The off season is here

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Dave Nonis
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The off season has officially begun after a karmic conclusion to the Stanley Cup Finals last night (eat shit, Bruins). The compliance buyout period will begin Thursday followed by the draft on Sunday.

As we continued to digest the Bernier move yesterday, the Leafs qualified their new goaltender at a price of $1.525 million and will reportedly begin negotiations on a new contract later this week.

After the jump, let’s (roughly) project the Leafs cap situation headed into the 2013 off season.

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* = RFA after 2013-14 season; ** = UFA after 2013-14 season

  • This of course assumes neither MacArthur or Bozak are being re-signed. Also assumes fellow UFAs Ryan O’Byrne and Mike Kostka are walking as well.
  • Note that there’s only 10 forwards listed there, and only 6 defencemen when the team will carry 7.
  • Seems to me that using the other compliance buyout on Liles’ $3.9 million might be worthwhile, if he can’t be traded. The cap will begin to rise again in 2014-15, so why save one if we need the space now? I doubt Liles will serve as anything more than a 5th or 6th guy with Carlyle at the helm, and Franson and Gunnarsson are due up for raises on the back end. Cap space grows to nearly 12 million with Liles off the books.
  • I’m not advocating for the re-signing of McLaren with Orr already signed. Nonis said he wants there to be space for some Marlies to compete, so there isn’t a whole lot of sense in it. I figured I may as well plug him in as a placeholder, cap wise.

Onto the links…

 

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  • MaxwellHowe

    Prediction: Liles is going to the Islanders in return for Dipietro (buyout) and one of Strome, Hamonic, Okposo, Moulson or their first round pick.  If Nonis has the balls, he’ll throw in Reimer and take back even more.  Risky, but God hates a coward.

    • Great Dane

      MaxwellHowe Done – Strome and Reinhardt thank you

      • colino17

        Great Dane MaxwellHowe Strome/Reinhart/Dipietro + 1st + 2nd for Komi/Liles + Reimer +1st
        Vinny + 3rd overall for NYI 1st + 2nd

        • Great Dane

          colino17 Great Dane MaxwellHowe keep them coming

    • daniel marois

      MaxwellHowe 
      Well.  That is what I feel too.  But I think it is Luongo heading to NYI and Reimer won’t be part of the package.  But yea can see us swapping first rounders with NYI and they would give us another top prospect as part of the deal for taking Dipietro.

  • MaxwellHowe

    Great Dane That would take a lot of the fun out of the Leafs Sunshine state road trips.

    • Great Dane

      MaxwellHowe Great Dane Why half a Leafs team will be playing down there LOL

  • Burtonboy

    I’m expecting a big trade in the next 24-48 hrs. A little birdie told me so lol

    • Mitch_S2

      Burtonboy I’m thinking Duchene. I could see us moving a big winger for him.

      • Burtonboy

        Mitch_S2 Burtonboy A deal is coming with Edmonton ….. book it lol

        • Mitch_S2

          Burtonboy Mitch_S2 Gagner? no thanks…

        • Mitch_S2

          Burtonboy Mitch_S2 Gagner? no thanks…

        • http://twitter.com/jmckelvie RielledUp

          Burtonboy Mitch_S2 I say if there’s any trade between Toronto and Edmonton it will be the day of or the night before the draft.

        • http://twitter.com/jmckelvie RielledUp

          Burtonboy Mitch_S2 I say if there’s any trade between Toronto and Edmonton it will be the day of or the night before the draft.

        • Burtonboy

          Mitch_S2 Burtonboy I’m not thrilled with the thought either but I have a feeling its gonna happen

        • Burtonboy

          RielledUp Burtonboy Mitch_S2 Possible . MacT is having a pre- draft presser today . I might just listen to that one

        • Burtonboy

          RielledUp Burtonboy Mitch_S2 Possible . MacT is having a pre- draft presser today . I might just listen to that one

        • Mitch_S2

          Burtonboy Mitch_S2 Gagner is quite similar to Bozak. He has had one decent year after playing with Hall and Eberle both PPG players/ It would be a mistake to move anything of value for him. 
          I’d much prefer going after Colin Wilson.

        • Mitch_S2

          Burtonboy Mitch_S2 Gagner is quite similar to Bozak. He has had one decent year after playing with Hall and Eberle both PPG players/ It would be a mistake to move anything of value for him. 
          I’d much prefer going after Colin Wilson.

        • colino17

          Mitch_S2 Burtonboy interesting..big body and likely cheaper than Gagner

        • -Keon-

          He has more skill though.

        • Mitch_S2

          colino17 Mitch_S2 Burtonboy A very skilled guy too, doesn’t et the opportunity to do that under Trotz.

        • Mitch_S2

          colino17 Mitch_S2 Burtonboy A very skilled guy too, doesn’t et the opportunity to do that under Trotz.

        • colino17

          is he RFA too?

        • colino17

          is he RFA too?

        • daniel marois

          Mitch_S2 Burtonboy 
          Yeah and I think Gagner gets re-signed in Edm anyways. I think Nonis really wants a bonfide #1 centre.  Not one who projects to score 40-50 pts a season.

        • Mitch_S2

          colino17 not that i know of but there have been rumors of the leafs interest over the last few years.

