MLHS 2013 Mock Draft – Part 2

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ICYMI, check out part 1 here.

16th: Buffalo Sabres (from MIN) – ANTHONY – RYAN PULOCK

With our second selection of the day at 16, the Sabres are proud to select Ryan Pulock.

If I’m being honest, there are players still on the board I like better than Pulock, but considering I already drafted a forward for Buffalo, I felt I had to take a defenseman and Pulock was the guy. A lot of people thought he would be a top 10 pick going into the year, but his season was hindered by injuries, his team was worse, and it was his first year as captain. He’s a puck-moving defenseman with what has to be the hardest shot of anyone in this draft, and he has some physicality to his game as well.

17th: Ottawa Senators – MICHAEL – NIC PETAN

With the 17th selection in the 2013 NHL Entry Draft, the Ottawa Senators (intense, prolonged chorus of boos to follow) are proud to select – from the Portland Winterhawks of the Western Hockey League, centerman Nicolas Petan.

Petan comes to the nation’s capital as the WHL’s top scorer with 120 points (tied with teammate Brendan Leipsic). He finished first in the league in assists, +/- and was a first team allstar. He also saw his point totals increase by 85 compared to last season, an almost unprecedented offensive outburst. Quite creative in the offensive zone, he seems to turn nothing plays into something dangerous almost every shift. While he has a good shot it’s his shiftiness and vision that make him such a scoring threat. He also a great first step and the ability to beat defenders either sweet dangles or a burst of speed.

There are two knocks on Petan’s game, the kinds that make him a ‘project pick.’ The first, and ironically the bigger of the two, is that he lists at a modest 5’9 and 165 lbs., quite a bit smaller than you’d like a top flight centreman to be. The second is that he played on an absolutely stacked Winterhawks team, so he’ll be hard pressed to repeat his incredible performance next season. But in the spirit of swinging for the fences, it’s hard not to like pure offensive dynamism and skill that Petan brings to the table. Could be the next Brendan Gallagher.

18th: Detroit Red Wings – MATT – JORDAN SUBBAN

Jordan Subban, because we’re used to Nick Lidstrom winning Norris…es, and apparently guys named Subban can do that really easily, without needing to deserve them.

19th: Columbus Blue Jackets (from NYR) – JON – ALEXANDER WENNBERG

The Columbus Blue Jackets are pleased to select with the 19th pick of the first round, from Djurgardens of the Swedish Tier 2 League, Alexander Wennberg.

Holy windfall Batman! The Blue Jackets went into this draft thinking they’d be making the best of the mid-round but have been able to land two prospects ranked in their (Jon’s) top ten. Ideally this pick would have been for a defenseman, but you can’t ignore a player this talented still on the draft board.

The biggest selling point on Wennberg is the way he sees the ice (though being one of the faster players in the draft doesn’t hurt either). If moved back to centre Wennberg could very easily be top playmaker in the years to come, and at the very least he’ll be a solid top six forward at whatever position he is needed at. Spending the year in the Swedish Tier two League, playing against older competition could have Wennberg ready to make a jump to the NHL sooner than a lot of the other players available.

20th: San Jose Sharks – BRIAN – FREDERIK GAUTHIER

With the 20th pick in the 2013 NHL Draft, San Jose is proud to select, from Rimouski of the Quebec Major Junior League: Frederik Gauthier.

We feel Gauthier brings the all important size down the middle and a top end defensive game. He’s been used on big stages to shut down the top opposition and we feel that’s a desirable quality long term for our organization as well as every organization. They say you need to ultimately draft the Sutter’s of the world to have them on your team, and we feel Gauthier will fill a similar role long term for us.

21st: Toronto Maple Leafs – ANTHONY – KERBY RYCHEL

With the 21st pick the Toronto Maple Leafs are proud to select Kerby Rychel.

I had planned on drafting Frederik Gauthier here, but Brian snagged him right before me with San Jose, so I decided between Mantha and Rychel and ultimately chose Rychel. He’s a 6’1 winger who is a goalscorer and all out hustle player. Rychel put up 39 points in his first 39 games before Alex Khokhlachev came back to Windsor, after which he put up 48 points in his next 29 games. Some consider that a knock against him, but scoring at a point per game pace in your draft is very good, so when you consider that he was well above that once he was paired with some talent, I actually consider it a positive. His skating needs work, but this guy should be an NHL player and he’s going to add scoring ability to the Leafs’ prospect pool.

22nd: Calgary Flames (from STL) – BLUE CHIP PROSPECTS – JOSH MORRISSEY

With the 22nd pick the Calgary Flames are proud to select Josh Morrissey.

Initially, I had this pick earmarked for Curtis Lazar — the perfect player to pick at this stage of the draft. What that strategy failed to recognize was that Lazar once saved Mislav’s dog from a burning building, which led to a dramatic boost in his draft stock.

As I mentioned earlier, I like swinging for the fences in the middle of the first round and after Calgary picked up a safe bet in Monahan early, they’ll roll the dice on ceiling with Morrissey. A fantastic skater and puck-mover, Morrissey has all the makings of a great powerplay defenseman. His transition defense is perfectly adequate though he doesn’t handle the cycle game particularly well in his own zone. Still, at this stage of the draft, Calgary is fortunate to be adding a player of his calibre.

23rd: Washington Capitals – MISLAV – ROBERT HAGG

With the 23rd pick in the 2013 NHL Entry Draft, the Washington Capitals are pleased to select defenseman Robert Hagg from MODO Hockey (Sweden).

The Capitals organization was quite surprised when they saw Hagg available this late in the draft. This 18 year old uses an extremely high hockey IQ with a smart stick defensively while offering a well rounded game. While being a quality player in his own end of the ice, Robert possesses untapped offensive potential, is a good puck mover and has already featured as a standout for Sweden at the WJC. Along with those traits, Hagg has a solid frame and is still expected to fill out. We’re delighted to make him a member of the Washington Capitals.

24th: Vancouver Canucks – ALEX – Anthony Mantha

With the 24th selection, Vancouver takes forward Anthony Mantha from the Val-D’Or Foreurs of the QMJHL.

Anthony offers an exciting blend of size, skating and natural scoring ability that simply does not come around very often. We feel that with the right work ethic and commitment to improving at both ends of the ice, this is a kid with the potential to become a gamebreaker someday.

25th: Montreal Canadiens – MICHAEL – Mirco Mueller

With the 25th selection, the Montreal Canadiens are happy to select, from the Everett Silvertips of the Western Hockey League, defenseman Mirco Mueller.

Mueller has shot up the rankings in his draft year, his first since coming over from his native Switzerland. The left-shooting rearguard finished second in rookie scoring from a defenseman in the ‘Dub (behind No. 2 selection Seth Jones), with 31 points in 63 games. He sees the ice very well, and excels in the transition game using pin-point passing or good footspeed to carry the puck out of the defensive end. He’s also got an absolute rocket of a shot, and can work a power play.

He’s got ideal size for a defender at 6’3”, but at a scant 176 pounds he’ll definitely need to fill out before getting a shot with the Habs. Along with some added muscle and bulk, he’ll also need to improve upon his physicality. Modelling his game after Nik Lidstrom (cause seriously, who wouldn’t do that?), he relies on positioning to suffocate offensive players rather than levelling a big hit.

26th: Anaheim Ducks – BRIAN – RYAN HARTMAN

With the 26th selection in the 2013 NHL Draft, Anaheim is proud to select, from the Plymouth Whalers of the Ontario Hockey League: Ryan Hartman.

We feel that Ryan continues to add an important element to our hockey team with his agitating play and well-rounded game. Not only can he get under opponent’s skin real well, he brings an offensive ability to score and set up linemates, and play a good defensive game. As witnessed at the World Juniors he can play in a checking role, and we also feel there’s an ability for him to be a good complimentary scorer to ignite our more pure skilled players.

27th: Columbus Blue Jackets (from LAK) – JON – ADAM ERNE

With our third pick of the first round, 27th overall, the Columbus Blue Jackets are pleased to select, from the Quebec Remparts of the Quebec Major Junior League, Adam Erne.

This was a tough pick. I really wanted to get Columbus a defenseman, but none of the players I would have considered fell far enough, and I couldn’t justify my reaching picks with Erne left up on the draft board.

What the Jackets are adding is one of the best power forward prospects available in the draft. He’s a player who will drive the net at an impressive top speed and he’s capable of playing in any situation. He’s primary a finisher so don’t expect too much creativity, just goals. Since the Jackets have picked twice prior to this selection they’ll be able to take their time on developing Erne who might be a bit more of a project.

28th: Calgary Flames (from PIT) – BCP – JT COMPHER

With the 28th selection, the Calgary Flames select, from the US National Team Development Program, JT Compher.

As I hinted at earlier, Curtis Lazar is a player who I think may have slipped a bit further than he should have on a lot of draft boards and, in my mind, he’s a great value pick-up for a team looking to add a Lazar-esque skill set. Compher is a very well rounded player. and a tenacious forechecker who has nice puck skills and a heavy shot. If the Flames were to add Monahan, Morrissey, and Compher then I’d say they’ve had an awfully strong draft. Knowing them though, they’ll probably take some kid from highschool who nobody was even looking at until the mid-third round.

