Thursday Morning Mashup: Letang Prefers Toronto?

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I think we can all agree that Leafs TV should have produced a PSA, prior to the off-season, indicating how to use an inflatable life-jacket.  Buckle-up, people.

GMs have now had some time to get a handle on the new reality created by the CBA. With the draft a little over 72 hours away, the rumours are abound and fans from every team will have their ears to the ground.

Yesterday, more news broke that the Leafs and Lightning were talking over a potential deal that got the league’s panties in a knot. Alec had it covered in this article.

Last night on TSN 1050 Game Night, Rob Rossi, a writer from the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, joined Jim Tatti and Mike Hogan to talk about his thoughts on Kris Letang’s future.  Here’s what went down:

What’s your read on what’s happening in Pittsburgh?

I should stress that these things change potentially minute-by-minute, but the latest information I have is the Kris is a little bit curious about where he stands long-range in the Penguins’ plans. He’s read reports of mine that there are people within the organization that thought Paul Martin was the better defenseman last year and that there has been sort of a hesitation on a willingness to commit to him long-term at elite defenseman money.”

How does Toronto factor into this?

“Now, I should stress clearly that GM Ray Shero has been very public since the lock-out ended that he wanted to retain Kris Letang, but the Penguins have committed a lot of money to Crosby and Malkin, they’ve also committed NMCs to both of those players. They’re very deep in their system on defense and I’ve been told that if the Penguins couldn’t reach some sort of understanding with Letang, that Toronto has emerged as a preferred landing spot perhaps by Letang.”

How much would Pittsburgh ask for?

“It would be a place he’d be willing, if dealt, to perhaps sign a long-term deal and I know that the Penguins are going to want to deal with a team that can provide at least one roster player, in addition to a first round draft pick and a top prospect, if not two roster players. “

“They’re not looking to just get a third or a fourth line potential guy, they’d like to get roster players under contract that they think could fit in. The Leafs, over the years, have drafted players with great speed and that’s something the Penguins do – get faster – in addition to having guys under contract.”

Have the Leafs and Penguins talked?

“I don’t know that the Penguins and Leafs have had any discussions.”

If both parties can’t come to an agreement, what wold be the fallout?

“I believe that there would be a fairly intense bidding war for Kris Letang. We’re probably talking about the premier player that will be trying to negotiate a new contract, with the possibility of being traded in terms of the first guy to do that under the new CBA. The Penguins would only move him if they thought there would be significant return.”

How is this situation different from Jordan Staal’s situation last year?

“Now, the difference between the Letang and Staal situations was Staal told the Penguins that he wasn’t interested in signing a long-term deal because he wanted to go to FA, or he wanted to play for Carolina.”

“Letang has not told the Penguins that yet, and I can tell you his preference right now is to still try to work our something with the Penguins. This is where he wants to be, but he is at least considering where his other options could be in terms of where he wants to raise a young family.”

Why Toronto?

“Kris is used to playing a pretty big role on a high profile team, certainly a team like Toronto, especially with a coach like Randy Carlyle. I think Carlyle would suit Letang well if that was a fit. So, I think there are a lot of reasons why Letang would like the Maple Leafs if something doesn’t work out with Pittsburgh.”

What is your outlook for the Penguins’ roster?

“Eventually, Pittsburgh is going to have some sort of roster overhaul and it will probably be more obvious on defense. Pittsburgh is really among the deepest teams in terms of top-end prospects at the back-end. Now, that said, it’s my understanding that they’re interested in signing Orpik [and Despres] to extensions.”

Would they hold on to Letang?

“I do think there is a chance that Pittsburgh could hold on to Letang through the draft weekend. I don’t think they feel there is a player out there that they love so much that they have to go get a draft pick. There is, in Pittsburgh, an interest to see what the buyouts and [the draft] do to the NHL landscape.”

“The one thing I know about the Penguins is that there are only two untouchable players, Crosby and Malkin. One of the things that I think you’ll see in Pittsburgh, in coming years, is that eventually those guys will have to carry some younger players who might have talent but great inexperience. [Contrast this with] what’s been a fairly veteran group those two have played with for the first half of their careers.”

Why do some within the organization consider that Martin had a better season than Letang?

“Paul Martin had great metrics when you look at shut-down defensmen, he played more against top competition. That said, I don’t think they mean to say that Letang was a poor player last year and maybe they viewed that Martin gave them a little bit more consistency.”

“Letang, if you look at the metrics is about a top-70 players at his position in terms of the defensive defensemen. He is a number one, by most measures, when you look at offense, especially creating offense. Most of [Letang’s] shifts end up in the other team’s zone. Among players who played 30 games last year, Letang was 2nd in his position in terms of  the shot-attempted differential. I think Kris Letang is a future Norris Trophy winner and a guy who replaced Jordan Staal as the number 3 of the Penguins’ the Big 3.”

