MLHS 2013 Mock Draft – Part 1

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Don’t take this as our etched in stone mock draft projection, think of it more as a fun exercise for the sake of learning a little bit about the top prospects set to join NHL teams this Sunday.

1st: Colorado Avalanche – ALEX TRAN – NATHAN MACKINNON

With the 1st pick in the 2013 NHL Entry Draft, the Colorado Avalanche are pleased to select forward Nathan Mackinnon from the Halifax Mooseheads of the QMJHL.

We believe Nate is the best player available in a very strong draft class. He is a brilliant offensive player with the kind of skillset that will have our fans on the edge of their seats. Nate will fit right in with a young, exciting roster and we are thrilled to welcome him to the organization.

2nd: Florida Panthers – MISLAV JANTOLJAK – SETH JONES

With the 2nd pick in the 2013 NHL Entry Draft, the Florida Panthers are delighted to select defenseman Seth Jones from the Portland Winterhawks of the Western Hockey League.

We believe that Seth Jones possess all the characteristics that will make him a franchise defenseman in the future. A skater with great lateral mobility along with a big frame, Seth is already showing hockey IQ beyond his years. Him and Erik Gudbranson make our defensive core a major franchise strength for years to come. We’re very excited to be adding this young man to the fold.

3rd: Tampa Bay Lightning – MICHAEL STEPHENS – JONATHAN DROUIN

With the third pick in the 2013 NHL Entry Draft, the Tampa Bay Lightning are proud to select left winger Jonathan Drouin from the Halifax Mooseheads of the QMJHL.

We feel that with Jon’s selection, the Lightning have acquired the player with the best on-ice vision in the entire draft class. His vision pairs nicely with his terrific passing skills and simply sublime puck-handling ability. We feel that he is NHL-ready, and should get a long look in the preseason with Steven Stamkos and Martin St-Louis.

We feel that he will be a top flight winger within the next few seasons; an electric offensive contributor who should combine with Stamkos to give the Lightning perhaps the most intimidating offensive tandem in the league.

4th: Nashville Predators – BRIAN HUDDLE – ALEXANDER BARKOV

With the 4th selection in the 2013 NHL Draft, Nashville is proud to welcome Alexander Barkov to the organization.

We feel Barkov is an NHL-ready center with top line upside, and an ability to impact all zones of the ice — the Nashville way. We believe his combination of size, skill and two-way play make for a long term franchise option to build around, and we think we could see him in the lineup as soon as September.

5th: Carolina Hurricanes- JON STEITZER – VALERI NICHUSHKIN

The Carolina Hurricanes would like to thank our hosts, the New Jersey Devils for putting on this fantastic event here in beautiful Newark. The Hurricanes would also like to say hello to our draft party back home in Raleigh. We would also like to congratulate the Chicago Blackhawks for their tremendous Stanley Cup run this spring and offer our support to all the great hockey fans in Calgary.

Since the New York Rangers refused to trade us Marc Staal for this pick, the Carolina Hurricanes are pleased to select, from Traktor Chelyabinsk of the Kontinental Hockey League, Valeri Nichushkin

This was a relatively easy decision as Nichushkin is the last of the top-five talent left on the board. I had him ranked fifth, and picking fifth I got him. It really was a toss up on whether or not I would put him ahead of Drouin, who I have ranked fourth since Valeri has size, experience playing against grown men, and a style of play better suited to the NHL than Drouin.

Nichushkin is all speed and isn’t afraid to go to the net. It seems that the two things that prevented him from being ranked higher are the fact that he’s a winger, and the fact that he has committed to spending the next season in the KHL if he can’t crack an NHL roster.

6th: Calgary Flames – BLUE CHIP PROSPECTS – SEAN MONAHAN

For years and years, Leafs fans lamented the team’s inability to find a top-end winger for Mats Sundin to skate with and for just as long Flames fans felt the same frustration with the centre position on Jarome Iginla’s line.

In Sean Monahan, the Flames have found themselves an all-situations centre who doesn’t really have any apparent weaknesses in his game. He’s a great playmaker who skates reasonably well and has strong puck skills. Everything Monahan did in the OHL this year he did alone as Ottawa really didn’t provide him with much in the way of help. In my viewings, Monahan was exceptional and actually reminds me a fair bit of Anze Kopitar. If he keeps growing, as most draft eligible players tend to, then he’ll be a real force all over the ice.

7th: Edmonton Oilers – MATT MISTLE – MAX DOMI

The Edmonton Oilers would like to thank the New Jersey Devils for hosting, the Toronto Maple Leafs for allowing us to outright steal a promising young coach, and the Chicago Blackhawks for delivering the swift swing of an ironic, karmic blade to the exposed necks of the Boston Bruins.

We furiously tried to trade this pick to Toronto for Dion Phaneuf. They kept asking for Ryan Nugent-Hopkins back. I’m not sure which one of us is more insane.

With the 7th overall pick in the 2013 Entry Draft, Edmonton is thrilled to troll every blogger in this mock draft by reaching ever so slightly to select Max Domi. For reasons of nostalgia, hope, and awesomeness that probably do not need to be elaborated on further.

8th: Buffalo Sabres – ANTHONY PETRIELLI – ELIAS LINDHOLM

With the 8th pick in the draft, the Buffalo Sabres are extremely happy to select Elias Lindholm

Despite drafting two centers last year in the first round and having Hodgson and Ennis on the NHL roster, Lindholm is too tantalizing of a talent to pass up with the eighth overall pick. The value is simply phenomenal. He’s a playmaking center who has already shown he can produce against men in the top Swedish league and he’s almost 200 pounds standing 6’, which is the sweet spot for centers.

9th: New Jersey Devils – MISLAV – CURTIS LAZAR

With the 9th pick in the 2013 NHL Entry Draft, the New Jersey Devils are proud to select center Curtis Lazar from the Edmonton Oil Kings of the Western Hockey League.

Curtis is a strong kid who possesses a good shot and has enough offensive ability to be a factor in the NHL. Above all, we really like his character and feel he could be a leader of this team in the future. We view Lazar as one of the can’t-miss prospects in this year’s draft and are happy to welcome him to the Devils organization.

10th: Dallas Stars – ALEX – DARNELL NURSE

With the 10th selection, the Dallas Stars are pleased to select defenseman Darnell Nurse from the Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds of the Ontario Hockey League.

Darnell has taken great strides in his development this past season, to the point where we were worried he played himself out of our range with this selection. He plays with tremendous poise and vision from the blueline and his combination of size, skating and reach are second to none in this class.

11th: Philadelphia Flyers – MICHAEL – Rasmus Ristolainen

The Philadelphia Flyers, with the 11th pick in the 2013 NHL Entry Draft, are proud to select from TPS Turku of the SM Liiga… uhh — wait, I forget – Rasmus Ristolainen!

Ristolainen stands at 6’3” 207 pounds, and at the tender age of 18 is already a 93-game veteran of Finland’s top league. A late ‘94 birthday, the defenseman is among the more mature and experienced draft eligibles in the 2013 class and has a well-rounded game. He’s also a two-year veteran of Finland’s World Junior team, where he’s displayed both talent and leadership characteristics. There’s a fair chance he’ll captain the country’s 2014 team.

Offensively, he’s capable of carrying the puck out of the zone as well as firing off crisp, effective break out passes. He also posseses one of the hardest slap shots in his draft class. While hardly earth shattering, he led Turku in points by a defenseman, with 3 goals and 12 assists in 55 games.

Fairly mobile given his size, he still needs to improve his defensive game by using his imposing frame to check with aplomb. Given the dearth of defensive talent on the Flyers roster, Ristolainen could get a chance in the NHL as early as next season.

12th: Phoenix Coyotes – BRIAN – BO HORVAT

With the 12th pick in the 2013 NHL Draft, Phoenix is proud to select forward, Bo Horvat, from the London Knights of the Ontario Hockey League.

Bo is a terrific two-way player in the mold of what we’re building in Phoenix, but brings tremendous IQ and skill along with an advanced two-way game. In the mold of a Mike Richards/Ryan Kesler/Ryan O’Rielly/Patrice Bergeron, we feel that Bo will be among the best two-way forwards for many years to come.

13th: Winnipeg Jets – BCP – NIKITA ZADOROV

With the 13th selection, the Winnipeg Jets are pleased to select from the London Knights of the Ontario Hockey League, Nikita Zadorov.

This is the spot in the draft where I really tend to favour swinging for the fences and that’s exactly what I’ve done with this selection. At 6’5” and between 220 and 230 lbs, Zadorov is a monster. Add strong skating and good mobility to the package and you’ve got a defenseman with one of the highest ceilings of any player in the draft. He needs to work on his shot and his puck movement leaves a fair bit to be desired, but if you’re looking for a potential major trophy winner in the middle of the first round then you should look long and hard at Zadorov.

14th: Columbus Blue Jackets – JON – HUNTER SHINKARUK

With the 14th pick in the first round, the Columbus Blue Jackets are proud to select from the Medicine Hat Tigers of the Western Hockey League, Hunter Shinkaruk.

To be honest I’m absolutely shocked that Shinkaruk has fallen this far. He’s been in the top ten on most draft lists, he’s a solid scorer who can play center, but is likely destined for the wing at the pro level. He has an outside shot at being ready to play this season, but his size might hold him back. For the Blue Jackets, who have two more picks in the first round to address more specific needs, having someone with this amount of upside available here is a huge win.

15th: New York Islanders – MISLAV – ZACHARY FUCALE

With the 15th pick in the 2013 NHL Entry Draft, the New York Islanders are proud to select goaltender Zachary Fucale from the Halifax Mooseheads of the QMJHL.

Positionally sound and very mature for his age, we feel that Zachary is by far the best goaltending prospect available in this year’s NHL entry draft. He proved he can be a goalie who can single handedly carry a team and one who can make good, timely saves for a powerhouse squad. This cool and collected young man will be a most welcome addition to the aging Islanders’ crease as the organization hopes to have found its future No.1 goaltender.

