Leafs Expected to Buyout Mike Komisarek

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To no one’s surprise, TSN is reporting that Mike Komisarek will be bought out once the compliance buyout window opens (48 hours after the end of the Stanley Cup Finals). Teams have two (total) compliance buyouts to use this off-season and/or next during the designated buyout periods.

It appears next year’s roster of the Toronto Maple Leafs will not include Mike Komisarek.

According to TSN Hockey Insider Darren Dreger, the Maple Leafs are expected to buy out the veteran defenceman.

Komisarek was signed as an unrestricted free agent in 2009, but only appeared in four games with the Maple Leafs this season.

According to capgeek.com, Komisarek has one year remaining on his five-year, $22.5 million contract, with a cap hit of $4.5 million.

 

Is this the best use of one of the two compliance buyouts available to the Leafs? Discuss.

  • Dangle_My_Berries

    this is the big news of the day

  • Dangle_My_Berries

    this is the big news of the day

  • Black_Hawk

    waste if you ask me

    • Maneet4

      Black_Hawk how is it a waste again? i think if we could have traded him in ANY package that Nonis would have done that by now, don’t you? We have compliance buyouts.

      • Cameron19

        Maneet4 Black_Hawk For the richest franchise in the sport to use a once in a hockey generation opportunity to buyout a guy owed a measly 3.5 million dollars is a total waste. This is a chance to use our considerable wealth.  If we blow it, it is a massive disservice to this fan base.

        • .JVR.

          Cameron19
          Still have a buyout left and who knows, maybe The Coun….. er Bettman notified all the GMs that trading for a playing the then using a compliance buyout on him would not be tolerated.

        • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

          Cameron19 Maneet4 Black_Hawk 
          Agreed.  However, I’m sure Nonis is exploring these avenues in taking on other teams mistakes in order to get top assets.  If no one is willing to part ways in such a fashion…then it is what it is.  Takes 2 to dance.

        • Cameron19

          .JVR. Cameron19 There’s nothing in the rules against it, so he really can’t say a damn thing.

        • Cameron19

          Bon Scott was a Leaf fan Cameron19 Maneet4 Black_Hawk True, but (a) I really doubt the owners of those two teams aren’t willing to part with assets to save themselves 24-30 million dollars, and (b) even if nothing materializes, we need to save a buyout for Grabovski.

        • .JVR.

          Cameron19
          Grabovski won’t be bought out

        • Xxxxxnew

          Can’t see why the league would care. Not a cap circumvention issue, which is what they don’t want.

        • djamon

          Cameron19 Agree 100%. Unless Nonis needs the money right now this is a foolish and short-sighted move.

        • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

          Cameron19 Bon Scott was a Leaf fan Maneet4 Black_Hawk 
          Personally, I think there could be something to the Tampa / Lecav rumors.  In essence, Vinny could be traded to Toronto, bought out, and re-sign in Tampa at a reduced rate…and not even take a step outside of Florida.  If there’s a buyout to be bought….I think it’s Tampa.

        • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

          Cameron19 Bon Scott was a Leaf fan Maneet4 Black_Hawk 
          Personally, I think there could be something to the Tampa / Lecav rumors.  In essence, Vinny could be traded to Toronto, bought out, and re-sign in Tampa at a reduced rate…and not even take a step outside of Florida.  If there’s a buyout to be bought….I think it’s Tampa.

        • Cameron19

          Bon Scott was a Leaf fan Cameron19 Maneet4 Black_Hawk I think there’s something to both situations. The Islanders have assets to dump, and Wang is cheap as fuck.

        • Maneet4

          Cameron19 Maneet4 Black_Hawk I don’t disagree with you but you not getting my point. What if this is the ONLY option we have available to us? Would you rather keep him for 1 year at $4.5 million or buy him out.  Again show me the evidence that Nonis is choosing to buy him out rather than making a better hockey decision?

  • Irishfanman

    A must do move with the cap coming down, waste or not.

  • Irishfanman

    Hopefully opens a spot for Ranger if he is willing.

    • Pent_House

      Irishfanman no thanks.

  • Dangle_My_Berries

    wonder if anyone else will extent a contract to komo after hes officially bought out

    • Xxxxxnew

      Might find a spot with a team playing the right system.

      • Dangle_My_Berries

        Xxxxxnew i even thought that in limited time with the Leafs this season he doesnt look too bad, but it was early in the season at that point

  • .JVR.

    Meh, I think we all knew this was coming.
    (now back to the Bernier talk, haha)

    • Dangle_My_Berries

      .JVR. i gotta say, im excited to see Reimer and Bernier battle for the net next season

  • Beleafer29

    Is this post really a shocker??  Too bad for Komi, I thought he would be a beast here.  Never really gelled under Wilson!  Most didn’t I guess!