What do the Penguins think of Letang?

“The Penguins know that Letang stands to make a lot of money on the open market. In a salary cap system, it’s really tough to pay three players potentially upwards of $7M a year. Kris Letang, at $3.75M a year, is a tremendous bargain.”

“So, can you commit to a long-term deal at major money for Letang and win a championship? I don’t know if the Penguins feel comfortable with that.  I think they’d like to see him score fewer points, but be a little bit sounder defensively. ” 

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What do you guys think?

Would Letang be a good fit, and worth the price (both his acquisition, and the price of his new contract), given the Leafs have Gardiner and Rielly in the system? Would you give up one of those two + a roster player + a high pick to make this happen?

Have fun with this one…

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Morning Links:

Tevez Owens: Patrick Kane parties with a unicorn head (PICS)Best believe that this kid is running Chicago right now.

Backhand Shelf: HometownThe Hawks weren’t always as visible as they are now and it sounds like they had their own version of Harold Ballard.

Larry Brooks (NYP): Leafs & Lightning, Buyouts, and CBA CircumventionBrooksie bursting our creative, speculative bubbles. He might have been the first to report on this.

Friedman (CBC): 30 Thoughts, NHL buyouts no sure thingICYMI, #12 is encouraging.

Siegel (TSN): Inside the Maple Leafs Draft ProcessMust read, Leafs fans.

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A graduate student at Columbia University, Aaron is defined by a love of nature, an intense interest in finance, and a passion for the Blue & White. Toronto born and raised, earliest Leaf memories include emulating Joe Bowen calls and carpet mini-stick during HNIC. Former D1 NCAA Tennis player. Aaron can be found on Twitter at https://twitter.com/mapleleafmuse.
  • mapleleafmuse

    Good morning gents

    • Burtonboy

      mapleleafmuseMorning Aaron. Interesting all of a sudden a lot of guys wanna play in Toronto eh. Bernier seemed super excited and now this Letang stuff. Times have changed and players are talking notice. I’ve said for over a yr this team is further ahead then its givne credit for. The players know something a lot of others seem to not want to admit ?

    • Mind Bomb

      mapleleafmuse  Morning Aaron

      • mapleleafmuse

        Good morning MB and BB. I think you’re right and it seems like an awakening of sorts for MLSE. Maybe players see that something good is happening here and it’s something they want to be involved with.

        • Burtonboy

          mapleleafmuse Starting to look that way . Nash ans Richards can suck it lol

        • Mind Bomb

          Burtonboy mapleleafmuse Winning is one thing, The Isles won last year to, I think the Leafs have assembled a Young core of Elite talent, other players see the potential for a Cup. Now we just have to be very careful with who we over pay for :)

        • mapleleafmuse

          Nash would have been sweet but those two players are water under the bridge. What’s your take on this? Would you do it?

        • Burtonboy

          mapleleafmuse Its worth looking into for sure if the Pens can’t re-sign him. Man there’s a lot of stuff to consider to make that move though. Cap ,cost to acquire, and does he fit into what we are trying to build considering we have Gardiner and Reilly already .

        • mapleleafmuse

          You know what I found interesting, how Rossi cited zone starts, QoC, and Corsi metrics in his evaluation of Letang. The Leafs have some nice pieces assembled and a winning team is taking shape. I think Bell and Rogers are intent on making the Leafs championship-calibre right now. Let’s also not forget window of opportunity we have given how old Kessel and Lupul are.

        • Mind Bomb

          Burtonboy mapleleafmuse  I think he does BB. It did not hurt Chicago with all those Puck movers 😉
          its the Cost to acquire !

        • Burtonboy

          Mind Bomb Burtonboy mapleleafmuse You would be foolish not to a tleast take a look at this

        • Mind Bomb

          Burtonboy Mind Bomb mapleleafmuse Aye bro, but at first glance Pit may want a Forward, and I dont Think a UFA Kulie is going to get it done, we have Colburne and a 1st as trade bait.
          Think Kulie, Colburne and a 1st. ???

        • Burtonboy

          Mind Bomb Burtonboy mapleleafmuse They want speed accordingto Rossi .Would they be interested in Grabo +

        • Mind Bomb

          Burtonboy Mind Bomb mapleleafmuse To much CAp to them for a 3rd line center, although with the amount of Injuries that Crysby and Malkin have getting a another Center wouldnt hurt, like say Kadri. It would suck if Kadri was the starting point to Conversations lol

        • Mind Bomb

          Burtonboy Mind Bomb mapleleafmuse To much CAp to them for a 3rd line center, although with the amount of Injuries that Crysby and Malkin have getting a another Center wouldnt hurt, like say Kadri. It would suck if Kadri was the starting point to Conversations lol

  • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ Radar O’Rielly

    Wait a year and sign him as a UFA.

  • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ Radar O’Rielly

    Wait a year and sign him as a UFA.

  • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ Radar O’Rielly

    Good Morning Everyone

    • Mind Bomb

      Radar O’Rielly  Morning Mr R.

  • JMAC17

    Getting him would be great, but it would trigger a pretty major overhaul of the team.
    Kadri, Loops, JVR, Gardner, Reilly all need to be with this team.  Everyone else is fair game to me.
    Although trading Dion would be a mistake IMO, Letang doesnt replace him.

  • KurtWhite

    Id like to change my vote for best leaf of all time on the side of the page to kris letang

  • Dink

    You got to remember he plays with best offence in the league garnishing his points..I think he would have a hard time on another team but you never know…

    His big money raise may be entirely on who he plays with…

    • Dink

      I also believe any deal would have to include Reimer (Pittsburghs goalies are fading)

      • Dink

        -Keon- I think Penguins have always wanted Kulemin too..
        so Kulemin, Reimer and a 2nd is probably what they are looking at…

    • Dink

      I also believe any deal would have to include Reimer (Pittsburghs goalies are fading)

  • Mind Bomb

    -Keon-  Lol, everyone in Quebec has a collective whine, after reading that about Letang choosing the leafs, MTL not even mentioned. 
    Gotta be PK, no one wants to play with him lol

    • Mind Bomb

      -Keon-  But its pretty simple really, Letang just wants to play and Learn from the Best so he chose Phaneuf to Buddy up to. 
      Good Choice Kris

    • Mind Bomb

      -Keon- Ya, what he said Frog fans !

  • Maple Leafs Creed

    https://twitter.com/RenLavoieRDS
    If Kris Letang has to be traded by Penguins, he does NOT have a preferred destination. https://twitter.com/search?q=%23RDS&src=hash
    https://twitter.com/search?q=%23RDS&src=hash
    Sounds like this Habs reporter is jealous that Letang doesn’t wanna go to the Habs

    • Mind Bomb

      Maple Leafs Creed  Hahhah New it, here we go, perfect time to go to the Hab Boards :)

    • Uncle Otis

      Maple Leafs Creed 
      I guess Lavoie only searched the French Google  for news.
      En Anglais…quelle surprise tabernac!

    • Cameron19

      Maple Leafs Creed And Jordan Staal didn’t prefer to play with Eric, either.

  • Dink

    You guys really think Letang is worth the money he is looking for?

    • Mind Bomb

      @Dink  The Money, yes. Chicago looked good with all kinds of Mobility on the Back end. Now I am against the Cost to aquire in a trade UJC, Yikes.

  • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

    mornin boys , dont really believe this letang stuff ,,,,, with kadri franson gunnar due new deals and raises this year , then dion and phil , kulemin gardiner reimer next year with letang ????? be pretty tough cap wise , especially if letang is wanting 7 + mil per …..

    • Cameron19

      unclejakescards And being doubted by his current franchise the same way our fan base doubts Dion.

      • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

        Cameron19 unclejakescards hay, i dont doubt dion …… hes leafs best defenseman , without him , we suck …….again .lololol …… and you cant trade dion to bring in letang …….just dumb.

  • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

    mornin boys , dont really believe this letang stuff ,,,,, with kadri franson gunnar due new deals and raises this year , then dion and phil , kulemin gardiner reimer next year with letang ????? be pretty tough cap wise , especially if letang is wanting 7 + mil per …..

  • B_Leaf

    I am a Kris Letang fan, but the cost would probably sway me out of this deal. It can be argued that Gardiner straight up is too much. You have to project where Gards will be. If Gards plays in 80 games at 20+ minutes a night, with some PP time, I expect he has a breakout year statistically. Defensively I think he is really close to being sound too, I have never viewed him as a defensive problem other than when he was coming back from injury. Gards may project better defensively than Letang. If not for the concussion this year Gardiner very well may have put up a really good year and we wouldn’t be having this discussion. I still think we need to let our team grow with internal improvement to see what exactly we have. Letang is a star already but his cap hit will prevent us from doing other things as soon as next year. Letang would make a great partner for Phaneuf though.
    A cost I would consider is our first this year, Finn, and Gunnarson. It works for the cap for Pitt, it gives them a first in a strong draft, it gives them a good prospect, and Gunnarsson is a solid top four guy. 
    Letang Phaneuf
    Gardiner Franson
    Fraser Holzer
    Blacker

    • Cameron19

      B_Leaf I think they’d be more interested in forwards anyways. They have lots in the system for defenders: Maata, Harrington, Pouliot, Despres.

