Morning Mashup: COMPLY!

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It’s been awhile. How do these work again?

Seriously. Despite Tweeting up a storm during the playoffs, I haven’t written anything since January. Call it a combination of hell the lockout sucking the passion out of me and Burke’s firing amounting to a platinum-knuckled gut punch at the time. But new posts are coming, and I need your help!

(Not really. But it will be a lot easier and quicker if I crowd source opinions and call it research!)

Sometime soon, I want to go in-depth on compliance buyouts options for the Leafs. Because, y’know, we haven’t talked about those nearly enough. Or yesterday. If you can (and even though you probably already have, at length), please sound off in the comments below with one (or a combination) of the following options:

A) Who you would use the Leafs’ compliance buyouts on this summer? This question is stupid. We know who the targets will be.

B) Would you use one, or both?

C) Would you use neither of them? If so, why?

D) What are some intriguing massive contract targets in other organizations that we should try and obtain solely to buy out, if the deal includes the acquisition of a prime asset alongside them?

E) “Screw off, Matt. We’ve talked about this enough.”

F) E + “We literally spent all day talking about this under yesterday’s post. You’re just trying to get us to organize it for you.”

G) E + F + “Ugh, fine.”

I promise, if we get enough of “E” or “F”, I’ll actually not write it. Because that’s democracy, and I respect the process.

Morning Links!

Interesting points in Tuesday’s TSN Insider Trading about Letang’s future in Pittsburgh. I can’t, personally, imagine there not being one.

-Hossa will likely play tonight. That’s good news, for those of us who want to see the Bruins…oh, I don’t know. Fail?

-Ben Scrivens will march in Toronto’s Pride Parade on June 30, because no matter what you think of that weird way he holds his glove, he’s an awesome guy.

-Jonathan Bernier on the Maple Leafs makes no sen…ah, damn. Cam Charron @ TLN beat me to that headline, and even explained why in detail.

-Cam also chimes in with a post on why David Clarkson is probably not worth the money someone will pay him. So I’m not the only one seeing (albeit undeniably better) shades of Colby Armstrong here?

-The Kings extended Slava Voynov for six years and $25 million yesterday. Someone on Twitter suggested that sets a dangerous precedent for Cody Franson’s upcoming negotiations. I think Cody Franson’s play sets a dangerous precedent for Cody Franson’s upcoming negotiations.

 

  • Optimustic

    Good morning and thanks for the questions Matt.  I’d trade for both compliance buyouts if the return is worth it.  The only bad contract we have left is Komi’s IMHO, and it’s only for this season.  I’m not wanting to help out another team just to be a good guy though, I want a sure thing coming back that’s still young. 
      If Gillis wants us to take Lou’s contract he’ll have to pay double, … just because.   It’s time some other Canadian team takes some of the spot light on bad deals If it were the Leafs we’d be hearing about from a different perspective.

  • HeatherRickAkin

    My question on compliance buyouts is this : is the talk largely a result of media and fan hype, or will there indeed be some earth moving deals, such as the Tampa and Long Island situations ? And if so, are the moneylaiden Leafs going to reap the benefits? With a lot of  “ifs” needing to fall in place, I suppose we shouldn’t get our hopes up too high . With the Leafs seeming to be on the cusp of being a very decent team, and only needing a couple or three smart moves to be there, its an exciting time. Hope this whole thing isn’t a mirage and Nonis is allowed to spend and spend and spend.

    • Burtonboy

      HeatherRickAkin I was just as skeptical as you Rick until Loiselle said in an interview they have actually discussed these types of deals. I’m still far from sold any team will do this yet but the fact they have talked about this is enough to take it our of the realm of fantasy and into the world of these’s a possibility .

      • Burtonboy

        canuckintheuk Burtonboy HeatherRickAkin Like I said I’m not convinced any of these deals will happen yet .

      • Burtonboy

        canuckintheuk Burtonboy HeatherRickAkin Yep I can see that . But like I’ve said all along with this stuff it had better be worth it. For 25 mil I want a player not some maybe

      • MaxwellHowe

        canuckintheuk Burtonboy HeatherRickAkin There may be other well-tto-do teams that would trade for a compliance buy-out.  Red Wings. Flames. Blackhawks. Bruins could afford it.  I don’t think the Leafs would be the only team fishing for a deal like this.