29th: Dallas Stars (from BOS) – Samuel Morin

With the 29th selection, Dallas takes defenseman Samuel Morin from the Rimouski Oceanic of the QMJHL.

Samis another mammoth defenseman with good fundamentals and plenty of upside. We like his pedigree of success and his impressive performance for Canada at the World U-18’s. This is a player who has put in a great deal of work on his game and it’s showing as he seems to be improving every time he steps on the ice. Sam’s still a few years away from being NHL ready but we’re thrilled to welcome him into the organization.

30th: Chicago Blackhawks – MATT MISTELE – ?

The guy mock drafting for the Blackhawks in this slot really is terribly educated on the prospect pool beyond the top guys, so we’re going to trade this pick to Calgary in exchange for their 2014 first rounder. (Because we believe that pick will be high, and because there’s a 2014 draft-eligible kid named Matt Mistele currently playing for the Plymouth Whalers that we think looks pretty great.)

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    mornin bitches !!

  • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

    mornin bitches !!

  • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

    curious what the rangers are up to , they got too much cap space , could have more with buyout of richards ……. dumb moves comin ???

    • Dink

      unclejakescards I think they keep Richards with the new coach

      • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

        @Dink unclejakescards i think it depends on what retarded moves they could be making ….. if they think they can get other players they will buy him out …. if they dont belive there gonna be able to add much , they keep him for this year , buy out next year …

    • wendelsfist

      unclejakescards They will talk to Vinny and see if he is open about the NYR. If so, then they will buy out Richards.

      • daniel marois

        wendelsfist unclejakescards 
        Rangers always on these big-ticket UFAs.  Would not surprise me if Vinny tries the big apple.

    • wendelsfist

      unclejakescards They will talk to Vinny and see if he is open about the NYR. If so, then they will buy out Richards.

  • http://twitter.com/jmckelvie RielledUp

    If the Leafs get Rychel I will be ecstatic. Seems like a Logan Couture type player. If he’s taken I hope they get Ryan Hartman. Lots of character and can put the puck in the net. Reminds me of Steve Downie/Darcy Tucker.

  • daniel marois

    Rychel is a great choice at #21.  Interesting no one tool Klimchuk in the first round.  But srry guys, lost credibility with Petan and Subban taken in the top-20.  But to each is own.

  • MaxwellHowe

    JT Compher has more upside than Rychel.  And Subban and Petan in the 1st round?  Sure, why don’t the Senators play Petan and Conacher together, unretire Mike Comrie and put the Pee Wee line on the ice.

  • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

    im really hoping the leafs can wheel and deal and move up in the draft …… theres a few potential franchise players available ….. that darnell (chris pronger) nurse would be a great pick …i know , hes not a centre , but ……… dam

  • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

    im really hoping the leafs can wheel and deal and move up in the draft …… theres a few potential franchise players available ….. that darnell (chris pronger) nurse would be a great pick …i know , hes not a centre , but ……… dam

  • Knights2Leafs

    I like Ottawa taking Petan.  Along with Cory Conacher, the Sens would be building a scabs like smurf team.

    • Knights2Leafs

      MaxwellHowe 
      Sorry, hadn’t read your post.  I agree.

      • MaxwellHowe

        Knights2Leafs MaxwellHowe I was hoping I had had an original thought.

  • Joe_17

    hoolihan I dont mind grabbing the BPA but we really need to boost our offensive prospect pool. Thanks Christ Leivo put some points up otherwise we’d be very very barren on offensive prospects

    • Cameron19

      hoolihan Joe_17 Maybe in 5 or 6 years he would be.

    • hoolihan

      -Keon- hoolihan Joe_17 Straight up! Watch Nonis go!

    • Cameron19

      hoolihan -Keon- Joe_17 Phaneuf is worth far, far more than Paul Stastny.

    • daniel marois

      hoolihan Cameron19 -Keon- Joe_17 
      Any deal to get a top-10 pick puts them out for Letang. At least I would think they use it to draft a centre no?  Certainly getting a top-10 pick would get Shero to lean towards moving Letang to Tor.

    • Cameron19

      hoolihan Cameron19 -Keon- Joe_17 Well, at least we’d be in the hunt for McDavid.

    • daniel marois

      Cameron19 hoolihan -Keon- Joe_17 
      At least trading for somone’s 2015 first rounder gets you in the dance for McDavid.

    • daniel marois

      Cameron19 hoolihan -Keon- Joe_17 
      At least trading for somone’s 2015 first rounder gets you in the dance for McDavid.

    • Cameron19

      hoolihan -Keon- Cameron19 Joe_17 Far, far worse than last season.  We literally have no one we could trust against top lines.  That group would be absolutely shredded.  I don’t think you understand how much we depend on Dion Phaneuf to do that job.

    • Savo43

      Cameron19 hoolihan -Keon- Joe_17 I don’t think you understand how much this guy is just a hooligan disguised by an h instead of a g.

    • theacs1966

      Joe_17 hoolihan We got Mckeeg too, he didn’t play much at start but he poured it on a bit in the 2nd half.  A full season on a top line will do him some good.

  • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

    hoolihan but carolina 5th is available ……. dont see them picking before that

    • MaxwellHowe

      unclejakescards hoolihan Carolina wants a dman.  I was recklessly advocating for Phaneuf”s exit earlier.  Just sayin’.  Get to 5 and maybe 4 and Barkov are attainable.

      • Cameron19

        MaxwellHowe unclejakescards hoolihan But then who plays defense for our team? That deal puts us in the lottery region next year.

      • -Keon-

        Cameron19 MaxwellHowe unclejakescards hoolihan Don’t need D with Reimer and Bernier

      • MaxwellHowe

        Cameron19 Sign a vet dman for a few years? Trade Grabo for an overpriced but still useful blueliners? Sometimes I think the Leafs need to slow down. Got two fine young goalies, great young d prospects. Built from the net out. Maybe now is the time to drive for forward prospects and look 3-5 years ahead. i know its sacrilege, but imagine the cap situation the Leafs would be in in 3 years if they traded Kessel and Phaneuf for young prospects and picks? And managed the buyout deal for Dipietro to pick up other prospects? The team could set itself up for a decade of greatness.

  • daniel marois

    Well, if Petan and Subban do go in the top 20, then some good talent will drop for the Leafs.  I still like the idea of drafting Domi if they can move up.  His skill might be even better than Monahan despite the size difference.

  • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

    -Keon- mornin larry … kinda hopin they are able to deal away grabbo and liles today , open up some play space …..

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      -Keon- unclejakescards would you rather lawrence ???lolol

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      -Keon- unclejakescards haha, ok you werent a cable guy tho right ???

  • Burtonboy

    -Keon- hoolihan Phaneuf for Gagner and the 7th overall.

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      Burtonboy shutty !!!!

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      Burtonboy mornin chucky !! lolol

    • Burtonboy

      unclejakescards Burtonboy and then we trade Kulie,D’Amico and our 21th for Letang :)))))))))

    • Burtonboy

      unclejakescards Burtonboy and then we trade Kulie,D’Amico and our 21th for Letang :)))))))))

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      Burtonboy unclejakescards did you get laid last nite ??? whats with all the trades ???

    • Burtonboy

      unclejakescards Burtonboy Maybe . we’re also gonna sign Clarkson and Gordon lol

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      Burtonboy unclejakescards holy shit , a blow job too !!! way to go !!!!

    • Burtonboy

      unclejakescards Burtonboy Grabo and Komi will be bought out and Liles will be traded for a 2nd lol

    • Burtonboy

      unclejakescards Burtonboy Grabo and Komi will be bought out and Liles will be traded for a 2nd lol

    • Burtonboy

      unclejakescards Burtonboy Grabo and Komi will be bought out and Liles will be traded for a 2nd lol

    • Burtonboy

      unclejakescards Burtonboy Grabo and Komi will be bought out and Liles will be traded for a 2nd lol

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      Burtonboy unclejakescards that would be kinda disappointing , but it would actually help …….

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      Burtonboy unclejakescards that would be kinda disappointing , but it would actually help …….

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      Burtonboy unclejakescards that would be kinda disappointing , but it would actually help …….

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      Burtonboy unclejakescards that would be kinda disappointing , but it would actually help …….

    • Joe_17

      Burtonboy -Keon- hoolihan Edmonton fans are saying that they wouldnt do Gagner for GArdiner straight up. That tells me they wouldnt do  it for Phaneuf straight up either much less a top 10 pick as well

    • Cameron19

      Burtonboy unclejakescards Still think something is going to come down with the Islanders and all our buyout contracts.  They need a guy like Liles, and we have a favorable situation for them in swapping Komisarek for DiPietro for money saving purposes.  Should be able to get a nice piece out of them, even if not as big as originally hoped for.

    • Cameron19

      Joe_17 Burtonboy -Keon- hoolihan Edmonton fans are retarded though.  They also think Letang for Hemsky is a fair trade.