      • Burtonboy

        Cameron19 B_Leaf Exactly what Rossi said

        • Cameron19

          Burtonboy Cameron19 B_Leaf Unfortunately, we’re getting kind of thin there pretty quickly.

        • Cameron19

          Burtonboy Cameron19 B_Leaf Unfortunately, we’re getting kind of thin there pretty quickly.

      • B_Leaf

        Cameron19 B_Leaf 
        True, but they can draft who they want, Gunnarsson fills Letang, and Finn is quality,.

      • B_Leaf

        Cameron19 B_Leaf 
        True, but they can draft who they want, Gunnarsson fills Letang, and Finn is quality,.

      • MaxwellHowe

        Cameron19 B_Leaf They would want Kulimen.  Not that I beleive any deal like this would happen, or even should happen, but Letang and Vokuon for Kulimen and Reimer might be the direction.  Not sure hoiw the works out in capgeek, but I don’t really care because LeTang is always injured and not worth it.

        • B_Leaf

          MaxwellHowe Cameron19 B_Leaf 
          The answer is no.

    • Cameron19

      B_Leaf I think they’d be more interested in forwards anyways. They have lots in the system for defenders: Maata, Harrington, Pouliot, Despres.

    • Dink

      B_Leaf  well I think its obvious that a Letang trade would almost guarantee Gardiner or Franson would have to be dealt, maybe Phaneuf too depending on if they can get some toughness

      • Cameron19

        @Dink B_Leaf Why would it guarantee that?

      • Cameron19

        @Dink B_Leaf Why would it guarantee that?

  • mcloki

    Morning Gents. 
    This Letang thing is interesting. 
    If Nonis could convince guys to each take .5 less they could have the cap room to surround everyone with a really solid core of people. This is unlike any summer before. It could get real interesting.

    • Mind Bomb

      mcloki Morning MC 
      Go Nonis, Go Nonis !

  • http://twitter.com/jmckelvie RielledUp

    Renaud Lavoie ‏@RenLavoieRDS 7mIf Kris Letang has to be traded by Penguins, he does NOT have a preferred destination. #RDS

  • Biltmore

    Wait a year and go after him as a FA. I’m still mad that Frattin’s gone, no way do I want to see Gardiner, Kulemin, Reilly or anyone else walk out the door.

    • daniel marois

      Biltmore 
      The bidding war when when he goes to UFA would be insane.  He would possibly cost more cap wise by then.

    • B_Leaf

      Biltmore 
      I totally agree…I really think our internal improvement will be significant if we leave it here…I too am crapped out over frattin gone.

  • Dink

    Anyways this is exactly what Letangs agent wanted, put it out there and watch Penguins squirm
    I really doubt it will happen

    • daniel marois

      @Dink 
      Agreed.

  • http://twitter.com/jmckelvie RielledUp

    https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenziehttps://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/350226197231312896
    Kris Letang’s agent Kent Hughes on reports their preferred destination is TOR: “We haven’t discussed the Toronto Maple Leafs. Period…

    • Burtonboy

      RielledUp Always happens when something get s leaked that shouldn’t have been lol

    • daniel marois

      RielledUp 
      I guess there you go.  Perhaps Pitt will wait to negotiate his contract going into next season.

      • http://twitter.com/jmckelvie RielledUp

        daniel marois RielledUp You guys can take your Gardiner jerseys off ebay now.

        • daniel marois

          RielledUp daniel marois 
          Ha!  I thought a deal for Letang was far fetched anyways.  But I think a much greater chance Phaneuf goes than Letang coming here.

        • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

          RielledUp daniel marois hahaha, i gotta few nice gardiner rookie cards ….. fuckers better not trade him ….. kadri too !!!!

  • rickpearce76

    Id be willing to bet that the agent or someone in his camp threw toronto into the media because they knew the stir it would create and put pressure on Shero. I have doubts that this is legit.

  • rickpearce76

    Id be willing to bet that the agent or someone in his camp threw toronto into the media because they knew the stir it would create and put pressure on Shero. I have doubts that this is legit.

  • mcloki

    we’re being used people.

    • MaxwellHowe

      mcloki Agreed. The reasoning for LeTang wanting to play with Toronto, as listed above, are weak and silly.  Carlyle would suit LeTang well?  Pfff….

      • mcloki

        MaxwellHowe mcloki Detroit is where Letang will end up. They have the need and the cap to do it.

      • Dink

        MaxwellHowe mcloki surprised TSN even printed this crud

        • mcloki

          @Dink MaxwellHowe mcloki Drives traffic for TSN. What do they care. Sports rumours are just a product they schlock. As long as there are hits great. Oh look Ryan prefers Toronto now as well.