  • GeorgeCastanza

    Komi is a Burke gaffe !!!!!!!!!!!!  NEVER should have picked this habs garbage.

  • ProfessorRance

    Is it a buyout or compliance buyout?

  • Cameron19

    I think it was Loiselle who said they were exploring the buyout trades, so hopefully Nonis has something on the burner.

  • Cameron19

    I think it was Loiselle who said they were exploring the buyout trades, so hopefully Nonis has something on the burner.

  • KurtWhite

    seems like a waste to use a free buyout on a 1 year contract

    • Xxxxxnew

      I agree. Take on a crappy contract for decent assets or picks in a trade and then use the buyout.

  • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

    Well, it’s been a slice…spending the majority of my sunday here at MLHS with a trade to dissect.  Let’s do it again sometime (soon….like next sunday).
    6am comes early…and mondays suck!!
    Peace out

    • Dangle_My_Berries

      Bon Scott was a Leaf fan cheers

  • Alec Brownscombe

    I think the Leafs will need that 4.5 million in space next season and will want to do right by Komisarek by setting him free. No problems with this. Think the buyout trade talk is likely just that – talk.

    • lukethenuke

      Alec Brownscombe habd sign him after for cheap hit? me thinks

      • Dangle_My_Berries

        lukethenuke Alec Brownscombe they would do something like that

      • Dangle_My_Berries

        lukethenuke Alec Brownscombe they would do something like that

      • .JVR.

        lukethenuke
        I could see the Flyers taking a chance on him.

        • Cameron19

          .JVR. lukethenuke My money is on Nashville or New Jersey.

        • Cameron19

          .JVR. lukethenuke My money is on Nashville or New Jersey.

    • Cameron19

      Alec Brownscombe You’re probably right, but man, that sucks…

    • Cameron19

      Alec Brownscombe You’re probably right, but man, that sucks…

  • Xxxxxnew

    Just looking at Vinny’s compliance buyout figures and it’s roughly $2.14 million a year until the end of 2026-27. So about $22 million dollars.
    I wonder how much they’re do two buyouts, and how much they’re willing to spend.

    • Cameron19

      Xxxxxnew That’s just the cap hit on the buyout, if there was one.  If he’s bought out, the actual dollars over that time will be 30 million.  He’s owed 45 million, and he gets 2/3rds of that.

      • Xxxxxnew

        Right, it is more. I was using the capgeek buyout app.
        So, my questions the same, do you think they’d allow a budget to do two expensive buyouts if the assets coming back were significant.

        • Cameron19

          Xxxxxnew Yes.  Because the money isn’t up front, it’s a small amount every year.  Consider that if there were no cap, we’d likely be spending more like 90 million per season by now. If ever MLSE feels they need to curb spending, they can just enforce an internal budget – but they won’t.  The Leafs are MLSE’s big money maker, and yet they constantly invest more in baseball and basketball.  This is their chance to actually spend in hockey…

        • Xxxxxnew

          Yeah, we were close to $70 million a season almost 9 years ago. It will be interesting to see what comes back this way for solving two franchises financial mistakes. There’s not much precedent for anything like this.

        • .JVR.

          Cameron19
          MLSE own a baseball team?

  • B_Leaf

    The more I think about this Bernier deal the more I don’t like it. I really think the Leafs have miscalculated the value of Frattin. I think the guy was a keeper. The thing with Bernier is that he is only a prospect. He is almost completely unproven at the NHL level…it is such a small sample size. He also played on a very good team. Whereas Reimer and Scrivens took a team in the gutter and pulled them out. I think the Kings were in a difficult position and the Leafs made it very easy on them. 
    As for buying out Komi, I would rather do Liles now and save one till next year. Komi has one year left.
    This team should have been kept together…at least one more year. I am not liking Nonis right now.

    • Xxxxxnew

      Frattin’s played 82 games and Bernier’s played 62. Pretty much at the same stage in their careers.

  • The_Duke

    remind me not go on PPP again they are horribly negative there about the trade and the leafs in general …bunch of whiners….Leafs win this trade hands down Bernier is going to steal us some games …Scrivens not likely
    Frattin will be replaced internally or on FA market …2nd rounder who cares at this point

    • .JVR.

      The_Duke 
      If the Leafs can sign Clarkson or maybe even Horton, then it’ll help ease the loss of Frattin, but we’ll still have a hole on the third line.

      • The_Duke

        .JVR. The_Duke 
        I like the kid but lets face it we need a spot for both Clarkson and Horton…so win win

        • .JVR.

          The_Duke
          Not gonna sign both and frankly, I’ll be happy with either of them.

        • .JVR.

          The_Duke
          Not gonna sign both and frankly, I’ll be happy with either of them.