    • Burtonboy

      Cameron19 Burtonboy unclejakescards Frankly with all the shit about those buyout trades I doubt anything happens now

    • Cameron19

      Burtonboy Cameron19 unclejakescards Yea, probably not, but I think there’s something a little more down to Earth that could still be accomplished there, and I think that’s why we haven’t seen Toronto make a move on that front yet. Obviously we were trying very hard to make the Lecavalier situation work, hopefully we’re also looking into DiPietro – where there is clearly no fear of him resigning with his original team.

    • Burtonboy

      Cameron19 Burtonboy unclejakescards Don’t think Snow or Wang will pay the price needed to make it worth our while

    • Cameron19

      Burtonboy Cameron19 unclejakescards I think it’s worth our while if they just take back Komisarek AND Liles, leaving us a buyout spot for Grabo, should we need it. Maybe instead of giving us a 3rd round pick for Liles (what I assume he’s worth), they give us Okposo – and maybe eat a portion of his salary for us. 

      We’re sending them Liles (11.25 million), Komisarek (2.166 million – buyout), and they’re sending us DiPietro (24 million), and eating say a third of Okposo’s salary. Just an example, but that’s much closer to what we did with Nashville.  At the end of the day, we’re eating about 7-8 million in salary concerns for them, and they get a roster player out of it to replace Streit.

    • daniel marois

      Burtonboy Cameron19 unclejakescards 
      I think Nonis will fight hard to pry a Strome from NYI in exchange for Dipietro.  I also like the idea of both teams swapping their first rounders.  Being at#15 would likely get the Leafs the player they want in that range.

    • Burtonboy

      Cameron19 Burtonboy unclejakescards If their willing to do that maybe it can work. Snow is such an asshole though

    • daniel marois

      Cameron19 Joe_17 Burtonboy -Keon- hoolihan 
      Richard Cloutier needs to hang on to his hockeybuzz blogger job for paperboy route change.

    • daniel marois

      Burtonboy Cameron19 unclejakescards 
      Not a bad deal.  Not sure if getting Okposo would do it for me.  But does have upside.

    • MaxwellHowe

      Cameron19 Burtonboy unclejakescards The Isles have been completely silent on Dipietro, whilst other teams announce buyouts.  But there is no freakin’ way they just eat that full contract until 2021.  He will be bought out by someone.  Something has to be happening here

    • Cameron19

      MaxwellHowe Cameron19 Burtonboy unclejakescards Agreed.

    • Mind Bomb

      Burtonboyunclejakescards Hhaha your on Fire today BB you are still drinking
      So Sign Clarkson, Gordon
      Buy Out Komi and Grabo, Trade Liles
      then we trade Kulie,D’Amico and our 21th for Letang :))))))))) and then
      Phaneuf for Gagner and the 7th overall.
      Hahha your in a Good mood today BB :)

    • Cameron19

      daniel marois Burtonboy Cameron19 unclejakescards It would have under-stated value if we could get them to eat half his contract for us.  Having him on the cap at a very flexibile 1.5 million for 3 years would be helpful in other areas.

    • daniel marois

      MaxwellHowe Cameron19 Burtonboy unclejakescards 
      That’s why Komi has yet to be bought out.  They are saving them for this Sunday in a trade.

    • Dink

      Cameron19 MaxwellHowe Burtonboy unclejakescards Whats the time frame for getting buyouts done? Doesn’t it end before the draft?

    • daniel marois

      @Dink Cameron19 MaxwellHowe Burtonboy unclejakescards 
      Nope.  It ends the day for free agency opens.

    • Dink

      Shift_Disturber1 Cameron19 MaxwellHowe Burtonboy unclejakescards oh I thought it was a 48 hour thing

    • Dink

      Shift_Disturber1 Cameron19 MaxwellHowe Burtonboy unclejakescards oh I thought it was a 48 hour thing

    • Dink

      daniel marois Cameron19 MaxwellHowe Burtonboy unclejakescards well that sux …lol

  • Burtonboy

    Shift_Disturber1 Who says we stopped lol

    • -Keon-

      Burtonboy Shift_Disturber1 ya, only the pussies stop drinking

    • Burtonboy

      Shift_Disturber1 Burtonboy I can remember many night coming of N/Shift and hitting the bottle . Its why I can’t drink so much anymore lol

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      Shift_Disturber1 hay fucker !!! how you get that pic of my wife !!!!!

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      Shift_Disturber1 unclejakescards lol , i bought her the exact suit … same size , same tan ……. im gonna have to have a talk ……

    • Uncle Otis

      -Keon- 
      AA’s for quitters.
      Nobody likes a quitter 😉

    • Uncle Otis

      -Keon- 
      AA’s for quitters.
      Nobody likes a quitter 😉

  • Burtonboy

    Shift_Disturber1 Who says we stopped lol

  • Burtonboy

    Shift_Disturber1 Who says we stopped lol

  • daniel marois

    -Keon- 
    I do think we might hear some more buyouts today.  As far as trades, more likely on Sat – as its the day before the draft.

  • Mind Bomb

    Good morning Everyone, did someone mention Drinks ?

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      Mind Bomb mornin, bb got laid last nite !!!

      • Mind Bomb

        unclejakescards Mind Bomb Nice man always a good night

    • Mind Bomb

      Shift_Disturber1 Mind Bomb WE shite, I forgot my wallet :)

      • Mind Bomb

        Shift_Disturber1 Mind Bomb lol

  • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

    if leafs trade dion , i will be very disappointed ….

    • Burtonboy

      unclejakescards Prepare yourself …I suggest you start drinking now lol

      • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

        Burtonboy unclejakescards i really dont need anyone to cheer me on ……..

      • Joe_17

        Burtonboy unclejakescards i get the impression its a good thing to start considering as well. im not against trading him, but you gotta replace him too. that’ll be the tricky part

      • Joe_17

        Burtonboy unclejakescards i get the impression its a good thing to start considering as well. im not against trading him, but you gotta replace him too. that’ll be the tricky part

    • Cameron19

      unclejakescards Hey, there’s always Connor McDavid to get excited about.

      • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

        Cameron19 unclejakescards if leafs want to have a chance to compete next year , they need dion . without him , they in trouble …

        • Cameron19

          unclejakescards Cameron19 Yea, not even exaggerating here: you remove Dion from our line-up, and you might as well advertise a new rebuild, because otherwise we have just a ridiculously young, inexperienced blue line, with the youngest goalie tandem in the NHL, and no one who has ever played against top competition except for Gunnarsson…

        • Cameron19

          unclejakescards Cameron19 Yea, not even exaggerating here: you remove Dion from our line-up, and you might as well advertise a new rebuild, because otherwise we have just a ridiculously young, inexperienced blue line, with the youngest goalie tandem in the NHL, and no one who has ever played against top competition except for Gunnarsson…

        • Cameron19

          hoolihan Cameron19 unclejakescards There is literally not one defensemen we could realistically acquire who could even touch what Phaneuf does for us. He is probably the most under-appreciated, and under-rated player in the league right now.

        • daniel marois

          Cameron19 hoolihan unclejakescards 
          If Letang helps our PP like a Karlson does, I make the deal and move out Dion.  He has a bomb of a shot and missed the net 90% of the time.

        • Cameron19

          daniel marois Cameron19 hoolihan unclejakescards Again though, that leaves us with having no one to play actual defense.

        • Cameron19

          daniel marois Cameron19 hoolihan unclejakescards Again though, that leaves us with having no one to play actual defense.

        • Dink

          Cameron19 daniel marois hoolihan unclejakescards true

        • daniel marois

          Cameron19 daniel marois hoolihan unclejakescards 
          Agreed.  But sometimes you have to leave a hole when adding something signiifcant.  I am sure Nonis has someone in mind to replace Dion – if he moves him.

        • Cameron19

          hoolihan Cameron19 unclejakescards That poll was conducted 4 years ago.  It is probably the single stupidest argument I have ever heard.  Looking at the other names on the list in the poll, it was clear they did not understand the criteria for over-rated. I’m sorry, but using that as a springboard in this discussion is just worthless.

        • MaxwellHowe

          hoolihan Cameron19 unclejakescards I completely agree.  I think Cameron’s argument begs the question – if the rest of the blueline is so young, if the goaltending so inexperienced, then maybe the Leafs should look a few years ahead.  Build the team around the young dmen like Gardiner and Reilly.  At least one of Reimer and Bernier will shine.  Use Phaneuf and, yes, even Kessel to gather young forwards, particularly centres.  Imagine how our cap situation would be in 3 years iwthout Kessel and Lhaneuf and a bevy of young promisong stars?  Dare I predict dynasty?

        • Cameron19

          MaxwellHowe hoolihan Cameron19 unclejakescards It’s just the opposite.  Chicago’s model works because their defenders are more experienced than their young forwards.  Defenders enter their prime at 27, and typically stay there til 34, whereas forwards enter at 24, and exit by 28 or 29.

        • Savo43

          Cameron19 hoolihan unclejakescards Not only that but they clearly just dont like the guy. hes a bitch to play against lolll.

        • Cameron19

          hoolihan Cameron19 unclejakescards You understand incorrectly.  The poll was 4 years ago.  Luongo was second on that list.  After that nod, he won the Gold medal for Canada, and took his team to game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals.  The poll was nothing more than jealousy over contracts, and probably had more to do with player simply not liking these guys and their cocky attitudes.