  • wiski

    TheCanucksnaphook your fast 😉

  • Anthony Petrielli

    TheCanucksnaphook Blame Mislav

  • Black_Hawk

    TheCanucksnaphook yeah i doubt they do too but it makes sense sort of

  • Black_Hawk

    why is the site different?

    • newkb

      Black_Hawk Because we have knowledgeable posters?

      • Black_Hawk

        newkb Black_Hawk no i mean the format lol

        • newkb

          Black_Hawk newkb Aha….not sure, seems the same to me on Chrome.

        • Black_Hawk

          newkb Black_Hawk i can still post so thats fine i guess

  • Pent_House

    Domi @ 7? Lazar at 9? lmao

    • Black_Hawk

      Pent_House i would love to get him at 21

    • wiski

      Pent_House Bit high for Domi eh?

      • Alec Brownscombe

        wiski Pent_House Haha relax boys.
        Not to spoil part 2, but Matt Mistele takes Jordan Subban in the teens. Let’s just say this mock draft is not meant to be bet on.

        • YakovMironov

          Alec Brownscombe wiski Pent_House Matt played the role of Jay Feaster for us.

        • Anthony Petrielli

          YakovMironov Alec Brownscombe wiski Pent_House See below comment I made.

        • wiski

          YakovMironov Alec Brownscombe wiski Pent_House LOL

        • newkb

          YakovMironov Alec Brownscombe wiski Pent_House Feast-er famine?

        • Black_Hawk

          Alec Brownscombe wiski Pent_House i would take him with our pick if he falls that far. That is a realistic pick.

        • YakovMironov

          Anthony Petrielli YakovMironov Alec Brownscombe wiski Pent_House For the Subban pick I’m suggesting his username be changed to JFJ for a month.

        • Pent_House

          YakovMironov Alec Brownscombe wiski Pent_House No kidding lol I was surprised with Mislav though, Lazar at 9 is ridiculously high

        • YakovMironov

          Anthony Petrielli YakovMironov Alec Brownscombe wiski Pent_House though it did mean I could get the player I wanted by drafting after him so it wasn’t so bad.

        • Black_Hawk

          Pent_House YakovMironov Alec Brownscombe wiski i like him too though. i can understand his rational.

        • YakovMironov

          Pent_House YakovMironov Alec Brownscombe wiski I love Lazar and I wasn’t thinking of taking him that high. I have him 11th on my draft list, though my draft list is more geared around who I’d want on the Leafs.

        • Pent_House

          YakovMironov Pent_House Alec Brownscombe wiski The highest I’ve seen Lazar ranked is 14th, and even then, most rankings have him around 19th.  9th is just nuts, I would even say 11th is nuts.

        • YakovMironov

          Pent_House YakovMironov Alec Brownscombe wiski Hockey News had him in the top 10, but then again, that’s the Hockey News.

        • Black_Hawk

          Pent_House YakovMironov Alec Brownscombe wiski think he will be good though.

        • Anthony Petrielli

          Black_Hawk Pent_House YakovMironov Alec Brownscombe wiski In fairness, NJ is forfeiting a pick soon and Lazar is safe. People thought the same thing when Scheifele was drafted as high as he was. I wouldn’t have picked Lazar there, but I don’t think it’s crazy.

        • Black_Hawk

          Anthony Petrielli Black_Hawk Pent_House YakovMironov Alec Brownscombe wiski man I dont know what NJ was thinking not forfeiting the 29th pick last year.

        • Pent_House

          Anthony Petrielli Black_Hawk Pent_House YakovMironov Alec Brownscombe wiski Doesn’t make sense for NJ. Lazar is a 3c, or 2RW at best. They need offensive forwards or a goalie. I’m thinking they take Shinkaruk if they want the forward, and Fucale is a no brainer for the goalie. Lazar is way off the board at that spot and doesn’t really make sense to me for the Devils.

        • Black_Hawk

          Pent_House Anthony Petrielli Black_Hawk YakovMironov Alec Brownscombe wiski yeah i would go goalie too

        • rustynail

          Black_Hawk Anthony Petrielli Pent_House YakovMironov Alec Brownscombe wiski they are hoping they can get Betsy to drop that penalty to avoid their bankruptcy next season

        • Black_Hawk

          rustynail Black_Hawk Anthony Petrielli Pent_House YakovMironov Alec Brownscombe wiski really?

    • Pent_House

      NJ takes Shinkaruk or Fucale at 9, no way in hell Lazar goes that high.

      • Black_Hawk

        Pent_House that might be the case

    • Anthony Petrielli

      Pent_House This exercise confirmed Matt would be the worst GM of any MLHS writer.

      • YakovMironov

        Anthony Petrielli Pent_House I’m going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he’d be great at signing free agents.

        • Anthony Petrielli

          YakovMironov Anthony Petrielli Pent_House “I won’t be around when these picks make the NHL anyways, so I might as well sign some guys that can help right now”-Matt.

      • BrianJHuddle

        Anthony Petrielli Pent_House Damn fanboys, I tells ya.

        • rustynail

          BrianJHuddle Anthony Petrielli Pent_House I thought you were all done with hockey :)

        • BrianJHuddle

          rustynail BrianJHuddle Anthony Petrielli Pent_House Done with being out there publically, yes. Haha. Not into the bitching and name calling that Twitter and the Hockey World has become. 😉

        • rustynail

          BrianJHuddle rustynail Anthony Petrielli Pent_House was just yankin your chain

        • BrianJHuddle

          rustynail BrianJHuddle Anthony Petrielli Pent_House SHUTUP! I KILL YOU!
          But hey :)

        • Burtonboy

          BrianJHuddle rustynail Anthony Petrielli Pent_House Your more then welcome here as far as I’m concerned

        • rustynail

          Burtonboy BrianJHuddle rustynail Anthony Petrielli Pent_House agreed always

  • Glove Dropper

    Interesting draft ranking that has a pretty clear scouting methodology and good reports on the players and their tiers, although a notable bias towards forwards.  Still an interesting read.

    http://hockeyprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=1522

  • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

    https://twitter.com/sunhornbyhttps://twitter.com/sunhornby/status/349983384023478273
    Order of Sunday’s draft has Leafs currently picking 21, 51, 81, 117, 142, 172 and 202. Picks in all rounds.

    • Black_Hawk

      ingy56 nice

      • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

        Black_Hawk ingy56 …as of now, here’s hoping they move up!

        • Black_Hawk

          ingy56 Black_Hawk not expecting anything but would be nice if the deal is right

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Black_Hawk ingy56 I think they get the Oilers 4th next year for Brownie too.

        • Black_Hawk

          ingy56 Black_Hawk oh yeah what did we get for brown again

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Black_Hawk ingy56 A 4th, but if the Oilers make the playoffs next year it’s a 3rd.  C’mon Dallas, make it so.

        • Black_Hawk

          ingy56 Black_Hawk lol i rather just have the 4th 😉

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Black_Hawk ingy56 Yeah…could be worth it eh?

  • wiski

    https://twitter.com/mirtlehttps://twitter.com/mirtle/status/349984440052748288
    As part of conditions on Lupul deal, Leafs will receive Ducks fourth round pick in draft (117th). Condition made it either fourth or sixth.

    • Black_Hawk

      wiski solid, lupul deal still paying dividends for us

      • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

        Black_Hawk wiski Leafs 4th went to the Preds in the Franson deal but they get a 4th from the Coyotes next years for sending them Lombardi this year.

        • Black_Hawk

          ingy56 Black_Hawk wiski solid

  • Great Dane

    Nonis need to go hard after the Lightning, Hurricanes and Oilers and try to get their first round pick. MacKinnon is not possible but Barkov should be possible to grab at 4th.

    • Black_Hawk

      Great Dane Barkov does not get to 7

      • Great Dane

        Black_Hawk Great Dane Agree – he will probably go 4th but it is possible to move up from 7th to 4th at a reasonable price.

        • Black_Hawk

          Great Dane Black_Hawk might cost too much though

        • Great Dane

          Black_Hawk several possibilities. As long as useful assets are getting back to Toronto.

        • Pent_House

          Great Dane Black_Hawk I wouldn’t take any of their roster players. I’d take picks. No thanks to Fatty(tlusty) and Faulk is nice but kinda more of the same of what we have.

        • newkb

          Great Dane Black_Hawk I just vomited on my keyboard…..wow.  Yuck.  3rd time this week, too.

        • Black_Hawk

          newkb Great Dane Black_Hawk lol

        • wendelsfist

          Great Dane Black_Hawk Are you saying a 3 way with Lecav and 3rd to leafs.  And Carle or Hedman to Canes?

        • wiski

          newkb Great Dane Black_Hawk Get yourself a tablet. 😉

        • newkb

          wiski newkb Great Dane Black_Hawk Got one.  You’d figure it would wipe clean too, but…..damn speakers.

  • Black_Hawk

    Cant believe the flyers bought out Bryzgalov. What a stupid move. He was gonna return to form this year and be a superstar im sure. ……lol

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      Black_Hawk They really didn’t have much choice.

      • Black_Hawk

        ingy56 Black_Hawk joke bro

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Black_Hawk ingy56 He could return to form though…no joke.

        • Black_Hawk

          ingy56 Black_Hawk yeah i think he will if he goes to the right team. Like phx

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Black_Hawk ingy56 Yes, if they lose Smith it could happen. Sean Burke has left though so he would have a new goalie coach.