    • wendelsfist

      The_Duke They are good for perspective though. But they have very defined opinions and its sometimes hard to look at the situation objectively.

  • The_Duke

    you got to give to get …Frattin might some day get 30 goals and he might get 10 – 15 a year…Bernier can become a solid number one …oh ya Komisarek is going to get bought out…zzzzzzzzzzz bring on the draft

    • .JVR.

      The_Duke 
      Yup, we won’t know who won this trade for quite a few years.

      • wendelsfist

        .JVR. The_Duke Leafs can’t really lose this trade.  They either win big or it will be a push.

      • The_Duke

        .JVR. The_Duke been checking out LA s response they seem content with what they got back on PPP you would think we traded away Kessel Phaneuf and Kadris to get Bernier
        solid young goalies with his pedigree dont grow on trees

        • wendelsfist

          The_Duke .JVR. There is a high chance the leafs will trade one of them in a few years for a bigger return then Bernier.

        • .JVR.

          The_Duke
          That’s not the point, we already had two solid young goalies in Reimer and Scrivens.
          As of right now, Scrivens and Bernier’s numbers in the AHL and NHL have been very similar, so i wasn’t really worth giving up Frattin and a 2nd to go from Scrivens to Bernier.

        • The_Duke

          .JVR. The_Duke you might be right but Nonis is rolling the dice the Hype on Bernier is gonna pan out …if Reimer gets hurt Bernier is a solid backup or vice versa …I like the solid 2 goalie thing as long as we can fit it under the cap

        • GeorgeCastanza

          .JVR. The_Duke Drew McIntyre made Scrivens expendable.

  • The_Duke

    you got to give to get …Frattin might some day get 30 goals and he might get 10 – 15 a year…Bernier can become a solid number one …oh ya Komisarek is going to get bought out…zzzzzzzzzzz bring on the draft

  • The_Duke

    win or lose its great to see Nonis active and beating out some GMs with a deal put together that might improve us and probably wont hurt us in the long run
    now what do we do with all this extra cash Komisarek is gonna save the team…..free beer at the games…half price tickets.

  • .JVR.

    As of right now, without our RFAs or UFAs resigned, here is what the team looks like:

    Lupul   –   Grabovski   –   Kessel
    JVR   –   Colborne   –   Kulemin
    Ross   –   McClement   –   Ashton
    D’Amigo   –   Acton   –   Orr

    Gardiner   –   Phaneuf
    Rielly   –   Komisarek
    Liles   –   Holzer

    Reimer
    MacIntyre

    • The_Duke

      .JVR. add in Clarkson and things dont look to bad….change is a good thing…Ross Ashton D’amigo and Colbourne are gonna be happy as pigs in shit with this deal me thinks …gives them a better chance of making it

      • .JVR.

        The_Duke
        I hope Clarkson is added, but he’s still New Jersey property, so he can’t be penciled in yet.

      • .JVR.

        The_Duke
        I hope Clarkson is added, but he’s still New Jersey property, so he can’t be penciled in yet.

  • The_Duke

    so who realistically do we draft now …a winger a d or another goalie ( that would make some people lose it on here and elsewhere )
    I’m hoping for a risk reward pick …would love Domi Jr but probably not gonna happen

    • wendelsfist

      The_Duke I hope we move up somehow.  A 21st pick will likely produce an NHLer player but he could be anywhere from 1st to 4th liner.

      • The_Duke

        wendelsfist The_Duke great draft this year so a late pick like ours in other years might be more of a top 10 …..so many good options this year in first round its gonna be a hell of a draft I think with some teams moving up to get a guy they really want….I want Domi big time
        think what Domi Sr would do if his son became a leaf he would probably die of a heart attack

        • wendelsfist

          The_Duke wendelsfist I read “some” scout say the top 10 is high quality and deep but beyond that it is similar to other years.

    • .JVR.

      The_Duke 
      They won’t draft by position, but rather take the best available player.

      • The_Duke

        .JVR. The_Duke who do you think we get I dont have  clue depends no who you read

        • .JVR.

          The_Duke
          I dunno, but I’m sort of hoping they draft a forward.
          Quite a bit of defensive depth, with the likes of Gardiner, Rielly, Percy, Finn, Blacker and Holzer coming up through the ranks.
          With Reimer and now Bernier and Sparks coming along, we should be set between the pipes for quite awhile now.

          I’m thinking Nonis will end up drafting one of Erne, Rychel, Gauthier or maybe Petan.
          Would love to get somebody like Domi, Hovart, Shinkaruk, Lazar or Mantha, but I think they’ll all be gone by the time the Leafs draft at 21st.