          At the time, Phaneuf was also a second pairing defender who got 1st unit PP minutes, which may have contributed.  Since then, he’s become one of the most complete defenders in the league.  We really need to stop basing our opinions off of out-of-context magazine articles from 4 years ago and build teams based on who can play hockey well.

        • MaxwellHowe

          Cameron19 MaxwellHowe hoolihan unclejakescards 
          SO, we should invest in forwards younger than Franson and Gardiner and Reilly then.  I feel like you’re making my point

        • Cameron19

          MaxwellHowe Cameron19 hoolihan unclejakescards My point is, we should be adding more defenders in Phaneuf’s age range, while continuing to try and get younger in our forward group.

        • Cameron19

          hoolihan Cameron19 MaxwellHowe unclejakescards 

          I see our D looking like this in the future:

          2 years from now:

          Gardiner (3.0) – Phaneuf (7.0)
          Rielly (0.9) – Franson (3.5)
          Gunnar (3.0) – Granberg (0.8)
          Fraser (1.0) – Blacker (0.75)

          CAP HIT: 19.45 million

          4 years from now:

          Gardiner (5.0) – Phaneuf (7.0)
          Rielly (3.0) – Franson (5.0)
          Gunnar (3.0) – Granberg (1.0)
          Percy (0.9)

          CAP HIT: 24.9 million

          That’s well within your salary restrictions, but by the time we get to the latter incarnation, the cap will likely be at least 75 million.

        • MaxwellHowe

          Cameron19
          But this is what I’m sayin’ Cameron. You see Phaneuf in a better light than me, thats the difference. I think he cna be replaced with older dmen who can man the ship for 2-3 years while the younger guys mature. Meanwhile, Phanuef and Kessel lands the Leafs the younger forwards needed for serious dynasty building. yes, my meglomania has moved on to dynasty building

        • Cameron19

          hoolihan Cameron19 daniel marois unclejakescards Why do you think that though?  That is just a point that doesn’t have any evidence to support it.  Any kind of analysis shows that Dion was excellent at shutting down top lines the last few years, and only getting better.  There’s a reason he got at least one nod for the Norris, and it’s because some people actually, you know, actually like evidence as opposed to hype. 

          Only Suter played harder minutes than Phaneuf this year.  Phaneuf put his team in the playoffs and took them to game 7 against the EC champs.

        • Cameron19

          MaxwellHowe Cameron19 Who could you get to replace Phaneuf though?  You say things like that, but in actual practice, it would be near impossible.

        • Cameron19

          hoolihan Cameron19 MaxwellHowe unclejakescards Well, Franson and Gardiner are improving by leaps and bounds, but yea, Granberg, Percy, Blacker – they are all very good on that side of the game. I have a feeling Rielly will be a quick study, too.

        • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

          Cameron19 dam you never give up do you ??? lolol , dog on a bone !!!

        • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

          hoolihan exactly !!! defensive d-man suck offensively , offensive d-man suck defensively ….. the rare breed is one that can do both well ….. thats dion , like it or not !!!

        • dlb eh

          hoolihan Cameron19 unclejakescards 
          teams with a great top pair and a meagre bottom pair do better than teams with 6 average defenders.
          give me 4 excellent D and two Marlies and i’ll be excited

  • Burtonboy

    https://twitter.com/Real_ESPNLeBrun
    Just my own guess at this point, but I’m thinking Rangers leaning towards NOT buying out Brad Richards. Could be wrong, but that’s my guess.
    I think the’re nuts if they don’t . You might never get another chance to rid yourself of that contract .

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      Burtonboy if they dont have anything else to spend the money on, they just wait til next year ….

      • Burtonboy

        unclejakescards Burtonboy He gets hurt the’re fucked . Its not about the money, its the dam cap re-capture that will murder them in the future

        • daniel marois

          Burtonboy unclejakescards 
          I know.  We’ll see if they have the Yzerman guts and let Richards go for nothing in return.  Tough spot.  Glad it’s not our prolbem!

        • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

          Burtonboy unclejakescards thats common sense , when rangers show any ?????

        • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

          Burtonboy unclejakescards thats common sense , when rangers show any ?????

    • Dink

      Burtonboy NY mgt. don’t seem to give a shit what Sather does or how much he spends…

    • daniel marois

      Burtonboy 
      I think they might like the idea of Vinny and Richards being a 1-2 punch down the middle next season.  But Rags have some RFAs to re-sign including Lundquist.  So it is not a slam dunk.

    • Cameron19

      Burtonboy Maybe they think they can use him to lure Lecavalier there.  But as it stands, they have only 12 million to resign Stepan (their leading scorer), McDonagh (their top pairing D, when Staal isn’t healthy, which is always), and Hagelin. After doing so, they’d still have 2 roster spots to fill. DO

      • Cameron19

        Burtonboy Don’t see how they could do it.

        • Burtonboy

          Cameron19 Burtonboy Do what ?

        • daniel marois

          Cameron19 Burtonboy 
          And re-sign Lundquist.  That a lot of money to spend before even signing Vinny.

        • Cameron19

          Burtonboy Cameron19 Ha, accidentally hit post mid-sentence – meant to say ‘don’t see how they could do it.

      • Dink

        Cameron19 Burtonboy Lecavalier can’t be so stupid not to see how Richards was treated in NY…yet again …money talks I guess

        • Cameron19

          @Dink Cameron19 Burtonboy In this case though, the Rags really can’t offer all that much.  Of their 12 million in cap space, you’re looking at spending at least 4 on Stepan, 3 on McDonagh (they’re good at ripping off their D), and 2 on Hagelin.  That leaves at best, 3 million to fill two roster spots.

      • Savo43

        Cameron19 Burtonboy Stepan is pretty damn good.

      • Savo43

        Cameron19 Burtonboy Stepan is pretty damn good.

      • maple1967leafs

        Maybe they trade Hagelin to the Canucks  😉

    • Dink

      Burtonboy Richards could get reborn under Vignault (however you spell it)

    • Savo43

      Burtonboy I think Vigneault could spark him, he’s a good coach.

    • Savo43

      Burtonboy I think Vigneault could spark him, he’s a good coach.

  • Dink

    We all know that Letang will get over his hissy-fit tantrum and sign with Pittsburgh don’t we?

    • Faalcon

      @Dink Yes and he better sign that offer. I don’t think any other team would offer as much.

    • daniel marois

      @Dink 
      Looks not likely now.  If he turned down that deal, no way Pitt counters with $8-9 mil a yr.

      • Cameron19

        daniel marois The last report said that HE countered with 7.5 million. Presumably they’ll settle on 7.25.

    • Area49th

      @Dink Pittsb is big on these 8 year deals now. He will go home to Pitts and take the cash

  • Burtonboy

    https://twitter.com/TSNRyanRishaug
    Sources confirm Keith Acton will be named associate coach in Edmonton.

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      -Keon- Burtonboy the game the whole family can play !!!

    • .JVR.

      Burtonboy 
      Hmm, I have a feeling the Oilers will be trading for Will Acton.
      He’s the son of Keith Acton and was heavily relied upon by Eakins in a defensive role.

      • Savo43

        .JVR. Burtonboy Will he better ACT ON it soon!!! hah, i got jokes.

        • .JVR.

          Savo43
          Yup, you’re just Mr. Jokes this morning, haha.

          I’m not sure why Nonis would wanna trade him to the Oilers though, as the return won’t be anything substantial and Acton has a big role with the Marlies.

        • .JVR.

          Savo43
          Yup, you’re just Mr. Jokes this morning, haha.

          I’m not sure why Nonis would wanna trade him to the Oilers though, as the return won’t be anything substantial and Acton has a big role with the Marlies.

        • Savo43

          .JVR. Savo43 Opens a spot for Carrick though.

        • Savo43

          .JVR. Savo43 Or Ross, but tbh i’d have to look at the roster, perhaps they already have spots.

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Savo43 .JVR. Acton isn’t even on the 50 man roster, he had an AHL deal only. As far as I know he’s free to join the Oilers as long as his AHL deal has expired.

        • .JVR.

          ingy56
          In that case, I think the Oilers have their new 4th line centre (to play with Brown)

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      Burtonboy Katz must need an informer.

  • rustynail

    https://twitter.com/BlueJayshttps://twitter.com/BlueJays/status/350455822356201472
    The https://twitter.com/BlueJays place MELKY CABRERA on the 15-day DL with left knee tendonitis. MUNENORI KAWASAKI will be recalled from https://twitter.com/BuffaloBisons (AAA).

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      rustynail boy is hurtin without his “juice”

  • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

    i will never , ever , understand the hate dion gets  . above average defensive d-man, above average offensive d-man . rare breed ……. this team will suck without him ….. again .

    • Savo43

      unclejakescards well depends on the replacement but i agree on how good he is

  • mcloki

    This talk of doing anything other than resigning Dion is just media driven Bullshit and fan driven madness. Stick to losing your hockey fantasy pools.

  • .JVR.

    Apparently Letang is the big topic of the day, but I really hope Nonis doesn’t give up too much for him, considering he is a Free Agent after next season and is very injury prone.
    If you trade for Letang, there is a good chance you lose one of Kessel or Phaneuf next summer and I really don’t think it is worth it.