    • Zep2

      HeatherRickAkin The Leafs have the cash,  the motivation and a knew boss (Leiweke) to make   a Depietro or Lecavallier type deal.
      The question is , do they they have willing trade partners

    • Knights2Leafs

      HeatherRickAkin 
      I don’t think this is an issue of whether or not the Leafs are willing to spend…. they will if the right parts come back.  Some of these teams have to get rid of these contracts because of the back end cap restrictions and economically it makes sense in the long run to get rid of them.  The problem is it’s almost like they’re in denial.  They have to get over the inertia of doing the deal and the time frames are so tight for this year at least that it might come right down to the wire.  
      Yes, we should do a cap trade if the deal is right but we don’t need to.  Yes, these other teams need to do a cap trade and the difference is they really should for the long term interests of their teams.

  • Burtonboy

    Thanks for the mashup Jon. Got a feeling traffic is gonna be heavy on this site over the next month or so . Hope your up to the task lol

  • Burtonboy

    Thanks for the mashup Jon. Got a feeling traffic is gonna be heavy on this site over the next month or so . Hope your up to the task lol

  • Burtonboy

    Might as well throw up the link about Colorado not taking Jones with the 1st pick 

    http://www.tsn.ca/Toronto/

    • Burtonboy

      canuckintheuk Burtonboy Yeah its definetly not something you see done very often . I can’t remember any GM coming out with a statement like that prior to the draft . Either he’s dammed smart orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr lol

      • mcloki

        Stimulate a trade. Colorado could do very well for themselves and pick up players and prospects.

      • Burtonboy

        mcloki Might be that they have a deal already in place to upgrade their defense . Say trading Stastney for something on the back end and feel they can forget Jones and go after McKinnon

      • mcloki

        That could be.

    • Zep2

      Burtonboy Picking a D 1st overall is vey rare. Though Colorado fills a need by picking Jones

  • mcloki

    I’m very optimistic the Leafs will buy a compliance buyout. Take the deal for what it is. A get out of jail free card. The team that takes the buyout will be miles ahead financially. Overnight. A horrible situation gets resolved in minutes rather than taking til 2025 to work its way through, slowly lingering, festering, costing you money.
    And it’ll make great Draft Day TV.

  • Dink

    Early morning thought: any gm that is NOT going to be open to discussion at the entry draft should have a light on at their table…would save a lot of time between picks…

  • Dink

    Anyone tell me excactly the TIME the Entry Draft starts because NBC Sports is showing a start time of 3 PM..

    • Burtonboy

      @Dink As far as I know thats the start time

      • Dink

        Burtonboy thats an odd time because I was lead to believe the complete draft is going to be done in one day.

        • Burtonboy

          @Dink Burtonboy Yep thats what I heard too . The GM’s must be planning to work night shift lol

        • mcloki

          There’s plenty of time. It’s just a draft. Day 2 is just a lôt of D level NHL.com guys talking out of their ass. Give them a minute between picks and 15 minutes between rounds and its all good. Who cares after the first round.

        • Burtonboy

          mcloki Maybe you don’t but lots of others are interested :)

        • mcloki

          Burtonboy mcloki You know what I mean. It’s going to be Sunday night. Canada Fireworks displays are going to be going off.

        • Burtonboy

          mcloki Burtonboy Well I’m hoping for fireworks during the draft lol

        • mcloki

          Burtonboy mcloki Me to. First words out of Bettmans mouth on Draft Day should be.
          “Good day everyone. As this is the last draft of my commissionership I’d like to say I have a trade to announce, The….

    • mcloki

      That’s it. And it’s all happening on one day.

      • Dink

        mcloki NBC probably show first round then I will have to scramble to find a feed

        • mcloki

          NHL.com should have it. TSN might cover the whole thing.

        • Dink

          mcloki can’t get TSN in states

        • Dink

          mcloki i mean directly

        • mcloki

          @Dink mcloki I’m sure we’ll post a stream come draft day. I’ve been able to find streams of Day 2 from NHL.com online. One of the diehards will post a link I’m sure.

    • daniel marois

      @Dink 
      Draft starts at 3PM ET.  TSN lists it at 2:30pm ET because their coverage starts 30 mins before the draft actually begins (the 30-min pre-show is just to give the latest on trades and rumours leading up to the first-overall selection pick)

    • JMAC17

      @Dink2013 NHL Draft (TSN)
      Sunday, June 30 at 2:30pm et/11:30am pt

  • daniel marois

    TheCanucksnaphook 
    Correct.  I believe TSN will probably show the first round and the later rounds on the NHL Network.