        • Black_Hawk

          ingy56 Black_Hawk yeah he has

    • Black_Hawk

      canuckintheuk Black_Hawk that would be too funny

    • Burtonboy

      Black_Hawk
      http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2013/06/26/bryzgalov-would-consider-signing-with-edmonton-oilers-his-agent-says/http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2013/06/26/bryzgalov-would-consider-signing-with-edmonton-oilers-his-agent-says/

      • Black_Hawk

        Burtonboy Black_Hawk that would be a solid move for EDM imo

      • rustynail

        Burtonboy Black_Hawk but isn’t it tooo cold for him there? Seem, to remember him stating that while he was in Phoenix

        • Burtonboy

          rustynail Burtonboy Black_Hawk LOL Winterpeg

        • newkb

          rustynail Burtonboy Black_Hawk Don’t forget he’ll have to worry about bears there too.

        • Black_Hawk

          newkb rustynail Burtonboy Black_Hawk lol yeah “i scared of bear”

        • Burtonboy

          Black_Hawk newkb rustynail Burtonboy Can you imagine him a Dallas together .lol

      • wiski

        Burtonboy Black_Hawk Does he know it’s colder than winterpeg 😉

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          wiski Burtonboy Black_Hawk or Russia?

  • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ LeoTheLion

    The Philadelphia Flyers, with the 11th pick in the 2013 NHL Entry Draft, are proud to select from TPS Turku of the SM Liiga… uhh — wait, I forget – Rasmus Ristolainen!

    Well played subtle joke, Michael.

    • Black_Hawk

      @LeoTheLion that be funny to see again

  • rustynail

    TheCanucksnaphook what could possibly go wrong doing that?

  • Mitch_S2

    Both Domi and Horvat had great playoff’s both are going to do well in the draft. 
    Horvat should be the leafs target though.  Rychel isn’t bad either, same with Lazar. For relatively cheap we should be able to move up enough to snag one of those players.  Personally not sold on Gauthier. Doesn’t have the pedigree of the others, and it isn’t encouraging that he barely played at a PPG in the Q. 
    If none of those guys are available it means there are some solid d men there, which is fine to draft but I’d prefer to just side step a few picks and snag either Hartman or Klimchuk

    • Black_Hawk

      Mitch_S2 Lazar would be great where we are picking imo

      • Mitch_S2

        Black_Hawk Mitch_S2 Lazar would be perfect. And he would have time to develop too.

        • daniel marois

          Mitch_S2 Black_Hawk 
          Unfortunately, I don’t think Lazar falls to #21.  I think SJ might snap him just before us.

        • Black_Hawk

          daniel marois Mitch_S2 Black_Hawk yeah i can see DET taking him too

        • Mitch_S2

          Black_Hawk daniel marois Mitch_S2  It wouldnt cost that much to move up a few spots though.  
          Blacker and our first is pretty appealing. Potentially to columbus? 
          They still have three first’s and add a quality prospect like Blacker who could likely play next year. We would be picking 14th there and have a good shot at Horvat or Domi.

    • daniel marois

      Mitch_S2 
      Mitch…I agree with you.  If one of the higher-rated d-men available…no prob.  But I think Klimchuk is a homerun pick much like Reilly last year.

      • Mitch_S2

        daniel marois Mitch_S2 Theres a chance Pulock is still around which would be tough to pass up.  Even Robert Hagg who was quite highly touted

        • daniel marois

          Mitch_S2 daniel marois 
          Pulock I might take over Klimchuk…but not Hagg.  He does not have the offensive upside of Pulock.

        • newkb

          daniel marois Mitch_S2 Is Pulock a right-handed shot?

        • daniel marois

          newkb daniel marois Mitch_S2 
          I believe so.

        • Mitch_S2

          newkb daniel marois Mitch_S2 He’s a monster handed shot. who cares which way he holds his stick.

        • newkb

          Mitch_S2 newkb daniel marois Not saying don’t take him if he’s left, but a RD would work better in the grand scheme of things IMO.

        • newkb

          daniel marois newkb Mitch_S2 Cool, thanks.

        • GeorgeCastanza

          daniel marois Mitch_S2 I heard Pulock’s got the hardest slapshot in the draft?  Is this right?

        • daniel marois

          GeorgeCastanza daniel marois Mitch_S2 
          YES.  If not, he is right near the top.

        • Black_Hawk

          daniel marois GeorgeCastanza Mitch_S2 who is this guy?

  • daniel marois

    Guys, been out all afternoon.  Can anyone bring me up to speed on the TB-Tor rumour that was shot down by the league?  Did Tor really offer Edm Gunnar but they demanded Franson instead for the 7th-overall pick??

    • happy_gilmour

      daniel marois where did you hear that?

      • daniel marois

        happy_gilmour daniel marois 
        SlamSports (Canoe.ca) just ran the story.  Thought you guys would have been all over it here discussing.

        • Burtonboy

          daniel marois happy_gilmour you have a link ?

        • daniel marois

          Burtonboy daniel marois happy_gilmour
          Here you go
          http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/Toronto/2013/06/26/20929896.html

        • GeorgeCastanza

          daniel marois Burtonboy happy_gilmour Finally nice to see the Leafs trying to bend the rules or push the limits to get better.

        • Black_Hawk

          GeorgeCastanza daniel marois Burtonboy happy_gilmour too bad it didn’t work

        • wiski

          GeorgeCastanza daniel marois Burtonboy happy_gilmour Why couldn’t they just slip TB some cash under the table, have TB buyout Vinny and the leafs sign him after all nice and legal 😉

        • daniel marois

          GeorgeCastanza daniel marois Burtonboy happy_gilmour 
          Yes.  Even though this did not work – doesn’t mean a deal with Isles and Dipetro can’t happen.  As long as when Leafs buyout Dipietro he does not re-sign with Isles.  And that woiuld not happen.  Isles want to wash their hands of Dipetro. My suspicion is that Isles want the cap space to get Luongo.

        • Black_Hawk

          daniel marois GeorgeCastanza Burtonboy happy_gilmour i would do that for their 1st pick and then use both the 1sts to move up higher

        • daniel marois

          Black_Hawk daniel marois GeorgeCastanza Burtonboy happy_gilmour 
          For sure.  Or make a strong push to pry Ryan Strome.  He is exactly the type of young centre Nonis is looking for.  Albeit unproven at the NHL level.

        • Greg Fenton

          daniel marois Black_Hawk GeorgeCastanza Burtonboy happy_gilmour WHich is why the Islanders won’t move him. Upside is too good to give away just to get a buyout.

    • BrianJHuddle

      daniel marois I’d happily hand over Franson for 7th overall, and I’m a massive Cody fan.

      • Pent_House

        BrianJHuddle daniel marois That doesn’t make sense, you’d be hoping to get a guy as good as Franson is now at #7

      • Mind Bomb

        BrianJHuddle daniel marois  Who are you targeting with that Pick Brian ?, not just anyone at seven, will be better than Cody. What if Monahan and Lindholm are gone ?

        • BrianJHuddle

          Mind Bomb BrianJHuddle daniel marois Pent_House You don’t think you can get a better player than a #4-#5 Dman like Cody at 7th overall in a draft being compared to 2003? I’d easily take Monahan, Ristolainen, Zadorov, Horvat, Nurse or Shinkaruk over Cody Franson.

        • Mind Bomb

          BrianJHuddle Mind Bomb daniel marois Pent_House  Hmm, ok thank you for the response, We dis-agree somewhat, A NHL ready Franson or an 18 year old 4 years away from impact. Now Monahan wont be there, The Elite level Centers will be gone. I would keep Franson and Package our first to move up on say a HOrvat, or if Nurse drops

        • Mind Bomb

          BrianJHuddle Mind Bomb daniel marois Pent_House  Hmm, ok thank you for the response, We dis-agree somewhat, A NHL ready Franson or an 18 year old 4 years away from impact. Now Monahan wont be there, The Elite level Centers will be gone. I would keep Franson and Package our first to move up on say a HOrvat, or if Nurse drops

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      daniel marois The league shot down any trade-buyout scenario whereby the bought out player re-signs with his old team. No idea about the Oiler rumour though.

      • daniel marois

        ingy56 daniel marois 
        That’s too bad.  Would have been awesome if we could have pulled off that trade.  But I can see how the league blocked it.  That trade would make the league look like clowns allowing that loophole to happen.

        • Black_Hawk

          daniel marois ingy56 thats stupid though. The league shouldn’t be able to do that. If its not against the rules then its fine and you cant fuck with it.

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Black_Hawk daniel marois ingy56 If the Rangers or Bruins tried it I doubt there would be an issue.

        • Black_Hawk

          ingy56 Black_Hawk daniel marois yeah probably not. If it does happen though i will get pissed.

        • daniel marois

          Black_Hawk ingy56 daniel marois 
          Well, if Leafs can’t do it.  No way another team can pull this off.  Whether Rangers/Bruins, league will look like fools and media will take Bettman/Daly to task.

      • Black_Hawk

        ingy56 daniel marois thats too bad

    • Black_Hawk

      daniel marois until something actually happens we cant tell you anything usefull lol

    • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ LeoTheLion

      daniel marois lol you at like this is a big story. Was this in Eklund’s comments section? First i’ve heard of it. Sounds made up.

      • daniel marois

        @LeoTheLion daniel marois 
        Not the TB-Tor rumour.  I just posted a link from canoe.ca
        But I think the Edm rumour is something I read on the board here.

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          daniel marois I believe that was from a fake Jonas Siegel tweet…nothing to it.

        • daniel marois

          ingy56 daniel marois 
          Oh ok.  Thanks.  But don’t doubt Nonis talking with Edm.  Even if it’s for someone like Paajarvi or Omark.

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          daniel marois ingy56 Oh for sure, I have no doubt they are talking.

        • Black_Hawk

          daniel marois ingy56 Omark is a punk apparently. Complaining bout ice time and shit.