        • colino17

          Mitch_S2 colino17 Maybe we can pick up Tom Wilson from WSH too and two big Wilsons on the same line =P

        • Knights2Leafs

          Mitch_S2
          Bozak has never reached 50 points in a season.  Gagner, despite starting as a 19 year old has scored at a 51 points per 82 games in his career.
          Bozak is slightly bigger and so far better on faceoffs.  Their skill sets are not comparable and Gagner is 3 years younger.

        • Knights2Leafs

          Mitch_S2
          Bozak has never reached 50 points in a season.  Gagner, despite starting as a 19 year old has scored at a 51 points per 82 games in his career.
          Bozak is slightly bigger and so far better on faceoffs.  Their skill sets are not comparable and Gagner is 3 years younger.

      • daniel marois

        Mitch_S2 Burtonboy 
        Would love Duchene but Roy mentioned McKinnon slotted as third liner next season if they take him.  That would mean Duchene on #1 and O”Reilly at #2.  Can’t see Statsny in that equation.  That’s why I doubt Duchene moving.

        • Mitch_S2

          daniel marois Mitch_S2 Burtonboy  Stastny is the most solid defensively out of al those guys and likely the cheapest to re-sign. Also you probably get the biggest return for Duchene, and that is totally necessary when you consider a team with four centers like that continually finishes in the bottom feeders.

  • happy_gilmour

    who are the league’s poorest teams? i think we should look there… i also still think somethibk will be up with edm as eakins will want to instill his system quickly anf some of the guys he liked (eg blacker, d’amigo) may not have huge upside but would fit in with their youth, work hard, etc….

  • happy_gilmour

    who are the league’s poorest teams? i think we should look there… i also still think somethibk will be up with edm as eakins will want to instill his system quickly anf some of the guys he liked (eg blacker, d’amigo) may not have huge upside but would fit in with their youth, work hard, etc….

  • colino17

    Just thinking that maybe NoNo kept the choice of which year the 2nd in the LA deal was so that he was flexible to offer/threaten an offer sheet…who is out there was solid RFAs…Pietrangelo?

  • Komas Taberle

    I am a firm believer in the IN OUT theory.
    In Nonis Our Ultimate Trust
    Go get ’em Davey boy!

    • colino17

      Komas Taberle clever

  • colino17

    Great Dane Maybe they will give us Aulie back too =P

  • Dink

    Please no math

    • colino17

      @Dink 1+1 = More than 1

      • Dink

        colino17 hahaha

      • Dink

        colino17 hahaha

  • daniel marois

    canuckintheuk -Keon- 
    Bernier somwhere around $2.9-3.2 mil a season

  • Dink

    I promised myself not to get excited this off season with possibilities of Nash, Richards and Kovalchuk available in the past to only get Kommiserek and Connelly …happens every year.

    • colino17

      @Dink With the cap going down and Richards sucking and Jersey being shit maybe we’ll sign those guys this year..GET YOUR HOPES UP…jk

      • Dink

        colino17 in hindsight glad we didn’t sign them, I guess

        ESPN takes the cake, Chicago wins cup and all they talk about is Football and Baseball

        • Loric76

          @Dink colino17 my drive in this morning had TSN talking about baseball and tennis.  Tennis!

        • colino17

          @Dink colino17 It must be so sad to be an American

  • daniel marois

    I just want Nonis to target young players with high elite potential in any trade.  Much like the Bernier deal.  And that goes for the #21 pick.  Choose the player with the highest offensive ceiling.  Not the safe projected third-line NHL player or 5-6 defenceman.

    • colino17

      daniel marois I would still love if Domi slipped to 21…if for nothing other than nostalgia

      • daniel marois

        colino17 daniel marois 
        That’s why I think a deal could be had for Dipietro and the #15 pick.  If Domi falls to #15 (he won’t to #21), I think the Leafs move up to that spot and offer cap relief for the Isles.

        • colino17

          daniel marois colino17 I can see him falling to 15 just because of his size

        • colino17

          daniel marois colino17 I can see him falling to 15 just because of his size

        • daniel marois

          colino17 daniel marois 
          Me too.  That’s why I hope does fall to #15 because I can see Nonis making a move up to get him provided he is still available at that spot.  He may be small but oozes elite skill.  Same reason I want Leafs to target Klimchuk at #21.

        • colino17

          daniel marois colino17 And size never hurt his dad much

        • daniel marois

          colino17 daniel marois 
          For sure.  And enough players in the NHL with a smaller frame and slick hands (see Pat Kane) have been able to play at an elite level.

      • Dink

        colino17 daniel marois  that would be ideal..but feared the Senaturds are gonna get him..

        • daniel marois

          @Dink colino17 daniel marois 
          Well, Sens pick #17 so TOronto could work out a deal with Isles and jump to @15.

      • Dink

        colino17 daniel marois  that would be ideal..but feared the Senaturds are gonna get him..

    • colino17

      daniel marois I would still love if Domi slipped to 21…if for nothing other than nostalgia

  • mcloki

    Good Morning Gents. What a wonderful way for the Finals to end. In front of a home audience no less. 
    Karma is a bitch.
    Now lets get the resignings and trade rumours started. Thursday Mornign should be filled with great possibility.

    • colino17

      mcloki Morning

  • Dink

    Looking at that list, it is gonna be hard NOT to trade Phaneuf…hang on everyone

    • colino17

      @Dink And our D next year will be brutal

      • daniel marois

        colino17 
        Not if Nonis has another player in play to acquire to fill the void from Phaneuf.

