2013 Draft Profile Series – Anthony Mantha

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With a little over a week left until the NHL Draft, teams are going into crunch time as scouts race to finalize their draft rankings. These are the days where as a scout, you decide once and for all just how much you’re to advocate for your player. Sometimes if a single scout’s voice is loud enough, it may make all the difference in how high a surprise player can climb. Our next player has the potential to do exactly that – either you love him or you hate him – Val-d’Or forward Anthony Mantha.

Anthony Mantha – Winger, Val-d’Or Foreurs, QMJHL – Projected 18th – 25th overall

At 6’4 205 lbs, the QMJHL’s leading scorer is an impressive physical specimen with as much upside as anyone in this draft class. The young sniper exploded onto the scene with a league leading 50-goal campaign for Val-d’Or in his second QMJHL season. Despite his size, Mantha skates strikingly well. Similar to Boston’s Milan Lucic, he uses a quick first step and surprising top end speed to keep defenders off balance. However, Mantha lives along the outside wing, using his speed to create shooting opportunities on the rush – of which there were plenty. He led the entire league in shots, averaging nearly 5 per game, utilizing a quick, accurate wrister with the ability to score from anywhere at anytime. His scoring instincts are excellent, showing an innate ability to read the play, sneak away from a defender and be at the right place at the right time.

So blessed with some the most impressive natural athleticism of recent years, why isn’t Mantha projected to go higher? Well, sometimes you simply don’t know what you’re getting. The young winger shows the occasional flash of brilliance, displaying game-breaking potential and the desire to actually use it. At other times, he’s a floater, relying on perimeter play and exhibiting no willingness to engage physically or defensively. On the nights he doesn’t have “it”, you can tell from the opening puck drop and may not even notice him the rest of the game. Mantha was born a day after the cutoff for the 2012 NHL Draft, so naturally there is skepticism with regards to whether he can truly compared fairly to the rest of the current draft class.

At the end of the day, Mantha’s combination of size, skating and goal scoring are simply unrivaled in this class and some team willing to take on the risk will grab him somewhere in the latter third of the first round.

A huge compilation of all of Mantha’s goals:

  • Pent_House

    good work.

  • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ LeoTheLion

    Not a center… but an interesting big bodied forward with a very high ceiling.. I’d be pretty excited by the gamble, but seems uncharacteristic of Morrison and his staff.

    • Pent_House

      @LeoTheLion I think with the state of the Leafs system over the last few years, we couldn’t afford to take gambles in the early round. Now that the system is pretty well stocked, and there’s depth, we could afford to take a more high-risk high-reward prospect.

    • Pent_House

      @LeoTheLion I think with the state of the Leafs system over the last few years, we couldn’t afford to take gambles in the early round. Now that the system is pretty well stocked, and there’s depth, we could afford to take a more high-risk high-reward prospect.

  • Burtonboy

    Not to derail Alex good work and I will get back to it here’s something of interest 
    https://twitter.com/RenLavoieRDShttps://twitter.com/RenLavoieRDS/status/348170884818821120
    3 teams are in the running for Jonathan Bernier. Kings are going to take the best offer from Maple Leafs, Flyers or Wild. https://twitter.com/search?q=%23RDS&src=hash

    • Komas Taberle

      Burtonboy Flyers are supposedly out so that leaves the Wild and the Leafs.

    • daniel marois

      Burtonboy 
      I just read a report from a Philly columnist who said that T.O. has stepped up their offer “significantly” for Bernier – so much so the Flyers may not be able to match.  If the Flyers were offering Coburn + 11th-overall pick…what the heck has Leafs offered?  I mean, surely the 11th-overall pick would be more valuable then ten picks later at 21 right?  I can only guess the Leafs have offered Frattin + 21-overall + another Grade A prospect.

      • Mitch_S2

        daniel marois Burtonboy This is getting ridiculous he’s a backup at this point?

        • mcloki

          Mitch_S2 daniel marois Burtonboy Exactly we’re giving away 1st round picks for a 1st now. Maybe if Brown is strapped to his back. Silly season indeed.

        • dlb eh

          mcloki Mitch_S2 daniel marois Burtonboy 
          thankfully Nonis isn’t typically looking to impress people with his moves by swinging for the fences

        • daniel marois

          Mitch_S2 daniel marois Burtonboy
          I agree.  This is a lot. But you knew LA would ask for the moon concerning Bernier.  I mean, wouldn’t drafting Fucle at #21 be almost the same as trading for Bernier?  At least in the case of Fucle, you would not be trading additional assets just to get Bernier.

        • mcloki

          Mitch_S2 daniel marois Burtonboy Sorry it should have read “for a back up goalie” Unless NoNo has a deal in place with Edmonton to trade Reimer for their pick and Gagner why even think of doing this trade

        • mcloki

          daniel marois Mitch_S2 Burtonboy And it would be cheaper.

        • daniel marois

          mcloki Mitch_S2 daniel marois Burtonboy 

          It would be bold if it was indeed Reimer – and not Scrivens – that Nonis is offering Edm for the seventh-overall pick.  That would make sense why Toronto is so hot on Bernier.  Scrivens would bring back a second-rounder at best.

        • Dangle_My_Berries

          daniel marois mcloki Mitch_S2 Burtonboy has Edmonton lost faith in Dubnyk?

        • daniel marois

          Dangle_My_Berries daniel marois mcloki Mitch_S2 Burtonboy 
          I think MacTavish wants a goalie to propel them into the playoffs…like Reimer did for the Leafs.  Dub was not proven he can.  Oilers will not tolerate another top-10 pick next year.

      • wendelsfist

        daniel marois Burtonboy I don’t want to even guess even if it is true

      • Burtonboy

        daniel marois Burtonboy I would caution anyone not to take the Philadelphia media too seriously. They lean towards rumor mongering as you can well see by what you just posted . Not a chance in hell Philly or the Leafs are offering the likes of that for Bernier . If Nonis were to do that deal he would be run out of town on a rail.

        • Komas Taberle

          Burtonboy daniel marois Exactly BurtonBoy, there is no way we are offering close to that<,I say Frattin and a second tops.

        • daniel marois

          Burtonboy daniel marois 
          Very true.  Could just be media columnists attaching the Leafs name for traction sake.  But it does sound the interest is genuine from Toronto’s side.

        • daniel marois

          Komas Taberle Burtonboy daniel marois 
          I think that is the original offer Toronto proposed.  Seems LA wants them to “ante” up.  I can’t see Nonis offering more than that.

  • mcloki

    Can I get a catch up as to the going on today. Just got back and am looking at twitter.

    • LeGoon

      Ruff to Dallas, Vign to NYR, Torts to Vanc likely, and Calgary is all wet.

      • mcloki

        LeGoon Thank you. I got caught up looking at the flooding. just terrible.  I hope everyone in Calagry comes out of this safe.

  • daniel marois

    I am still in the wheelhouse of taking a chance on Klimchuk at #21 (if Rychel or say Gauthier is gone by then).

    • dlb eh

      daniel marois 
      Klimchuk sounds like a guy already drafted, signed and playing in the DET farm system

  • wendelsfist

    I really want the leafs to draft a prospect for 1C so haven’t considered wingers being we are set there.  But what if the best player on the board is yet another left handed man?  Will we really draft him.

    • daniel marois

      wendelsfist 
      Hey, Leafs could have drafted Grigorenko or Forsberg and elected to take Reilly because he was BPA.  I a player like say Klimchuk is still available and high on the Leafs draft chart, they won’t hesitate to take him.

      • dlb eh

        daniel marois wendelsfist 
        and that’s the best approach imo.

    • Xxxxxnew

      I don’t think drafting 21st gets us a No. 1 C in the short term. Maybe someone who could develop into one in five years or so.

      • daniel marois

        Xxxxxnew 
        Agreed.  That’s why I like the idea of Fucale.  He could develop into a franchise goalie in 3-4 years.  Then, we can pass on this nonsense for Bernier.

        • Black_Hawk

          daniel marois Xxxxxnew Fucale might be overrated b/c he played on a crazy ass team

      • Black_Hawk

        Xxxxxnew thats fine, at least we’d have one then

    • Burtonboy

      wendelsfist 99 times out of 100 they will take BPA especially if its a later pick

      • rustynail

        Burtonboy wendelsfist and so they should better value to the asset

        • daniel marois

          rustynail Burtonboy wendelsfist 
          At #21, you are still looking to hit a homerun.  Not add a depth player.  Does Lazar or Gauthier seem to be those type of centremen if they are available at #21?

        • Burtonboy

          daniel marois rustynail Burtonboy wendelsfist Gauthier really interests me especially after Drouin said he was the toughest he played against in the Q

        • wendelsfist

          rustynail Burtonboy wendelsfist Drafted at #21, the best center in the NHL is Koivu.  There were a few busts or third/fourth liners as well.

        • wendelsfist

          rustynail Burtonboy wendelsfist Drafted at #21, the best center in the NHL is Koivu.  There were a few busts or third/fourth liners as well.

        • daniel marois

          Burtonboy daniel marois rustynail wendelsfist 
          A shutdoown centre is great.  But I want one with high offensive upside.  From the stats I see, Gauthier looks to be a 15-20 NHL goal scorer.  Perhaps that is what teams want…but maybe not at the #21 pick.

        • Burtonboy

          daniel marois Burtonboy rustynail wendelsfist We are talking about an 18 yr old who has a long way to go in his development . He could be a completely different player is 3 yrs time

        • daniel marois

          Burtonboy daniel marois rustynail wendelsfist 
          No doubt.  I guess Gauthier would be great grab at that spot.  There is some suggestion he will definetely be gone before Leafs pick.

        • Xxxxxnew

          And that was 20 years ago in 1993 when euro players went a little later in the draft.

        • Burtonboy

          daniel marois Burtonboy rustynail wendelsfist Could very well be . He’s a big Mofo

        • Pent_House

          wendelsfist Koivu is a legit #1C

        • Xxxxxnew

          Yes, but we had to go back 20 years to the last time one was drafted in the 21st spot.