    • Savo43

      .JVR. Kessel stays, we are throwing Kitchen sinks at him.

      • .JVR.

        Savo43
        I can’t see the Penguins accepting anything less than a package including either Gardiner or Rielly and a 1st.

        In that case, going forward, would you rather have Phaneuf, Gardiner and Rielly on the back-end or Letang and one of Rielly or Gardiner?

        • reenergized

          .JVR. Savo43 why not JML ?

        • .JVR.

          reenergized
          Are you being serious?

        • Savo43

          .JVR. Savo43 Fine by me to be honest. I think Rielly will be better than Letang defensively, and i think Gardiner will be on par or better offensively because of his speed and cannon. Letangs playmaking ability is better than both though. I’m fine staying course. I believe in the kids coming through, including Blacker, and Granberg, i think both those boys have a legitimate shot this year.

        • reenergized

          .JVR. reenergized small PM d man plus plus for a small PM D man that Pitts stated isn’t their best Dman …
          why not?
          I’m not suggesting that we have to get him … I’m just not convinced that we should give up jake or Morgan …. or our first for Letang

        • .JVR.

          reenergized
          Why exactly would the Penguins want a player the Leafs are possibly buying out?

        • reenergized

          .JVR. reenergized nobody is forcing us to trade, so we should only trade the pieces we are comfortable trading or that help us … fuck what Pitts wants …

        • reenergized

          .JVR. reenergized possibly buying out because he doesn’t fit our model or current requirements … his cap hit isn’t horrible and his salary is inn line with his skill and contribution level …

        • .JVR.

          reenergized
          Well, Pittsburgh cares what Pittsburgh wants and if they don’t get what they want, they won’t trade him.
          Simple as that.

        • .JVR.

          reenergized
          OK, so Liles, a prospect and a 1st for Letang?
          That prospect is gonna have to be pretty damn good.  Like one of Percy or Biggs good.

        • Greg Fenton

          reenergized .JVR. To get a player of Letangs talent/ability/level…….there is very little I wouldn’t be comfortable trading. 
          Players that good don’t come around very often, if you need one and can get one, you do it.

        • .JVR.

          Greg Fenton
          It’s not just about what you have to give up in a trade though, like I said earlier, you’d also probably have to give up one of Kessel or Phaneuf when they become UFAs next summer.

        • Greg Fenton

          .JVR. Greg Fenton I’m fine with that, I think Letang is a better player then either of them. I think Letang is a guy you can build a team around, Phaneuf and Kessel are a level down from that (think Subban or Marleau level). 
          I would try to get the Penguins to one of them back in the deal personally.

        • .JVR.

          Greg Fenton
          So, you’d rather have Letang, Kessel and Rielly than Phaneuf, Kessel, Gardiner and Rielly?
          Not taking into account the prospect and 1st round pick we’d have to give up.

        • Greg Fenton

          .JVR. Greg Fenton I’d rather have Letang, Phaneuf, Gardiner and Rielly and move Kessel……
          However, assuming that options out, yes I would. As I said, Letang is on that franchise level of player (I think he is looking at his play, stats and performance the last few years) who is over shadowed on the Penguins. No one currently on the Leafs is at that level, and who knows if any of the prospects will ever get that that level. Quanity =/= Quality in the NHL. 
          That smaller group with the better Letang is a better, strong group.

        • Greg Fenton

          .JVR. Greg Fenton I’d rather have Letang, Phaneuf, Gardiner and Rielly and move Kessel……
          However, assuming that options out, yes I would. As I said, Letang is on that franchise level of player (I think he is looking at his play, stats and performance the last few years) who is over shadowed on the Penguins. No one currently on the Leafs is at that level, and who knows if any of the prospects will ever get that that level. Quanity =/= Quality in the NHL. 
          That smaller group with the better Letang is a better, strong group.

    • Greg Fenton

      .JVR. I thought Letang was a step down from a franchise player, but after looking at him and his stats and his consistency the last couple days, I think he is a franchise player who is overshadowed in the team he plays on. I think he hands down a better player then Kessel or Phaneuf and would gladly give up either one to snag Letang (Kessel if you want a really strong defense and goaltending, Phaneuf if you want more balance).
      The Leafs have several positional needs, but they also have a big franchise need, which is franchise talent, a player(s) they can really built a team around. And while it would be ideal to find a center man to be that player there doesn’t appear to be that option for them. When a team drafts early and is looking for a someone to build around they don’t take position into account. After drafting Malkin, I’m sure the Penguins would have loved to find a winger for him to play with instead of another franchise center man, but you don’t pass up Crosby to take Ryan. 
      The Leafs need that top tier, franchise talent. They can’t and shouldn’t be picky about what position that player is if they have the chance to get that player.

      • .JVR.

        Greg Fenton
        While I’d love to add Letang, I don’t think it’s worth giving up either Gardiner or Rielly VIA trade and then losing say Phaneuf as an UFA next summer.

        Sure Letang is better offensively than Phaneuf, but does he kill penalties and does Bylsma trust him enough to put him on the ice when the team is protecting a one goal lead late in the third?

        • Greg Fenton

          .JVR. Greg Fenton Personally, with the current and future potential strength on defense and in goal, Kessel would be the player I let go, and I’d try to make him the center piece of the deal. I’d hold onto Phaneuf and start next year with Letang, Phaneuf, Franson and Gardiner as my top 4, try to bring in a UFA or two like Horton, Clarkson, Bickell etc… to replace the offense you lose with Kessel.
          Moving forward, built a team with a strong goalie and defense, and dept at forward. The Devils two 3 cups building that way. The Bruins won a cup and got to a final doing it that way.

        • Greg Fenton

          .JVR. Greg Fenton Devils won 3 cups

        • Mind Bomb

          Greg Fenton .JVR.  Brodeur says High Bro, Louongo is a strong Goalie, Brodeur is the best to play the Game. Now you can sign Clarkson, Bickell etc now. the Question is would you rather Kessel or Letang. Well seeing as we already have 2 D men in the top scoring for D, and still have Gardiner and Rielly coming, I would not allocate hat kinda Cap to an offensive Defensemen, Franson and Gardiner  are going to get paid as well.

        • Greg Fenton

          Mind Bomb Greg Fenton .JVR. Letang isn’t just an offensive D-man though, he looks like the kind of D-man you can build a team around. Neither Phaneuf or Franson are, and who knows if Gardiner and/or Rielly will be (certainly not looked on as locks the way players like Stamkos, Malkin or Tavares were). 
          Kessel is a 2nd tier player (as I said, think Hossa, Marleau, Brown), while I think Letang is a franchise level D-man. The Leafs don’t have a single player on that franchise level and I would be silly not to trade one if he is available. 
          If you disagree with the who direction of the team I would perfer (really strong goaltending, really strong D), thats fine. You don’t move Kessel, you move Gardiner or Rielly, let Phaneuf walk or move him for something else etc….. But right now, bringing in Letang is the best thing Nonis could do.

        • Greg Fenton

          Mind Bomb Greg Fenton .JVR. Letang isn’t just an offensive D-man though, he looks like the kind of D-man you can build a team around. Neither Phaneuf or Franson are, and who knows if Gardiner and/or Rielly will be (certainly not looked on as locks the way players like Stamkos, Malkin or Tavares were). 
          Kessel is a 2nd tier player (as I said, think Hossa, Marleau, Brown), while I think Letang is a franchise level D-man. The Leafs don’t have a single player on that franchise level and I would be silly not to trade one if he is available. 
          If you disagree with the who direction of the team I would perfer (really strong goaltending, really strong D), thats fine. You don’t move Kessel, you move Gardiner or Rielly, let Phaneuf walk or move him for something else etc….. But right now, bringing in Letang is the best thing Nonis could do.

        • Mind Bomb

          Greg FentonMind Bomb.JVR.I was for that until he turned down that contract in Pit, seriously he turns down this
          http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=426488
          Originally I thought they were low ballin Letang, but seriously how much does he want !

        • Greg Fenton

          Mind Bomb Greg Fenton .JVR. He may just want to move on he feels he is being over shadowed. But also, if he feels he is a franchise D-man (so on the same level as a Chara and a Weber and Suter), that is probably 1-1.5 million a year light. 
          Unlike Kessel or Phaneuf, I’d be comfortable giving him that much money.

        • Greg Fenton

          Mind Bomb Greg Fenton .JVR. I should say, I also value D-men higher. If everything is equal between two players, I’ll always take the D-man. In my opinion (espically at the highest level) they affect more areas of the game and can have a bigger impact on the out come of a game. 
          A few years ago when Burke was after the #1 pick, i said I would have taken Hedman over Tavares. This year, I’d take Jones over MacKinnion.

        • Mind Bomb

          Greg Fenton Mind Bomb .JVR.  Well Defense does win Championships, I think a well Balanced and coached Defense will work as well. We have one of the Highest scoring D in the league already, A Big Talented Shut down D is what I would like and keep Kessel.