  • http://twitter.com/jmckelvie RielledUp

    This is a mock draft me and my buddy did today while we were bored at work.
     COL – (1st) Nathan MacKinnon (Jon) C
    FLA – (3rd) Johnathan Drouin (Bessey) LW
    TBL – (2nd) Seth Jones (Bessey) D
    NSH – (4th) Aleksander Barkov (Jon) C
    CAR – (7th) Sean Monahan (Jon) C
    CGY – (5th) Elias Lindholm (Bessey) C
    EDM – (9th) Darnell Nurse (Bessey) D
    BUF – (6th) Valeri Nichushkin (Jon) LW
    NJD – (11th) Nikita Zadorov (Jon) D
    DAL – (8th) Rasmus Ristolaninen (Bessey) D
    PHI – (13th) Bo Horvat (Bessey) C
    PHX – (10th) Max Domi (Jon) C                                
    WPG – (14th) Hunter Shinkaruk (Jon) LW/C         
    CLB – (15th) Anthony Mantha (Bessey) LW
    NYI – (16th) Mirco Mueller (Bessey) D
    BUF – (17th) Samuel Morin (Jon) D
    OTT – (12th) Alexander Wennberg (Jon) C
    DET – (24th) Andre Burakovsky (Bessey) LW
    CLB – (20th) Adam Erne (Bessey) LW
    SJ – (18th) Curtis Lazar (Jon) RW/C
    TOR – (21st) Kerby Rychel (Jon) LW
    CGY – (22nd) Frederik Gauthier (Bessey) LW/RW
    WSH – (27th) Robert Hagg (Bessey) D
    VAN – (23rd) Ryan Pulock (Jon) D
    MTL – (26th) Ryan Hartman (Jon) RW
    ANA – (30th) Morgan Klimchuk (Bessey) LW
    CLB – (28th) Josh Morrissey (Bessey) D
    CGY – (19th) Zachary Fucale (Jon) G
    DAL – (33rd) Nicolas Petan (Jon) C
    CHI – (32nd) Chris Bigras (Bessey) D

    • Black_Hawk

      RielledUp Is rychel any good? would it be better just to trade the pick ?

      • daniel marois

        Black_Hawk RielledUp 
        Rychel is a good pick.  Does he have more offensive upside than Biggs?  Perhaps.  But a lot of these power-forward type players post these numbers in junior and never translate to NHL.

        • Black_Hawk

          daniel marois Black_Hawk RielledUp yeah most dont.

  • Mind Bomb

    Hey, nice blog guys, Everyone loves the centers :)
    Seriously, Lazar over Horbat eh, or Lazar over Nurse ? hmmmm

    • Greg Fenton

      Mind Bomb Sounds like their justificaion is “take the kid more likely make it but with a little less upside”.

      • Mind Bomb

        Greg Fenton Mind Bomb  Yep, safe, not bad, me I think we are not so drained in the system we cant swing a little. Trade up a bit and hit a homer !

  • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

    rustynail  hay rusty , how does this amnesty buyout work when they have to put a player with a nmc on waivers ? can they trade them before or after waivers even if he didnt agree to move ????

    • wiski

      unclejakescards rustynail Pretty sure they are UFAs afterwards.

      • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

        wiski unclejakescards rustynail ya, to be bought out the player has to go on waivers 1st …

        • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

          wiski unclejakescards rustynail im just wondering if tampa could trade vinny to be bought out without him waiving his nmc ???

        • wendelsfist

          unclejakescards wiski rustynail the player can be waived but he can’t be assigned to  ahl or traded somewhere he does not consent to

        • rustynail

          unclejakescards wiski rustynail different waivers and no one can claim them

        • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

          rustynail unclejakescards wiski but could they trade him after waivers without his consent ??? probly not but never know lolol

        • rustynail

          unclejakescards rustynail wiski nope can just buy him out

        • rustynail

          unclejakescards rustynail wiski nope can just buy him out

        • wiski

          rustynail unclejakescards wiski Mac just said they have to clear waivers on tsn

        • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

          rustynail unclejakescards wiski thank you sir

        • Burtonboy

          wiski rustynail unclejakescards Yep they have to clear waiver first

        • rustynail

          wiski rustynail unclejakescards but you cannot claim some one with a NMC

        • Cameron19

          unclejakescards wiski rustynail No.  It’s unconditional waivers, for the express purpose of being bought out.

        • Xxxxxnew

          No. Has to agree to trade. CBA didn’t eliminate no trade clauses.

  • Cameron19

    Even though the league says you can’t resign a player another team bought out for you, it doesn’t mean Tampa doesn’t still want someone to pay Lecavalier’s buyout for them.  Although, with his option of returning to Tampa closed, one wonders if he would still waive his NMC.  I’m guessing he would though.  I mean, the team has been great to him.  If they need to move on, at the expense of paying him 30 million dollars not to play, you’d think he’d be willing to co-operate.  He could actually make more money getting bought out.  I’m sure in the next 5 years he can easily make-up the lost 15 million and more.

    • newkb

      Cameron19 Even better is that he doesn’t have to play out the length of the original contract….to possibly make much more.

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      Cameron19 kinda what i posted earlier , this is a ownership decision , not management . the decision is to save 30 mil not to be able to re-sign him ……. ive just been wondering if its the nmc that could be holding it up …… vinny could kill it on his own ???

      • Cameron19

        unclejakescards Cameron19 Yea, he can.

    • Loric76

      Cameron19 you of all people should see the way around this…a 3 way!
      Trade him to Toronto along with Tampa’s 3rd overall pick, Toronto buys him out, he signs with Team X (whoever Tampa has a good trading relationship with), trades him back to Tampa for one of Tampa’s late round picks.

      • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

        Loric76 Cameron19 I know what Holmgren would do.

      • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

        Loric76 Cameron19 I know what Holmgren would do.

      • Cameron19

        Loric76 Cameron19 

        Yea, but I think that becomes collusion.  One would think that Vinnie would just actually want to take the time to go sign some 1 year deals for Cup contenders and see if he can add some hardware to his legacy, and just return to Tampa in a couple years.

        • Loric76

          Cameron19 Loric76 that’s obviously more realistic, hopefully that’s how it plays out – Toronto gets their 1st or something else good for buying out Lecav, and he goes to the Rangers or where ever on a one year deal

      • Xxxxxnew

        League already said no to those.

        • Loric76

          Xxxxxnew no, they said Tampa can’t resign him – and they’re not, they’re trading for him.  Semantics I know.

        • Xxxxxnew

          No, league said it wouldn’t tolerate circumvention in any form, and threatened penalties. All trades have to get league approval.

        • Cameron19

          Xxxxxnew Yea, but it sounded like their biggest issue was with the fact that said player would end up returning to his original roster, which is tantamount to contract restructuring – which is what they are trying to avoid.  I would still be surprised if they have a problem with teams trading buyout problems for assets, because that is just a really pure form of revenue sharing.

        • Xxxxxnew

          That’s was my understanding of what they meant bt circumvention.

      • daniel marois

        Loric76 Cameron19 
        Genius.  That would be a loophole within the loophole.  Brilliant!  How could the league block TB from TRADING for Vinny from another team?

        • rustynail

          daniel marois Loric76 Cameron19 they can’t just like you can trade for some one you bought out just is highly unlikely

        • rustynail

          daniel marois Loric76 Cameron19 they can’t just like you can trade for some one you bought out just is highly unlikely

        • daniel marois

          rustynail daniel marois Loric76 Cameron19 
          I know.  Was just kidding.  Even in that scenerio the League would block that transcation.

        • daniel marois

          rustynail daniel marois Loric76 Cameron19 
          I know.  Was just kidding.  Even in that scenerio the League would block that transcation.

        • Loric76

          daniel marois rustynail Loric76 Cameron19 if it wasn’t clear, my original post was someone tongue in cheek as well.  Obviously they’d block it, even if Lecav was whored around the whole league before landing back in Tampa

    • Xxxxxnew

      Here’s the original story. It’s by the NY Post’s Larry Brooks.
      http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more_sports/nhl_trips_up_buyouts_90sX16wV28TR1GtnCDS8ZO

  • Loric76

    Kinda cool that you guys are doing a mock draft, but I couldn’t care less what the other teams do…where the part that has who the Leafs pick lol

  • Cameron19

    I wonder what the Islanders are going to do about their goaltending situation.

    • lukethenuke

      Cameron19 draft fucle?

    • rustynail

      Cameron19 sign Bryz :)

      • Cameron19

        rustynail Cameron19 I think Bryzgalov will be a better goalie on his next team, as much as he’s a punchline right now.  I wonder if the Isles are hoping Luongo is bought out.

        • rustynail

          Cameron19 rustynail I actualy wasn’t kidding about Bryz and maybe in Calgary for instance he would do OK

        • lukethenuke

          rustynail Cameron19 youre funny

        • daniel marois

          Cameron19 rustynail 
          I think they want Luongo thru trade or UFA (ie: buyout).  But can’t with Dipietro on the books.  Perhaps Toronto can burn one of their own amnesty buyouts and demand something siginifcant from Isles in return.

        • Cameron19

          daniel marois Cameron19 rustynail Either Strome, or Niederreiter+1st.

        • Mind Bomb

          Cameron19 daniel marois rustynail  Hold out for Strome !

        • rustynail

          Cameron19 daniel marois rustynail Strome since we are doing the helping. Do wonder what ever happened to Nino

        • daniel marois

          Cameron19 daniel marois rustynail 
          Def Strome.  Mississauga native and put up huge numbers in the OHL.  And on a cap-friendly entry level contract, he could be the centre the Leafs have been desperately looking for.

        • whalz

          not going to get NINO + 1 st……

        • Loric76

          Cameron19 daniel marois rustynail JT + our 1st

        • Loric76

          Cameron19 daniel marois rustynail JT + our 1st

        • wendelsfist

          daniel marois Cameron19 rustynail Crazy three way trade
          VAN:  Komisarek, ++
          NYI:  Luongo, Ballard
          TOR: Dipietro, very nice stuff

        • daniel marois

          @whalz 
          No.  Just Strome would be enough.  Only way it includes Isles  first rounder is if Leafs and Isles swap their picks (#15 for #21)

        • Cameron19

          @whalz Nino is a prospect whose stock has dropped dramatically.

