686920,444
382016-176,714,0005,333,33333,570,00026,666,6656,903,33551,380,667
392017-186,714,0005,333,33340,284,00031,999,9988,284,00242,071,000
402018-193,382,0005,333,33343,666,00037,333,3336,332,66732,110,889
412019-201,618,0005,333,33345,284,00042,666,6662,617,33421,308,667
422020-211,000,0005,333,33346,284,00047,999,999--10
432021-221,000,0005,333,33347,284,00053,333,332--00

It’s not pretty if Luongo retires between the ages of 37 and 40. Depending on whether or not he’s still a good goaltender, it’s also not necessarily pretty if Luongo pulls a Chelios, either, as that still charges the cap with a 5,333,333 hit for every season he’s still in the league. And there’s no such thing as dumping players in the minors anymore under the new Collective Bargaining Agreement.

The more you look at these figures, you start to conclude the following: Luongo would probably be a big upgrade in net and well worth the $5.33 million cap hit for the next 5-6 years, but will probably become a burden of some degree after that. What many of us pro-Luongo types did not foresee was the cap benefit recapture penalty punishing teams that trade for the back-diving contract as well as the team that signed it. Under the old rules, Luongo would be off the cap books as soon as he retired. Under what we were expecting would happen with the cap benefit recapture rule in the new CBA, only the Canucks would sustain the blowback once Luongo retired before the expiration of his contract. As it turns out… not the case.

If Luongo retires relatively early, the Leafs may only be dealing with a cap hit of $1 million, but could be paying it for up to 5 or 6 years. Not preferred, obviously, but not intractable either. Worst case scenario is Luongo retiring at 39 or 40 and the Leafs incurring a $2 million and change cap hit for a retired player for the following three or four years. Best case is Luongo performing well until retirement at age 41 and only costing $1.3 million on the cap for two more years.

Is 5 or so good years of Luongo worth this probable blowback? Especially if he can be had on the cheap (trade cost wise)? Could Gillis be desperate enough to move his cap hit (with $60 mill committed to 13 players next season) that he’ll be willing to retain some of his salary, helping to reduce the penalty? Either way, I say ‘aye.’ Development is random and stability is imperative at this position. It’s worth mentioning the last two goaltenders the Leafs had that were any good were both acquired well past 30. And who knows if $1 or 2 million matters all that much once the cap starts rising again.

What say you, MLHS?

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  • Skip2myLUUUUUU

    Reimer is our weak link.

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  • bear1919

    that makes sense for both teams.
    Leafs would send Reimer most likely.

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  • bear1919

    RC was expecting Gards at camp

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  • jagith

    Burke should walk away from this trade. all together.. let the canucks suffer… not good for us in the future…. Luongo will probably have 4 more good years… then what… no thank you…

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  • jimmy

    keep your washed up goalie vancouver we leaf fans dont need another arrogant washup in net weve had our fill.reimer will stick around

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  • Matthew

    James Reimer is a good goltender. He’s proved that to the coach and fans, but Roberto Luongo is even better. I would like to see Reimer stay but I don’t think thats gonna happen. If the trade goes through the deal is gonna be bozak and kadri or bozak and reimer. The canucks wants bozak to replace kesler since his recovery isn’t going to well, therefore within the week your going to Luongo in a Leafs jersey.

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  • Mike Bosse

    Thanks but no thanks to Luongo….haw many fans realize we’re still paying Darcy Tucker a million a year???? There better options to pursue than Luongo. I for one would be eying up  Backstrom in Minnesota who is 6M for 1 season…giving Reimer the time and mentor ship he needs.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jason-Lindros/100003553970332 Jason Lindros

    Fuck Canuck Fans…Fuck Luongo…Fuck Mike Gillis and fuck those green-men assholes. GO LEAFS GO!!! May Luongo stay at the top of Capgeek.com’s most popular buy-out list…FOREVER!!!

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  • Phillip Vonesh

    I say we pick him up, I think it will be a deal to help the canucks win now. The leafs will send Bozak, MacArthur, and Liles for Luongo and Ballard. 

    Canucks Get:Bozak gives the  Canucks better depth at centre, and MacArthur more depth on wing, both are top nine forwards. Liles gives the Canucks a puck moving defenceman that hopefully isn’t as useless as ballard. The Canucks will receive 8.625 in accumulative cap hits, Bozak and Macarthur are both pending UFAs and are low risk acquisitions. If Liles doesn’t work out they can always buy him out after the season, as they would have with Ballard. 

    Leafs Get:
    Luongo, a legitimate #1 goalie, hopefully improves the team’s abysmal goals against average, penalty kill, and continues to be a top ten goalie for the next five years or so, or until Reimer or Scrivens or whoever usurps him in Toronto ala Corey Schneider in Vancouver. The leafs also pick up Keith Ballard who is a body, can make a mean hipcheck/clip and would probably be bought out in the summer. Luongo and Ballard’s caphits add up to  9.53 which means the leafs are picking up just .908 in capspace. 

    This would hopefully help the Canucks to win this year and help the leafs get into the playoffs and hopefully begin a new era of competitive hockey in Toronto. 

    Thoughts?

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