        • Greg Fenton

          Mind Bomb Greg Fenton .JVR. Teams that win also have franchise talent, and its what the Leafs are missing. Letang brings that, Phaneuf and Kessel don’t. 
          I’m talking about two things at once. First, just the presence of a franchise player(s). It doesn’t matter what position, teams have won with their best player(s) being at every position, but teams that win have at least 1-2 players that are among the best of the best in the league. The Leafs are currently missing that and Letang brings that, which is the single biggest reaosn Nonis needs to take a serious run at getting him. 
          Second, how the team is built/put together. Rather then trade from an area of strength I’d rather then make that area (goaltending, defense) stronger and build a team around that strength, which is why I’d give up Kessel over Phaneuf. Its my perference, but I wouldn’t be upset if they went the other way.

        • Mind Bomb

          Greg Fenton Mind Bomb .JVR.  See there is the Difference, I think Kessel is Elite, Certainly showed that against Boston, and Getting us there

        • Greg Fenton

          Mind Bomb Greg Fenton .JVR. He has shown flashs of it, but he has yet to play at that level consistently which is why he is more like a Hossa or Marleau or Brown then a Stamkos or Kane or Tavares.

        • Mind Bomb

          Greg Fenton Mind Bomb .JVR.  And yet only one of them have won the Cup. And Kane had a little help

        • Greg Fenton

          Mind Bomb Greg Fenton .JVR. They won’t win the stanely cup on their own, and most teams that win have 2 or 3 of team. Sundin was a franchise player and he didn’t win a cup either. 
          But look at the teams that have have won. Toews/Kane/Keith. Crosby/Malkin/Letang. Datsyuk/Zetterberg/Lidstrom. Lidstrom/Yzerman. Niedermayer/Pronger. Niedermayer/Brodeur/Stevens. etc…..

        • Greg Fenton

          Mind Bomb Greg Fenton .JVR. They won’t win the stanely cup on their own, and most teams that win have 2 or 3 of team. Sundin was a franchise player and he didn’t win a cup either. 
          But look at the teams that have have won. Toews/Kane/Keith. Crosby/Malkin/Letang. Datsyuk/Zetterberg/Lidstrom. Lidstrom/Yzerman. Niedermayer/Pronger. Niedermayer/Brodeur/Stevens. etc…..

        • Mind Bomb

          Greg Fenton Mind Bomb .JVR.  Kes,JVR,Lupul,Phaneuf then coming Gardiner Reilly, Kadri
          These guys are not all in their 30’s when this core gels, gains more expirience * Phils out * They will get better.

        • Greg Fenton

          Mind Bomb .JVR. If Kessel plays all of 2013-2014 like he played the last 24 games and in the playoffs, I’d say he is on the verge of becoming that player. If he then plays at that level in 2014-2015….he is there. Then he has to play at that level for the next 5 years or so…… Some players get there and can’t maintain (see Heatley who wasn’t much older then Kessel he started to regress).

        • Mind Bomb

          Greg Fenton Mind Bomb .JVR.  Heatley was a Douche though !

        • Greg Fenton

          Mind Bomb Greg Fenton .JVR. They aren’t in their 30’s, but except for Gardiner, Rielly and Kadri they are in their primes and most likely “are what they are”. And I don’t know anyone who really expect Gardiner, Rielly or Kadri to become THAT level of player. That isn’t to say they won’t be good players, but Niedermayer/Stamkos level…….
          And there is no guarentee they’ll get better. They could regress (See the Heatley example, douche or great great, he was a fantastic hockey player who regressed at 27-28 years old). One or two or even all three of those young guys could fail to reach their potential. Remember when a lot of people were really high on Wellwood and thought he was only going to get better?
          They are missing that franchise component, I don’t think it makes any sense not go after Letang if he is available because he brings that. That would be a HUGE get for the Leafs.

    • Greg Fenton

      .JVR. I thought Letang was a step down from a franchise player, but after looking at him and his stats and his consistency the last couple days, I think he is a franchise player who is overshadowed in the team he plays on. I think he hands down a better player then Kessel or Phaneuf and would gladly give up either one to snag Letang (Kessel if you want a really strong defense and goaltending, Phaneuf if you want more balance).
      The Leafs have several positional needs, but they also have a big franchise need, which is franchise talent, a player(s) they can really built a team around. And while it would be ideal to find a center man to be that player there doesn’t appear to be that option for them. When a team drafts early and is looking for a someone to build around they don’t take position into account. After drafting Malkin, I’m sure the Penguins would have loved to find a winger for him to play with instead of another franchise center man, but you don’t pass up Crosby to take Ryan. 
      The Leafs need that top tier, franchise talent. They can’t and shouldn’t be picky about what position that player is if they have the chance to get that player.

  • dlb eh

    Alright Anthony, my man.  Kirby good.

  • mcloki

    Mornign Gents. Are people getting stupider the closer we get to draft day?
    These next 2 1/2 days , 50 hours should be very entertaining.

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      mcloki We can all be as stupid as we want, it’s Nonis that has to keep it together.

      • mcloki

        ingy56 mcloki I think it’s the illogic that drives me crazy.

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          mcloki ingy56 Like reading the sports pages, gotta take the good with the bad I guess.

    • Cameron19

      mcloki This time of the year brings out the crazy.

      • rustynail

        Cameron19 mcloki like 3 way trades? :)

        • mcloki

          rustynail Cameron19 mcloki When was the last 3 way trade?

        • rustynail

          mcloki rustynail Cameron19 from Cameron19  less than an hour ago I would think :)

        • mcloki

          rustynail mcloki Cameron19 What I missed it. What was it.

        • mcloki

          rustynail mcloki Cameron19 What I missed it. What was it.

        • Cameron19

          rustynail Cameron19 mcloki Ha, my trades are just for fun. I don’t actually think they’ll happen.

        • Cameron19

          mcloki rustynail Cameron19 It was last season.  Quincey for Downie for a 1st.

        • rustynail

          Cameron19 rustynail mcloki yup I know

        • Dink

          mcloki rustynail Cameron19Tinkers to Evers to Chance

  • GeorgeCastanza

    As usual most of these rumours are red herrings. Something will happen out of left field….and we’ll be stunned!!!!

    • dlb eh

      GeorgeCastanza 
      Liles to DET for Filppula rights.
      Grabovski to MIN for Clutterbuck rights.
      Gardiner to NJD for Clarkson rights and Larsson (is that his name?).
      Something to PHX for Gordon’s rights.  this is the goocher.  i can’t figure out what it’ll be.

      • mcloki

        dlb eh GeorgeCastanza GArdiner to NJ for Clarksons rights. A guy who’s going to walk for free in 3 days. OMG. Am I taking crazy pills?

        • Burtonboy

          mcloki Says the guy who figures we can get Tavares in a buyout trade lol :)))))

        • mcloki

          Burtonboy mcloki Hey TB looks mighty dumb for buying out LEcavalier. They got nothing in return. The league through revenue share is paying to let Lecavalier walk. Where they could have gotten financial relief and possibly players.
          Will NYI, who we haven’t heard a peep about buyouts from, or the Leafs. go into deal? wait till Sunday.

        • dlb eh

          mcloki dlb eh GeorgeCastanza 
          he said out of left field.
          besides, NJD isn’t about to let that young right-handed D go for Gardiner or anyone else

      • phaneufoundlander

        dlb eh GeorgeCastanzaGardiner to NJD for Clarkson rights and Larsson (is that his name?
        OMG, you just lost all credibility dude…..

  • dlb eh

    not a huge basketball fan, but i have to say i got a goose bump seeing a Canadian kid go 1st overall in the NBA draft last night.
    one more avenue of persuit for all our kids, something else for a country to find some pride in.
    Congrats to you, Anthony Bennett, and all the people who helped him along the way.

    • Savo43

      dlb eh I clapped and cheered.

      • phaneufoundlander

        Savo43 dlb eh I went, fuck he’s motley

      • phaneufoundlander

        Savo43 dlb eh I went, fuck he’s motley

    • mcloki

      dlb eh Hear,hear. Nice to see that happen. Now hopefully the Raps can improve. Tank next year and pick high.

      • Savo43

        mcloki dlb eh The Raps picked the right year to trade away their pick. This draft was borderline horrible. Next year another Canadian will go first by the name of Andrew Wiggins, let me post his dunk competition for you guys. He is effing insane.

        • Dink

          Savo43 mcloki dlb eh  Basketball has the stupidest draft in history…why do they act so stupid with trades of pics? 
          why does basketball have goaltending? let em stuff it if they can
          whats with these timeouts allowing other team to inbound clear to the other end?
          Do they ever call travelling?
          oh nm
          NBA has ruined this sport

        • Savo43

          @Dink Savo43 mcloki dlb eh Lmao, the goaltending comment is retarded no offense. There would never be a 3 point shot ever again. As for travelling, yes, theres about 3-4 travel calls a game. The reason picks are so stupid, is because the commisioner of the league doesn’t let trades go through until he’s revised them, so teams talk to eachother and ask them who they’d pick before the trade fully goes through. Believe it or not their commissioner is worse than ours. He completely controls what teams get good, and what teams get bad in trades by making shit up on the fly. Its not the teams fault its the commish. And no, NBA is alive and well, and generates more interest than hockey in north america.