        • dlb eh

          Xxxxxnew
          Doug Gilmour

          Selected in seventh round
          No. 134 overall by St.
          Louis Blues

        • dlb eh

          Xxxxxnew
          Selected by http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr00005492.html round 6 http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/draft_by_pick.php?position=171 overall http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl1998e.html
          Pavel someguy

        • dlb eh

          Xxxxxnew
          Selected by http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr00004643.html round 1 http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/draft_by_pick.php?position=28 overall http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2003e.html

        • Xxxxxnew

          Like winning a lottery. With the same odds. And it took Dougie years in St. Louis and Calgary to become a No. 1 C. The original start to this was the idea we won’t likely see our 21st pick become a No. 1 C for the first four or five years of his career, much like Kadri who was picked 14 places higher, not that teams don’t get lucky one in a while.

        • Black_Hawk

          dlb eh Xxxxxnew yeah who is that guy?lol

        • wendelsfist

          dlb eh Xxxxxnew which was the last year that was talked about being deep?

    • Pent_House

      wendelsfist I think the Leafs will continue on the philosophy of BPA

    • Black_Hawk

      wendelsfist i think we take BPA

  • Xxxxxnew

    TIM PANNACHIO
    Comcast
    While the Flyers remain in the sweepstakes chase for L.A. Kings backup goalie Jonathan Bernier, the stakes have been raised.
    Much higher, it seems.
    Sources say the Toronto Maple Leafs have significantly anted up the price to pry Bernier from the Kings and this is yet another reason why the Flyers can’t make a final decision on whether to file a compliance buyout on goalie Ilya Bryzgalov.
    The Leafs, New York Islanders, Florida Panthers, Minnesota Wild and the New Jersey Devils reportedly are in the bidding, but sources say Toronto might be offering more than others are willing to pay.
    “We’re not really talking,” said one Flyers source, which likely means general manager Paul Holmgren can’t match what others are offering Kings GM Dean Lombardi for a guy many feel could have been a No. 1 starter were it not for how well Jonathan Quick has performed.

  • Xxxxxnew

    TIM PANNACHIO
    Comcast
    While the Flyers remain in the sweepstakes chase for L.A. Kings backup goalie Jonathan Bernier, the stakes have been raised.
    Much higher, it seems.
    Sources say the Toronto Maple Leafs have significantly anted up the price to pry Bernier from the Kings and this is yet another reason why the Flyers can’t make a final decision on whether to file a compliance buyout on goalie Ilya Bryzgalov.
    The Leafs, New York Islanders, Florida Panthers, Minnesota Wild and the New Jersey Devils reportedly are in the bidding, but sources say Toronto might be offering more than others are willing to pay.
    “We’re not really talking,” said one Flyers source, which likely means general manager Paul Holmgren can’t match what others are offering Kings GM Dean Lombardi for a guy many feel could have been a No. 1 starter were it not for how well Jonathan Quick has performed.

    • Dangle_My_Berries

      Xxxxxnew disturbing….

    • daniel marois

      Xxxxxnew 
      That is the Flyers report that I was referring to earlier.  I guess…take it for what it is worth.

      • wendelsfist

        daniel marois Xxxxxnew From the Kings view I would think they need a replacement for Penner and possibly a replacement for Scuderi (assuming Mitchell is still injured)

        • daniel marois

          wendelsfist daniel marois Xxxxxnew 
          So would Liles be someone of interest or are they looking to nab a Percy/Blacker/Finn type prospect?  Because Gardiner/Reilly would be off table.

        • dlb eh

          daniel marois wendelsfist Xxxxxnew 
          be nice if Liles had good value for a situation like this.  if he’s still perceived to be a top 4 defenseman, it’s easy to understand what “upping the ante” could mean to other teams since no one’s in a hurry to trade top 4 D away.
          maybe they think having Mac’s rights and Scrivens as a backup is great too.

      • Burtonboy

        daniel marois Xxxxxnew There has been absolutely no talk about this among the top insiders . Nothing from MacKenzie ,Dreger or LeBrun . I’ll wait till I hear this elsewhere before actually giving this much credence

        • daniel marois

          Burtonboy daniel marois Xxxxxnew 
          Ahhh….both LeBrun and McKenzie have been citing the Leafs in the mix for Bernier all this week.  McKenzie even talked about it on TSN radio on the afternoon drive yesterday.

        • Burtonboy

          daniel marois Burtonboy Xxxxxnew Yes but they have made no mention of the Leafs upping the ante or what they are in fact offering

        • daniel marois

          Burtonboy daniel marois Xxxxxnew 
          For sure.  That is why I am so interested what this supposed “ante up” by the Leafs is.  How much more can they possibly go than Frattin + 2013 second rounder and a mid-level prospect defenseman?

        • Xxxxxnew

          PANNACHIO is a reporter with Comcast.sportsnet, which is actually owned by the Snider family.

        • Burtonboy

          daniel marois Burtonboy Xxxxxnew Personally I wouldn’t even do a deal for Bernier but it seems the Leafs have a different take then I do. Just hoping they don’t do something foolish  at this point

        • Burtonboy

          Xxxxxnew I can’t give you specific examples right now but he’s far from infallible.

        • daniel marois

          Burtonboy daniel marois Xxxxxnew 
          At the end of the day – as long as they don’t overpay – I am in for Bernier.  But you would have to think that Reimer/Scrivens must be in play right?

        • dlb eh

          Burtonboy daniel marois Xxxxxnew 
          Liles + Mac + Scrivens
          Bernier

        • dlb eh

          Burtonboy daniel marois Xxxxxnew 
          and swap Gunnarsson and Scuderi
          and swap 1st round picks in 2014

        • daniel marois

          dlb eh Burtonboy daniel marois Xxxxxnew 
          Scrivens would be the right type of back up for Quick.  But seems LA is hot on Frattin so in any proposal, he would be included.

        • dlb eh

          daniel marois dlb eh Burtonboy Xxxxxnew 
          i’m not giving them Frattin, sorry.
          many times the names being thrown around aren’t the guys to actually move.  it’s normally out of left field.
          Frattin is a logical piece both teams might like, so therefore i expect it’s not gonna happen.

        • daniel marois

          dlb eh daniel marois Burtonboy Xxxxxnew 
          I know.  But I think they want to cash in Bernier for an NHL forward and a defenceman.  Frattin makes sense.  Just not sure what d-man they want included in the package.

        • dlb eh

          daniel marois dlb eh Burtonboy Xxxxxnew 
          are we more desperate to have Bernier than they are to move him?

        • daniel marois

          dlb eh daniel marois Burtonboy Xxxxxnew 
          No.  Not desperate.  But I think the focus is changing the core in goal.  I am feeling like Nonis is more hot on Bernier than Burke ever was.

        • dlb eh

          daniel marois dlb eh Burtonboy Xxxxxnew 
          Nonis?  nah, i don’t think so.  i think this is being blown up by us more than anything.
          if anyone’s hot for Bernier i might believe if an E5 comes out that it’s someone who’s come here from LA recently.

        • Xxxxxnew

          Could be Liewiki who’s hot on Bernier #interfering

        • Xxxxxnew

          Could be Liewiki who’s hot on Bernier #interfering

        • daniel marois

          dlb eh daniel marois Burtonboy Xxxxxnew 
          Ah yes ol’ Ek.  But I would believe that Leiweke is giving a ringing endorsement on Bernier.  Is that enough to push Nonis to pursue him?  I just don’t know.  This waiting is killing me!

        • Pent_House

          daniel marois If we get Bernier, I think the Leafs run with Reimer/Bernier and trade Scrivens. It should be a really really good tandem.

        • Dangle_My_Berries

          daniel marois dlb eh Burtonboy Xxxxxnew this draft period is gonna be nutz

        • dlb eh

          Pent_House daniel marois 
          upgrading the G that way might make sense. bringing in Bernier and moving Reimer out does not.

        • Alec Brownscombe

          dlb eh Pent_House daniel marois that’s understating things. It’s totally insane and should be posted about no longer.

        • Alec Brownscombe

          dlb eh Pent_House daniel marois that’s understating things. It’s totally insane and should be posted about no longer.

        • daniel marois

          Pent_House daniel marois 
          That scenerio seems more realistic.  Scrivens to Edm makes sense.  He is a native of Alberta and grew up near Edm.  But the most he would get from Edm is their second rounder.

        • dlb eh

          daniel marois Pent_House 
          done

        • daniel marois

          Alec Brownscombe dlb eh Pent_House daniel marois 
          Alec, I think we all feel Reimer deserves a shot to run with the #1 mantle.  But would internal competition from Bernier be so wrong vs. Scrivens?

        • Alec Brownscombe

          daniel marois Alec Brownscombe dlb eh Pent_House I was referring to the nutty discussion about oReimer being on the outs on account of this Bernier rumour.

        • Alec Brownscombe

          daniel marois Alec Brownscombe dlb eh Pent_House I was referring to the nutty discussion about oReimer being on the outs on account of this Bernier rumour.

        • Pent_House

          daniel marois Considering Scrivens was an undrafted free agent signing, getting a 2nd rounder for him would be great, especially since he’s going to be UFA next year.

        • daniel marois

          Alec Brownscombe daniel marois dlb eh Pent_House 
          Gotcha.  My suspicion is Scrivens is on the block – perhaps Edm.  I think Nonis would like to put together a package to move into the #7 spot.  But that would have to include a d-man and I am afraid a Gardiner/Reilly is what Edm would demand in return (in addition to Scrivens).

        • dlb eh

          daniel marois Alec Brownscombe dlb eh Pent_House 
          it’s easy to say no

        • Black_Hawk

          Burtonboy daniel marois Xxxxxnew hopefully there will never be

        • Pent_House

          Alec Brownscombe I think it’s stupid too. The logical move would be to have both Bernier and Reimer in the fold. You’re giving yourself a really good chance at having above-average goaltending all season long, and you also keep the work-load lower for both goalies, there by keeping them fresh. Down the road you can start worrying about which guy to keep etc.