  • B_Leaf

    My guess with the Letang thing is that this is being stirred up by Shero. He wants to see if Nonis is willing to part with another young affordable player on the rise.

    • Cameron19

      B_Leaf I think it’s being stirred up by Letang and his agent.

      • Burtonboy

        Cameron19 B_Leaf I would say so ..definetly

        • Cameron19

          Burtonboy Cameron19 B_Leaf But I like his effort to make it seem otherwise by calling up fathead this morning. “Wasn’t us!”

        • Cameron19

          Burtonboy Cameron19 B_Leaf But I like his effort to make it seem otherwise by calling up fathead this morning. “Wasn’t us!”

        • Burtonboy

          Cameron19 Burtonboy B_Leaf Thats the chess game of Negotiations eh. . Just like the Phaneuef rumors. Leafs putting pressure on the agents to come down in price

  • Burtonboy

    TEAM 1200 ‏@TEAM1200Ottawa 58s
    The Penguins have extended LW Chris Kunitz for 3 years.

    • Dink

      Burtonboy  wow at 8 in the morning lol

      • daniel marois

        @Dink Burtonboy 
        Ha!  I was thinking the same thing!  So Kunitz signed before Letang???

        • phaneufoundlander

          Yip, a kick in the guts to Tanger…he is gonna be moved !!!

    • Cameron19

      Burtonboy Shouldn’t they worry about next year’s roster first and foremost?

      • Mind Bomb

        Cameron19 Burtonboy  Letang just swore in his Cherios, The old Boy gets a contract and I dont, Piss on it I am a Leaf !

    • Cameron19

      -Keon- And the extension doesn’t start till the year after.

    • Mind Bomb

      -Keon- Still not an over 35 though, Kuntz still looked pretty good last year

      • Cameron19

        -Keon- What was the rush?  Why not re-evaluate Kunitz at the end of next season?

      • Mind Bomb

        -Keon-  He tied Phil Kessel for points.

      • Mind Bomb

        Cameron19 -Keon-  TO get the contract signed pre 35, so that when he retires they dont take a cap hit ?

      • -Keon-

        Fluke season, the many years before that were just average

      • Mind Bomb

        -Keon-  Funny how Crosby can effect your stats :)

      • MaxwellHowe

        Mind Bomb -Keon- Kessel would have doubled his point total playing with Crisby or Malkin

      • phaneufoundlander

        Go Leafs, fuck em all

  • Burtonboy

    https://twitter.com/MolinariPG
    Person familiar with Kunitz deal says his salary will be “a bit more than current but less than $4 million” against salary cap.

  • -Keon-

    Testosterone levels just peaking this morning, had some breakfast, starting to calm down now

  • Burtonboy

    The re- signings and possibly trades could get nuts in the next couple of days .

  • Dink

    Well that stopped all the Lecavalier talk (for awhile anyway)

    • Cameron19

      @Dink lol, And then literally the next post above…

      • mcloki

        Cameron19 that’s because teh compliance buyout has at least a snowlballs chance in hell of happening. Let’s just say that the first 10 draft picks all Leaf fans are going to be waiting to hear Bettman say “We have a trade to Announce”

  • daniel marois

    I still like the idea of trading for a bad contract and gaining a significant asset(s) and then burn a compliance buyout vs. trading for Letang.  Just ’cause I think Letang coming here is a hoax.

  • Mind Bomb

    @UJC  
    Remember our Convo a couple of days ago
     

    http://www.livefyre.com/profile/_up15691514@livefyre.com/ http://www.livefyre.com/profile/_up15400422@livefyre.com/ http://www.livefyre.com/profile/_up15445696@livefyre.com/ http://www.livefyre.com/profile/_up15418902@livefyre.com/ http://www.livefyre.com/profile/_up15408083@livefyre.com/ http://www.livefyre.com/profile/_up16369638@livefyre.com/  Maybe they have one lined up for Letang :) 

    2 days, 22 hours ago on http://mapleleafshotstove.com/2013/06/24/bernier-the-boats/
    More Proof the MSM, reads here first !

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      Mind Bomb hahahahahalolololol

    • phaneufoundlander

      lol..good stuff Bomber

      • Mind Bomb

        phaneufoundlander Hey morning Lander!

  • .JVR.

    I would welcome Letang with open arms, but I don’t think I’d wanna pay the price they’d be asking for him.
    They say the Penguins would want atleast 1 roster player, a prospect and a 1st for him.
    There’s no way I’d include Kadri, JVR, Lupul, Kessel, Gardiner or Rielly.

    • Mind Bomb

      .JVR.  Guess who they will ask for thats not on that list :)
      No one :)

      • .JVR.

        Mind Bomb
        Gardiner and Rielly have the potential to be just as good as Letang, so why include either of them in a trade for him and end up having to pay 3-4 times as much for a very similar player?