    • daniel marois

      TheCanucksnaphook daniel marois 
      New Jersey hosting.

    • daniel marois

      TheCanucksnaphook daniel marois 
      No.  But I think it will be one of the most active for trade activity – considering the buyouts in effect for trade offers. Something unique that has never been seen at the draft.

    • daniel marois

      TheCanucksnaphook daniel marois 
      Are you really planning on going to New Jersey??

  • MaxwellHowe

    Contrary to commonly held opinion, the Leafs will not likely be the only game in town when it comes to trading for compliance buyouts.  The Habs and Rangers are probably out, and the Flyers likely as well, but there are otherwise many teams in the NHL with sufficient money available to make it happen.  And don’t think that a team like the Canucks, just because they have their own buyout candidates, won’t do it – its just a matter of swapping a cheaper buyout for a more expensive one – like most comments here contemplate trading Komisarek to the Isles as part of a deal for Dipeitro.
    Having said that, MLSE must real that fans paying hundred and thousands of dollars for tickets will be pissed if the richest team in hockey lets this type of opportunity pass withoyut at least an honest effort.

    • daniel marois

      MaxwellHowe 
      What’s your opinion on the bernier rumours?  TSN said the Leafs would have to include at least Matt Frattin to land Bernier but I am sure it would be a more significant package.  Keep in mind.  New MLSE CEO Tim Lieweke knows very much how good Bernier is when he was part of LA organization the last few yrs.

      • daniel marois

        TheCanucksnaphook daniel marois 
        Well…it would be more than Frattin.  Perhaps a draft pick (say second rounder) or Ben Scrivens going the other way.  Seems a lot.  But I think Bernier would be worth it.  Bernier can push Reimer and see what happens.  If both play well…that gives you a better trade trade to use going forward.

      • daniel marois

        canuckintheuk TheCanucksnaphook daniel marois 
        Agreed.  Frattin and say next year’s second rounder (this year’s is only 51st overall) should be the price.  Bernier I think would be an excellent addition.  You can’t have enough good goaltending.  You saw what Ottawa did by moving s chip like Bishop for Conacher.  That’s what you can so with solid goaltending depth.

      • MLHS_Luke

        daniel marois MaxwellHowe Didn’t Bernier want out of LA because he wasn’t getting a shot at being a clear #1?  How does that change in Toronto?

        • daniel marois

          MLHS_Luke daniel marois MaxwellHowe 
          Good point.  But Quick has played 60+ games in a regular season and Vezina candidate.  Reimer has not played a full season.  I think Leafs would want to bring him in and push Reimer for the #1 spot.  I think the upside for Bernier is high and worth considering.

      • daniel marois

        TheCanucksnaphook daniel marois 
        YUP.  I would do that in a second.

      • Cameron19

        daniel marois TheCanucksnaphook Except that you almost never get value back on goalies.  The odds of trading one of them for anything worthwhile once we’ve created a “goalie controversey”, are slim to none.

      • Cameron19

        daniel marois canuckintheuk TheCanucksnaphook lol, Yea, maybe later we’ll be able to trade Bernier to get a good chip like Frattin back.

      • MaxwellHowe

        daniel marois MaxwellHowe I don’t see that happening, certainly not for Frattin. I do beleive Nonis and mgt. are not as happy with Reimer as most of us seem to be.   But IMO they won’t be trading Frattin for him.  Maybe a defensive prospect and Scrivens.  
        In any case the NYI and NJD will outbid the Leafs – their need for a young goaltender is dire.

      • rustynail

        TheCanucksnaphook daniel marois PASS

    • daniel marois

      MaxwellHowe 
      What’s your opinion on the bernier rumours?  TSN said the Leafs would have to include at least Matt Frattin to land Bernier but I am sure it would be a more significant package.  Keep in mind.  New MLSE CEO Tim Lieweke knows very much how good Bernier is when he was part of LA organization the last few yrs.