        • daniel marois

          Pent_House daniel marois 
          Agreed.  And getting Edm’s second rounder this year would be a high selection in the second round.  You will see a lot of first round talent available around Edm’s second round selection.

        • Black_Hawk

          Pent_House Alec Brownscombe yeah that makes a lot more sense.

        • Black_Hawk

          daniel marois Pent_House how we getting that? for scrivens?

        • lukethenuke

          Pent_House Alec Brownscombe The thing is, do we know if bernier is better than Scrivens alone?! Im not sure how much better the guy never plays. I dont know what to think about all this bernier talk.  Seems like everything about him is hype based on his draft position…. 7 YEARS ago.

        • daniel marois

          Pent_House Alec Brownscombe 
          For sure and both goalies (Bernier-Reimer) are right around  the same age.  Let the best man win.

        • Pent_House

          Black_Hawk I’m not sure who and where, but last year, one of those back-ups went for two 2nd’s. I think it was Lindbach.

        • daniel marois

          Pent_House Black_Hawk 
          Yes.  That is the price Yzerman paid for Lindback.  And, Yzerman still saw the need to upgrade in goal when he picked up Bishop late in the season.  Lindback-Bishop…let the best man win.  That is what I think Nonis wants in T.O.

        • Black_Hawk

          lukethenuke Pent_House Alec Brownscombe yup it is all hype but thats what most trades are based on anyways no? i mean it always seems it unproven prospects who look like there going to be good for a proven roster player. I would leave bernier alone personally b/c i do feel scrivens is about as good as him right now (bernier with more upside i guess)

        • Black_Hawk

          Pent_House Black_Hawk Yeah it was lindback to tb for 2 2nds i think

        • Pent_House

          lukethenuke Well I dunno, his numbers when he does get to play are good. He’s also very unique for the league. From watching a few games of him, some highlight videos, and reading scouting reports, he’s a very good hybrid. He’s basically the most stand-up style goalie there is, and he’s really good at handling the puck. It gives you a different style goalie. His game is sort of like a newer version of Brodeur. If he can stop the puck, with good numbers, and handle the puck really well, you’re adding a great element to our back-end. Having that puck-handling goalie makes defence so so much easier, and allows you to break-out much cleaner, and it makes it much harder for teams to fore-check you. If one day the trapezoid is gone, it’ll just make him that much more effective.

        • Black_Hawk

          daniel marois Pent_House Black_Hawk Reimer is proven though, Lindback was not doing the job so Yzerman felt he needed to go out and get someone who could. We know we have a good goalie here who can play.

        • daniel marois

          lukethenuke Pent_House Alec Brownscombe 
          Well he was developing in the AHL (not unlike Reimer before Toskala was booted out of T.O.) and when it came time to play regularly, Quick snapped up the #1 job.  I think he and the LA club feel he is ready for a #1 job.  Just no vacancy in LA.

        • Pent_House

          daniel marois Exactly, I think it’s a great situation to have two young potential #1 goalies and let them duke it out. Reimer has proven a lot, but he hasn’t proven he can handle a true #1 starter’s work-load and stay healthy. If Reimer gets hurt again this season, we might be very happy that Nonis brought in Bernier.

        • Black_Hawk

          Pent_House lukethenuke thats is true having a puck handling goalie is useful

        • Black_Hawk

          Pent_House daniel marois That is a good point.

        • daniel marois

          Black_Hawk Pent_House lukethenuke 
          Is Bernier suppose to be a good puck handling netminder?  That certainly is not one of Reimer’s biggest strength.

        • daniel marois

          Pent_House daniel marois 
          Exactly.  I don’t think T.O. is fuzzy on Reimer’s abilities.  It’s his injury history.  Not unlike the Monster.  He could not stay healthy and Toronto decided it was time to go.  But he clearly did not play at the level Reimer has.

        • Pent_House

          daniel marois Yea playing style wise, you could call him broduer 2.0. I think Brodeur was his idol growing up. He’s really good at handling the puck and making plays with it. Plays a real hybrid style. He’s a stand-up goalie, who also mixes in the butter fly. Good angles, atheletic, sometimes he’ll block, sometimes he’ll catch. He’s a real all around goalie.

        • Black_Hawk

          Pent_House daniel marois that be funny if broduer 2.0 went and backed up broduer 1.0 in nj

        • happy_gilmour

          given eakins, i would think its scrivens, blacker, kulemin and the 1st for their 1st and someone on the outs like hemsky etc… eakins IMHO would want a mixture of youth to blend in and gets his coaching + some defense and reliability… we take back not such a great contract but move way up

        • daniel marois

          Pent_House daniel marois 
          Well he seems to have all the elements and makings of a #1 goalie.  I think in this market, seeing how much we paid in past trades for Raycroft and Toskala, people are fuzzy on trading for a young goalie.  But I feel like Bernier is the real deal.  But again – at what price?

        • daniel marois

          Black_Hawk Pent_House daniel marois 
          Well, have not heard NJ in the mix for him but never count out Lou Lamerello in trade talks.

        • lukethenuke

          happy_gilmour But why would we help them, by trading our assests, and get back thier garbage making us worse in the now and pissibly in the future… i dont get this Eakins wants BS.

        • Black_Hawk

          daniel marois Black_Hawk Pent_House yeah it seems like a good fit though

        • daniel marois

          happy_gilmour 
          In theory, that makes sense.  But that exact proposal would be MacTavish torched by fans.  They would expect something more significant if they are moving out their 7th-overall pick.

        • Pent_House

          daniel marois Yea I’m all for the move, and having a Bernier/Reimer tandem but like you said, the price is the sticking point. Hopefully it’s not too high.

        • daniel marois

          Pent_House daniel marois 
          From all the smoke, it seems Nonis wants a Bernier-Reimer tandem (I think someone on Toronto’s amateur/pro scouting staff really loves Bernier) and Scrivens is on the move given he is a UFA at the end of next season.  Just hope Nonis does not overpay for him.  If any indication, I would think not given his hardball stance with Komorav and Bozak.

        • Black_Hawk

          daniel marois Pent_House giving the Luongo situation i doubt nonis overpays

        • rustynail

          lukethenuke Pent_House Alec Brownscombe he was replaced in the WJC by Mason and won the gold AFTER he was replaced :)

        • dlb eh

          happy_gilmour 
          and lose too much in Kulemin.  we lost game 7 because we lacked one more of that guy.

    • Black_Hawk

      Xxxxxnew man nonis doesnt seem like he is doing shit all so i doubt we “significantly anted up the price”

  • B_Leaf

    I can only speculate, but if the Leafs are looking this hard at Bernier then I have to believe they have a better return coming back for Reimer. Why would they keep both Reimer and Bernier? Bernier wants to start, if he takes the job from Reimer, Reimer becomes a diminished asset. We have a good back-up with Scrivens. This doesn’t really make sense to me.

    • daniel marois

      B_Leaf 
      I totally agree.  Reimer must be in play (I suspect to Edm) and who better to know Reimer than Dallas Eakins.  U would have to think if Edm is the destination that the Oiler’s 7th-overall pick is in play.

      • wendelsfist

        daniel marois B_Leaf Replacing Reimer with an unproven Bernier is risky.   Less so then acquiring raycroft or toskala but this seems a step backwards with the potential to be upgrade in time

        • dlb eh

          wendelsfist daniel marois B_Leaf 
          i can’t fathom trading Reimer away let alone doing it to replace him with anyone short of Lindquist
          seems like NHL13 talk, which is fun, but still ludicrous once the game’s turned off

        • daniel marois

          wendelsfist daniel marois B_Leaf 
          Only thing I can think of is moving Reimer for a top pick like Edm’s.  Look, I know both Bernier and say Sean Monahan (who the Leafs would potenitally draft if available at #7) are still unknowns – but the ceiling on both guys is sky high.

        • wendelsfist

          daniel marois wendelsfist B_Leaf I can see this from the point of view that Bernier with a quality veteran backup would fit the team Nonis wants to build.

        • daniel marois

          wendelsfist daniel marois B_Leaf 
          Yes.  Meaning once Bernier becomes a Leaf buy the draft, the Leafs would sign a UFA vet goalie on July 5th.  That could very well be the plan in place.

        • Black_Hawk

          wendelsfist daniel marois B_Leaf yeah it would be stupid imo to go into the season with bernier as our number one over reimer. Reimer has proven him self in the playoffs while bernier has done shit all

        • reenergized

          dlb eh wendelsfist daniel marois B_Leaf not that I actually want Bernier … but did you just compare riemr to Lindquist … really?

      • djamon

        Edm is in the exact situation we are though. They have Dubnyk with pretty good numbers, why would they trade for essentially the same thing?

        • rustynail

          djamon Calgary on the other hand

    • Alec Brownscombe

      B_Leaf Do you realize what you’re implying?
      We get rid of our starter for an unproven entity. Genius.

      • Black_Hawk

        Alec Brownscombe B_Leaf yeah really dumb

    • Alec Brownscombe

      B_Leaf Do you realize what you’re implying?
      We get rid of our starter for an unproven entity. Genius.

    • Pent_House

      B_Leaf I don’t know why everyone turns to this negative conclusion. What’s wrong with having a really good tandem and a 1A 1B situation. It’s all over the league. Personally I think the Leafs wouldn’t want to keep Scrivens around.

    • Black_Hawk

      B_Leaf that would be so stupid to do

  • dlb eh

    1.  create CAP space
    (trade Grabovski, Liles and some other guys)
    2.  let Bozak and Mac go
    3.  Sign Miller, Lindquist and Bryzgalov if he’s bought out
    4.  trade for Bernier
    5.  Sign Gordon
    6.  Sign Clarkson
    7.  Draft MacKinnon

    • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ LeoTheLion

      dlb eh LOL funny joke.