    • Cameron19

      .JVR. Same situation as always though with high profile players – no one else would either.  Anyone bidding on a potential UFA is only going to want to give up their 2nd tier assets, or picks. After all, it wasn’t Callahan, Kreider, Del Zotto, McDonagh or Staal in the Nash trade.

      • Mind Bomb

        Cameron19 .JVR.  Still screwed their depth, but good point

      • Mind Bomb

        Just a thought though Cam, Nash had some control over where he went, like only the Rangers. Letang will be a outright Bidding war !

        • Cameron19

          Mind Bomb Letang will have full control in 5 days, too.

        • Mind Bomb

          Cameron19 Mind Bomb If he lasts that long, thats why the talk is now before the draft, do they want a first this year ? Etc

        • MaxwellHowe

          Cameron19 Mind Bomb isn’t Letang signed thru next year tho?

        • Cameron19

          Mind Bomb Cameron19 

          Of course that’s why it’s happening now, but that’s why it happened at this time of the year with Staal, too.  The pressure is on Shero though, not us. Say we really are the preferred destination, Shero’s best deal is going to be made between now and July 1st.  However, we know that, too.

        • Cameron19

          MaxwellHowe Cameron19 Mind Bomb NTC kicks in.

        • MaxwellHowe

          Cameron19 MaxwellHowe Mind Bomb ahh.  Well obviously he will waive it for Toronto then won’t he? yeah, right

        • Mind Bomb

          Cameron19 Mind Bomb Interesting Times eh ? I think the letang being traded somewhere has legs if they dont get a deal done.

        • Mind Bomb

          MaxwellHowe Cameron19 Mind Bomb lol Max

        • Cameron19

          MaxwellHowe Cameron19 Mind Bomb Well, that’s the whole story, right?  He’s apparently let it be known he has a “preferred destination”, and that it’s Toronto.  If that’s the case, than it’s just like the Staal situation.  Don’t expect us to cough up primary assets for a guy who controls his own destiny and wants to be here. 

          There’s only a bidding war if he says “trade me anywhere”. And frankly, the only way we’re involved is if he does want to come here, and we can do a reasonable trade. I think that’s the same for anyone.  No one ever parts with primary talents in these situations, yet we always expect they will..

  • Glove Dropper

    Anyone know what the deadline is for teams to submit qualifying offers?  Is it possible that Nashville could just let Blum become a UFA???  Anyone know what the story is there?
    Cheers

  • MaxwellHowe

    To be clear, not sold on LeTang, I think he is injury prone, BUT if in a trade for LeTang the Leafs took Fleury back in order to buy out his contract, the Leafs might not have to give up very much in terms of assets.

    • Cameron19

      MaxwellHowe It’s not like they can’t afford to buy him out themselves.  Fleury’s still much better than he’s being credited for right now, too.

      • rickpearce76

        Cameron19 MaxwellHowe There are 20 teams who would take him in a trade today. The thought of him being bought out is laughable. I’m not even a fan of his. But that’s a fact. He’s still highly rated.

        • MaxwellHowe

          rickpearce76 Cameron19 MaxwellHowe I think Fluery is finished.  Jose Theodore finished.  Andrew Raycroft finished.  Done.

        • phaneufoundlander

          and Toskala, oh wait, it was over before it began :)

      • MaxwellHowe

        Cameron19 MaxwellHowe I don’t know about their willingness to pay buyouts – their future revenues are not set in stone.  Only 10 years ago they were facing exticncion.

  • 2minutes

    Kulie, Colborne and a 1st. Take it or leave it.

    • phaneufoundlander

      yip, no Garda aor Reilly, forget it

      • Dink

        phaneufoundlander they would want Reimer don’t you think?

  • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

    actually , i think what shero is doing is the smartest way of doing it from a business side …… team keeps all the leverage  from player and other teams ……. closer to ufa the less valuable the player gets . if they tell letang sign before draft under our terms or they will trade him . the player has no power . it might be true ……

  • Loric76

    https://twitter.com/JoshRimerHockeyhttps://twitter.com/JoshRimerHockey/status/350234547557892098
    Wow Tampa Bay is buying out Vincent Lecavalier according to https://twitter.com/RenLavoieRDS

    • Glove Dropper

      Loric76 
      Wow.  So what’s his new contract worth?

    • Mind Bomb

      Loric76  Wow, they did it. There goes our dreams, NHL realized the leafs were going to have an advantage and Nixed these compliance deals 
      Screwed Again !!

      • Joe_17

        Mind Bomb Loric76 its better this way – they would have penalized us draft picks or something to prove a point

      • Loric76

        Mind Bomb Loric76 yup…where’s the noose

      • phaneufoundlander

        Yip, Those mothers fuckers make me sick, protecting thre US teams, fuckin assholes. We are the crown fucking jewel and should have been granted to go through with that trade!!