    • Burtonboy

      MaxwellHowe I can see teams like Detroit and Buffalo doing deals like this ( owners with tons of cash they don’t mind spending) Not sure who else given some of the contracts they presently have . If the Leafs do a deal like this they had better get a good return because fans are gonna be pissed when ticket prices go up to recover the cost ( you can bet your buns they will ) and we still wind up with an inferior product on the ice. I’m sure they are looking but it can blow up in your face as well if they don’t get it right

    • Cameron19

      MaxwellHowe Detroit is the only other team who can do it, and frankly, I don’t see them using money that way.  Their owner has no problem paying players who deserve money all that they deserve.  I don’t think he will spend millions on risks – and really, that’s what we’d be acquiring.  Everyone keeps selling these kind of trades as if the powerful Leafs are robbing the poor franchises.  In fact, all that’s been suggested is that some potential talent gets swapped for millions, and millions of dollars. The Leafs could easily lose almost all the suggested trades of this type that have been proposed so far…

      Vancouver’s buyouts aren’t cheap enough to put them in the fold.  They also aren’t THAT rich.

      • MaxwellHowe

        Cameron19 MaxwellHowe I think the Flames are desperate enouigh to try anything. Don’t write Feaster out of anything.

  • daniel marois

    canuckintheuk TheCanucksnaphook 
    I just feel that you always overpay on July 1st for a UFA and they never fulfill the hype.  Sure, the two biggest prizes last summer was Suter/Parise and they for the most part played like significant pieces.  But rarely do others.  I say…pass on Clarkson  IF the contract is outrageous.

  • mcloki

    canuckintheuk the fans would revolt.

    • mcloki

      canuckintheuk mcloki That’s intriguing, But the same problem in Montreal, Then again.

  • daniel marois

    canuckintheuk 
    Sure it’s possible.  But can’t see Nashville losing yet another piece like Sutter.  That franchise has no “franchise” players to begin with.  Weber stays in my opinion.

  • phaneufoundlander

    dam right ! He will earn his pay.

  • Mind Bomb

    Good morning Folks !

    • Mind Bomb

      TheCanucksnaphook Mind Bomb Sup Phook ! Beautiful Day here sunny no clouds, no wind. Perfect Fishing Day, Or Golf for you :)

    • phaneufoundlander

      mornin Bomber!

    • phaneufoundlander

      mornin Bomber!

      • Mind Bomb

        phaneufoundlander  Sup Lander !

  • mcloki

    bradyfan590
    Jonathan Toews in his past 44 playoff games — TWO even-strength goals dating back to 2010 Conference Finals. Stunning stat.

    Jonathan Toews meet Clark MacArthur. Yikes

    • mcloki

      canuckintheuk mcloki MAcA is tied in goals with the both of them,

    • phaneufoundlander

      and ppl think Phaneuf is overrated…

      • mcloki

        phaneufoundlander Just goes to show you our media scrutiny is way over the top. Useless stats designed to tear down a guy rather than actually enlighten the readers.

  • phaneufoundlander

    Guys are the Leafs really in on Bernier or is this a decoy to drive the price up for the Flyers and other teams?

    • daniel marois

      phaneufoundlander 
      They are.  They have been linked to Bernier rumours since last season with Burke.  I think now that Leiweke is part of MLSE, he has a valued opinion on how good Bernier is.

      • Cameron19

        daniel marois phaneufoundlander Why would his opinion be valued though?  He’s not a hockey man.  He’s a business man.

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Cameron19 daniel marois phaneufoundlander Exactly.

        • MaxwellHowe

          Cameron19 daniel marois phaneufoundlander Agreed. Hockey experts are generally poor at asessing goalies, let alone a career business executive.

        • MaxwellHowe

          Cameron19 daniel marois phaneufoundlander But, on second thought, does it matter if his opinion is valued?  What matters is the how he asserts himself and the authority he holds in the organization.  No one valued Harold Ballard’s hockey opinion.  But no one could stop him from doing what he wanted either.

  • daniel marois

    TheCanucksnaphook 
    I think Flyers will take a strong run at him and dangle their first rounder + younger assets to do it. They won’t admit it…but I think they miss the 20-goals JVR potted this year.

  • Cameron19

    TheCanucksnaphook That’s what we said when the Rangers loaded up with Richards and Nash….

    • Cameron19

      TheCanucksnaphook Yea, that would be nice.

  • Cameron19

    TheCanucksnaphook That’s what we said when the Rangers loaded up with Richards and Nash….

  • Cameron19

    -Keon- I think we woke them up after our first win though.  Maybe we got one subpar game out of them, but anything more than that is just b.s.