        • daniel marois

          Cameron19 
          Yes it has.  And due to that, I would rather Strome.

        • whalz

          cmon man, get out of FANTASY LAND……JT???? not  a snowballs chance……lol

        • Loric76

          @whalz lol its been a long day

        • Jay_Berg

          If we can’t get Strome another guy who we can target from the Isles is Brock Nelson. Big two-way centre with offensive skill.

        • whalz

          i think leafs are going to get EDM 7th overall

        • Cameron19

          @whalz Not that I wouldn’t be happy with that, but man…kinda getting tired of waiting for guys to develop.  I think we need someone a little further along than whoever we’d get there.

        • Greg Fenton

          @whalz In return for what?

        • Greg Fenton

          @whalz In return for what?

        • whalz

          21st + gunnerson

        • reenergized

          wendelsfist daniel marois Cameron19 rustynail what exactly do we get??

        • Greg Fenton

          @whalz I don’t think that close to getting the Oilers to give that pick up. Not when there is a good chance they’ll be able to draft Nurse. 
          Thats the problem with these “Leafs moving up to the 5th or 7th” spot rumors. The Leafs won’t want to give up the players those teams will want in return for those picks.

        • Cameron19

          Greg Fenton I think that’s the most I would pay for that pick.  With someone in that range, a realistic expectation is to become a defender or forward of equal quality to Gunnarsson.

        • Greg Fenton

          Cameron19 Greg Fenton If thats true (which it isn’t, guys like Nurse, who should/could be there are 7 have higher potential then that), what would the benefit to the Leafs be in moving Gunnerson for the chance of maybe getting a player as good as Gunnerson in 3-5 years? They have Gunnerson now.

        • The_Polish_Cannon

          daniel marois DiPietro has 36 million left on his contract. So the buyout will be 24 million. I doubt MLSE will pay 24 million dollars for Strome. There would have to be other pieces

    • daniel marois

      Cameron19 
      That’s where I see the Leafs helping out with the Dipietro contract.  And Fucale is 3-4 years away from competing.  Isles want someone now and I think it is Luongo.

    • daniel marois

      Cameron19 
      That’s where I see the Leafs helping out with the Dipietro contract.  And Fucale is 3-4 years away from competing.  Isles want someone now and I think it is Luongo.

    • wendelsfist

      Cameron19 trading dipietro + for bryz or luongo makes sense but snow doesn’t want to fix a problem to create another one.   might bode well for the leafs trading for DP.

    • whalz

      im sure they will throw some good dollars at Mike Smith,,,,,5mil 4 yrs

      • Cameron19

        @whalz Mike Smith is garbage.  Not that I care what the Islanders do.

        • daniel marois

          Cameron19 
          Yea.  I think the Isles look at the top goalies in the EAst and realize they don’t have one to compete for the playoffs.  That’s why I think they are heavy on Luongo.  But again, they would need to rid of Dipietro’s cntract first.

        • whalz

          doesnt matter if hes garbage, it would work in our favour playing them this yr

  • Cameron19

    I wonder what the Islanders are going to do about their goaltending situation.

  • Xxxxxnew

    The original leaf Tampa trade story
    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more_sports/nhl_trips_up_buyouts_90sX16wV28TR1GtnCDS8ZO

    • DJBrianBurke

      XxxxxnewI don’t like that the NHL did this. It makes no sense, they could have helped the teams out that need it. Isn’t that what this 3rd lockout was for? Instead, we get more financial fiasco from these problem teams.

      • Pent_House

        DJBrianBurke Xxxxxnew In theory it’s not any different than us getting Franson for taking on Lombardi. Stupid that they let that go, but not this

        • DJBrianBurke

          Pent_House DJBrianBurke Xxxxxnew No one said the NHL+Jacobs was smart.

        • rustynail

          DJBrianBurke Pent_House Xxxxxnew well Bruins aren;t involved in this one, not like the Thomas trade last year for instance

      • Pent_House

        DJBrianBurke Xxxxxnew In theory it’s not any different than us getting Franson for taking on Lombardi. Stupid that they let that go, but not this

      • Xxxxxnew

        They can still buy out Vinny. He just cant go back to Tampa for a year.

        • DJBrianBurke

          Xxxxxnew That might through the deal off.

        • Xxxxxnew

          That’s what it boils down to.

        • DJBrianBurke

          Xxxxxnew We could also take Stamkos to help with their money problem and we can give them the Burkie’s Doghouse sign. I’m sure they could get something for it on Ebay.

        • Xxxxxnew

          I like the cut of your jib.

  • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

    friedman comin on primetime sports to talk about the leafs bolts circumvention …….

    • whalz

      now?

      • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

        @whalz ya, afteer commercial

        • whalz

          sweet just turned it on the tube

    • wendelsfist

      unclejakescards Is that hosted by the Bob The Clown?

      • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

        wendelsfist unclejakescards ya, hes off tho , dont know who it is runnin show , not sayin whos with him ….. lolol

  • Pent_House

    So I guess that guy that came up with rumour of us getting the 3rd overall pick was pretty legit.

    • Cameron19

      Pent_House Was it me? lol

      • Pent_House

        Cameron19 Pent_House No jabroni, it wasn’t. Do you not remember 3rd overall for Vinny buy out and two mid-tier roster players?

        • whalz

          lmfao

        • whalz

          lmfao

        • Cameron19

          Pent_House Cameron19 I do, but I also remember coming up with this scenario a year ago, and talking about it like a hundred times.  Then some ‘jabroni’ Tweeted about it became legit.

        • Pent_House

          Cameron19 Pent_House The point was the hockey buzz guy, the chicago blogger who came out with this, seems to be a legit insider.

        • MLHS_Luke

          Pent_House Cameron19 By that logic Cameron is a legit insider.

    • daniel marois

      Pent_House 
      Yup.  It was a Blackhawks blogger.  Too bad it won’t work.  But if Tor can make a deal for Dipietro for and get a prospect like Strome – I won’t lose sleep over this nixed deal with TB.

  • Jay_Berg

    Someone tweeted this earlier but how funny would it be if the Flyers signed Bobrovsky to a massive offersheet lol

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      Jay_Berg hahahalololol

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      Jay_Berg Be even funnier if he signed it, went there and shit the bed.

      • Loric76

        ingy56 Jay_Berg lol

      • newkb

        ingy56 Jay_Berg Which goalie hasn’t shit the bed there?  Expected 100%….

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          newkb ingy56 Jay_Berg Exactly

        • Loric76

          newkb ingy56 Jay_Berg lol Hextall?

  • Jay_Berg

    Completely unrelated but is there anything harder then trying to figure out the right amount of pasta to make? Fuckin always way too much or too little.

    • lukethenuke

      Jay_Berg pour in bowl then transfer to pot… put less than what a full bowel would be (or 2 or however much you want) cause it obviously gets bigger in water lol

      • Jay_Berg

        That works with like Rotini but spaghetti is a whole other issue. 1st world problems lol

        • Savo43

          Jay_Berg I love havin’ extra noodles kickin around for the next day. Spaghetti sauce is its best a day late anyway.

    • lukethenuke

      Jay_Berg pour in bowl then transfer to pot… put less than what a full bowel would be (or 2 or however much you want) cause it obviously gets bigger in water lol

  • Dangle_My_Berries

    friedman seems to be lurking MLHS as well…

    • Loric76

      Dangle_My_Berries yup totally

  • Loric76

    Friedman just proposed my EXACT idea about the 3-way deal lol

    • Black_Hawk

      Loric76 what was it?

    • Black_Hawk

      Loric76 what was it?

  • whalz

    john Shannon is an idiot,,,,,,,your helping your own team by acquiring a top 3 pick you dumbass!!!

    • Pent_House

      @whalz I was just going to say shannon is a fuckin joke

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      @whalz i know, i hate him , thats why i wouldnt say who was there …..

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      @whalz i know, i hate him , thats why i wouldnt say who was there …..

    • Savo43

      @whalz what’d he say??

      • Loric76

        Savo43 something likes “why would Toronto trade for Lecav only to buy him out?  why would you help out a team your competing against for a playoff spot”

        • Savo43

          Loric76 Savo43 LOL. Guess he doesn’t know GM’s need trading partners, and are actually allowed to do eachother favors in order to both progress going forward. What the rumored deal Loric??

        • Loric76

          Savo43 Loric76 it was about the league blocking Toronto and Tampa from dealing Lecav, if the end result is that Lecav resigns with Tampa after Toronto buys him out.  They didn’t talk about what was being offered, but the rumor is the 3rd overall pick.

        • Savo43

          Loric76 Savo43 Shit, would the league actually block that? Bettman is a retard.

        • Savo43

          canuckintheuk Loric76 Savo43 OoooOooo.

        • Savo43

          canuckintheuk Loric76 Savo43 OoooOooo.

        • Savo43

          canuckintheuk Loric76 Savo43 Nonis needs to call Burkie in Anaheim! Get him to convince Anaheim to sign and trade Vinny back to tbay.

        • canuckintheuk

          Savo43 canuckintheuk Loric76  Things like this actually would increase the entertainment value of the league for Fans.. League should actually recognise this

        • Savo43

          canuckintheuk Savo43 Loric76 Can you sign a UFA, then just trade him though?