  • The_Duke

    so who realistically do we draft now …a winger a d or another goalie ( that would make some people lose it on here and elsewhere )
    I’m hoping for a risk reward pick …would love Domi Jr but probably not gonna happen

  • bb33tmlnhl

    I’d rather use a regular buyout on Komisarek and save the 2 compliance buyouts if we need it for Liles or Grabovski or someone else that we may actually need huge relief from. Komisarek only has 1 year left on his contract so it wouldn’t hurt us all that much.

    • wendelsfist

      bb33tmlnhl I’d try to trade him and keep half his salary if any cap floor team wants a 6/7 dman that is paid less then their cap.

      • .JVR.

        wendelsfist
        If the Leafs were to keep half his salary, that half would go against their salary cap, so how would that help the cap floor team get to the floor?

        Also, why keep half his cap hit ($2.25 million) when you can simply buy him out using a regular buyout and only have a third of his cap hit ($1.5 million) for each of the next two seasons?

        • bb33tmlnhl

          .JVR. wendelsfist Besides, if any team had the slightest interest in trading for him, he’d be gone by now.

        • bb33tmlnhl

          .JVR. wendelsfist Besides, if any team had the slightest interest in trading for him, he’d be gone by now.

        • wendelsfist

          .JVR. wendelsfist A cap floor team would pay him 1.8M and claim 2.3M in expense to save some money.  I don’t know if Komi’s play is worth it because a player like Koska or Fraser will get less then 1M.   But really I probably have misguided hope that Nonis will trade for a bad contract to buyout  with some nice assets

        • .JVR.

          wendelsfist
          It’d be nice if MLSE would flex their financial muscles and take on a big compliance buyout, but I just don’t see anybody giving up a good asset in order to rid themselves of an expensive contract.

        • Savo43

          .JVR. wendelsfist If Gillis didn’t have the biggest ego of all time…hmmmm.

        • Xxxxxnew

          Tampa’s owner might like to save $30 million right about now. He just folded one of his businesses.

  • The_Duke

    regardless of what happens I’m content with the trade be nice to see what Bernier can do in the blue and white
    and what the new potential leafs will do ( D’amigo Ross whoever ends up in Frattins spot )

  • The_Duke

    think its too late to get Raask back for Raycroft …boy hes a good one seen a lot of him this year hes turning into a hell of a goalie now that was a horrible trade in hindsight http://www.torontomike.com/2006/06/leafs_trade_rask_for_raycroft.html interesting take on that trade back then in 2006….wish we all had crystal balls

    • .JVR.

      The_Duke 
      Jeez, I forgot all about Tellqvist, haha!

      • The_Duke

        .JVR. The_Duke he sucked big time…where are they now

        • .JVR.

          The_Duke
          Haha, he was susposed to be the next great goalie in Toronto, much like Pogge. and I have no idea where either of them are now.

        • .JVR.

          The_Duke
          Haha, he was susposed to be the next great goalie in Toronto, much like Pogge. and I have no idea where either of them are now.

        • The_Duke

          .JVR. The_Duke not sure scouting in northern Alaska maybe …Tellqvist is probably back in the motherland …Sweden right Matsland

        • .JVR.

          The_Duke
          Mikael Tellqvist (born September 19, 1979 in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundbyberg_Municipality, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden) is a professional http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_peoplehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_hockeyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goaltender, currently playing for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinamo_Riga of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kontinental_Hockey_League.

        • Pent_House

          .JVR. The_Duke serious picture

        • bb33tmlnhl

          .JVR. The_Duke We got Tyson Nash and a 4th round pick for him when we traded him to the Coyotes… who did we draft with that 4th round pick? Matt Frattin.

        • .JVR.

          Pent_House
          Wow, I just copy and pasted the first line from his Wikipedia page, not sure why all the pictures came up, haha.

        • The_Duke

          .JVR. Pent_House awesome embedding there ….if thats Tellqvist even better

        • The_Duke

          .JVR. Pent_House I don’t remember the 12 players in the middle making the team …what position did the Nun play?

        • Pent_House

          The_Duke .JVR. Pent_House Back=up goalie of course, Curly two over was a 50 goal scorer power forward

      • wendelsfist

        .JVR. The_Duke If he drafted the other qvist goalie that went in the 7th round that same draft instead of Tellqvist.  I think the GMs got the scouts notes wrong

      • wendelsfist

        .JVR. The_Duke If he drafted the other qvist goalie that went in the 7th round that same draft instead of Tellqvist.  I think the GMs got the scouts notes wrong

    • .JVR.

      The_Duke 
      Jeez, I forgot all about Tellqvist, haha!