      • dlb eh

        @LeoTheLion dlb eh 
        i know, i didn’t address our need for a 2D

    • Black_Hawk

      dlb eh lol at 3

    • Black_Hawk

      dlb eh lol at 3

  • Xxxxxnew

    I wonder if the Bernier stuff has anything to do with Leiweke?

    • Pent_House

      Xxxxxnew Hopefully not.

    • reenergized

      Xxxxxnew has to …

    • Cameron19

      Xxxxxnew I doubt it.

      • dlb eh

        Cameron19 Xxxxxnew 
        E3 at most

    • Black_Hawk

      Xxxxxnew he probably would like it but i hope not b/c i dont want him calling the shots.

  • Burtonboy

    https://twitter.com/Hope_Smoke
    Jeff O’Neil “why is everyone so excited about Bernier? Have they watched him practice all year? I feel for Reimer, he carried the Leafs”

    • dlb eh

      Burtonboy 
      hi Jeff, lurker

    • Black_Hawk

      Burtonboy exactly why i wouldnt bring him in

    • Alec Brownscombe

      Burtonboy Not sure what more he could’ve proven.

      • Burtonboy

        Alec Brownscombe Burtonboy I originally thought this was simply Nonis returning a call from Lombardi and kicking tires a bit . Sure seems to be a bit more then that . I’m not a fan of this deal at all and Nonis gets a black mark in my book if he gives up good assets to acquire Bernier

        • Loric76

          Burtonboy Alec Brownscombe Nonis is hurting my head

        • Black_Hawk

          Burtonboy Alec Brownscombe i doubt he overpays thought. Look at the luongo situation, he didnt budge on that front.

        • Black_Hawk

          Loric76 Burtonboy Alec Brownscombe yeah he is like that, i wont be surprised if he doesnt do anything b/c i remember he was like that in VAN, very patient

        • Black_Hawk

          Loric76 Burtonboy Alec Brownscombe yeah he is like that, i wont be surprised if he doesnt do anything b/c i remember he was like that in VAN, very patient

        • lukethenuke

          Black_Hawk Loric76 Burtonboy Alec Brownscombe NO NO NONIS

        • Loric76

          Black_Hawk Loric76 Burtonboy Alec Brownscombe patiently waiting to do the right thing I don’t mind.  Being patient about a stupid move though

        • rustynail

          Burtonboy Alec Brownscombe takin me off the fence too

        • Black_Hawk

          rustynail Burtonboy Alec Brownscombe you dont like him?

    • Alec Brownscombe

      Burtonboy Not sure what more he could’ve proven.

  • Black_Hawk

    hahaha Tortorella is close to becoming the canucks next coach

    • maple1967leafs

      wait till he trys to get the Sedin sisters blocking shots

  • maple1967leafs

    NBC says its down to leafs-flyers and minny for Bernier

    • Black_Hawk

      maple1967leafs i hope we dont get him, i mean thats a giant middle finger to reimer. Rather just bring in a experienced back up in FA

      • dlb eh

        Black_Hawk maple1967leafs 
        i don’t think Reimer would even think that way.
        i think Anthony’s article the other day was well thought out: Reimer has not played a full season yet.  Bernier upgrades Scrivens imo.  that’s all.  it’s not a slight to Reimer.  it’s just a better insurance policy.
        of course, i have NO idea about Bernier, so i’m only reasoning that’s Nonis’ thinking if this is all true.

        • Black_Hawk

          dlb eh Black_Hawk maple1967leafs wouldnt you think that though? you play so hard and good and then they still bring in someone who might take your job. It would piss me off thats for sure.

        • dlb eh

          Black_Hawk dlb eh maple1967leafs 
          not me.  if i’m that good i’m not worried.  i don’t pretend to deserve anything i don’t earn.  fact is, Reimer has been awesome for us…WHEN he’s been healthy.  we went off a cliff in between his two good runs, ‘member?

  • lukethenuke

    So im presuming the offseason would look like this if we get bernier:
    IN: Bernier, Clarkson, Scuderi, 7th overall/ 2nd (for scrivy)
    OUT: Reimer/Scivens, Mac, Bozak, Frattin

    Obviously give take a little but as the main ins and outs?

    • Black_Hawk

      lukethenuke i would not move reimer out at all

    • lukethenuke

      man i do not want to lose frattin for bernier tho… ugh would prefer they take liles, maybe to replace scuds

      • Black_Hawk

        lukethenuke no way they take liles for bernier imo. They need something younger. And liles doesnt fill scuderi’s role b/c they play diff games. I dont like the idea of giving up frattin either b/c he has shown glimpses of developing into a great pwr forward

        • lukethenuke

          Black_Hawk lukethenuke We’re already losing our identity as speedy team without mac and now frattin ugh.  Clarkson isnt fast, i just fear.
          .
          As for liles, who knows how other teams view him.  And we have NO idea what LA wants for Bernier… vets, prospects, picks, young player…. TOO HARD to predict what he’d cost just based on we dont know what thyey want and we could speculate all day different scenarios which would be pointless

        • Black_Hawk

          lukethenuke Black_Hawk yeah that is true we dont know what they want but if i were them i wud want frattin too

        • dlb eh

          lukethenuke Black_Hawk 
          Clarkson doesn’t simply replace Mac.  he also makes it possible to stay Carlyle tough while sitting one of Orr and McLaren.
          team speed AND hitting is lost if Frattin and Leo leave.  THAT’s important.  i’m sure our coach is very in tune with what we don’t want to go without.
          i’m not worried.

        • Black_Hawk

          dlb eh lukethenuke Black_Hawk RC is a good coach. He will know what to do

        • lukethenuke

          dlb eh lukethenuke Black_Hawk Im not sure …. seems like our GM is all over the map right now. frattin, leo, Mac all speedsters… and then all of you wanting Grabo bought out and replaced by colborne… fuck

        • Black_Hawk

          lukethenuke dlb eh Black_Hawk I would keep grabo for next season

        • lukethenuke

          Black_Hawk lukethenuke dlb eh Me too i think its stupid people wanting this warrior gone.

        • Pent_House

          dlb eh It depends who we replace Frattin with if he goes. For example, if `D“amigo cracks the roster in camp, he`s faster than Frattin. So many variables in place right now, makes it really tough to figure out how the roster shakes out come next season. We haven`t had an off-season with this much potential for change in a long-time.

        • Pent_House

          dlb eh It depends who we replace Frattin with if he goes. For example, if `D“amigo cracks the roster in camp, he`s faster than Frattin. So many variables in place right now, makes it really tough to figure out how the roster shakes out come next season. We haven`t had an off-season with this much potential for change in a long-time.

        • Black_Hawk

          Pent_House dlb eh yeah but im sure nonis will do what is best.

        • dlb eh

          lukethenuke dlb eh Black_Hawk 
          seems like our GM is all over the map IF you’re reading all the rumours lol
          i bet he’d find this all real amusing.

        • Black_Hawk

          dlb eh lukethenuke Black_Hawk he probably does

        • Dangle_My_Berries

          dlb eh lukethenuke Black_Hawk hes sitting in his office with a scotch reading and chuckling to himself “you boys are wayyyy off” …… or “how come I never thought of that” lol

        • Black_Hawk

          Dangle_My_Berries dlb eh lukethenuke Black_Hawk lol the second one would be hilarious. He sees the proposed trade and drops his glass to get on the phone

        • Dangle_My_Berries

          Black_Hawk Dangle_My_Berries dlb eh lukethenuke spits out is scotch and gets on the horn with Edmonton lol

        • Black_Hawk

          Dangle_My_Berries Black_Hawk dlb eh lukethenuke lol i could see it

        • wendelsfist

          Black_Hawk Dangle_My_Berries dlb eh lukethenuke Trading for Dipietro for sure came off the board

        • dlb eh

          Dangle_My_Berries dlb eh lukethenuke Black_Hawk 
          psst, hey NoNo
          Liles, Mac, Scrivens
          Scuderi, Bernier

        • Black_Hawk

          wendelsfist Black_Hawk Dangle_My_Berries dlb eh lukethenuke for sure

        • wendelsfist

          dlb eh lukethenuke Black_Hawk Bingo. People may not wnat Carlyle to play Orr but then they complain about what getting him out of lineup requires.

    • Pent_House

      lukethenuke I think overall we get bigger, stronger and more talented. The only guy I’d be upset about losing would be Frattin.

      • Black_Hawk

        Pent_House lukethenuke yeah that would suck

    • Black_Hawk

      Gilbey93 lukethenuke i agree reimer stays

    • Black_Hawk

      lukethenuke maybe we trade Frattin and a 2nd for bernier and then trade scrivens to EDM for there 2nd?

      • Pent_House

        Black_Hawk Very possible.

        • daniel marois

          Pent_House Black_Hawk 
          I think that is what the Leafs hope goes down in acquiring Bernier and dealing out Scrivens.

        • Black_Hawk

          daniel marois Pent_House Black_Hawk might be

    • Alec Brownscombe

      Why is Reimer in the OUT list, are you insane?!

  • lukethenuke

    Guys, I miss Burkie :(:(

    • Black_Hawk

      lukethenuke lol yeah he was good

    • Dangle_My_Berries

      lukethenuke keep it together man! he’s gone now, he’s not coming back *slaps face repeatedly

      • Waiting4LSC

        Dangle, he may be gone, but he burns bright with me. NoNo seems so timid in comparison . I’m not going to slap my face, but thump my chest. He is one of my all time favourite Leafs.

        • Dangle_My_Berries

          Waiting4LSC I liked him too, trust me it stung the day he was fired

        • Dangle_My_Berries

          Waiting4LSC but its onward and upward now, remember him for all the good things he did for this organization and hope NoNo builds on his work

        • Waiting4LSC

          I know. Will give NoNo respect , and hope Lieweke knows what he is doing. I don’t live in the past, but always want to shine a Bright light for great people. Whenever Felix, Vinny D or Gary Nyland are mentioned on here, big smile, great memories. Gotta keep the candles burning for our heroes.