        • MaxwellHowe

          canuckintheuk Savo43 Loric76 Its not gonna happen guys.  The NHL head office in Manhatten has decided that the flagship franchise with the largest fan base will simply not be permitted to in any way reward said fanbase for their loyalty by using their huge profits to gain assets and assist a team which should never have existed keep their heads above water.  The NHL just cannot allow any of that

        • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

          MaxwellHowe canuckintheuk Savo43 Loric76 yes they can , that player just cant sign with either team for one full year …

        • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

          MaxwellHowe canuckintheuk Savo43 Loric76 yes they can , that player just cant sign with either team for one full year …

    • Greg Fenton

      @whalz He probably doesn’t expect the Lightning to give up the 3rd overall pick to make a trade happen, and he is probably right.

  • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

    atleast friedman confirmed that bolts are wanting vinny AND malone bought out …… offering malone and a 3rd round pick for a 7th rounder for purpose to buy out malone ……. gotta make vinny7s 30 mil worth that 3rd overall ….

  • lukethenuke

    i like friedman

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      lukethenuke by far my favorite ………love elliot

    • Savo43

      lukethenuke Friedman reports, he’s not so opinionated and bashful like the rest of the media. I like him too.

    • Savo43

      lukethenuke Friedman reports, he’s not so opinionated and bashful like the rest of the media. I like him too.

  • HHT

    I hear Nonis wants to take a page out of Burkie’s book and snag a pair of hot Swedish twins this week.  Of course, then he has to focus on the NHL draft …

  • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

    anyone tell me how much it would be to buy out malone ??? for a 3rd rounder wouldnt really be worth it , but just to set a value ????

    • wendelsfist

      unclejakescards Malone has 5M left on his contract in cash at 9M cap.
      Lecavelier has 44M left on his contract in cash at a 54M cap.
      Based on cash that is 8.8x or 8.8 3rd round picks.

      • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

        wendelsfist unclejakescards so there offering a 3rd rounder for other team to pay 5 mil for buy out ???? proves they dont have or want to spend the cash for any buyouts at all ….

        • wendelsfist

          unclejakescards wendelsfist Yes.  But PHX should be all over this as it lets them claim a cap of 4.5M for two years and only pay 2.5M in real money.

        • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

          wendelsfist unclejakescards dont you think if there offering malone and a 3rd around league for buy out , theyve already offered malone in a trade for next to nothin ??????

    • whalz

      not worth it

  • Xxxxxnew

    Just off TSN
    TSN.ca Staff
    6/26/2013 4:35:24 PM
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    NHL Deputy Commissioner Bill Daly sent out a memo to all 30 teams this week, warning them to play by the book when it comes to buyouts and trades.
    Daly’s memo warned that any trade/buyout/re-acquire scenario would be deemed a circumvention of the collective bargaining agreement. The CBA prevents teams from re-signing players they’ve bought out for one year.
    Earlier this week, The New York Post reported that the Tampa Bay Lightning and Toronto Maple Leafs had talked about a potential deal to send Vincent Lecavalier to Toronto, where the Leafs would get an asset out of that deal in exchange for using their financial might to absorb a buyout on Lecavalier’s contract.
    The Post added that Lecavalier could potentially re-sign with the Lightning at a cheaper rate as an unrestricted free agent. The deal would have got the Lightning out from under Lecavalier’s $7.7 million salary cap hit. The 33-year-old has seven years and $45 million left on his contract. A buyout would pay him $30 million over 14 years.
    Lecavalier signed an eleven-year, $85 million contract with the Lightning prior to the 2009-10 season.

    • Loric76

      Xxxxxnew don’t like it described that way lol

    • phaneufoundlander

      Is Nonis and staff gonna fight this? There must be a way around it?

  • MaxwellHowe

    The Oilers won’t be passing on a big defenseman for another undersized forward.  But good call on the Isles taking Fucale.  They have young prospects at every other position.  As a side note, since I doubt anyone else in the first round would pick Fucale, their first pick might be up for grabs, or at least the Isles could be convinced for the right price to switch their 15 with the Leafs 21

    • Pent_House

      MaxwellHowe NJ would definitely take Fucale

      • wendelsfist

        Pent_House MaxwellHowe NJ should trade down and draft a G and what ever else with a second 1st pick

        • Loric76

          wendelsfist Pent_House MaxwellHowe if they’re smart they trade down for a later 2013 1st and a 2014 1st, since they’ll have to give up their own 2014 1st.

        • Loric76

          wendelsfist Pent_House MaxwellHowe which is what I think you’re saying.  In that case I agree lol

        • Pent_House

          wendelsfist Pent_House MaxwellHowe I think Shinkaruk or Fucale is a done deal for NJ. They could use an offensive forward or a franchise goalie bad.

        • Pent_House

          wendelsfist Pent_House MaxwellHowe I think Shinkaruk or Fucale is a done deal for NJ. They could use an offensive forward or a franchise goalie bad.

        • Black_Hawk

          Pent_House wendelsfist MaxwellHowe how good is shinkaruk?

        • Black_Hawk

          Pent_House wendelsfist MaxwellHowe how good is shinkaruk?

        • Black_Hawk

          Pent_House wendelsfist MaxwellHowe how good is shinkaruk?

        • Pent_House

          Black_Hawk Pent_House wendelsfist MaxwellHowe He’s got really good offensive abilities. Plays wing and centre. Smaller guy at 5’10 though.

        • Black_Hawk

          Pent_House Black_Hawk wendelsfist MaxwellHowe what team does he play for in junior?

    • Savo43

      MaxwellHowe Yeah can’t see Edmonton passing on Nurse.

    • whalz

      see i think the OIL has enough young kids in their lineup that they will look for an established dman to help right away therefor moving that pick

    • daniel marois

      MaxwellHowe 
      Yup.  I don’t see any teams between Isles and Leafs taking Fucale.  So maybe Leafs can make a deal to move up to #15?  But the way Nonis has spoken about moving up, it would be a lot more significant than jumping 5-6 spots.  It would be into the top-10.  But that price is heavy.

  • newkb

    Don’t know if this has been mentioned, but I wonder if the Leafs acquired Vinny and the 3rd overall, but then kept Vinny for a year before buying him out would work?  Hmmm…..  :)

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      newkb maybe, but they would need to make grabbo and liles disappear ….

      • whalz

        liles should be easy to trade

        • newkb

          @whalz Yep, easy enough.

        • newkb

          @whalz Yep, easy enough.

        • newkb

          @whalz Yep, easy enough.

        • newkb

          @whalz Yep, easy enough.

      • newkb

        unclejakescards newkb Trade Komi in return…..as part of the players going from the Leafs.

        • whalz

          i think thats why NONIS hasnt publicly said they WILL buyout KOMI,,,,hes keeping all his cards open…he could always keep him with the Marlies if other teams offer up something decent for buyouts,

        • whalz

          i think thats why NONIS hasnt publicly said they WILL buyout KOMI,,,,hes keeping all his cards open…he could always keep him with the Marlies if other teams offer up something decent for buyouts,

      • newkb

        canuckintheuk unclejakescards newkb With Komi?

      • wendelsfist

        unclejakescards newkb Grabbo back to TBL to replace Lecavlier

      • wendelsfist

        unclejakescards newkb Grabbo back to TBL to replace Lecavlier

      • wendelsfist

        unclejakescards newkb Grabbo back to TBL to replace Lecavlier

      • newkb

        canuckintheuk newkb unclejakescards You don’t want to send too much to Tampa though…..the Leafs are still buying him out and he’s still going to sign with TB again….

      • newkb

        canuckintheuk newkb unclejakescards You don’t want to send too much to Tampa though…..the Leafs are still buying him out and he’s still going to sign with TB again….

    • Loric76

      newkb the way Friedman just described it, if they can’t resign Lecav they’re not interested in trading him.  Despite the financial burden they still rely on his game too much to give him up.

      • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

        Loric76 newkb i think thats crap , there worried about the fans buying tickets ……. they could get someone else for 2nd centre …… its all about the money ……..

      • newkb

        Loric76 newkb They’ll get him back for free in one year….

      • daniel marois

        Loric76 newkb 
        Yup.  That’s why they can’t buy him out only to lose him to UFA status.  Too valuable a piece.  Even with that massive contract.

      • mcloki

        Loric76 newkb Ya sure they do. As tehy sink into an everglade of debt. You made stupid choices TB now is the time to pay the piper. You’re getting off the hook big time. lump it.

        • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

          mcloki Loric76 newkb and this could be their only chance of gettin out of that contract ….. business first and its an ownership decision ….

    • daniel marois

      newkb 
      Yeah but that would be such a wink wink deal with TB – provided TB trusted Tor that much that they would indeed buy him out a year later.

      • newkb

        daniel marois newkb True, but whether the Leafs do buy him out or not, his cap hit is not TB’s responsibility anymore.  Plus Vinny could make it living hell on the Leafs if they don’t do it….if he chose to.

  • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

    fuckit , i hope leafs tell tampa they want the 3rd overall pick or no deal . then tell them if they or anyone else buys out vinny , the leafs would then offer vinny a great deal to come play in leafland ……….

    • lukethenuke

      unclejakescards LOL blackmail them hard i love it

      • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

        lukethenuke unclejakescards why not ? id take vinny here on 3 year 5 mil per , hell maybe even 6 mil per ……

        • 4evrblue

          unclejakescards lukethenuke I would also

    • lukethenuke

      unclejakescards LOL blackmail them hard i love it

    • lukethenuke

      unclejakescards LOL blackmail them hard i love it

  • daniel marois

    Well just read from MacKenzie the Isles have not made a decision yet on Dipietro and Nabakov is heading to free agency.  So, someone needs to play goal.  Hmmm..something has to be brewing there….

    • Loric76

      daniel marois So will Nabokov go to Philly then?

      • daniel marois

        Loric76 daniel marois 
        Who knows.  But don’t they would sign a 38-yr old goalie.  That is why they were pursuing a younger player like Bernier.  But looks like their best bet is signing a goalie as a UFA.