    • Maple Leafs Creed

      Loric76 This is going to make the Dipeitro to Toronto rumours more intense now

      • phaneufoundlander

        hope so, c’mon Nonis, get er done

    • Maple Leafs Creed

      Loric76 This is going to make the Dipeitro to Toronto rumours more intense now

  • Loric76

    https://twitter.com/TSN1050Radiohttps://twitter.com/TSN1050Radio/status/350234607058300929
    Per https://twitter.com/RenLavoieRDS: https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Lightning&src=hash will buy out Vincent Lecavalier

    • Cameron19

      Loric76 Sign him.

      • MaxwellHowe

        Cameron19 Loric76 He is going to run to Miami or Montreal.  love to have him with the Leafs tho.

        • Dink

          MaxwellHowe Cameron19 Loric76  Habs are salivating now

      • MaxwellHowe

        Cameron19 Loric76 He is going to run to Miami or Montreal.  love to have him with the Leafs tho.

      • phaneufoundlander

        yip, get er done

    • MaxwellHowe

      Loric76 I think I just heard the sound of Bozak’s agent hitting the floor.  Bozie be lucky to get 3 million a year with Briere and Lacavalier on the market.

      • Cameron19

        MaxwellHowe Loric76 Possibly Richards and Hossa soon, too.

  • Loric76

    https://twitter.com/TSN1050Radiohttps://twitter.com/TSN1050Radio/status/350234607058300929
    Per https://twitter.com/RenLavoieRDS: https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Lightning&src=hash will buy out Vincent Lecavalier

  • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

    sooooo, what do leafs offer vinny ????? 3 years 5,5 mil per ??

    • Loric76

      unclejakescards won’t matter, he’ll go to the Habs

      • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

        Loric76 unclejakescards did he not already nix a deal to habs few years ago ???

    • Cameron19

      unclejakescards 4 years, 20 million.

      • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

        Cameron19 unclejakescards done……. lolol

    • Dink

      unclejakescards thats a lot of money for a 32 millionaire lol

      • Dink

        unclejakescards or whatever it was

  • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

    hahaha, fuckin habs fans will go insane if leafs somehow get vinny and letang !!!!!

  • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

    hahaha, fuckin habs fans will go insane if leafs somehow get vinny and letang !!!!!

  • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

    hahaha, fuckin habs fans will go insane if leafs somehow get vinny and letang !!!!!

  • Loric76

    So if Letang and Phaneuf play together on the same line, who wins the Noris next year?

    • Cameron19

      Loric76 The one the media likes better.

    • Mind Bomb

      Loric76  Gardiner !

    • Joe_17

      Loric76 Lidstrom…some which way. guaranteed if letang is a leaf he because shit to the media in a mater of minutes. There’ll be new Letang fail clips all over the net

    • Dink

      Loric76  Karlsson

    • Dink

      Loric76  Karlsson

  • Loric76

    So if TB is buying Lecav out, whats the hangup on making the buyout deal happen?  Must be that Lecav isn’t willing to waive, so TB is now threatening to buy him out themselves.  My guess is it’s a bluff to get him to cave.  Lecav + something sweet may still be coming to Toronto…hang on to your seats folks

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      Loric76 or, its that bolts just aernt willing to pay the assets leafs want to do the buyout , their threatening leafs with buying him out themsleves unless they lower the asking price….

      • mcloki

        unclejakescards Loric76 That would be a 32 MILLION dollar bluff. 32 million dollars.

        • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

          mcloki unclejakescards Loric76 ya, but that vinnik has the dough …. and unfortunately , so does wang …..

        • mcloki

          unclejakescards mcloki Loric76 First rule of being rich. Someone else pays for my mistakes.

    • 2minutes

      Nope. He will be bought out by TB and that’s it.

  • phaneufoundlander

    Why the hell would Letang mention the Leafs as a desired location? makes no sense…is his wife from there?

    • DJBrianBurke

      phaneufoundlander He needed the hits.

    • Cameron19

      phaneufoundlander Same reason Hossa and Campbell went to Chicago.  Young team on the rise.

    • Long Sufferin Leaf Fan

      phaneufoundlander likes being in the spotlight apparently

  • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

    Oh dear…here comes all the mock lineups with Vinny at center……..

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      ingy56 well who would you rather have ???

      • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

        unclejakescards ingy56 I’d love to have him but I doubt very much he comes.

        • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

          ingy56 unclejakescards why not ??? he has to know his career could be completely revived as #1 centre in leafland ….

      • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

        unclejakescards ingy56 I’d love to have him but I doubt very much he comes.