        • colino17

          daniel marois colino17 Yeah, but that will be hard to do…Phaneuf brings more to this team than most people give him credit for

        • daniel marois

          colino17 daniel marois 
          I agree.  But again, we don’t know who is going to be bought out or made available due to cap issues.  I mean, no one thought Phaneuf was coming to Toronto.  So let’s give Nonis faith and wait and see.

        • Loric76

          daniel marois colino17 Unless it’s a guy like Weber forget it.  Even if it is Weber, Phaneuf is cheaper.

        • colino17

          Loric76 daniel marois colino17 Yeah, in a cap world Phaneuf is a better option

        • daniel marois

          Loric76 daniel marois colino17 
          Well, if you feel Weber is the only type of player to replace Dion…then I guess he stays.  But I think Leafs will know whether they want Dion or not based on his contract demands.  Leafs will not give him $6.5 mil or more in his next contract.   Can’t justify that for a d-man who has yet to eclipse 20 goals in a season here.  That’s essentially why he was awarded that huge contract from Calgary….despite his other intangibles.

        • daniel marois

          Loric76 daniel marois colino17 
          Well, if you feel Weber is the only type of player to replace Dion…then I guess he stays.  But I think Leafs will know whether they want Dion or not based on his contract demands.  Leafs will not give him $6.5 mil or more in his next contract.   Can’t justify that for a d-man who has yet to eclipse 20 goals in a season here.  That’s essentially why he was awarded that huge contract from Calgary….despite his other intangibles.

        • colino17

          daniel marois Loric76 colino17 $6m even and I buy him dinner

        • daniel marois

          colino17 daniel marois Loric76 
          That’s IF Toronto is comfortable re-signing him at $6 mil a season.  If you read the tea leaves, it seems to me they are not.  Probably more inclined to overpay to keep Kessel than do for Phaneuf.  And Kessel has certainly justified that type of contract demnand.

        • colino17

          daniel marois colino17 Loric76 I think six is fair and shouldn’t be a problem

      • Dink

        colino17 Got to look at grand scheme, do you think he will stay after this year? If he walks won’t get anything for him?

        • KingTon

          @Dink colino17 Why does everyone just assume all our players will just walk.  I don’t get it.

        • colino17

          @Dink colino17 I think you do everything you can to lock him up now and if it hits a wall you trade him in August

        • colino17

          colino17 No rush to make a move right now..not unless its a huge overpayment

        • Dink

          colino17 It is a tough situation is all I am saying

        • Dink

          colino17 It is a tough situation is all I am saying

        • colino17

          @Dink colino17 I agree

        • Dink

          KingTon colino17 Remember Kessel will be UFA too

        • colino17

          @Dink KingTon colino17 Fuck, Dion already gets to go to bed with Elisha Cuthbert every night..what more does he want

  • Dink

    Looking at that list, it is gonna be hard NOT to trade Phaneuf…hang on everyone

  • mcloki

    Where are all the regulars? Sleeping?

    • colino17

      mcloki Resting up for when the buyout window opens

      • mcloki

        colino17 mcloki Seems like it. Or just reading a ton of articles.

      • mcloki

        colino17 mcloki Seems like it. Or just reading a ton of articles.

  • Burtonboy

    https://twitter.com/BonsieTweets
    Get ready for a wild week of off ice activity. Nonis will be busy. https://twitter.com/search?q=%23tmltalk&src=hashhttps://twitter.com/search?q=%23tmltalk&src=hash
    “HOLEY MACKINAW “

    • mcloki

      Burtonboy Should have been doing the finals. That last minutes would have been Cardiac Arrest for Bowen.

      • Burtonboy

        mcloki Burtonboy Don’t think Joe would make it through a final with the Leafs in it lol

        • Dink

          Burtonboy mcloki lol nor I

        • Dink

          Burtonboy mcloki lol nor I

        • mcloki

          Burtonboy mcloki But it would be the greatest call ever.

        • mcloki

          Burtonboy mcloki But it would be the greatest call ever.

    • daniel marois

      Burtonboy 
      That’s an understatement.  I think even he knows that movement is gonna happen in Leafsland this week.

      • Burtonboy

        daniel marois Burtonboy Joe is around team executives all the time. I would say he hears stuff

      • Burtonboy

        daniel marois Burtonboy Joe is around team executives all the time. I would say he hears stuff

        • daniel marois

          Burtonboy daniel marois 
          Yup.  He is no insider…but no slouch for ongoings with Leafs news.  I think Nonis is targeting young elite players from other teams and will kick tires all the way to Sunday during the draft.  That is essentially what they have done by trading for JVR and Bernier.

        • colino17

          daniel marois Burtonboy Now watch nothing happen except signing someone like Weiss

        • Burtonboy

          colino17 daniel marois Burtonboy Hahahaha could very well be .

        • daniel marois

          colino17 daniel marois Burtonboy 
          Nah.  Aside from pursuing Weiss and signing Clarkson (which I anticipate will happen), I think a trade or two will be made ahead of Sunday or on Sunday.  Don’t worry, you won’t be disappointed!!

        • Burtonboy

          daniel marois Burtonboy I agree . You won’t see many vets coming on board …if any

        • daniel marois

          Burtonboy daniel marois 
          Yup.  Right now, Lupul is the oldest vet on the team and Clarkson is right at the same age.  No over 30-somethings will be coming on this team.  Oilers proved you just can’t have young talent under 25 and compete.  You need some solid vets to round out the roster.