  • The_Duke

    John Ferguson traded the wrong goalie away, then dealt away a first-round pick later for Vesa Toskala. And the Leafs’ search for a No. 1 goaltender continues, six years after one of the worst — maybe the worst — trade in franchise history…….quote from unnamed writer back in march ….goalies can make ya pull your hair out I’m guessing as a GM

    • Pent_House

      The_Duke Great at drafting, terrible at making deals

      • The_Duke

        Pent_House The_Duke did he draft Raask he looks like a genius for that move…then a complete dolt for trading him away and keeping a clunker like Pogge

        • Pent_House

          The_Duke Pent_House Coming off Pogge’s WJC it wasn’t a terrible idea, but looking back it’s horrendous. The mistake was not keeping both and waiting to see how they developed.

        • Pent_House

          The_Duke Pent_House Coming off Pogge’s WJC it wasn’t a terrible idea, but looking back it’s horrendous. The mistake was not keeping both and waiting to see how they developed.

        • The_Duke

          Pent_House The_Duke how long can you wait when you are losing …he just shot himself in the foot on that one

        • The_Duke

          Pent_House The_Duke how long can you wait when you are losing …he just shot himself in the foot on that one

    • Xxxxxnew

      Ferguson thought Rask, who was still in Europe, was expendable because Pogge was coming off a sensational junior season and a world junior championship. Two years earlier Raycroft was NHL rookie of the year. Didn’t look as bad at the time. Then the Leafs Curse kicked in and Pogge and Raycroft turned out to be mirages.

  • The_Duke

    we had Potvin and Fuhr here at same time and we traded Fuhr and got us Andreychuk …so some quick math and Bernier or Reimer is traded and gets us a guy who can score 50 dirty goals a year for us …Brilliant I say Nonis

    • canuckintheuk

      The_Duke  You are correct.  A deal is based on it total parts – who you can also then deal etc and end product

  • Pent_House

    I saw this somewhere and it’s a good point, with the pads being shrunk it gives a little advantage back to the smaller goalies like Bernier.

    • Xxxxxnew

      If you look at Price the top of his pads come up almost to his waist.

  • Savo43

    JVR-Grabovski-Kessel
    Lupul-Kadri-Kulemin
    Leivo-Colborne-Biggs
    D’amigo-McClement-Orr
    McLaren

    Gunnarsson-Phaneuf
    Gardiner-Franson
    Fraser-Liles
    Blacker

    Reimer
    Bernier

    So this is our team right now. How scared would you guys be if we did NOTHING else? LOL.

    • Pent_House

      Savo43  I don’t think it would be Leivo and Biggs on the wings, but it’s not terrible.

    • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ LeoTheLion

      Savo43 What about Biggs and Leivo’s development suggest they are anywhere near ready to grab an NHL spot?

    • Dink

      canuckintheuk Savo43 I can’t see D’Amigo making team….Leivo? dunno…Biggs hard to say…

  • Great Dane

    The Bernier trade is that the first step in a larger Nonis/Leiweke plan??????

    • 4evrblue

      Great Dane yes

      • Great Dane

        4evrblue So what is the next step????
        I can’t help thinking that Phaneuf is on the move together with Grabo and Liles.
        But who would be the target to replace Phaneuf?

        • 4evrblue

          Great Dane 4evrblue Can’t answer that GD, it’s not my plan :)
          Im off to work. Have a good one MLHS

  • Burtonboy

    Leafs goalie James Reimer fired uphttp://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/Toronto/2013/06/23/20922716.html

    • Great Dane

      Burtonboy Back online BB – you had a busy weekend following the trade of Bernier

      • Burtonboy

        Great Dane Burtonboy I followed it mostly on twitter. It was impossible to keep up on livefyre. The nested comment system was never meant to handle that kind of traffic so I waited till things slowed down to come on here

        • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ LeoTheLion

          Burtonboy Great Dane I know no one ever wants to hear this, but Sports Illustrated and Time Magazine use Livefyre.. I think if their communities can use it tens of thousands at a time, it should be able to handle a few hundred on here.

        • Burtonboy

          @LeoTheLion Burtonboy Great Dane It was mass confusion for me . I know they get lots of posting on those site but doe they get it instantaneously like we do here .

        • Burtonboy

          @LeoTheLion Burtonboy Great Dane It was mass confusion for me . I know they get lots of posting on those site but doe they get it instantaneously like we do here .

        • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ LeoTheLion

          Burtonboy Great Dane Well it’s SI and Time.com.. so yah absolutely. I was following along a thread about the Aaron Hernandez debacle and there were 10,000 people listening and thousands posting.
          If you need to read every comment from every convo then I suppose it could be difficult at pts,
          no offense intended just letting you know it’s not just MLHS

        • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ LeoTheLion

          Burtonboy Great Dane Common gripe I see is that it can’t handle mlhs’ traffic but obviously these are massive comment platform companies that serve some of the biggest websites in the world

        • Burtonboy

          @LeoTheLion Burtonboy Great Dane If you know me you know I never complain about anything the boys do here at MLHS.I’m well aware the guys are doing the best they can and this is more a comment on livefryre itself. The twitter platform is far superior imo. I had trouble keeping up so in the future I will just wit till it slows down.

        • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ LeoTheLion

          Burtonboy Great Dane No worries, just proviiding some perspective.

        • Bobsyouruncle

          Burtonboy Great Dane I should have tried that. lol   To hard to comment and catch everything last night.

        • Bobsyouruncle

          @LeoTheLion Burtonboy Great Dane Doesn’t seem like the same thing. They could have a lot of articles but not a lot of comments in each one. I just looked at an article from 2 days ago – 10 comments, so of course that works. Looked at another from this morning about Edward Snowden and the NSA – 6 comments, 4 in the last 5 minutes. Not the same kind of traffic we get here a lot of the time.

    • Great Dane

      In your view that is the game plan for Nonis/Leiweke???

    • Great Dane

      In your view what is Nonis/Leiwekes gameplan

      • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ LeoTheLion

        Great Dane Nonis now aggressively pursues a No.1 center

        • Great Dane

          I believe so too. But who would that be.
          If Avs draft MacKinnon they defense is still very – so could they move Phaneuf for Duchene plus Johnson. 
          HAHA – Cam would go ballistic if that happened

        • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ LeoTheLion

          Great Dane Trading for Bernier does not mean the entire team is getting traded tomorrow.
          Everyone needs to chill with the domino theories.

  • Great Dane

    I have a feeling that Nonis/Leiweke believes that Rielly and Granberg will make the team in the autumn and now they have put thing in motion.
    Reimer/Bernier is probably one of the better tandems in the NHL, so now we can only await Nonis next move.

    • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ LeoTheLion

      Great Dane There’s no way they are banking on that. Rielly was hardly ready for AHL and Granberg has yet to play in NA.

      • Bobsyouruncle

        @LeoTheLion Great Dane Agree. Can’t see any Gm operating like that.

    • LeafsForLife

      Great Dane I dont see anything to support that Rielly and Granberg will make the Leafs team next year. Where did you get this information from?

      • Great Dane

        LeafsForLife Rielly might not – but I pretty sure after the WC that Granberg is expected to take a spot on the Leafs roster.

        • Burtonboy

          Great Dane LeafsForLife Both Reilly and Grandberg will get the opportunity in camp. If they play well enough they make the the team ,its as simple as that

        • mcloki

          No chance those 2 are ready. Pipe dream. Let them develop. One hasn’t even played on NHL ice.

        • Burtonboy

          mcloki I like how you say these guys have absolutely no chance lol. No one expected Gardiner to do what he did the 1st year he came to camp either  . I have no idea if either are ready but you never know what can happen .

        • mcloki

          Burtonboy mcloki Here’s my rationaaile. No Eakins to develop an AHLer. Granberg doesn’t know NHL ice. And most importantly. Carlyle likes big strong D. Holzer, Kostka, Frazer. And we have guys in the pipeline that would be ahead of Granberg and Reilly. Let the guys develop we’re in no rush.

        • Burtonboy

          mcloki Burtonboy Grandberg is a big strong d lol. I would bet he’s well aware of what he faces on the smaller ice as well. Reilly is a different type of dman altogether . I think its likely he goes back to Jr. but its not likely to help him much if he plays on a shit team like Moose Jaw again

        • mcloki

          Burtonboy mcloki Well they ned to move Reilly from Moose Jaw, totally agree. but a good year of Junior on a good team. would really help Reilly’s development. And Granberg needs a year on the NHL ice. It didn’t help Hedberg in TB. SO I;m pretty secure in my proclamation.

        • Burtonboy

          mcloki Burtonboy You may be right . Camp will tell all with both these players

  • Great Dane

    I have a feeling that Nonis/Leiweke believes that Rielly and Granberg will make the team in the autumn and now they have put thing in motion.
    Reimer/Bernier is probably one of the better tandems in the NHL, so now we can only await Nonis next move.

  • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ LeoTheLion

    In general I think most people need to calm down in reading so far into this Bernier thing so as to think the entire team is being torn apart. Relax.

  • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ LeoTheLion

    In general I think most people need to calm down in reading so far into this Bernier thing so as to think the entire team is being torn apart. Relax.

  • Burtonboy

    https://twitter.com/TSN1050Radio
    It is a Jonathan Bernier https://twitter.com/search?q=%23MapleLeafs&src=hash day on https://twitter.com/MikeRichardsTSN today – Dave Poulin https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Leafs&src=hash Vice-President of Hockey Operations 7:32 am ET

  • Dink

    Reillys season this year could mirror Gardiners of last year (not counting the injury of course).

  • mcloki

    Using the buyout on Komisarek is a waste. And shows terrible vision on the part of Leafs management. Trade the debt And get an asset for it. At least try.