    • peterbleafs

      Shithead Cope lukethenuke I just saw This is the End with Seth Rogen and clearly if the apocalypse arrived now, Ron Wilson would play that Cera kid and Brian Burke would be Jonah guy.

    • Waiting4LSC

      Good sir, love the name. Hope you can re ally irk some people.

  • peterbleafs

    Okay if this Mantha is so big, so fast, and the leading scorer why is he ranked where he is?  These profiles make these guys seem better than they are.  BTW I had lunch at the Cambridge Mall foodcourt where they have an arena indoors.  Barb Underhill was working with two of the Leafs young OHL player prospects…I think Matt Finn but not sure who the other kid was.

    • Black_Hawk

      peterbleafs yeah most of them do

    • Cameron19

      peterbleafs Wingers tend to fall down the chart because teams prioritize centers and defenders.

  • Cameron19

    You guys are posting up a storm today.

    • Pent_House

      Cameron19 So much to talk about, and a lot of potential for change for next season makes things interesting.

    • Black_Hawk

      Cameron19 Bernier is a hot topic it appears

    • daniel marois

      Cameron19 
      What else gets this board active.  Trade rumours!!

      • Black_Hawk

        daniel marois Cameron19 or a game

  • Cameron19

    I will say this about trade rumors that actually involve names: the media normally invents the names they believe are involved.  Unless it’s a situation like the Iginla near-trade to Boston, where the call is almost completed and players are actually be shuffled and prepared for a move, than names are all speculation.

    So those of you apprehensive about Frattin leaving, I wouldn’t get too worried just yet. Remember, when Rick Nash was on the block, the rumored return was Del Zotto, Kreider, Erixon and a 1st, but it turned out those top assets never got moved – as usual.

    Personally, I think if we are looking at Bernier, and we are leading the pack with an offer others don’t want to match, I’m betting we’ve thrown our 1st round pick on the table, and maybe a depth player like Holzer. We are at a stage where picks can only help us by adding to our roster immediately.  Drafting Lazar or Mantha or whoever would be a five year wait. Conversely, the Kings are set, and need to re-establish a pipeline of young talent.

    • Black_Hawk

      Cameron19 maybe but i want to use that 1st rounder as well. It is always good to keep fresh blood coming into the system.

      • Cameron19

        Black_Hawk Cameron19 We have nothing but young guys who can’t crack our roster as is though.  At what point do you want to help our actual roster improve, instead of our pipeline?

        • Black_Hawk

          Cameron19 Black_Hawk but is it improving out roster is my question? i mean bernier is good (or sounds it) but if we give up a frattin does it help? Letting frattin develop might be a better option instead of bringing in a back up. I know you said trade the 1st and holzer but just a thought.

        • Cameron19

          Black_Hawk Cameron19 Well, that’s exactly what I’m saying though.  Keep Frattin on the roster, to help us now, and also add Bernier to potentially be a 1B type of back-up. Then you trade Scrivens for a 2nd round pick. Basically I’m saying:

          Frattin + Bernier + 2nd > Holzer + Scrivens + 1st

        • Black_Hawk

          Cameron19 Black_Hawk yeah IF that is the deal thats fine but it may not be

        • Cameron19

          Black_Hawk Cameron19 All the other teams involved have a player like Frattin they could offer up though, and one who is probably more highly thought of, too.  The Flyers would do Read for Bernier, but not their 11th overall pick.  The Wild would do Clutterbuck, but he will get more money than the Kings want to spend on depth forwards, and they already traded their 1st round pick.

          If we’re leading the pack, I have a feeling it’s because we’ve dangled our 1st, where the other teams aren’t willing to.

        • Black_Hawk

          Cameron19 Black_Hawk ALSO wouldnt it be better to trade that 1st rounder for a potential number one center orD?

        • wendelsfist

          Cameron19 Black_Hawk It might not be bad provided the leafs get a 1st some other way.  But I’d rather that 1st be used for upgrading the d or center.

        • Black_Hawk

          wendelsfist Cameron19 Black_Hawk yeah me too

        • Cameron19

          Black_Hawk Cameron19 Yes, but I doubt any such trade is an option for us. And I’ve said it before, but I think using assets to bring in D would be a total waste of assets.

        • Black_Hawk

          Cameron19 Black_Hawk How bout a center though? i think that 1st rounder gives us statsny by itself

        • Cameron19

          Black_Hawk Cameron19 Yep, but we have tons of assets we could move in a Stastny deal.

        • wendelsfist

          Cameron19 Black_Hawk It could be the same trade trade but replace the leaf 1st with our 2nd.    Minnesota does not have a 1st.

        • Black_Hawk

          Cameron19 Black_Hawk i guess but do we really?

        • Black_Hawk

          wendelsfist Cameron19 Black_Hawk that could be true also but we wont really know until the trade is made.

    • mapleleafmuse

      Cameron19 Couldn’t have said it any better. A draft pick’s worth has so many components and at this point in time, as you said, “picks can only help us by adding to our roster immediately”.  It’s weird how the Leafs are sellers and buyers, all at once.

      • Pent_House

        mapleleafmuse Absolutes are rare in the world. I like to think we`re opportunists, and buy when it`s the right time, and sell when it`s the right time.

    • quintensmids

      Cameron19 If we’re at the “use picks to fix our current roster” stage NOW, then we should maybe, y’know, improve our roster.  Adding a goalie for if Reimer goes down makes some sense, but using valuable assets to fill a hole that has already been filled? Makes little to no sense.  If we’re trading for help now, we should be putting that 1st rounder towards a D, ie. Letang, Yandle, Pieterangelo, etc.

      • Cameron19

        quintensmids Cameron19 Those pieces aren’t available.  Well, maybe Yandle, but he’s not a very appealing option, in my opinion.

        • quintensmids

          Cameron19 quintensmids Pieterangelo is RFA, so if we were to do an offer sheet they couldn’t match (ie 4 draft pick range) it’d be smart to keep our pick this year.  It doesn’t specifically have to be one of those guys, but why use assets for a position we’re already strong at?

          anyways, I doubt this even happens, probably will end up as just tire-kicking

        • Black_Hawk

          Cameron19 quintensmids yandle would be awesome

        • Black_Hawk

          Cameron19 quintensmids i would trade our 1st for yandle

        • Cameron19

          Black_Hawk Cameron19 quintensmids Why?  Doesn’t play against 1st or 2nd lines, loads of points in sheltered and special teams.  We already have tons of guys who can do that.  We need someone who can play top minutes more regularly than Gunnarsson.

        • Cameron19

          Black_Hawk Cameron19 quintensmids Why?  Doesn’t play against 1st or 2nd lines, loads of points in sheltered and special teams.  We already have tons of guys who can do that.  We need someone who can play top minutes more regularly than Gunnarsson.

        • Black_Hawk

          Cameron19 Black_Hawk quintensmids i think yandle can do that. He is a very good puck moving d man and would help phaneuf in that regard. I think he would be a great add.

        • Cameron19

          Black_Hawk Cameron19 quintensmids He has yet to do anything of the kind though, so why not just give our own guys the chance?  If you just let Gardiner develop, he’ll be there by the end of the year…

        • Black_Hawk

          Cameron19 Black_Hawk quintensmids yeah but wouldnt it be better to have two great dman instead of one?

        • Black_Hawk

          Cameron19 Black_Hawk quintensmids yeah but wouldnt it be better to have two great dman instead of one?

        • quintensmids

          Cameron19 Black_Hawk quintensmids it doesn’t have to be Yandle, and I agree he’s not really the type of D we want, but he would be a hell of a lot more useful to us than Bernier.  There will obviously be D available if you’re giving away your first.

        • Cameron19

          Black_Hawk Cameron19 quintensmids We have one in Rielly.  Then we’d just have 3 of them and end up having to move one.  So why make the move at all?  Why not just concentrate assets on something we don’t have in the system?

          Sign Scuderi, let the rest of the D sort itself our with development.  In 2 years, our D will be as follows, and it will be elite:

          Gardiner / Phaneuf
          Rielly / Franson
          Gunnarsson / Granberg
          (Fraser, Blacker)

        • Black_Hawk

          quintensmids Cameron19 Black_Hawk thats true too

        • Black_Hawk

          Cameron19 Black_Hawk quintensmids i rather yandle than bernier, it would make the team better next year and if we have to move him later then thats fine b/c we have younger players who are becoming better then him but until they are or if they ever do become better still remains to be seen.

        • Cameron19

          Black_Hawk Cameron19 quintensmids Sure, I’d rather him than Bernier, too, but you’re not getting him for just a 1st. You’d have to be throwing in Gunnarsson, and/or Frattin/Kulemin, etc… Waste of assets when what the organization needs, long-term, is top six centers.

        • Pent_House

          Cameron19 That`s what a championship D should look like.

        • Black_Hawk

          Cameron19 Black_Hawk quintensmids 1st line center, but i dont think it would be a waste of assests. If he sucked ass that would be a waste of assests but if he does well then it wouldnt be. I agree it would take more than the 1st but i think he would upgrade the d core. now the price we would have to think about. If its too much then dont move him but if its not that bad then its good. Like Fratin, 1st, percy/finn/holzer, throw in a 2nd if you have too

        • Cameron19

          Black_Hawk Cameron19 quintensmids Yes, but you’re missing my point.  The D corps will upgrade itself if we’re patient – the pieces are already in place.

        • Black_Hawk

          Cameron19 Black_Hawk quintensmids yeah i know that im just saying there is a slight chance it might not upgrade from within. Yandle would be a great add but i agree not at a detrimental price.