        • daniel marois

          Burtonboy daniel marois 
          Yup.  Right now, Lupul is the oldest vet on the team and Clarkson is right at the same age.  No over 30-somethings will be coming on this team.  Oilers proved you just can’t have young talent under 25 and compete.  You need some solid vets to round out the roster.

        • Komas Taberle

          daniel marois Burtonboy Liles is the oldest, but maybe after this week you will be right.

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      Burtonboy so is he hinting there a deal comin with the wild ? or the wild part being phaneuf ??? hmmmmm

      • colino17

        unclejakescards Burtonboy Granlund, Coyle, Clutterbuck, Dumba, and Phillips, for Phaneuf and 1st

        • colino17

          unclejakescards Burtonboy teehee

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      Burtonboy so is he hinting there a deal comin with the wild ? or the wild part being phaneuf ??? hmmmmm

  • Burtonboy

    https://twitter.com/BonsieTweets
    Get ready for a wild week of off ice activity. Nonis will be busy. https://twitter.com/search?q=%23tmltalk&src=hashhttps://twitter.com/search?q=%23tmltalk&src=hash
    “HOLEY MACKINAW “

  • Burtonboy

    https://twitter.com/BonsieTweets
    Get ready for a wild week of off ice activity. Nonis will be busy. https://twitter.com/search?q=%23tmltalk&src=hashhttps://twitter.com/search?q=%23tmltalk&src=hash
    “HOLEY MACKINAW “

  • B_Leaf

    Thanks for the summary Alec.

  • Dink

    Been getting a free preview of NHL Network for about a week, you watch the bastards shut down before the draft…grr

    • colino17

      @Dink I’ve been getting TSN HD for free since the second last week of the regular season…really thought they were going to shut it off before the playoffs but its still going

      • Dink

        colino17 nice

    • daniel marois

      @Dink 
      Well the entire draft will air on TSN and not split with NHL Network.  So don’t worry 😉

      • Dink

        daniel marois I can’t get TSN in States

      • Dink

        daniel marois I can’t get TSN in States

        • mcloki

          @Dink daniel marois I think TSN, they’ll stream it on the internet. I’m sure there will be links posted Sunday afternoon here on the site.

        • mcloki

          @Dink daniel marois I think TSN, they’ll stream it on the internet. I’m sure there will be links posted Sunday afternoon here on the site.

        • daniel marois

          @Dink daniel marois 
          Srry.  Didn’t know you are in the States. And Yes, TSN will stream it.  Just hope no geo block.

        • Dink

          mcloki daniel marois I wish but I get not available in your area from TSN

        • mcloki

          @Dink mcloki daniel marois It’s geo blocked. I';m sure we’ll have fixes for that as well.

        • mcloki

          @Dink mcloki daniel marois It’s geo blocked. I';m sure we’ll have fixes for that as well.

        • Dink

          mcloki daniel marois be nice or I am gonna have to watch Sportsnet …grr

        • daniel marois

          @Dink mcloki daniel marois 
          Gawd.  Sportsnet’s NHL draft coverage is AWFUL every yr.  Geez, you don’t air the draft so why bother covering it as if you are airing it.  Their main hockey panel sux.

        • daniel marois

          @Dink mcloki daniel marois 
          Gawd.  Sportsnet’s NHL draft coverage is AWFUL every yr.  Geez, you don’t air the draft so why bother covering it as if you are airing it.  Their main hockey panel sux.

        • daniel marois

          @Dink mcloki daniel marois 
          Gawd.  Sportsnet’s NHL draft coverage is AWFUL every yr.  Geez, you don’t air the draft so why bother covering it as if you are airing it.  Their main hockey panel sux.

  • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

    happy karma day everyone , i feel better now ……

  • peterbleafs

    Pretty easy to bring in Blacker, Ashton and D’Amigo as examples to round out the roster for a total cap hit of just another $3million.  So we are in good shape just promoting our AHL guys.  Our core is intact.

    • Dink

      peterbleafs I don’t get all this D’Amigo talk

      • peterbleafs

        @Dink peterbleafs Just named him as an example, a role player for the 4th line.  Could be any one of 50 players who would be available that cheap.

      • peterbleafs

        @Dink peterbleafs Just named him as an example, a role player for the 4th line.  Could be any one of 50 players who would be available that cheap.

        • Dink

          peterbleafs ok

        • Dink

          peterbleafs ok

      • B_Leaf

        @Dink peterbleafs 
        D’Amigo is a very legit fourth liner who brings tremendous energy and work ethic every game. He can chip the odd goal in too. Most important he is an exceptional penalty killer. While a little different he helps replace Komarov.

        • Dink

          B_Leaf peterbleafs well hope so, just never impressed me

        • Loric76

          @Dink B_Leaf peterbleafs he’s our next Mike Brown except replace fighting with better defensive play

      • B_Leaf

        @Dink peterbleafs 
        A little background on D’Amigo…Redline Report (a highly recomended draft committee) had D’Amigo slotted to go in the first round late or early second round. He was one of those guys who sat until the last couple rounds and Burke took him, same year as Kadri. Well D’Amigo has progressed well at every level. He is huge into training. If you’re looking for an affordable piece who can step onto your roster and bring energy and PK help…this is about as good as it gets.