        • Savo43

          mcloki dlb eh ps: that said, david sterns last day of being commissioner was today, so we’ll see what happens going forward.

        • Dink

          Savo43 mcloki dlb eh ratings for NBA playoffs were far worse than NBCs Stanley Cup ratings

        • mcloki

          Savo43 mcloki dlb eh If the NHL lost Bettman and picked a better PR guy they coud be 3 with a bullet and challenge the other 2 for popularity.

        • mcloki

          Savo43 mcloki dlb eh If the NHL lost Bettman and picked a better PR guy they coud be 3 with a bullet and challenge the other 2 for popularity.

        • Savo43

          @Dink Savo43 mcloki dlb eh Its also the first time every original 6 team has been in the playoffs for years. Every other year the NBA destroys NHL ratings.

        • Savo43

          @Dink Savo43 mcloki dlb eh Basketball is a great sport, so many unbelievable athletes, to hate on it, is just to not understand the game, and to not give it a chance is just jealousy of the tall man.

        • Savo43

          @Dink Savo43 mcloki dlb eh Basketball is a great sport, so many unbelievable athletes, to hate on it, is just to not understand the game, and to not give it a chance is just jealousy of the tall man.

      • Savo43

        mcloki dlb eh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYESAzucqR0

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      dlb eh There was a draft last night? What is this basketball you speak of?

    • .JVR.

      dlb eh 
      Got an alert from The Score App last night and also thought that was pretty cool.
      Watching Sportscentre last night, they said that a Canadian Kid (not sure his name) is a virtual lock to go 1st overall next year as well.
      Looks like the USA is gonna have some competition at the 2016 Summer Olympics.

    • Savo43

      -Keon- dlb eh …..all sports are pretty fun….

    • phaneufoundlander

      -Keon- dlb eh I hate the fucking sport…hockey requires more skill than any other other sport in thew world…bunch of over grown freaks jumping through the air and placing a ball in an empty net? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  • Cloud09

    Fun one for this morning, Rory VS the robot.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ft2fLuz9mF0

  • Savo43

    Anybody know how Sondre Olden is doing these days? I know we didn’t resign him, and he’s not apart of our system anymore, but just curious.

    • .JVR.

      Savo43
      According to his Wikipedia account, he is still playing for the Marlies, haha 😉
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sondre_Olden

      • Mind Bomb

        .JVR. Savo43  Thats the last time he mattered !
        :)

    • Savo43

      -Keon- Savo43 well atleast hes not a sink.

  • rustynail

    https://twitter.com/theninjagreghttps://twitter.com/theninjagreg/status/350494555134623745
    Handzus had a broken wrist and torn Medial Fucking Collateral Ligament. Hossa had a crushed vertebra and couldn’t feel his leg. Bergeron.

    • Cloud09

      rustynail Holy shit

    • Savo43

      rustynail Yeah i couldn’t believe what Handzus played through. Fucking warrior.

      • .JVR.

        Savo43
        Would love to add Handzus to be our third line centre, or even trade for Bolland.

      • .JVR.

        Savo43
        Would love to add Handzus to be our third line centre, or even trade for Bolland.

    • Savo43

      rustynail He was winning faceoffs too…. like shit…Lolllll.

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      rustynail Leafs Nation have broken hearts.

      • Savo43

        ingy56 rustynail Hearts don’t break they just temporarily go out of sync. Mine feels pretty good, pumped for the upcoming season!!!!

  • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

    http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/opinion/2013/06/pens-kris-letang-must-keep-emotion-out-of-contract-talks.html

    • happy_gilmour

      ingy56 I don’t think Letang understands how much f*ckin money that is and the security… greedy bastard!

      • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

        happy_gilmour ingy56 Like Elliotte says, it’s not about the money as much as the emotion. Wrong move.

      • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

        happy_gilmour ingy56 Like Elliotte says, it’s not about the money as much as the emotion. Wrong move.

        • phaneufoundlander

          LN-093 ingy56 happy_gilmour exactly, he’s gonna be rich as a King anyway… and maybe he’s sick of those two whiny bitches Milkman and Crysbaby

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      -Keon- ingy56 Yes, I’d read that one before…looks like Letang will be moving from the sounds of that article. What bothers me is the depth in the system Rossi talks about and to me it seems the Leafs have that same depth and have much the same skill set as Letang. No need to make this trade from a Leaf perspective IMO.

  • rustynail

    https://twitter.com/canucksnaphookhttps://twitter.com/canucksnaphook/status/350602824457007104
    https://twitter.com/HennyTweets rise n shine Henny!! Time for some morning updates!! Say hello to McGill for me. https://twitter.com/search?q=%23TMLtalk&src=hash

  • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

    LN-093 That’s “associate” coach…apparently the term “assistant” must be demeaning and indicative of subservience…  soccer moms have invaded the NHL.

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      LN-093 ingy56 I’ve sent your post on to Patrick Burke. You will need counselling and you’ll be fine.

  • happy_gilmour

    LN-093 Congrats to Horton if he can get it… rather spend that money (or less) on Vinny (well, not the term)

  • happy_gilmour

    LN-093 Congrats to Horton if he can get it… rather spend that money (or less) on Vinny (well, not the term)

    • Dink

      happy_gilmour LN-093 err  screw Horton

    • Dink

      happy_gilmour LN-093 err  screw Horton

      • happy_gilmour

        @Dink happy_gilmour LN-093 umm…I’m not advocating for him, just saying if he can get it, congrats to him… I’ll take a 10th of that salary please :)

      • Dink

        happy_gilmour LN-093 lol

      • Dink

        happy_gilmour LN-093 lol

      • LN-093

        happy_gilmour LN-093 Who would you rather have?  Horton at 6 (2nd highest point getter in the playoffs) or Grabo at 5.5?

      • happy_gilmour

        LN-093 happy_gilmour Grabbo… by the time next year rolls around his buyout will cost less

      • happy_gilmour

        LN-093 happy_gilmour Grabbo… by the time next year rolls around his buyout will cost less

    • .JVR.

      happy_gilmour
      I think I’d rather have Clarkson and he won’t be asking for anywhere near $6 million per.

      • phaneufoundlander

        .JVR. happy_gilmour amen

    • phaneufoundlander

      happy_gilmour LN-093 I’d rather spend 4-5 on Clarkson, less concussion and injuries too…

    • phaneufoundlander

      happy_gilmour LN-093 I’d rather spend 4-5 on Clarkson, less concussion and injuries too…

  • Mind Bomb

    Gilbey93  Sorry Gil, He wont make it to 7 Bro

    • Gilbey93

      Don’t think so? It was a dream anyways. I was pretty pumped till I woke up

    • Mind Bomb

      Gilbey93Nash at 4 Carolina 5 calgary 6 will all probably take the Centers
      http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=98084
      Elite Number 1 Centers, you have to draft them really :)

    • Mind Bomb

      Gilbey93 Mind Bomb No worries, ya never know with Calgary they may want Nurse, or Furcale and draft the Goalie, even though they have 2 other 1sts :) 
      Hell we all thought Forsberg was a top 5 pick last year and the D started going of the board.

  • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

    Gilbey93 Darnell Nurse please

    • Savo43

      ingy56 Gilbey93 blehhhhh.

    • Savo43

      ingy56 Gilbey93 Whats so good about Nurse? i only say bleh cuz his highlight vids werent very highlighty…

      • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

        Savo43 ingy56 Gilbey93 I’ve seen him play a bunch, reminds me of Pronger. Big shut down defenceman with a nasty side. Still growing and a total workout animal. Just got named Captain of the Greyhounds. If they are thinking of moving Dion, this is a kid who could slide into that spot in a few seasons.

  • happy_gilmour

    Gilbey93 My dreams usually involve lots of money, hotties, and tropical islands…

  • Jay_Berg

    Prediction: Vanek gets traded to the Preds for the 4th overall pick.

    • Savo43

      Jay_Berg Pretty fair deal. Wonder who Buffalo would take. Nichushkin or Barkov…Maybe Monahan.

  • Axle_Goalie

    Ferance anyone…… anyone?

    • happy_gilmour

      Axle_Goalie Yup, good short term stabilization… and hopefully relatively cheap

      • Savo43

        happy_gilmour Axle_Goalie Edmonton would probably out bid us, but i doubt he’d wanna go there. He knows about the CGY EDM rivalry though as im pretty sure he was apart of it, could attract him for sure.

    • Jay_Berg

      Look who’s talking 😉

      • Mind Bomb

        -Keon- Jay_Berg Hey X box Hockey Counts if your over 40 bro !

      • Mind Bomb

        -Keon- Mind Bomb Jay_Berg Thats why your so cranky bro, You need an X box and some Porn ! great way to spend your 40’s :)

      • Mind Bomb

        -Keon- Mind Bomb Jay_Berg   
        Ahh Good Genes 
        Stay Cranky My Friend

      • phaneufoundlander

        -Keon- Mind Bomb Jay_Berg No cup or finals since 1967, yeah, I’d be a cranky bitch too….

  • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

    for shits and giggles …… top defenseman in nhl ……
    chara , weber , keith , doughty , suter , pieterangelo , karlsson , letang .
    where would you place ph9 ??