        • Loric76

          daniel marois Loric76 they signed him 2 (3?) years ago before the Isle claimed him off re-entry waiviers, and he’s played well in NY during that time

        • daniel marois

          Loric76 daniel marois 
          Nah.  Don’t see Nabakov coming.  Emery might be a better fit.

      • whalz

        my bet is Emery to Philly

        • Loric76

          @whalz prolly right

        • Cameron19

          @whalz Maybe Thomas.

        • BPsotka

          Cameron19 I think Holmgren may have run out of patience for crazy goalies.

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      daniel marois i bet isles are waitin for lalongo buyout ……

    • Dink

      daniel marois let the Isles buy him out, he is their problem

  • Dink

    lol, let’s get reasonable guys

    • Loric76

      @Dink nope!

    • newkb

      @Dink You ARE on MLHS…..c’mon.

  • Dink

    lol, let’s get reasonable guys

  • Cameron19

    I just want to get something out of these scenarios, at this point.  The key was just to add free assets.  Even if they are lesser assets, like diminishing prospects (ie. Niederreiter), or mid round 1sts, or what have you.  If we can use these situations to replenish or improve the talent we just gave up for Bernier, than we’re good.

    • 4evrblue

      Cameron19 El Nino would be a steal. I don’t think he’s a diminishing prospect at all.

      • McDickey

        4evrblue Cameron19 No, he’s not at all and with the talent we lost we gained. Frattin can be easily replaced in free agency and scrivens was just upgraded. You don’t just find goalies like bernier everyday, Nonis saw an opportunity and jumped on it.

        • Black_Hawk

          McDickey 4evrblue Cameron19 yeah we definitely didnt just lose talent

    • Black_Hawk

      Cameron19 would be nice to see for sure

    • mcloki

      Cameron19 I say play hardball and let the cap crush TB and the Isles. Isles not so much. But TB has a “Get out of Jail FREE” card in their third pick. If they are smart they use is and make it easier on Yzerman to rebuild an aging team around a young sta. Don’t and Yzerman should quit as GM because his hands are tied.

    • MaxwellHowe

      Cameron19 New York Post is reporting that the League’s recent ruling regarding trades-amnesty buyouts – resigning was in response to word that Tb and the TML had reached a Lecavalier trade buyout deal.  Without delving into the unending prickishness of the NHL, this at least demonstrates the Leafs are into this type of deal

      • daniel marois

        MaxwellHowe Cameron19 
        Yes indeed.  Outside the box thinking by Nonis.  If TB deal won’t work, next stop, Long Island.

      • mcloki

        MaxwellHowe Cameron19 So the only part they ha a problem with was the TB buyback of Lecalvalier. TB still has to the do the deal. Financially they need to do it.

        • Pent_House

          mcloki MaxwellHowe Cameron19 Not for sure. They might keep Vinny and just get rid of Malone.

        • mcloki

          Pent_House mcloki MaxwellHowe Cameron19 Still kils them for a very long time. The cap hit on Lecavalier is 7.75 in 2020. He’s the Albatross that TB has to cut from their neck.

        • Cameron19

          Pent_House mcloki MaxwellHowe Cameron19 Malone only has 5 million dollars left owing to him though, over 2 years.  He’s still actually worth what his salary is. They’d be hard-pressed to replace his production for less than 2.5 million per year.  Conversely, many centers can get 50 points behind Stamkos for less than 10 million a year.

        • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

          Cameron19 friedman said they have been shopping malone and a 3rd rounder for a teams 7th rounder to buy him out ……..

        • 4evrblue

          unclejakescards Cameron19 thats the type of buyout I was talking about weeks ago and ppl were calling it ridiculous. good idea but we’ve gone too big with it here.

        • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

          4evrblue unclejakescards Cameron19 its just for some who think they want to keep malone or buy him out themselves . truth is they dont …..

        • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

          4evrblue unclejakescards Cameron19 its just for some who think they want to keep malone or buy him out themselves . truth is they dont …..

        • Cameron19

          unclejakescards Cameron19 Not nearly enough, in my opinion. Look at the Lombardi trade as a measuring stick – it basically cost them a top 4 defensemen to move 5.55 million in salary.  We ate 2 years of Lombardi at 3.5 million (with the assumption that he was done), and they took back Lebda’s last year at 1.45 million, for a net savings of 5.55 million. In exchange we got Franson.

          A 3rd round pick has about a 6% chance of making the NHL.  It’s a joke of an offer, even though it is a high 3rd rounder.

        • Black_Hawk

          Cameron19 unclejakescards yeah that really is. They would have to offer up more imo.

        • Black_Hawk

          Cameron19 unclejakescards yeah that really is. They would have to offer up more imo.

        • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

          Cameron19 unclejakescards haha, i hear ya, i just see it as being a bit over greedy …. lolol

        • Cameron19

          unclejakescards Cameron19 I would buyout Malone for them if they gave us Aulie back.

        • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

          Cameron19 unclejakescards sure i would tooo

    • McDickey

      Cameron19 You do understand that we only gave up Frattin from a talent standpoint. We have lots of players that can fill in his shoes. One name that comes to mind right away is Colbourne. But IMO Nonis plans to fill the void through free agency and not trade. Frattin didn’t fit the mould and Nonis is going to try and add grit and toughness in the top 6 / top 9

      • 4evrblue

        McDickey Cameron19 I rate Frattin a little higher than you I think. He had potential of his own. 20-25 goals, 20-25 assists isn’t out of the question for him IMO

        • McDickey

          4evrblue McDickey Cameron19 So he would be a Macarthur or Grabovski basically whom most want traded..lol I liked Frattin as much as the next person but at the end of the day he will most likely be a third liner. We now have depth in goal and I personally think it will benefit Reimer and Bernier as they will be pushing each other as where Scrivens offered little competition. People also forget that Frattin and Scrivens are 25 it isn’t like their young prospects. I personally would take the security in the net as we have plenty of young players coming up in the system but no goalies. Do you really want to bank the future all on Reimer.

        • 4evrblue

          McDickey 
          4evrblue scrivens has potential too, this was a great trade for LA. They need depth for playoff runs and a backup goalie they can trust. They got exactly what they need and both player have the potential to be better than they currently are. Bernier has MORE potential and thats what makes it a win for us if he reaches it. I just don’t like how people are basically bashing these two players now that they aren’t leafs anymore, when they were here people seemed to think they were very valuable assets……. what happened?

      • Cameron19

        McDickey Cameron19 I didn’t say it to knock the Bernier trade, but the fact is, we now have fewer assets to peddle in trades.  If we could recoup them, or improve on them, we’d be in better shape to make more acquisitions like Bernier.  As for Frattin not fitting the mold, I don’t think that’s the case at all.

        • McDickey

          Cameron19 McDickey Unfortunatly you have to give to get and Nonis wanted Bernier. As for giving up assets we still have lots of picks , lots of prospects and lots of roster players that can be used in trades. I hardly think that Frattin is the be all end all for getting a future deal done.

        • McDickey

          Cameron19 McDickey Unfortunatly you have to give to get and Nonis wanted Bernier. As for giving up assets we still have lots of picks , lots of prospects and lots of roster players that can be used in trades. I hardly think that Frattin is the be all end all for getting a future deal done.

        • McDickey

          Cameron19 McDickey If it isn’t the case then why is he gone. lol

        • Cameron19

          McDickey Cameron19 Did I say he was? I’m simply saying we have fewer assets today than we did the day before the Bernier trade. It doesn’t matter how much you like Bernier or hat Frattin, that is just a fact.  We may have prospects and picks to peddle still, but we have fewer of them.  We need more chips like Frattin who are NHL ready and expendable – not less. If we can reacquire them by taking on buyouts, lets fuckin’ do it.  This has nothing to do with my opinion on the quality of the Bernier trade, so there is no need to be so sensitive about it.

        • Cameron19

          McDickey Cameron19 Did I say he was? I’m simply saying we have fewer assets today than we did the day before the Bernier trade. It doesn’t matter how much you like Bernier or hat Frattin, that is just a fact.  We may have prospects and picks to peddle still, but we have fewer of them.  We need more chips like Frattin who are NHL ready and expendable – not less. If we can reacquire them by taking on buyouts, lets fuckin’ do it.  This has nothing to do with my opinion on the quality of the Bernier trade, so there is no need to be so sensitive about it.

        • Cameron19

          McDickey Cameron19 Did I say he was? I’m simply saying we have fewer assets today than we did the day before the Bernier trade. It doesn’t matter how much you like Bernier or hat Frattin, that is just a fact.  We may have prospects and picks to peddle still, but we have fewer of them.  We need more chips like Frattin who are NHL ready and expendable – not less. If we can reacquire them by taking on buyouts, lets fuckin’ do it.  This has nothing to do with my opinion on the quality of the Bernier trade, so there is no need to be so sensitive about it.

    • Loric76

      Cameron19 According to Friedman it sounds like there’s a fallback scenario if the Vinny thing doesn’t work out.  TB is also shopping Malone for buyout, and offering a 3rd for it.  Sounds like Edmonton is doing the same with Horcoff.

    • Loric76

      Cameron19 According to Friedman it sounds like there’s a fallback scenario if the Vinny thing doesn’t work out.  TB is also shopping Malone for buyout, and offering a 3rd for it.  Sounds like Edmonton is doing the same with Horcoff.