        • quintensmids

          Cameron19 Black_Hawk quintensmids  I think the idea of adding Scuderi is a good one.  However, do you think he would be willing to accept a shorter term deal, or are you willing to take the risk of a 3-4 year deal and hope to be able to trade him near the end of the deal?

    • whalz

      i wouldnt be surprised if NONIS has something up his sleeve,,either:
      frattin + 2nd or percy/finn for Bernier
      then
      flip Reimer + holzer for 7th overall..

      • Cameron19

        @whalz And our team gets dramatically worse in one week.

        • whalz

          explain?
          bernier for reimer is a wash…
          holzer and frattin is not worth 7th overall to draft a Monahan?
          finn or percy is behind gardsm reilly, blacker.

        • quintensmids

          @whalz bernier for reimer is NOWHERE NEAR a wash

        • Black_Hawk

          Cameron19 yup

        • Black_Hawk

          quintensmids i agree

        • Black_Hawk

          @whalz no way bernier who has done nothing is a wash with reimer who stole games in the playoffs

        • Cameron19

          @whalz lol, No, no it isn’t a wash.  Not even close. Bernier has yet to achieve anything, in my opinion.  Our goalie situation would be dramatically worse.

      • Cameron19

        @whalz And our team gets dramatically worse in one week.

      • quintensmids

        @whalz worst proposal ever.  why trade a top 10 goalie for a question mark draft pick?

        • Cameron19

          quintensmids Because we’d have BERNIER!!!!!!

        • whalz

          a top 10 goalie? worst statement ever!!! lol

        • quintensmids

          @whalzhttp://espn.go.com/nhl/statistics/player/_/stat/goaltending/sort/savePct/seasontype/2

          what was that you were saying??

        • quintensmids

          Cameron19 quintensmids lol that seems to be the thinking…

        • whalz

          lmao…….1/2 a season does not make reimer a top 10 goalie in the league,,,perhaps this yr, but not a top 10

        • Cameron19

          @whalz Well, 2 of his 3 seasons in the NHL he’s finished there, so whatever.  I guess being drafted high is a better accomplishment though.

        • Cameron19

          @whalz Well, 2 of his 3 seasons in the NHL he’s finished there, so whatever.  I guess being drafted high is a better accomplishment though.

        • quintensmids

          @whalz but 12 games makes Bernier better? Your logic is nothing short of hysterical

        • whalz

          not at all,,,,,,,im just trying to figure out why Nonis is expressing interest in Bernier? id be happy with a tandem of bernier-reimer,
          id also state that reimer has been prone to injuries and maybe Nonis isnt comfortable with reims…

        • whalz

          not at all,,,,,,,im just trying to figure out why Nonis is expressing interest in Bernier? id be happy with a tandem of bernier-reimer,
          id also state that reimer has been prone to injuries and maybe Nonis isnt comfortable with reims…

        • quintensmids

          Cameron19 I like how he brings up sample size without realizing he has a boner for someone who played 12 games this year

        • Cameron19

          @whalz There would be no bernier-reimer tandem.  It would be REIMER…..bernier.

        • Cameron19

          quintensmids Cameron19 Only cracked 20 once in 4 years in the league, almost all of his games against weak opponents, or teams in slumps – backup games.

        • whalz

          lol,,,,,,get the blue and white goggles off,,,,theres a reason why teams are interested in him,,,im just saying id trade fratts + a 2nd or prospect for him,,,,,a lot of NHL executives and media think he is a great goalie with a higher ceiling,,,IMO i think hes worth it.

        • Black_Hawk

          Cameron19 i agree with that

        • Black_Hawk

          @whalz what blue and white goggles? Reimer is better than Bernier at this point

        • quintensmids

          Cameron19 quintensmids while playing behind a stacked team.. but 1st round pick is all Leaf fans can see.. they want to give away a 1st rounder in likely a better draft for someone based purely on their 1st round pedigree.. laughable.

        • whalz

          lol  ok

        • quintensmids

          @whalz tell me one reason why he is better than Reimer and I will agree.

        • Pent_House

          quintensmids He handles the puck better by far

        • whalz

          chill out,have you watched Bernier play? hes a good goalie who was stuck behind quick

        • Cameron19

          @whalz This is infinitely ridiculous logic.  The Flyers are the team most interested in him.  It is pretty clear they are manipulating the situation to try and get him as cheap as they can.  This is a team that gave Bryzgalov 60+ million dollars, and yet you’re using their interest to support the fact that Bernier must worth it? lol

          I could see trading Frattin + 2nd for him, but that’s not what you were getting called out on.  It was your absurd comment about Bernier in for Reimer being a wash.

        • Cameron19

          @whalz Yea, the one game a month he plays in LA is surely what every fan sets their PVR to record.  I mean, if the media says he’s good….

        • whalz

          Cameron cmon, weak opponents? cracked 20 gms because he was stuck behind a top 3 goalie in the league….how many games have backups to Brodeur or Roy get ?/?

        • whalz

          Cameron cmon, weak opponents? cracked 20 gms because he was stuck behind a top 3 goalie in the league….how many games have backups to Brodeur or Roy get ?/?

        • Pent_House

          Cameron19 He was playing 5 games a month for the 2nd half of the season this year but same point.

        • whalz

          thats what im saying , has to be a reason? maybe Reims wants a trade? wtf knows why

        • Cameron19

          @whalz Yes, weak opponents.  When do most teams play their backups?  When they need to give their starter a rest, against teams they think they can beat without the edge in net.  And this was actually the first year that Bernier provided adequate relief in net. 

          What he has achieved so far is very little in comparison to Reimer, despite the relatively small difference between them in games played over their career.  Reimer has been carrying a bad defensive team, whereas Bernier has been used in sheltered situations behind an elite defensive team – maybe the best defensive team in the league.

        • Pent_House

          Yaknowwhat Why do you think getting Bernier has anything to do with Reimer….I don`t get these leaps in logic, for all we know, it could be about Scrivens

        • Pent_House

          Yaknowwhat Why do you think getting Bernier has anything to do with Reimer….I don`t get these leaps in logic, for all we know, it could be about Scrivens

        • Cameron19

          Yaknowwhat Ugh, lol, there are literally dozens of reasons he would pursue him that don’t involve your ‘doubt-Reimer’ conclusion, but the most obvious of them is simply that they’re upgrading the back-up role.

        • whalz

          where did i EVER say Bernier was BETTER? i said it would be a wash imo,

        • Cameron19

          @whalz No one accused you of anything but…

        • Xxxxxnew

          You’d thing the guy had 300 nhl games under his belt the way people talk about Bernier. He’s played 62 games since being drafted in 2006.

        • whalz

          absurd? didnt know i had to agree with you and not have my own opinion?
          fair enough seems like im  not going to win this discussion., in all honesty IDGAF,,,,,lol

        • Black_Hawk

          Yaknowwhat Pent_House yeah i think he only plays behind brouduer in NJ b/c that was his favourite player (i mean not minding it of course)

        • Cameron19

          Yaknowwhat Pent_House What he wants doesn’t mean jack shit. Not sure why you think any GM would care what he wants. He has to earn it anywhere he goes.

        • Cameron19

          Yaknowwhat Pent_House What he wants doesn’t mean jack shit. Not sure why you think any GM would care what he wants. He has to earn it anywhere he goes.

        • quintensmids

          Yaknowwhat Pent_House which is why Nonis should focus on, maybe, I dunno, IMPROVING the team.. rather then using assets to fill a hole that’s been filled.

        • Pent_House

          Yaknowwhat Lol “Bernier wants to be a starter” I hate hearing this dumb shit. What goalie doesn’t want to be a starter? Scrivens wants to be a starter, should we move him because that’s what he wants. So because he wants to be a starter means he’ll get what he wants? I think the point is he wants a chance to win the starter’s job, he doesn’t expect it to be given to him because he wants it. Nothing wrong with Reimer and Bernier both playing 40 games next season, which would be a huge increase in work-load to what he had in LA.

        • Black_Hawk

          Cameron19 Yaknowwhat Pent_House Yeah that is true. i would kick him off my team if he complained about ice time if he is being outplayed.

        • Black_Hawk

          Yaknowwhat Black_Hawk yes

        • Pent_House

          Yaknowwhat You think Scrivens is not focused on being a starter? lol. Bernier is the last guy to accuse of complaining. He sat on the bench for another two seasons after he requested a trade, and Darrly Sutter commended him for being a team guy and not complaining.

        • whalz

          maybe the problem is Scrivens backing up? maybe NONIS doesnt feel that Reimer can handle playing 60+ gms?
          guess we will find out soon

        • Pent_House

          Yaknowwhat Okay…and there’s a million other situations were a tandem is great. Look at Halak and Elliot in St. Louis. Holtby and Neurvirth in Washington. Hiller and Fasth in Anaheim. ….. Also it’s been shown that Bernier is team guy. If you can’t see that…then hmmmm. Jabroni.

        • whalz

          which is why i think NONIS has an issue with Reimer playing 60+ gms? maybe he thinks a tandem will push eachother?  perhaps Scrivens asked for a trade?

        • Pent_House

          Yaknowwhat Now you’re back tracking and trying to raise different points. By your logic a few comments ago, we should be moving Scrivens because he wants to be a starter too. Lol. Why do it, because we’re upgrading a crucial position. Bernier is also a different style goalie than Scrivens and Reimer, maybe the organization wants to add some variety and add a guy with pedigree. Also saying we have more pressing needs is ridiculous. It’s not like adding Bernier would stop us from pursuing other avenues. We’re not limited to one trade an off-season here, there’s no cap on transactions. Mgt could easily be concerned with Reimer’s ability to stay healthy and consistently being able to deal with a starter’s work-load. Get out of that little box you’re thinking in.

        • Pent_House

          Yaknowwhat I think you’re the one who is getting emotional. You’re jumping to a negative conclusion, and thinking worst case scenario. It’s possible that the Leafs want to trade Reimer, but maybe it’s about Scrivens. I’m good with it, in either scenario. I’m thinking about the positive possibilities, you’re on this sky is falling mentality.