        • peterbleafs

          B_Leaf peterbleafs And he killed Canada by himself at the World Juniors.

        • colino17

          B_Leaf peterbleafs How did he slip that far on a first round projection

        • Greg Fenton

          colino17 B_Leaf peterbleafs because he wasn’t projected to go in thte first round. 
          http://www.mynhldraft.com/2009-NHL-Mock-Draft/
          http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=11908
          http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=32384
          If you want more, just google 2009 NHL mock draft

        • colino17

          Greg Fenton colino17 B_Leaf peterbleafs I was just going by what B Leaf said

        • Greg Fenton

          colino17 Greg Fenton B_Leaf peterbleafs I’m not trying to come down on you another, just saying. 
          D’Amigo was not a first round prospect who feel. He was a depth prospects who no one paid any attention too until the WJC, then everyone started overrating him.

        • Greg Fenton

          colino17 Greg Fenton B_Leaf peterbleafs I’m not trying to come down on you another, just saying. 
          D’Amigo was not a first round prospect who feel. He was a depth prospects who no one paid any attention too until the WJC, then everyone started overrating him.

        • colino17

          Greg Fenton colino17 B_Leaf peterbleafs That’s what I was thinking too…he broke out for USA one year and we thought we had a rising star

    • Dink

      peterbleafs I don’t get all this D’Amigo talk

  • daniel marois

    Yup.  I see at least 4-5 Marlies graduating to the big club permanently.  And yes, that will save in cap space.  More reason to draft and save those picks.  Look at Chi roster.  Good example of it.

  • daniel marois

    Yup.  I see at least 4-5 Marlies graduating to the big club permanently.  And yes, that will save in cap space.  More reason to draft and save those picks.  Look at Chi roster.  Good example of it.

  • daniel marois

    Yup.  I see at least 4-5 Marlies graduating to the big club permanently.  And yes, that will save in cap space.  More reason to draft and save those picks.  Look at Chi roster.  Good example of it.

  • daniel marois

    Yup.  I see at least 4-5 Marlies graduating to the big club permanently.  And yes, that will save in cap space.  More reason to draft and save those picks.  Look at Chi roster.  Good example of it.

    • daniel marois

      canuckintheuk daniel marois 
      Exactly.

    • daniel marois

      canuckintheuk daniel marois 
      Exactly.

    • Dink

      canuckintheuk daniel marois lol remember this if they trade Phaneuf

      • colino17

        canuckintheuk daniel marois Easier said than done…this isn’t NHL 13

    • Dink

      canuckintheuk daniel marois lol remember this if they trade Phaneuf

  • MLHS_Luke

    Are these rumours substantiated in any way or are we just hoping that ‘something will happen’?

    • daniel marois

      MLHS_Luke 
      Hoping…but the Phaneuf rumours have some legs.  May not happen in the end but his name is being bandied about.

    • daniel marois

      MLHS_Luke 
      Hoping…but the Phaneuf rumours have some legs.  May not happen in the end but his name is being bandied about.

      • MLHS_Luke

        daniel marois MLHS_Luke …and who exactly would we replace Phaneuf with?  Ugh..

        • daniel marois

          MLHS_Luke daniel marois 
          I have no idea.  That is Nonis’ job.  I am sure he is looking at a player that is either in a tight cap squeeze on a team or a player that becomes available via compliance buyout.

      • MLHS_Luke

        daniel marois MLHS_Luke …and who exactly would we replace Phaneuf with?  Ugh..

    • Loric76

      MLHS_Luke it’s all nonsense

      • Loric76

        MLHS_Luke the Phaneuf stuff I mean

        • MaxwellHowe

          Loric76 MLHS_Luke Similar reactions followed word of the Bernier rumors

        • Loric76

          MaxwellHowe Loric76 MLHS_Lukeas did the rumors of trading for Nash, Luongo, signing Richards, etc etc etc.  The one that comes true doesn’t validate the other 999 false ones

        • colino17

          Loric76 MaxwellHowe MLHS_Luke Those trades are going down next week =D

  • B_Leaf

    Anyone think we have a chance to sign both Bickell and Clarkson…both are Toronto boys…both bring heart and physicality and strong play on the wall. It will take our cap up to the limit but the potential….mmm.
    UFA’s are often a bust but I think these two are pretty good bets for the Leafs. Only problem is it leaves little room for Bozak which could hurt us unless something else is in the works.

    • colino17

      B_Leaf I don’t think Bickell is leaving Chi-Town

      • daniel marois

        colino17 B_Leaf 
        Bickell did mention last night his fav player growing up was Wendel Clark.  So he is a Leafs fan!!

        • Dink

          daniel marois colino17 B_Leaf  Big Money fan first I am sure

        • B_Leaf

          @Dink daniel marois colino17 B_Leaf 
          I would love Bickell in our top six, or top nine. Perfect linemate to Kessel in some situations.

        • B_Leaf

          daniel marois colino17 B_Leaf 
          Anyone want to wager what it would take to get Bickell??

        • B_Leaf

          daniel marois colino17 B_Leaf 
          Anyone want to wager what it would take to get Bickell??

        • colino17

          B_Leaf daniel marois colino17 too much

        • colino17

          B_Leaf daniel marois colino17 too much

    • flappypaddle

      Not signing bozak would be awesome actual Colbournes ready for the 3 hole that leaves us as
      Kadri
      Grabo
      Colb
      Mclemnt
      Pretty decen if Grabo can find some magic again.