    • Burtonboy

      mcloki I’m sure they have tried . They need the cap space and don’t be surprised if they buyout someone else yet

      • mcloki

        True. I dot know all their plans yet.

  • Armchair GM

    I’d like to see Nonis get Paul Stastny out of Colorado… I have no idea what it would take in terms of assets going the other way… Probably more now with Sakic in charge…

    • Burtonboy

      Armchair GM Getting Stastney depends entirely on whether they draft McKinnon or not I think . Seems Stastney is pretty tight with Sakic. One of the few Av’s players who attended the Roy press conference

      • Bobsyouruncle

        Burtonboy Armchair GM Question about the  livefyre “new comments”. Say you leave your computer, come back and there are 85 new comments. You click on one and it scrolls past some nests to the comment. (if you’re lucky) Now the new comments says 55, but there are only 10 new comments in that nest, leaving 20 somewhere in the nests it just scrolled over. I find I then have to go look for the other 20 comments manually if I want to read them. Does this happen to you or is there a better way for me to use this feature?

        • Burtonboy

          Bobsyouruncle Burtonboy Armchair GM Nope your dead on Bob. I have the same issue .

        • Bobsyouruncle

          Burtonboy Bobsyouruncle Armchair GM Thanks.

        • Burtonboy

          Bobsyouruncle Burtonboy Armchair GM I find twitter way better . They post every comment on top and have a little drop down feature to show the whole conversation. That said I understand the lads a re doing the best they can so I’ll just adapt to the system and use it the best I can.

        • Dink

          Burtonboy Bobsyouruncle Armchair GM  I have a smart tv with twitter on it….love that feature in times like this…

        • Dink

          Burtonboy Bobsyouruncle Armchair GM  I have a smart tv with twitter on it….love that feature in times like this…

        • Bobsyouruncle

          Burtonboy Bobsyouruncle Armchair GM For better or worse I’m trying to stay away from technologies like twitter. I might have to reassess this in the future if I want to have an f’in conversation.   lol

        • Burtonboy

          Bobsyouruncle Burtonboy Armchair GM Lol just do what I do . Wait for things to slow down. Twitter is deadly and you have complete control on who gets to comment in your time line

        • Dink

          Bobsyouruncle Burtonboy Armchair GM Lot of dumb asses on twitter too, got to pick your poison well on whats believable…

        • Bobsyouruncle

          @Dink Bobsyouruncle Burtonboy Armchair GM Thanks.

    • Dink

      Armchair GM Statsny makes a lot of dough

      • Burtonboy

        @Dink Armchair GM Only for this yr though . UFA next yr.

  • mapleleafmuse

    Good morning guys!

    • Burtonboy

      mapleleafmuse Morning Aaron

      • mcloki

        Morning.

      • mcloki

        Morning.

    • Burtonboy

      mapleleafmuse Morning Aaron

  • mapleleafmuse

    Was listening to Jonas Siegel this morning and couldn’t help but note that it sounded as is he had read mORRganRielly’s piece from yesterday.

    • Burtonboy

      mapleleafmuse mORRganRielly Are you buying into this tandem business ? I think only one of these goalies will be here in 2 yrs time.

      • Cameron19

        Burtonboy mapleleafmuse mORRganRielly I think they are a tandem for the foreseeable future. Unless someone really great wants to come back-up here in the next year or two, we’ll be pushing these two for a while, I think.

    • Burtonboy

      mapleleafmuse mORRganRielly Are you buying into this tandem business ? I think only one of these goalies will be here in 2 yrs time.

  • mapleleafmuse

    Was listening to Jonas Siegel this morning and couldn’t help but note that it sounded as is he had read mORRganRielly’s piece from yesterday.

  • Dink

    Nonis needs to do something, the board here is petering out…lol

  • Knights2Leafs

    On Komisarek, one would have thought that some team that can afford the cap hit might take him if the Leafs took on $1.6M in salary.   The team getting him gets him for $2M for a year, we don’t use a compliance buyout and our cap hit isn’t that badly affected this year.
    No doubt Nonis and crew are well ahead of me on this, so the fact that it hasn’t happened shows just how far Komi’s value has fallen.

    • Burtonboy

      Knights2Leafs I think they are after the cap space big time.

      • Knights2Leafs

        Burtonboy
        The Bernier trade certainly doesn’t help us in that regard so that my change the dynamics there.  Frattin was pretty cheap at under a million.   If MacA is gone, then we have to fill 3 spots with the loss of  Leo and Matt.  If we sign Clarkson, that will take some cash, and at least one of the other two spots should come from outside the organization.  Especially if Bozak’s gone and Colborne steps in.
        My mind is still to fried to consider all the permutations and combinations.