    • rickpearce76

      ingy56 We would be insane not to bid on him. He’s big, he’s a presence on the ice, he may not be a crosby.toews level 1c but he’s way fucking closer than anyone we got in our system. Plus we could get him for no assets.

      • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

        rickpearce76 ingy56 For sure, I’m just not so sure he likes the limelight….nothing to base that on but a feeling though.

    • rickpearce76

      ingy56 We would be insane not to bid on him. He’s big, he’s a presence on the ice, he may not be a crosby.toews level 1c but he’s way fucking closer than anyone we got in our system. Plus we could get him for no assets.

  • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

    Oh dear…here comes all the mock lineups with Vinny at center……..

  • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

    Kunitz’s deal has to be a rude wakeup for Bozak.

  • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

    hmmm, wonder if a bigger 1 year deal offer for vinny would be better …… 6.5 mil per ???? tell him if he dont like it we trade him back to bolts at end of season …… he cant go back for one year no matter what ….

    • Greg Fenton

      unclejakescards It might be better for the Leafs, but if Lecavalier is a UFA there will be more then 1 team interested in him, getting him to sign a 1 year deal won’t be easy because someone will offer him 5 or 6 years.

      • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

        Greg Fenton unclejakescards ya, the idea around the 1 year deal is if he just wants to go back to bolta following year ….. spend the year trying to talk him into staying a few more …… if he is interested in longer deal then thats fine too …… not more than 5 tho …… prefer 3 .

        • Greg Fenton

          unclejakescards Greg Fenton Gotta remember this guy is 33 years old. At most he has 6-7 years left were he can play in the NHL and make money. If a team offieres him 5 million a year for 3-5-6 years, he is going to take it and get that security for himself and his family. It would kinda suck if he took 6.5 for 1 year then Tampa Bay didn’t want him or only offered him 1.5 million. If he really likes the Tampa Bay area he’ll live there in the off-season and move back there once he retires.

        • Greg Fenton

          unclejakescards Greg Fenton Gotta remember this guy is 33 years old. At most he has 6-7 years left were he can play in the NHL and make money. If a team offieres him 5 million a year for 3-5-6 years, he is going to take it and get that security for himself and his family. It would kinda suck if he took 6.5 for 1 year then Tampa Bay didn’t want him or only offered him 1.5 million. If he really likes the Tampa Bay area he’ll live there in the off-season and move back there once he retires.

  • Burtonboy

    https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenziehttps://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/350237403388198912
    “https://twitter.com/TBLightning: The Lightning will use compliance buy-out on center Vincent Lecavalier http://t.co/6df9Q6MSj3“/That’s a $32M kiss off. Yikes

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      Burtonboy He gets $8 million in cash too for a bonus in his deal.

      • Burtonboy

        ingy56 Burtonboy Freakin wild eh.

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Burtonboy ingy56 I don’t know why they wouldn’t wait a year but like you’ve said before maybe they are worried about injury.

      • mcloki

        ingy56 Burtonboycapgeek
        The Vincent Lecavalier buyout will cost $30M over 14 years — $2.142857M per season through 2027. #NHL #TBLightning
        https://twitter.com/damospin/status/350238277325950976

        • mcloki

          ingy56 Burtonboy THey’re going to be paying him till 2027. They shouldn’t be allowed to get revenue share until the end of that.

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          mcloki ingy56 Burtonboy Was just thinking that…Vinny may end up owning the Bolts much like Mario.

        • Dink

          mcloki ingy56 Burtonboy  thats a lot of scratch

        • mcloki

          @Dink mcloki ingy56 Burtonboy 2027. For perspective. Hillary Clinton will have served her double term as president and almost finished her third term as president by then.

        • Dink

          mcloki ingy56 Burtonboy oh lordy

      • Dink

        ingy56 Burtonboy What dumb GM came up with this deal anyway?

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          @Dink ingy56 Burtonboy Wasn’t it Feaster? Can’t remember to be honest.

        • Dink

          ingy56 Burtonboy  hahaha

        • rustynail

          ingy56 Burtonboy ya it was

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          rustynail ingy56 Burtonboy Thought it might have been.

    • MaxwellHowe

      Burtonboy I’m thinking Mr. Vinnk ain’t in love with the NHL head office right about now.  Frankly I’m astonished the NHL is going to watch a southern franchise take a hit like this when a viable solution is out there…

  • rickpearce76

    Clarkson and Vinny and Letang? lol imagine…

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      rickpearce76 and with bernier goin into bell centre next year ……… just to spite the habs , im in !!!

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      rickpearce76 and with bernier goin into bell centre next year ……… just to spite the habs , im in !!!

    • GeorgeCastanza

      rickpearce76 too many Francaphones. ha