      • Bobsyouruncle

        flappypaddle Not signing Bozak would put this franchise ahead 5 years.   lol

      • Bobsyouruncle

        flappypaddle Not resigning Phaneuf could put us back a few years. Not resigning Bozak would put this franchise ahead 5 years.   lol

  • LeafsForLife

    I missed what the rumors are about Phaneuf  being traded. Anyone have a link for it please? Or is it just speculation on MLHS?

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      LeafsForLife
      https://twitter.com/DarrenDregerhttps://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/348870540003528704
      Some rumblings Phaneuf may be in play. Nonis says he will trade just about anyone, but says no one has called on the captain…yet. https://twitter.com/search?q=%23TSN&src=hash

      • Loric76

        unclejakescards LeafsForLife which he then followed up on TV by saying something along the lines of “just because anyone can be traded doesn’t mean it’s likely” and added Kessel and Lupul to the list of “anyones”.  It’s all bullshit.

      • LeafsForLife

        unclejakescards LeafsForLife Ok ty. I cant see the Leafs moving him without a new #1 D being on the team.

        • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

          LeafsForLife unclejakescards i dont see it either , thats what started the talk i believe ….

        • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

          LeafsForLife unclejakescards i dont see it either , thats what started the talk i believe ….

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      LeafsForLife
      https://twitter.com/DarrenDregerhttps://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/348870540003528704
      Some rumblings Phaneuf may be in play. Nonis says he will trade just about anyone, but says no one has called on the captain…yet. https://twitter.com/search?q=%23TSN&src=hash

  • LeafsForLife

    I missed what the rumors are about Phaneuf  being traded. Anyone have a link for it please? Or is it just speculation on MLHS?

  • Bobsyouruncle

    June 30, 2013. NHL Draft. Newwark, NJ.   
    “Thanks Gary and thanks to the people of Newark for all the hospitality. Congratulations to the Chicago  Blackhawks on their Stanley Cup win. Suck it Bruins…. As the Draft Lottery Winner and holder of the 1st pick in the 2013 NHL Draft, the Colorado Avalanche announce that we will not make a choice until one of you fuckers offers us a god damn deal we like. And once and for all, piss off Mike, Luongo and a 5th is not going to get it done.”

  • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

    does anyone think there could be a deal surrounding phaneuf for the 1st overall from colorado ???? then the vinny deal for the 3rd overall . leafs take great nate 1st and seth 3rd ??? would be steal of a lifetime …….

    • rustynail

      unclejakescards whjy the hell would the Avs trade the 1st overall in this draft for a pending UFA?

      • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

        rustynail unclejakescards i dont know … lolol maybe there dumb ? maybe they want to spend now, and try to win now ??? i said surrounding , so it would be phaneuf plus ……..

    • colino17

      unclejakescards Seth isn’t making it to third methinks

      • rustynail

        colino17 unclejakescards he might go 4th :)

  • Dink

    How many more years we gotta pay Tucker? ffs

    • rustynail

      @Dink this is it for him and Armstrong

      • Dink

        rustynail thers 2 million right there to give to Kessel then

        • rustynail

          @Dink rustynail or Dion :)

        • Dink

          rustynail lol

        • Dink

          rustynail lol

        • colino17

          rustynail a mil each

        • colino17

          rustynail a mil each

  • rustynail

    https://twitter.com/Aportzlinehttps://twitter.com/Aportzline/status/349509613357502467
    Really, the Devils’ belief that https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NHL&src=hash might let them off the hook is the only way to justify not giving up No. 29 pick in weak 2012 draft.

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      rustynail ohhh, do they have to give up tis years 1st ???

      • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

        -Keon- that sucks ….

  • rustynail

    https://twitter.com/DownGoesBrownhttps://twitter.com/DownGoesBrown/status/349513905049055233
    Crazy: In addition to two rings, Quenneville will probably be NHL’s third winningest coach by the end of next year: http://t.co/p9RLmqTzGh

  • Knights2Leafs

    Bobsyouruncle 
    Morning Bob!  You must be tickled pink that the Conn Smythe winner was Patrick Kane and the Cup winning goal was scored by David Bolland

    • rustynail

      Knights2Leafs Bobsyouruncle I know I am. :)

      • Knights2Leafs

        rustynail Knights2Leafs Bobsyouruncle 
        Likewise : )
        And rumours of Gagner coming to TO.

        • rustynail

          Knights2Leafs rustynail Bobsyouruncle next year those two names will  be Kadri and Gagner :)

        • Burtonboy

          rustynail Knights2Leafs Bobsyouruncle Lol knights fans being knights fans . Enjoy the moment you guys

    • Bobsyouruncle

      Knights2Leafs Bobsyouruncle Don’t mind at all. Wanted Chicago to win. Figure it’s not the team or the players that rub me the wrong way, but the booster club. Guess I just read “#itsourtime” once too often, like it was some inevitable preordained ending that they would win the Memorial Cup. It’s your time when you’ve done the deed. Not before.

  • daniel marois

    Look.  Please.  Stop with the Col #1 pick rumours.  Not going to Tor if indeed it’s moving.

    • colino17

      daniel marois Where does CGY pick…they are known to give us good things for additional bad things

    • colino17

      daniel marois Where does CGY pick…they are known to give us good things for additional bad things

  • daniel marois

    Personally.  I think the Leafs will move up in the draft.  I know Nonis said it would not be just to move up a couple spots.  But if the player they thought in the top-10 is still there at say #15, I think they do it.