      • Black_Hawk

        Loric76 Cameron19 i would do both the TB and EDM one. having the 3rd, 7th, and 21st would be sweet. And we cud probably jump up to 1st with the 3rd+7th or 21st

        • Loric76

          Black_Hawk Loric76 Cameron19 they’re not offering the 3rd overall for Malone lol…their 3rd round pick, 93rd overall.  Dunno what Edmonton is offering

        • Black_Hawk

          Loric76 Black_Hawk Cameron19 oh than no thanks lol. I would still do the lecav deal

        • Black_Hawk

          Loric76 Black_Hawk Cameron19 oh than no thanks lol. I would still do the lecav deal

  • Loric76

    so what happens if salary is retained when a player is traded, and then the player is bought out.  Does the team that retained a portion of the salary have to pay that portion of the buyout, or is the team that buys the player out accountable for the whole buyout amount?
    Thinking along the lines of newkb’s idea where we trade for Vinny but keep him for the season and buy him out next summer, what if TB retained 3m of his salary for the year so that we could make Vinny fit cap wise?  What happens when the time comes to buy him out next summer?

    • Pent_House

      Loric76 That’s a really far-fetched situation.

      • Loric76

        Pent_House Loric76 not really…forget about the Vinny scenario for a sec.  Think about any player that’s been traded since the start of this past season, and what happens if that player were bought out…which team is on the hook for the buyout amount?

        • Pent_House

          Loric76 Pent_House I’m pretty sure the team buying out the contact, would only be responsible for the salary that they are paying. The team that retained the salary would go on paying that salary.

        • Loric76

          Pent_House Loric76 guess that makes sense

  • Dink

    Leaf owners got a lot of money, but they ain’t stupid

    • Dink

      Can see Nonis and the owners meeting…
      Nonis: Tampa wants to trade us their 3rd pick and Lecavalier
      Owners: Great !! For What?
      Nonis: Our pick and Grabovski 
      Owners: Do it !
      Nonis: Oh, BTW we have to buy Lecavalier out in 48 hours for 50 million
      Owners: Looking for a  new job soon Dave?

  • Bobsyouruncle

    TSN   
    “Colorado Avalanche director of amateur scouting Richard Pracey didn’t sway from discussions about the team’s plans at Sunday’s NHL Entry Draft, saying that the team is leaning towards Halifax Mooseheads forward Nathan MacKinnon with the first overall pick.”    
    I’ve been wondering who, from the Colorado organization, would make the next proclamation that they are planning on taking MacKinnon with the 1st overall. Expect the trainer and stick boy to re-re-re-confirm it later in the week.

    • Black_Hawk

      Bobsyouruncle lol at least they said it before hand this year so we dont have to speculate. OR they might be using the rumour as trade bait

  • Bobsyouruncle

    TSN   
    “Colorado Avalanche director of amateur scouting Richard Pracey didn’t sway from discussions about the team’s plans at Sunday’s NHL Entry Draft, saying that the team is leaning towards Halifax Mooseheads forward Nathan MacKinnon with the first overall pick.”    
    I’ve been wondering who, from the Colorado organization, would make the next proclamation that they are planning on taking MacKinnon with the 1st overall. Expect the trainer and stick boy to re-re-re-confirm it later in the week.

  • rustynail

    https://twitter.com/DavidAlter590https://twitter.com/DavidAlter590/status/350012132483547136
    So Colangelo steps down as President of Biz and Team Ops for Raptors and will strictly be a consultant for MLSE… End of Controversy?

    • Black_Hawk

      rustynail he did?

    • Black_Hawk

      rustynail he did?

      • newkb

        Black_Hawk rustynail Him and Burke could have played Go Fish…..

  • B_Leaf

    If this Lecavalier deal was legit, I cant see TB walking away just because they can’t get him back for a year. I mean how valuble is Vinny at this point for a year. If they need the salary eaten by Toronto I’m sure we can work something out for that third overall pick…that is a real prize…Leafs should go hard after it.

    • Black_Hawk

      B_Leaf i think so too. We cud send back grabo if they want to replace lecav that badley

    • daniel marois

      B_Leaf 
      Not happening now that League nixed the earlier scenerio.  That was the only way Tor could have gotten that 3rd overall pick.

      • 4evrblue

        daniel marois B_Leaf you don’t know that for sure

      • mcloki

        daniel marois B_Leaf The only thing they say is not legit is resigning Lecavalier. The other buyout deal is fine. And i’d still do it. Drouin would look good.

        • 4evrblue

          mcloki daniel marois B_Leaf B_Leaf is right, if they were willing to trade the 3rd to get rid of Vinny then they wouldn’t hold back now.

        • 4evrblue

          mcloki daniel marois B_Leaf B_Leaf is right, if they were willing to trade the 3rd to get rid of Vinny then they wouldn’t hold back now.

        • 4evrblue

          mcloki daniel marois B_Leaf B_Leaf is right, if they were willing to trade the 3rd to get rid of Vinny then they wouldn’t hold back now.

        • J_hardt

          mcloki daniel marois B_Leaf I’d hope for some reason that Jones falls to 3rd. He would look good in a leafs uniform.

        • B_Leaf

          exactly mc

        • B_Leaf

          exactly mc

      • B_Leaf

        daniel marois B_Leaf 
        Why?

      • Black_Hawk

        daniel marois B_Leaf man the league should just mind there own buisness. Its like Bud selig almost nixing the Jays deal in the summer with MIA. If both teams want to do the deal then stay out of it.

      • Black_Hawk

        daniel marois B_Leaf man the league should just mind there own buisness. Its like Bud selig almost nixing the Jays deal in the summer with MIA. If both teams want to do the deal then stay out of it.

    • Pent_House

      B_Leaf I don’t think TBay still does the deal if they can’t re-sign Vinny. They still need him in their line-up. They’ll probably buy-out Malone and that’s it.

  • rustynail

    https://twitter.com/jonmorosihttps://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/350011063242211328
    The Blue Jays’ current record (39-38) would be good enough for SECOND place in the NL East.

    • Black_Hawk

      rustynail too bad both TOR teams were stuck in the best divisions in both the mlb and nhl

    • Bobsyouruncle

      rustynail And they STILL wouldn’t have a Wild card spot.

      • rustynail

        Bobsyouruncle rustynail details

  • TOHockeyNut

    If the Hawks are allowed to buy out Hossa from one of the biggest front loaded contracts as an amnesty buy out then anything should be allowed. The Hawks have now won 2 Stanley Cups through CAP circumvention  and to not have them pay down the road is criminal compares to what was proposed in the TO Tampa potential deal.

    • Black_Hawk

      TOHockeyNut straight up bro

      • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

        Black_Hawk TOHockeyNut great point …

    • Black_Hawk

      TOHockeyNut straight up bro

  • Wilbur

    Is the 3rd overall pick worth our 21st overall and 30 million in Vinny buy-out dollars?

    • newkb

      Wilbur Nope.  Unless a bad contract went back.

      • B_Leaf

        newkb Wilbur 
        Its worth it if it takes us an extra round in the playoffs twice over his career.

        • newkb

          B_Leaf newkb Wilbur I just don’t think the Leafs should have to give up their first round pick to stroke a 30 million dollar cheque.  Not unless a bad contract goes back….

        • newkb

          B_Leaf newkb Wilbur I just don’t think the Leafs should have to give up their first round pick to stroke a 30 million dollar cheque.  Not unless a bad contract goes back….

        • Bobsyouruncle

          B_Leaf newkb Wilbur Then he retires and we get stuck with cap recapture?

        • newkb

          Bobsyouruncle B_Leaf newkb Wilbur Always wondered who gets stuck with recapture once a player is traded several times…..

        • Wilbur

          Bobsyouruncle B_Leaf newkb Wilbur There’s no cap restructure if he retires after a compliance buy-out. Maybe I’m misunderstanding what you’re saying?

        • Bobsyouruncle

          Wilbur Bobsyouruncle B_Leaf newkb When B_Leaf said “if it takes us an extra round in the playoffs twice OVER HIS CAREER” it made it sound like we keep Vinny.

      • B_Leaf

        newkb Wilbur 
        Its worth it if it takes us an extra round in the playoffs twice over his career.

    • Black_Hawk

      Wilbur depends on the tb owner point of view not our. Personally i wud say yes.

    • Dink

      Wilbur no and I would be very concerned with ownership that would approve that

      • Pent_House

        @Dink Wilbur You wouldn’t want the Leafs to do that?

      • Pent_House

        @Dink Wilbur You wouldn’t want the Leafs to do that?

      • rustynail

        @Dink Wilbur why you do realize 1/2 round in th eplayoffs makes more cash than Vinny buy out per years

      • newkb

        @Dink Wilbur Why?  Not your cash, and that shows an ownership that is willing to do everything to win…

        • Dink

          newkb Wilbur Sounds like Buffalo a couple years ago..

        • Dink

          newkb Wilbur Sounds like Buffalo a couple years ago..

        • newkb

          @Dink newkb Wilbur But it doesn’t affect anything in the grand scheme of things…..screw Buffalo.

        • newkb

          @Dink newkb Wilbur But it doesn’t affect anything in the grand scheme of things…..screw Buffalo.

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      Wilbur it is if they take grabbo or komi back …… done deal…..

    • wendelsfist

      Wilbur How many players can return 30M over the next 7 years of Vinny’s contract.  I draft pick might but that draft pick is more like a lotto ticket.

    • Loric76

      Wilbur yes, since the 30m is spread over 14 years…that’s basically the beer profits from one extra playoff game per year

    • Loric76

      Wilbur yes, since the 30m is spread over 14 years…that’s basically the beer profits from one extra playoff game per year

    • Loric76

      Wilbur yes, since the 30m is spread over 14 years…that’s basically the beer profits from one extra playoff game per year

    • Loric76

      Wilbur yes, since the 30m is spread over 14 years…that’s basically the beer profits from one extra playoff game per year

    • Wilbur

      As a fan I completely ignore the money (it’s not mine) and strictly look at the trade of a 21st for 3rd. That’s a no-brainer. As an owner I see the cash but I see it as spread across 14 years at 2+million per year. That’s a no-brainer. For sure I’d do it for Seth Jones. Not sure TBay would do it but they do get a 1st out of it and out from under the contract. They just won’t get Vinny back and that might be to hard for them to take.