        • rustynail

          Pent_House Yaknowwhat any of them win a cup? :)

        • rustynail

          Yaknowwhat Cameron19 Calgary sure looks attractive if you are a goalie

        • wiski

          rustynail Yaknowwhat Cameron19 or a duck 😉

  • Black_Hawk

    Guys we are close to getting Torts in VAN, thats hilarious

    • lukethenuke

      Black_Hawk It wouldve been so much better to have wilson as the front runner hehe

    • wendelsfist

      Black_Hawk What happened with him and Richards and Gaborik – did he not like their effort or shot blocking or soft play?

      • Black_Hawk

        wendelsfist Black_Hawk lol everything that he will hate in VAN

        • wendelsfist

          Black_Hawk wendelsfist   It seems a terrible match – a defense minded coach with an uptempo offensively gifted team.  He will also push Gillies to bring more grit.   Clowe, Clarkson, Horton and even a few puglists.

        • Black_Hawk

          wendelsfist Black_Hawk good i hope he ruins the team lol

    • phaneufoundlander

      cant wait to see the Sedin sisters cry….

      • rustynail

        phaneufoundlander apparently they pushed to have Torts as coach

        • phaneufoundlander

          they have chosen their own poison then…..but I find that hard to believe…..its not like he has ever coached them, why would the sisters want a guy they dont even know? Do they like to be bitch slapped?

        • phaneufoundlander

          they have chosen their own poison then…..but I find that hard to believe…..its not like he has ever coached them, why would the sisters want a guy they dont even know? Do they like to be bitch slapped?

  • rustynail

    https://twitter.com/TheFourthPeriod: Word out of Calgary is that the Saddledome is flooded up to the luxury boxes now. https://twitter.com/search?q=%23uncle&src=hash

    • Black_Hawk

      rustynail whoa thats too bad

  • rustynail

    https://twitter.com/EricFrancishttps://twitter.com/EricFrancis/status/348194501136883714
    Best stat from https://twitter.com/search?q=%23YYCflood&src=hash is that 100,000+ have been evacuated and only 1,500 needed shelter. The rest were taken in by fellow Calgarians

    • Black_Hawk

      rustynail nice to see people helping people

  • rustynail

    https://twitter.com/Hope_Smokehttps://twitter.com/Hope_Smoke/status/348186688788516864
    Mckenzie on TSN Radio “Not a surprise if Bernier is dealt before the draft. Philly’s desire to acquire is obvious. He’s their Plan A”

    • Cameron19

      rustynail They will win the sweepstakes.

      • Loric76

        Cameron19 rustynail Good.  I’d rather we save our trade assets for something we actually need to improve

        • Cameron19

          Loric76 Cameron19 rustynail My preference also, but I get it if Nonis thinks that an elite tandem would improve us.

        • Black_Hawk

          Loric76 Cameron19 rustynail i agree

        • wendelsfist

          Loric76 Cameron19 rustynail we can even trade scrivens to LA for some assets and get a veteran backup

        • Loric76

          Cameron19 Loric76 rustynail It would, but by how much?  There are bigger bangs for our buck out there.  This is one of those situations where the best move is staying put.

      • Black_Hawk

        Cameron19 rustynail probably

      • Burtonboy

        Cameron19 rustynail That would be just fine with me .

    • Cameron19

      rustynail They will win the sweepstakes.

  • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ Radar O’Rielly

    So who are we picking with the 7th overall pick?

    • Black_Hawk

      Radar O’Rielly Makinnon

      • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ Radar O’Rielly

        Black_Hawk Radar O’Rielly So 6 other teams are suffering from mental illness?

        • wendelsfist

          Radar O’Rielly Black_Hawk If only the Flames owned the first 6 picks

        • Black_Hawk

          Radar O’Rielly Black_Hawk nope just that we aren’t getting the 7th pick so no point to speculate who we are getting with it

        • Black_Hawk

          Radar O’Rielly Black_Hawk the likely hood of us picking makinnon at 7 is the likely hood of us getting the 7th pick is all

        • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ Radar O’Rielly

          Black_Hawk Radar O’Rielly Just asking who is in that 7th pick range if we had it.  But be a dick 😉

        • Black_Hawk

          Radar O’Rielly Black_Hawk lol yeah sorry my bad, i turned into the kind of person i never wanted to be. Let me try again. I think we would pick Monahan……..lol

        • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ Radar O’Rielly

          Black_Hawk Radar O’Rielly Its Friday, BREATH! LOL

        • Black_Hawk

          Radar O’Rielly Black_Hawk lol haha

    • Black_Hawk

      Radar O’Rielly Makinnon

  • quintensmids

    These Bernier rumors are dumb as fuck and will end up being nothing while Bernier ends up in Philly.  If Reimer was the one drafted in the first round and Bernier was the 4th rounder, no one would even CONSIDER this.   Reimer has proven to be a legit number 1 goalie while Bernier had 12 solid games on a stacked team.

    • Black_Hawk

      quintensmids ture

    • Cameron19

      quintensmids It’s pretty absurd. Better just believe what the media tells us – Bernier is God!

      • quintensmids

        Guarantee they haven’t seen Bernier play once but see “1st Round Pick” and get a hard on the size of the CN

        • Cameron19

          quintensmids Funny how that never applies to any of our 1st round picks…despite the fact that like all of them become NHL players, lol.

      • MaxwellHowe

        Cameron19 quintensmids I still think the Isles have the inside track on Bernier.  Tons of assets available to make that trade. And they sure have a greater motivation

        • Black_Hawk

          MaxwellHowe Cameron19 quintensmids thats an interesting team for sure

    • JustYouW8

      quintensmids I think Bernier will be a great goalie, but I (and everyone else) just don’t see a need for him in Toronto. Let’s hope Nonis and co. are playing their cards right.

      • Black_Hawk

        JustYouW8 quintensmids we are just going to have to trust him

        • JustYouW8

          Black_Hawk JustYouW8 quintensmids I would think if they are seriously moving towards this deal that they have a larger plan in place. I trust Nonis with keeping the young talent intact more than any Leafs GM I grew up watching..

        • Black_Hawk

          JustYouW8 Black_Hawk quintensmids Yeah he is keen on young players and developing. Just look at the luongo deal, he wouldnt give up significant young pieces away for him.

    • phaneufoundlander

      how is LA stacked? They were 8th place last year, won a cup and got booted in the semi’s this year….if they missed the playoffs last year no one would even be talking about what a great team Bernier plays for.

  • wendelsfist

    I read two stories that “some scout says” the the 2013 draft is deep for the first 10 picks.  But depth beyond that is comparable to other years.  So our 21st this year is not better then other years.    And if we move up I hope it is to the top 10
    http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/49838-2013-NHL-draft-lacks-depth-of-talent.html
    http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/04/08/2013-nhl-draft-a-banner-year-not-so-fast/

  • Xxxxxnew

    The rumour was started by a writer with the Flyer’s Comcast network earlier today who said the Leafs had “upped the ante” in the bidding for Bernier. No specifics, just indicated it might be too much forthe Flyers. Could be posturing.

  • Bobsyouruncle

    Fuck you guys are idiots!!!!  You’d trade Reimer to Edmonton for 7th overall when we could just trade him to Colorado for 1st overall?

    • Black_Hawk

      Bobsyouruncle thats not very nice

      • Bobsyouruncle

        Black_Hawk Bobsyouruncle Okay Reimer + 7th rounder.

        • Loric76

          Bobsyouruncle Black_Hawk I thought our 7th rounder was already slated to get us 2nd overall?

        • Black_Hawk

          Bobsyouruncle Black_Hawk lol

        • Bobsyouruncle

          Loric76 Bobsyouruncle Black_Hawk Good point.  lol   Wacky talk on here today. Am I the only one who thinks Reimer for the 7th overall has a about as much chance of happening as me shitting diamonds?

        • Loric76

          Bobsyouruncle Loric76 Black_Hawk If you get that diamond shitting thing worked out, let me know.  A lot of folks would pay good money to see that.  We could probably outsell Panthers tickets lol

        • Black_Hawk

          Loric76 Bobsyouruncle Black_Hawk lol haahhaah

        • phaneufoundlander

          thats easy, all you have to do is swallow some…..so there’s a chance lol

    • Black_Hawk

      Bobsyouruncle thats not very nice

    • wiski

      Bobsyouruncle Dah 😉

  • Bobsyouruncle

    Fuck you guys are idiots!!!!  You’d trade Reimer to Edmonton for 7th overall when we could just trade him to Colorado for 1st overall?

  • Black_Hawk

    Yaknowwhat that is true and he has knee problems

  • Xxxxxnew

    Here’s the story that started all the Bernier-leafs stuff today
    http://www.csnphilly.com/hockey-philadelphia-flyers/sources-bernier-ante-raised-no-call-bryzgalov

  • Xxxxxnew

    Here’s the story that started all the Bernier-leafs stuff today
    http://www.csnphilly.com/hockey-philadelphia-flyers/sources-bernier-ante-raised-no-call-bryzgalov

  • rustynail

    https://twitter.com/TOTruculenthttps://twitter.com/TOTruculent/status/348179318616244224
    How about instead of re-hashing last summer’s Bernier debate, we just agree nothing exciting ever happens in Leaf offseasons and go boating.

    • Pent_House

      rustynail boating ?

      • JustYouW8

        Pent_House rustynail I’m about 10 blocks away from going boating down main street in Calgary..

    • wendelsfist

      rustynail If Reimer wins the Vezina the msm would complain that the the leafs need to a better goalie

      • Black_Hawk

        wendelsfist rustynail probably true

  • rustynail

    https://twitter.com/TOTruculenthttps://twitter.com/TOTruculent/status/348179318616244224
    How about instead of re-hashing last summer’s Bernier debate, we just agree nothing exciting ever happens in Leaf offseasons and go boating.