  • Mind Bomb

    -Keon-  Nope, No other team has Knocked around Chara,and pushed them back.  The Rangers did not have the Speed to keep up, Pit did not have the Balls to stand up, And Chi is yet to be determined. It was our Play that put Boston on their heels. I hate when people say that. 
    The Leafs had the Speed, the Heart and the Goaltending to scare Boston, the other teams did not have all 3

  • mcloki

    TheCanucksnaphook I don’t know about that. And i think Columbus is going to be a pain in the ass. Though we are now in the new Southeast division. Playing Florida and Tampa. Hopefully that helps.

  • mcloki

    TheCanucksnaphook I don’t know about that. And i think Columbus is going to be a pain in the ass. Though we are now in the new Southeast division. Playing Florida and Tampa. Hopefully that helps.

    • Burtonboy

      mcloki TheCanucksnaphook There is no such thing as an easy 2 pts in the NHL . Build a team that can compete with anyone. There are no easy ways to win in this league

      • daniel marois

        Burtonboy mcloki TheCanucksnaphook 
        Agreed.  Anyone find it funny Flyers traded Brobovsky to Columbus last year and now he just won the Vezina??!  Flyers have no luck in the crease!! LOL

      • mcloki

        Burtonboy mcloki TheCanucksnaphook I agree. But I like the team that Burke, Nonnis and Carlyle are putting on the ice. Next year the Leafs should intimidate incoming teams. I hope they make the ACC one of the least desirable destinations for opposing teams.

  • mcloki

    TheCanucksnaphook Mind Bomb -Keon- We are, but I don’t think we will. Expiring contracts see to that.

  • Mind Bomb

    TheCanucksnaphook Mind Bomb -Keon- Yes I do Phook, now obviously there are areas that can be upgraded, like all teams. My Objection is people belittling our accomplishments by saying well Boston was not playing their best, they were not trying, Bullshite.

  • Loric76

    TheCanucksnaphook Way to set the bar low…I say Boston staying in our conference is an easy 2 pts each game 😀

    • Loric76

      TheCanucksnaphook and no, I haven’t had coffee yet today lol

  • Mind Bomb

    -Keon-  because Keon their opponents are not putting the pressure we did. Also RC did a good job coaching that series

  • Cameron19

    -Keon- I think we were just playing better than their subsequent challengers.

  • Loric76

    Cameron19 -Keon- it’s probably a combination of both.  Boston ended the season in a bit of a slump and brought that into the playoffs, eventually turning it around in the dying minutes of the series against us.  Meanwhile the Leafs played balls out and showed everyone, including themselves, just how good they really can be.

  • Mind Bomb

    -Keon- except for the last 11 minutes bro, Dam !!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • B_Leaf

    TheCanucksnaphook canuckintheuk 
    We are better than most people think…guys like Gardiner, Frattin, and JVR are just getting started. Kadri can be even better. Grabovski can play so much better…lets see what we have after last years experience.

  • B_Leaf

    -Keon- 
    Guys, if you go back and watch the tape…the Leafs didn’t play  that bad in the last 11 minutes. Boston got some puck luck, and they scored twice with their goalie on the bench…it really sucks but I have watched the misery about five times and outside of a little play here or there we didn’t collapse. The OT was a little bit more of a collapse but the Bruins were getting away with constant infractions too. Also by then our momentum had taken a big hit.

  • Dink

    -Keon- When it comes right down to it, Bruins just had more experience and when you can’t win a face-off you are always on the defensive.

  • B_Leaf

    -Keon- I do agree, and I think even Carlyle agrees that the coaching in game seven could have been better. But he also really missed his best FO guy Bozak and his big defenseman Fraser…and Lucic was running around like a bull.

  • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

    my DREAM scenario …..
    komisarek , 4th rounder  to isles for depietro and strome .
    grabbo , 3rd rounder to lightning for lecavalier and 3rd overall pick 2013 .
    lightning 3rd pick , frattin , percy 2nd rounder to avalanche for 1st overall pick .
    leafs take mackinnon !!!!!
    BOOM !!!!!!