        • Dink

          Knights2Leafs Burtonboy this is probably why the Phaneuf stories have emerged because he makes so much money…

        • Burtonboy

          Knights2Leafs Burtonboy No way in telling yet until we see what shakes down here

        • Burtonboy

          Knights2Leafs Burtonboy No way in telling yet until we see what shakes down here

        • Knights2Leafs

          @Dink
          What? We’re moving Dion to give us cap room to sign Bozak?  I’m following Frattin to LA.

        • -Keon-

          Marlies
          Why are people forgetting about Marlies? There are players down there that are ready for their chance at the NHL.

        • Dink

          Knights2Leafs I hope Frattin scores 50 this year..(49 against the West teams tho)

        • Knights2Leafs

          -Keon- 
          No one’s forgetting the Marlies.  But if Bozak, MacA, Frattin and Leo are out, that’s a huge turnover for the top 9.  Do you believe that all of those spots can be filled by Marlies?
          Colborne is likely ready, D’Amigo is probably ready and Ashton is close to being ready.  That’s not even close to replacing the departing 4 players.

        • Cameron19

          Knights2Leafs -Keon- Not even considering the possibility that others could be involved in trades. Kulemin is often mentioned in that capacity.  Colborne would be a great chip.  Grabovski could be someone they look at trying to move because of cap purposes.

    • Dink

      Knights2Leafs No one will try to make a trade for him now if he is rumored to be bought out. Wait and try to get him after…

      • Dink

        Knights2Leafs He is officially now, a non-asset

      • Dink

        Knights2Leafs He is officially now, a non-asset

  • Cartsy

    Why waste a compliance buyout on komisarek with only one more season on his contract?

    • Mind Bomb

      Cartsy  You only reason is you Know you will probably need the Cap. Ysu would want to save it, so it suggests some others moves,

      • Burtonboy

        Mind Bomb Cartsy Its obvious they know they need the cap space they get from buying out Komi. Depending on what develops and who becomes available it wouldn’t surprise me if someone else is bought out too.

        • Mind Bomb

          Burtonboy Mind Bomb Cartsy  Maybe we are getting a Stastney BB :)

        • Burtonboy

          Mind Bomb Burtonboy Cartsy Who knows . Getting Stastney would likely require more cap space for sure

        • Dink

          Burtonboy Mind Bomb Cartsy would be someting if Colorado drafted McKinnon and signed free agent Bozak..something would have to give then…

        • Dink

          Burtonboy Mind Bomb Cartsy someting? I am all excited..

        • Mind Bomb

          @Dink Burtonboy Mind Bomb Cartsy  Its the Best reasonable scenario for the Leafs 1C

        • Burtonboy

          canuckintheuk Burtonboy Mind Bomb Cartsy How do you come to that figure when his cap hit is 4.5 million ? Not being saucy either , just curious.

        • mcloki

          Burtonboy canuckintheuk Mind Bomb Cartsy Isn’t the cap split over 2 years when we compliance buyout Komi?

        • Burtonboy

          mcloki Burtonboy canuckintheuk Mind Bomb Cartsy There is no cap hit on compliance buyouts

        • mcloki

          Burtonboy mcloki canuckintheuk Mind Bomb Cartsy Your’er right. Im thinking the payout is over twice the contract length.

  • Mind Bomb

    Good morning Folks, such a beautiful day today I the Leafs dont catch a Sun Bernier. P

    • mcloki

      Morning MB. That was terrible lol.

      • Mind Bomb

        mcloki Hhaha Vacation has inspired me :) Just watched the Wife and Daughter go off to work and school while I lounged here, they are pretty happy about it :)

    • mcloki

      Morning MB. That was terrible lol.

  • Zep2

    Burtonboy  BB, I agree with you, within 2 to 3 years, Riemer or Bernier will be moved .

    • Burtonboy

      Zep2 Burtonboy I’m trying to think if we have a successful tandem in the NHL right now

      • LeafsForLife

        Burtonboy Zep2 lol Schneider/Luongo

        • Burtonboy

          LeafsForLife Burtonboy Zep2 Hahaha was that very successful ?

      • Zep2

        Burtonboy Zep2 Halak / Elliot ?
        Problem with 1a / 1 b , eventually both want #1 wages.

        • Burtonboy

          Zep2 Burtonboy Yep ….. just look at Van and what they had to spend on those two.

      • Zep2

        Burtonboy Zep2 Halak / Elliot ?
        Problem with 1a / 1 b , eventually both want #1 wages.

  • mcloki

    I think the Dregger post about Komi’s buyout is just a warning flag to potential buyout trading partners that th Leafs do have the option of just buying out Komi themselves and letting you guys buy yourself out of a mess. Nonnis fully using the media to tell his trading partners to shit or get off the pot.