  • wiski

    https://twitter.com/abbeylinegoldhttps://twitter.com/abbeylinegold/status/348208268524535809
    Serious wardrobe malfunction. http://t.co/3RQnDD0B9C

    • Black_Hawk

      wiski lol haha

    • Loric76

      wiski lol

    • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ Radar O’Rielly

      wiski All this time I was using gerbils!

      • wiski

        Radar O’Rielly wiskihttps://twitter.com/abbeylinegoldhttps://twitter.com/abbeylinegold/status/348208874840530944
        Spot it? http://t.co/EcIwaCxM2H

        • Black_Hawk

          wiski Radar O’Rielly HAHAHAHA good shit

  • Black_Hawk

    PK says his bro Jordan has better potential and skill than himself. He is in our range for the draft. Should we take him based on the norris trophy winners comment? or do we have enough D? personally i would take him for sure if there isnt a center that falls to us like horvat, domi (actually might not be a center idk), or lazar

    • MaxwellHowe

      Black_Hawk Sure, sure.  I harken back to the early 80s, when Peter Stasney and his brother Anton were on a tear for the Nordiques – and they assured everyone their older brother Marian back in Czechoslovakia was the best player in the family.  So Quebec brought him over.  And Marion was garbage.  So naturally the Nordiques traded him to the Leafs

      • Black_Hawk

        MaxwellHowe Black_Hawk lol but thats just sibling respect for the older bro. Pk is complimenting his younger bro so maybe thats the difference lol.

    • Savo43

      Black_Hawk Haven’t seen Jordan in any of the top 30 rankings thus far. Would be a sick 2nd rounder though.

      • Black_Hawk

        Savo43 Black_Hawk for sure

  • wiski

    Goin for 9 go jays go

    • Black_Hawk

      wiski against who?

      • wiski

        Black_Hawk wiski Baltimore

        • Black_Hawk

          wiski Black_Hawk gonna be a tough one for sure. Davis is a beast right now for them.

        • wiski

          Black_Hawk wiski Next week is gonna be crucial rays and redsox

    • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ Radar O’Rielly

      wiski 2 run shot LIND!  Dude is on fire!

    • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ Radar O’Rielly

      wiski 2 run shot LIND!  Dude is on fire!

  • wiski

    https://twitter.com/JoshRimerHockeyhttps://twitter.com/JoshRimerHockey/status/348212353805979648
    This is so awesome!!! Kenichi Ebina Performs an Epic Matrix- Style Martial Arts Dance – America’s Got Talent http://t.co/3OSCQU3ZrZ

    • Black_Hawk

      wiski holy shit thats awesome

      • wiski

        Black_Hawk wiski Thats why I posted it 😉

      • wiski

        Black_Hawk wiski Thats why I posted it 😉

    • Black_Hawk

      wiski holy shit thats awesome

    • phaneufoundlander

      thats sick

  • whalz

    this format sucks,,,,,,,hard to keep track of convos
    should go back to old format where newer comments are at the top

    • wiski

      @whalz The boys are working on a custom system, at least it works unlike diqus

      • rustynail

        wiski I think they dropped that plan based on what Alec said last night

        • wiski

          rustynail I wasn’t around last night

        • Black_Hawk

          rustynail wiski what he say?

        • rustynail

          Black_Hawk rustynail wiski basically that we have too much traffic for a custom built system

        • Black_Hawk

          rustynail Black_Hawk wiski i see, did he say if we are gonna get our old posts back still?

        • Pent_House

          rustynail Black_Hawk wiski And too expensive.

        • rustynail

          Black_Hawk rustynail wiski never mentioned that part

        • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

          rustynail wiski 
          Yup…I got that impression as well (I think I drove the point home to Alec about my dislike for nested comments and I don’t think he was amused…lol).  I think we are stuck with nested comments for the forseeable future.  Sucks….but it’s better than no MLHS.

        • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

          rustynail wiski 
          Yup…I got that impression as well (I think I drove the point home to Alec about my dislike for nested comments and I don’t think he was amused…lol).  I think we are stuck with nested comments for the forseeable future.  Sucks….but it’s better than no MLHS.

  • Black_Hawk

    Yaknowwhat thats what we are gonna do during games

  • rustynail

    Yaknowwhat problem is nobody can follow any conversations that way

    • colino17

      rustynail Yaknowwhat I liked the old system where everything new was at the top but still referenced what it was replying too…This format works when you want to drop in and read whats new but is terrible for trying to follow ongoing conversations…too much scrolling

  • wiski

    Yaknowwhat good idea 😉

  • Savo43

    I wonder if Nonis is eyeing up the idea of Mike Richards at all when discussing Bernier.

  • Savo43

    LIND!!!

    • wiski

      Savo43 yes sir on fire

    • Black_Hawk

      Savo43 wow again? how many runs?

      • Savo43

        Black_Hawk Savo43 2 run homer! =)

        • Black_Hawk

          Savo43 Black_Hawk sweet

  • rustynail

    https://twitter.com/NYIslandershttps://twitter.com/NYIslanders/status/348211262896869376
    Interested in being part of the Islanders https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Icegirls&src=hash? Pre-audition session is Saturday, 1 p.m. at Islanders Iceworks. http://t.co/ndoLsO7H5h

    • mcloki

      rustynail Why did I immediately think Ribnecks. lol

  • Cameron19

    Just to take a break from the Bernier talk, and revisit something everyone was already sick of talking about, lol, I was just contemplating the potential big buyout deals again.  

    Rather than any of the big trades suggested so far, I was thinking that if I were Nonis I might handle that situation a bit differently.  Rather than trying to work out a specific figure with the Bolts or Islanders, why not just approach them with a short list of 2 or 3 players you’d like to acquire.  The big problem is, neither of them really have things they’d be willing to part with that will help us immediately.  So why not approach them with a list and say “listen, we’ll swap you buyouts if you go out and acquire us one of these players”.  I dunno who would be on that short-list.  Perhaps names like Chris Stewart, Keith Yandle, etc… 

    Either way,, it’s going to be expensive for those teams to find a deal, but it does give them some options.  They can try and wrangle someone free with future picks and prospects rather than having to cough up something immediate and huge that would potentially be viewed negatively by their fans.  For the Leafs, it removes the leg work.

    • Loric76

      Cameron19 have them get Bernier for us lol

    • Black_Hawk

      Cameron19 yeah the bernier talk is getting annoying

      • Pent_House

        Black_Hawk At least we don’t have to listen to DWC sing statistical love songs about Clark MacArthur

        • rustynail

          Pent_House Black_Hawk the night is young

        • Black_Hawk

          Pent_House Black_Hawk lol there is still time for that

        • Black_Hawk

          rustynail Pent_House Black_Hawk straight

      • Pent_House

        Black_Hawk At least we don’t have to listen to DWC sing statistical love songs about Clark MacArthur

      • Savo43

        Black_Hawk Cameron19 How about Mike Richards? =D

        • Black_Hawk

          Savo43 Black_Hawk Cameron19 would love Mike but gonna be very tough to get

        • Cameron19

          Savo43 Black_Hawk Cameron19 No thanks. Not the same Mike Richards these days.

          If I look at the Isles and think about what assets they’d reasonably be willing to part with, I see guys like Nino, Okposo, maybe this year’s 15th overall – nothing that really makes a 30 million dollar buyout worth it for us.  But go use those assets to get us a player we like, and that’s something we can sell.

        • Cameron19

          Savo43 Black_Hawk Cameron19 No thanks. Not the same Mike Richards these days.

          If I look at the Isles and think about what assets they’d reasonably be willing to part with, I see guys like Nino, Okposo, maybe this year’s 15th overall – nothing that really makes a 30 million dollar buyout worth it for us.  But go use those assets to get us a player we like, and that’s something we can sell.

        • Savo43

          Cameron19 Savo43 Black_Hawk So lets say we get Nino and the 15th for taking DP…if we package them with the 21st, and Kulemin…you think we get Letang, and is that enough of a return for you? If not where would you look?

        • Black_Hawk

          Cameron19 Savo43 Black_Hawk 16th pick

        • Black_Hawk

          Cameron19 Savo43 Black_Hawk nvr mind my mistake

        • Cameron19

          Savo43 Cameron19 Black_Hawk Sure, I just prefer to add forwards.

    • MaxwellHowe

      Cameron19 Listen, remaining Isles fans would have to be die hard loyalists.  If they are still with the Isles at this point, compliance trade buyouts won’t make a difference.  I think if there is a deal it will be for Leaf B players/prospects/picks for Isles A players prospects/picks – and Komisarek for Dipietro

  • Zep2

    Melky Cabrera , no steroids,  3 homers, Adam Lind 10 HOMERS.. You gotta wonder if Melky slipped Adam his leftover stash. LOL  Quite a turnaround.

    • Black_Hawk

      Zep2 lol

  • rustynail

    https://twitter.com/GrahamDeLaethttps://twitter.com/GrahamDeLaet/status/348203279001477121
    I will be donating $1000 for every birdie I make this weekend and $2500 for every eagle to support the relief efforts in Alberta. https://twitter.com/search?q=%23ABflood&src=hash

    • Zep2

      rustynail Rusty, can you tell me why Dalaet wasnt at the US Open

      • rustynail

        Zep2 rustynail no idea I don’t follow golf

  • rustynail

    https://twitter.com/TheStanchionhttps://twitter.com/TheStanchion/status/348216345701273600
    Saw this picture of AV and Torts at the airport. I looked closer and it seems quite petty of AV. https://twitter.com/search?q=%23ENHANCE&src=hash http://t.co/0Xdkp8UM2z

    • Black_Hawk

      rustynail lol hahaah

    • Dangle_My_Berries

      rustynail this is tooooo good trollololol

      • Sundin_13

        Dangle_My_Berries rustynail 
        LMAO

  • phaneufoundlander

    thats brillant….