    • Great Dane

      unclejakescards Buying out DiPietro and Lecavalier – I am all in.
      But Nonis should play big:
      Isles – the target should be Tavares. So we send Grabo, Komi, our 1st this year and 2nd next year.
      Then in Tampa the target should be Hedman. Vinny is a problem for them and so is Ohlund. They pay Ohlund 7 million over the next couple of year for nothing. So a Lombardi deal would interesting for TBL. 
      Lecavalier, Hedman and Ohlund for Liles, Percy, Blacker and our 1 st next year. That is a lot of money and assets for Hedman

      • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

        Great Dane unclejakescards sure, tavares be great , but dnt beleive isles would do it . hedman would be fine too although i think you are giving too much there .
        right now , im wishing burke was still here , i believe whole heartedly he would be gettin stuff like this done . nonis however , we’ll have to wait and see …….

    • Cameron19

      unclejakescards Dream scenarios have to include three-way trades:


      To NYI: Mike Komisarek,51st overall pick
      To WPG: Mikhail Grabovski, Ryan Strome
      To TOR: Rick DiPietro, Evander Kane

      To TBL:John-Michael Liles, 21st overall pick
      To COL: 3rd overall pick, Nikolai Kulemin
      To TOR: Vinnie Lecavalier, Matt Duchene

      Sign Clarkson and Scuderi:

      Kane / Duchene / Kessel

      J.V.R. / Kadri / Lupul
      Frattin / Colbo / Clarkson
      D’Amigo / McC / Orr
      (McLaren)

      Scuderi – Phaneuf
      Gardiner – Franson
      Gunnar – Blacker
      (Fraser)

      Reimer – Scrivens

      lol. I love the off-season.

      • Great Dane

        Cameron19 unclejakescards That would be a pretty amazing lineup. And back to the old three-way deals LOL

      • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

        Cameron19 unclejakescards HAHA , i love threesomes too !!!! silly season is just too much fun !!!

      • MaxwellHowe

        Cameron19 unclejakescards Beautiful line-up.  Isles got a little shortchanged out of all that, but thats a matter of opinion.

        • Cameron19

          MaxwellHowe Cameron19 unclejakescards Yea, they did, but we have other assets we can throw to them and the Lightning to balance those deals if need be. With a forward core that talented and that young, we wouldn’t worry about tossing an extra prospect into each of the deals.  We’d recover that loss quickly.

      • MaxwellHowe

        Cameron19 unclejakescards Beautiful line-up.  Isles got a little shortchanged out of all that, but thats a matter of opinion.

  • Loric76

    B_Leaf -Keon- why would you put yourself through that 5 times lol.  Glutten for punishment.

  • B_Leaf

    Loric76 B_Leaf -Keon- 
    Your avatar says it all…lol

  • mcloki

    -Keon- wrong

  • B_Leaf

    Loric76 B_Leaf -Keon- 
    Watching it back without all the emotion at the time, and I realized we didn’t collapse as bad as I initially thought. 
    What stood out to me was how disciplined the leafs were playing, and I think that was a mistake. For one a penalty wouldn’t have killed them because they could ice the puck. Secondly how could the refs begin to justify calling anything on the Leafs when the Bruins were getting away with murder. Orr should have brought some justice whether he found a willing partner or not.

  • MaxwellHowe

    TheCanucksnaphook yeah, its basically like adding Bruins lite to the divsion.  They always play the Leafs hard.  Leafs could be #1 in the conference, Wings #16, and they’d still push the Leafs to the limit.

  • Loric76

    I said as much the other day, but I don’t see anything of significance happening with Compliance Buyout trades.  We might see something, but it’s not going to be the earth-shattering deals involving the super contracts like DiPietro or Lecav.
    It’ll be something smaller, like a once-decent player with a so-so contract that fit how he played at the time the contract was signed, but is now not playing at the same level and is overpaid.  There may also be less obvious circumstances like injuries and insurance issues, problems in the dressing room, etc.  Think along the lines of the Lombo deal.

    • Cameron19

      Loric76 I don’t really understand your reasoning for this though.  Most teams can afford to eliminate their own problems if they are that small – there is little need to deal with those in a trade.  Whereas with the super contracts, those teams can’t afford it, and don’t have much in the way of options.  Either pay someone to take the contract, or live with it. They will looking for someone to help them.

      • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

        Cameron19 Loric76 good point , also teams can still use regular buyouts as well , so they can keep the cap hit to help hit the floor . it is the bigger contracts that will be of trade value , just what that value will be , we should know soon enough ….