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      -Keon- unclejakescards me too . point being , dion deserves to be in this group . top 10  d-men in whole friggin league …… you just dont move one of those , if you can help it ….

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      Gilbey93 unclejakescards fuck pk !!! i wont ever put him on my list

      • Savo43

        unclejakescards Gilbey93 McClement wouldn’t be happy to hear you say that. PK is his specialty….LOL

      • phaneufoundlander

        unclejakescards Gilbey93 same here, hate that bitch

      • phaneufoundlander

        unclejakescards Gilbey93 PK..short for PRICK!!

    • Savo43

      unclejakescards id rather have phaneuf than suter or letang, and Karlssons accent pisses me off.

      • Savo43

        Gilbey93 Savo43 unclejakescards egg fucking zactly lolll

    • LN-093

      -Keon- unclejakescards I abstain my vote due to the statute of self-incrimination.

    • phaneufoundlander

      -Keon- unclejakescards lol

    • phaneufoundlander

      Gilbey93 unclejakescards you mean slew footer, spitter, coward, turtler and Mr. Turn the puck over 5 times a game?

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      Gilbey93 unclejakescards either way , my point was to prove dion is atleast in top 10 in the league …… again , fuck pk !!!

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      Gilbey93 unclejakescards either way , my point was to prove dion is atleast in top 10 in the league …… again , fuck pk !!!

    • Greg Fenton

      Gilbey93 unclejakescards I like Doughty but he isn’t #1. Pieterangelo would be in that group for sure, as would Subban (Yandel and Phaneuf probably get knocked out),

      • Savo43

        Greg Fenton Gilbey93 unclejakescards Doughty is my #1 in the league absolutely. His numbers aren’t the teller of that story, but he’s easily the most complete dman in the league and a big part of why LA’s defense is so damn good.

  • rustynail

    https://twitter.com/JaredOfLondonhttps://twitter.com/JaredOfLondon/status/350611550219943936
    you know who I could see having a significant intrest and chance at Vinny? the Panthers, gotta replace Weiss

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      rustynail Vinny stays in FLA, taxes work. I can totally see it.

      • Mind Bomb

        ingy56 rustynail Ha Vinny says screw you I am staying in FLorida lol

      • rustynail

        ingy56 rustynail doesn’t even have to move really

  • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

    https://twitter.com/NHLwikihttps://twitter.com/NHLwiki/status/350612752890466304
    https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NHL&src=hash – Bettman says https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Devils&src=hash finances are “stable and we remain optimistic about the future of the franchise” http://t.co/lT5IubiC4n

    Quote taken from the Phoenix Coyote playbook.

    • rustynail

      ingy56 I wondred where I read that before :)

    • Savo43

      ingy56 ofourse the devils finances are stable…money is the route of all evil..

      • rustynail

        -Keon- Savo43 ingy56 so from MLSE

      • rustynail

        -Keon- Savo43 ingy56 so from MLSE

      • Savo43

        -Keon- Savo43 ingy56 no i shouldnt have, cuz i don’t speak fucking french keon. Wth is en? lollll jk.

      • -Keon-

        Savo43 -Keon- ingy56 Who was the guy that always talked about expansion, used it every second word. I`m trying to expand myself

      • Savo43

        -Keon- Savo43 ingy56 shove it up your ass, you’ll expand more than you thought possible.

      • Savo43

        -Keon- Savo43 ingy56 with all do respect sir. LOL.

      • Savo43

        -Keon- Savo43 ingy56 LOL

    • Savo43

      -Keon- ingy56 just get him to a place with heights, he seems pretty easy to toss.

    • mcloki

      ingy56 So will they be moving during the Draft?

      • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

        mcloki ingy56 Haha…book it.

    • mcloki

      ingy56 So will they be moving during the Draft?

    • MaxwellHowe

      -Keon- ingy56 NSA dude, NSA

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      -Keon- ingy56 Trade him to that basketball thingy league…I read they need a new figurehead.

      • rustynail

        ingy56 -Keon- exactly back to where he came from

  • Savo43

    I bet Sakic signs Iginla for the avs next season. Maybe thats why they picked up Tanguay.

  • rustynail

    https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenziehttps://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/350614578431922176
    “https://twitter.com/svtlehmann: Daniel Alfredsson has decided to play another year. “The playoffs felt great. No backproblems”. https://twitter.com/search?q=%23nhl&src=hash https://twitter.com/search?q=%23sens&src=hash“/From SWE media.

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      rustynail How much disappointment can a person take?

      • Savo43

        ingy56 rustynail Watch him go to Pittsburgh or something lollll.

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Savo43 ingy56 rustynail Again..how much disappointment can a person take? LOL

        • Mind Bomb

          ingy56 Savo43 rustynail  He is hoping for another TO vrs Ottawa playoffs with the same results :)

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Mind Bomb ingy56 Savo43 rustynail “We have no chance”

    • Dink

      rustynail ffs

  • MaxwellHowe

    Dreger says Phaneuf is available.  IMO Nonis is not convinced the Leafs can contend in the next year or two, and is looking at a 3-5 year plan.  The acquisition of Bernier makes sense if that is the mindset.  One good thing about having a new GM – he will be given a few years to build a contender.

    • rustynail

      MaxwellHowe will he?

    • Mind Bomb

      MaxwellHowe  We are Contending Now, that why we are picking 21st this year not 5th Bro.

      • MaxwellHowe

        Mind Bomb MaxwellHowe I don’t think Nonis sees it that way.  If he saw it that way he would never have obtained Bernier.  IMO Nonis thinks the Leafs were fortunate to finish 5th in the East.

        • Savo43

          MaxwellHowe Mind Bomb ….why wouldn’t he obtain Bernier? LOL. That doesn’t make sense. He got Bernier to do what Reimer couldn’t last year in the playoffs…and that is closing out a game. Reimer had a meltdown, so he acquired insurance in the high potential and young variety, that has nothing to do with him not thinking we can be 5th in the east again, i don’t even get what you mean there LOL.

        • MaxwellHowe

          Savo43 MaxwellHowe Mind Bomb if he thought the Leafs were the real thing last year, then why obtain another young goalie?  Nonis could have signed a veteran like Nabakov and traded Scrivens for assets.  That he doesn’t have faith in Reimer seems to tell me he doesn’t beleive the team is near contending yet.  It makes sense in my mind.  Somehow.

        • Savo43

          MaxwellHowe Savo43 Mind Bomb Lol meh, i think he thinks we can contend, just that we have two really good goalies now if shit hits the fan with the one thats playing.

        • Savo43

          MaxwellHowe Savo43 Mind Bomb PS: just my opinion that theyre both really good goalies btw, im pretty pumped.

        • Mind Bomb

          MaxwellHowe Mind Bomb  Hmm we just dis-agree on this then. Getting Bernier is not an indication he thinks we cant contend, the opposite really, If he thought we couldnt win he would have signed a Vet 2nd rate goalie to pad the High Picks.
          We were not Fortuanate to finnish 5th. We earned that, our young talent gained invaluable expirinence, After playing Boston that well in the Cup, I bet we challenge for the Division 
          Calling it now, regardless of Trades

        • Savo43

          Mind Bomb MaxwellHowe i really like our chances to contend for the division. The two teams that have been the reason for us missing the playoffs in past years have been Buffalo and Boston. I think we have gotten alot better in those matchups, as of this past year and itll only progress going forward IMO.

        • daniel marois

          Savo43 Mind Bomb MaxwellHowe 
          Hearing Phaneuf’s name leads me to believe Nonis has a couple trade proposals on the table.  Much like his goaltending questions about Reimer, I think he sees this team without Phaneuf moving forward.

        • daniel marois

          Savo43 Mind Bomb MaxwellHowe 
          Hearing Phaneuf’s name leads me to believe Nonis has a couple trade proposals on the table.  Much like his goaltending questions about Reimer, I think he sees this team without Phaneuf moving forward.

        • MaxwellHowe

          Mind Bomb  I just think Nonis won’t jump the gun, like the Rangers, and throw out picks and prospects so we might possbily contend now. I see a path to building a great team that contends for a long time. It involves getting one or two good assets from the Isles in a Dipietro buyout trade. It involves trading Phanuef and Kessel while their value is high for more prospects and picks. Without Kessel and Phanuef, in 3 years we could have a young developing, exciting team well below the salary cap, in good position then to spend the free agent cash or make the big trade for the missing pieces. That was the way the LA Kings moved forward. I’m sure Lieweke is aware of that.

        • Dink

          daniel marois Savo43 Mind Bomb MaxwellHowe wonder if Nonis follows Burkes idea of getting things done early?

        • daniel marois

          MaxwellHowe Mind Bomb 
          Yup.  This is all about the cap.  You saw what happened to Philly when they commited all that money to Bryz two years ago.  Now they regret it.  I think Leafs wearing about giving Dion $7mil and he does not fulfill that contract.  And with just a year to go on this deal, I think he becomes more movable than ever.

    • Mind Bomb

      MaxwellHowe  We are Contending Now, that why we are picking 21st this year not 5th Bro.

    • Savo43

      MaxwellHowe now i remember you!!!
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akwU-ddEloI