  • rustynail

    https://twitter.com/mapleleafmusehttps://twitter.com/mapleleafmuse/status/349514872318472192
    With that, HUGE Thx to https://twitter.com/NHLBlackhawks for saving humanity from having to witness another summer of Marchand and Seguin acting like douches.

  • rustynail

    So after Dion is moved who is our #1 D?

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      rustynail weber

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      rustynail weber

      • rustynail

        unclejakescards rustynail LMAO expensive 1/2 season for Nashville

        • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

          rustynail unclejakescards hay, i say there is a chance nashville starts over and trades weber next month when the window opens …………. maybe nonis already knows ???? hahahahaha

        • rustynail

          unclejakescards rustynail more than 500K per game for Weber as a Pred if that happened

        • rustynail

          unclejakescards rustynail more than 500K per game for Weber as a Pred if that happened

        • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

          rustynail unclejakescards but isint his term go til hes 40 ??? thats alot of savings there ….

    • daniel marois

      rustynail 
      That is the $6.5 Million dollar question!!! LOL

    • DWCMLHS

      rustynail Dion isn’t going anywhere. If he does, we may as well hibernate for 5 years until the Leafs aren’t a lotto pick team anymore. Gunnarsson would be our #1 Dman by default. I like Gunnar, but yikes.

      • rustynail

        DWCMLHS rustynail I knew that would attract you if you were lurking :)

    • colino17

      rustynail Tomas Kaberle

    • Greg Fenton

      rustynail assuming they don’t add anyone, probably Franson with an eye on Gardiner taking the spot in a year or two. 
      But really, they go from not having a #1 D to not having a #1 D.

  • Beleafer29

    Can Dion’s contract be restructured like in the NFL?

    • colino17

      Beleafer29 Nope

      • Beleafer29

        Dammit! Bye MacA, Bozak and Grabo! After sleeping on it, we can’t lose Dion right now. He is one of our core guys. Who will come in and play the minutes and special teams.

        • daniel marois

          Beleafer29 
          We just bring in a new core d-man.  Who it is.  No idea. But have faith in Nonis.

        • colino17

          Beleafer29 An upgrade is very unlikely so the best move is likely to hold onto him…at least until late summer..if it is clear at that point that he won’t resign then MAYBE he moves

        • Beleafer29

          Less than 6 per year??

        • Beleafer29

          Move him at trade deadline………might get more or not?

        • colino17

          Beleafer29 hard to tell

        • colino17

          Beleafer29 6 even is likely fair…even 6.5 where he is now…especially since the cap should go up before it kicks in

        • colino17

          Beleafer29 6 even is likely fair…even 6.5 where he is now…especially since the cap should go up before it kicks in

        • Beleafer29

          We have had worse contracts to worry about! I personally think Dion is good for our young D-men.

        • newkb

          A core d-man…..At cheaper than Dion? I’m all ears….

        • colino17

          Beleafer29 and 6.5 doesn’t increase our cap any

        • Beleafer29

          I would take Dion over Suter. Suter is a pussy, over-rated IMO!

        • colino17

          newkb only ones would be someone young…and in a few years they would likely be a) not near as good as Dion or b) more exensive

        • colino17

          newkb only ones would be someone young…and in a few years they would likely be a) not near as good as Dion or b) more exensive

        • mcloki

          colino17 Beleafer29 exactly at the trade deadline.

        • rustynail

          Beleafer29 you are closer to where he plays that I am for sure so I take your word for it

        • Beleafer29

          So why is Dion even in rumors if 6.5 is legit?

        • rustynail

          Beleafer29 we aren;t the GM’s or the press? :)

        • rustynail

          Beleafer29 we aren;t the GM’s or the press? :)

        • colino17

          Beleafer29 not sure..unless he wants a big raise or just wants out…or Dreger just wants some press (but Bobby Mac and Kypper have been saying the same things)

        • Beleafer29

          Yes I know TSN is stirring up shit, but I think replacing Dion now is a step back in this teams building on its playoff shot,

        • colino17

          Beleafer29 definitely

        • daniel marois

          Beleafer29 
          Sometimes you need to step back a step before making huge strides going forward.  If the return on Dion justifies that, I am all for it.  We all want instant gratification with this team.  Just not realistic.

        • Beleafer29

          Dion needs to work on his shot, hit more, and play nastier, that C is holding him back. Give Loops the C, and unleash the Beast already.

        • mcloki

          daniel marois Beleafer29 What return for Dion could justify it. JUst start laying out those scenarios and you see this is just Draft week UFA bullshit to keep a Leaf in the mix. Otherwise there would be nothing to talk about. Don’t fall for their bullshit.