      • Loric76

        Cameron19 Loric76 Agreed, that’s why I’m leaning towards nothing happening at all related to buyouts

        • Cameron19

          Loric76 Cameron19 I think that deters you from thinking that something will happen is that you are seeing the trades as being tremendously expensive for the team trying to move the super contract.  I don’t want to put words in your mouth, but in similar conversations, others have seen the proposed Strome and 3rd overall pick deals, and immediately jumped to calling these guys “franchise pieces”

          If we look over the history of the draft though, its far, FAR more likely, that both players will simply turn out to be good NHL players. Once you remove the hyperbole from the situation, I think the deals look a lot more palatable to the other club – a good player, for 24-30 million dollars in salary relief.  Of course, in my opinion, I think the Leafs could easily lose both trades – especially if they include basically anything of value going back the other way.

  • MaxwellHowe

    TheCanucksnaphook mcloki Fuck, if he’s looking to trade for Bernier after Reimer’s play last season, no one is safe

  • B_Leaf

    The only thing I really want to see other than bringing Bozak back is adding a D man, but I don’t want to give up anything significant…I would rather develop the guys we got than trade a Frattin or something. I wouldn’t mind adding a Clarkson either at the right price.

    • Great Dane

      B_Leaf B_Leaf you should change your handle to Bozak_Leaf or Bozaf LOL

      • Burtonboy

        canuckintheuk Great Dane B_Leaf He has the stats to back it up wink wink :)))))))

  • Great Dane

    canuckintheuk Way too much of the same up the middle

  • Dink

    Can a team buyout someone and then resign them? My brain hurts…

    • Burtonboy

      @Dink No not for a yr after the buyout

      • Dink

        Burtonboy ok that ends my wild thought

    • Dink

      canuckintheuk hypothetically, could they acquire Luongo, buy him out so that Florida could sign him with the stipulation Leafs get their draft pick?

      • Dink

        canuckintheuk nm  I am drifting…lol

      • MaxwellHowe

        @Dink canuckintheuk not a bad plan in theory though.  I suppose Luoungo and the Panthers could have a good faith arrangment in place that the Leafs could trust.  But even assuming GMs trusted one another, which it seems they do not, the league might have problems with such open “tampering”, even if all the teams in the deal wanted it

  • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

    https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIChttps://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/347169842870226944
    Premature speculation MT https://twitter.com/tpanotchCSN: Paul Holmgren: I didn’t assure Ritch Winter of anything. We will do whatever is best for our team.https://twitter.com/JSportsnethttps://twitter.com/JSportsnet/status/347176154458902528
    https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC https://twitter.com/tpanotchCSN Not really speculation when the agent tells you that the GM has told him there will be no buy-out.

    JOHN SHANNON IS A COMPLETE TOOL !!!!

    • Cameron19

      unclejakescards I believe Shannon when he says the agent told him that.  At the end of the day, Holmgren is just a blatant liar.

      • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

        Cameron19 unclejakescards exactly , and so do agents ….. the games they play are funny , but , shannon knows this but tries to correct friedman . hahaha , shannon should just be fired …..

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          unclejakescards Cameron19 Pretty much the entire Sportsnet “expert” analyst crew need an enema.

        • Dink

          ingy56 unclejakescards Cameron19 well thats true

      • Cameron19

        Yaknowwhat Cameron19 unclejakescards There’s no maybe about it.  He’s been caught blatantly lying to his players, their agents, and the media on more than a few occasions.

      • Burtonboy

        Cameron19 unclejakescards Thats what I said lol

    • Dudgee

      unclejakescards I believe nothing John Shannon says as most of the time he’s wrong.  
      Remember, Luongo was going to be in Toronto withing 24h of the CBA agreement?  
      He’s awful. Just a rambling crazy old man.

  • Dink

    canuckintheuk we would do almost any deal to get Tavares, but he is untouchable

    • Great Dane

      So was the Great One

      • Dink

        Great Dane Hard to convince people to come to games in a new locale when your management just traded its best player.

      • Great Dane

        @Dink Great Dane Some times you have to stop the bleeding before you cure the patient.

  • colino17

    canuckintheuk you are smarter than us all sir

  • Dink

    canuckintheuk not sure Bernier is any better than Reimer

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      @Dink canuckintheuk How can that be? All the “experts” are convinced he is. One even thinks he’s going to be the “veteran presence”.

      • Dink

        ingy56 canuckintheuk Reimers game improved when he started emulating Lundquist, IMO