Jake Gardiner sent down to Marlies

he was traded to Nashville on Feb 17, 2012

I think Gardiner is a terrific player…no doubt. Saying I think PK is better right now than Gardiner is in no way meant as a slight to Jake. They bring different things, IMO.

But you can’t in any way say that PK played “sheltered” minutes…it’s simply not true. He played all types of minutes…both PP and PK. He’s physical, willing to fight, with just as much offensive upside as Gardiner. Not to mention he’s an articulate local kid who seems to come from a great family.

This isn’t the same as the terrible Kessel deal, if that’s what you’re getting at, BTW. We’re not in the middle of a dismantle and it isn’t 3 high picks we’re talking about…just one. A top pairing defenseman is also far more valuable than a winger.

But at the end of the day a 16M/4 year deal is definitely matched. So it’s irrelevant.

I know they need to keep him for the season-but so what? If he plays really well the return will be even higher. 

Again, you have little to go on here except his total time on ice, which Gardiner proves is a bit of a farce.  You didn’t even know who was on the team, but you were willing to comment about who was in what role. I don’t deny that Subban didn’t always get sheltered minutes, but the fact is, he wasn’t doing Dion’s job, and that’s what a lot of people are trying to sell this guy as.

Ha.

We need a douche bag on this team, that, a goalie and a center and we’re set!

When? Last year? That’s patently false. Diaz is an OFFENSIVE d-man.

Yep, and yet they often felt more comfortable with him on the ice than Subban.  But really, for most of the year it was Gill and Gorges, and then Subban took over the role out of necessity after the deadline.
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Regardless, he’s a good player who could be great.  Lets just leave it at that.

I hate the Habs, but Subban’s a beast. He really does it all. I think he’d be our #1.

I wasnt suggesting PK was a  prospect. The Leafs have been drafting D in the top 2 rounds for a # of years. i ts time to bolster the 1C and goaltending.

pk as douche bag would b a fit

No. He’s not as good as Dion is. He plays the same role for the Habs as Dion does for the Leafs, but Phaneuf still gets a bigger share of his team’s ice time. Subban is very good, but Phaneuf is still better. It really doesn’t matter, though. If we got Subban, he’d be paired with Dion.