        • colino17

          mcloki daniel marois Beleafer29 Only a major overpayment justifies it

        • colino17

          mcloki daniel marois Beleafer29 and that isnt happening

        • colino17

          mcloki daniel marois Beleafer29 and that isnt happening

        • Beleafer29

          Agree on all

        • TheHawk

          Beleafer29 i think the only teams what would have the motivation to overpay for a big name D would be Philly and Edmonton… and I’m not sure either of those teams are good trade partners for us

  • Burtonboy

    https://twitter.com/nielson1260
    On the show this morning Dreger told us that MacTavish could end up being the most active GM in the next few days. Buckle up folks

    • rustynail

      Burtonboy IF lowe is still calling the shots behind the scenes that could be fun to watch

      • Burtonboy

        rustynail Burtonboy Man they are likely to do anything lol

    • rustynail

      Burtonboy IF lowe is still calling the shots behind the scenes that could be fun to watch

    • daniel marois

      Burtonboy 
      Like to think Nonis will be in on talks with MacTAvish.  Whether getting one of their young wingers (MPS or Omark) or perhaps their second rounder.  Can’t see Leafs getting #7-overall pick unless Gardiner involved.  Not happening.

  • leafmealone

    Wow. Karma. That is all.

  • Uncle Otis

    Read the article about Reimer feeling less than wanted due to the Bernier trade.
    Just wait until Nonis locks JB up with a multi year, long term contract before ever having played a scrimmage or having been a #1
    Think Reims days in T.O. are numbered

    • daniel marois

      Uncle Otis 
      I think so as well.  Might be way off, but could move Reimer at the draft and sign a vet goalie to back-up Bernier.  Risky, but the return for Reimer would be enticing.

    • rustynail

      Uncle Otis That new contract with Bernier will be telling methinks

      • mapleleafmuse

        rustynail Uncle Otis I agree 100% Rusty

      • Uncle Otis

        rustynail 
        Exactly…can’t see Nonis paying two goalers biggish $$ long term
        And Reims is due next.

        • LN-093

          Uncle Otis rustynail Would you trade Frattin, Scrivens, a 2nd rounder and retained salary for a BACKUP GOALIE??  Didn’t think so.  Bernier was brought here to be the number one and Reimer is trade bait.

        • mcloki

          LN-093 Uncle Otis rustynail Two men enter the net, One man leaves. 
          This season on “Gloves of Fury”

        • mcloki

          LN-093 Uncle Otis rustynail Two men enter the net, One man leaves. 
          This season on “Gloves of Fury”

        • mcloki

          LN-093 Uncle Otis rustynail Two men enter the net, One man leaves. 
          This season on “Gloves of Fury”

  • Uncle Otis

    Read the article about Reimer feeling less than wanted due to the Bernier trade.
    Just wait until Nonis locks JB up with a multi year, long term contract before ever having played a scrimmage or having been a #1
    Think Reims days in T.O. are numbered

  • Loric76

    https://twitter.com/Peter_Lynnhttps://twitter.com/Peter_Lynn/status/349519270847315968
    I just saw a guy run into the server room the same way I run into the bathroom. I hope he isn’t going to do what I think he is in there.

    lol

  • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

    in all honesty , its fun to spitball and stir the pot . but i really like this team right now and moving forward . if there was a buyout deal that would be great , but i think i would be floatin grabbo and liles as a veteran package and hope to drum up a deal ……… that would be fine with me …..

    • colino17

      unclejakescards I’d like to keep Grabbo unless we get a big C upgrade…he looked like the only guy trying for a few of those playoff games

      • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

        colino17 unclejakescards i like grabbo too, but its about cap space …….

        • colino17

          unclejakescards colino17 Yeah it all depends on who comes in to take that space

      • LN-093

        colino17 unclejakescards He was trying but couldn’t score even when it was a tap-in.

  • .JVR.

    So, let me get this straight.
    Toronto has been looking to acquire a quality starter for years and as soon as they get one in Reimer, they go out and waste assets to acquire another one.

    Also, the team has a history of being weak on defence and now that we have a true #1 guy in Phaneuf, Nonis puts him on the trading block?

    • Area49th

      .JVR. It maybe just to say, no one is untouchable. We kept dead weight for years, some we even traded for. Change of thinking now. I will wait and see

      • .JVR.

        Area49th
        Yea, but I wouldn’t exactly call Phaneuf “dead-weight”

        • Area49th

          .JVR. Area49th Not saying he is. Just a blanket statement

        • Area49th

          .JVR. Area49th Not saying he is. Just a blanket statement

    • Area49th

      .JVR. It maybe just to say, no one is untouchable. We kept dead weight for years, some we even traded for. Change of thinking now. I will wait and see

    • Greg Fenton

      .JVR. Obviously Nonis and/or Carlyle and/or Leiweke aren’t comfortable with Reimer being their #1 guy.

      • daniel marois

        Greg Fenton .JVR. 
        Or Bozak as their #1 centre.

  • KingTon

    Is this Phaneuf trade talk legit?  Did Nonis really say he was considering?

    • mcloki

      KingTon HB level BS rumour to keep Leaf fans twittering.

    • .JVR.

      KingTon 
      Apparently he has made him available, but who really knows.
      Also, if he is traded, a true #1 centre or a #1 defencemen better be coming back.

    • .JVR.

      KingTon 
      Apparently he has made him available, but who really knows.
      Also, if he is traded, a true #1 centre or a #1 defencemen better be coming back.

    • daniel marois

      KingTon 
      Not exactly…but that doesn’t mean is not listening to offers.  No idea where he could go.  Speculation is EDM because they need help on D.

    • Uncle Otis

      KingTon 
      If Nonis is truly shopping Dion,then I think there must be some type of off ice  or dressing room reason.
      As a relatively affordable #1 ice muncher,he wont be easily replaced.

    • Greg Fenton

      KingTon Nonis has basically said everyone is available.