Pre-UFA Opens

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If UFA Day is like Christmas, this July we might get the chance to unwrap a few gifts early. At least, hopefully they’re gifts and not 4.5 million pieces of coal for the next 8 years.

The pre-FA negotiation period affords the Leafs the chance to feel out the temperature on certain UFA targets and then, if need be, clear space via the buyout period, which closes tomorrow (July 4) at midnight, or via trade.

The Leafs opened up some cap space yesterday by officially but unsurprisingly buying out Mike Komisarek to save 3.575 million in room (4.5 million – 925k) for the upcoming season. Komisarek’s buried contract was for just one more season at a cap hit of 3.575 million, but the Leafs will need that space if they’re to fill out the roster, be in the bidding for a guy like Clarkson, and then get their glut of RFAs (among them Kadri, Franson, Bernier, Gunnarsson) signed a little later on in the summer.

Dave Nonis has said it is unlikely both compliance buyouts will be used, but he wouldn’t rule it out completely; it likely depends on what they can accomplish in the pre-UFA period over the next few days. Presumably the other candidate for a buyout is John-Michael Liles and his $3,875,000 hit. If he can’t be moved to say, Colorado or NYI (who lost Mark Streit off the back end, bought out DiPietro and are $13 million shy of the cap floor), I wouldn’t have a problem with the decision to buy him out; taking stock of some of the signings across the league, it’s clear a number of GMs are banking on the cap shooting right back up after next season. It may not come to that, though, as the word leaving the Draft was that Nonis is fairly confident he will strike a deal to clear some more space, which is the more ideal scenario as it saves a compliance buyout option for next offseason.

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Italics = My Projection
Includes only 10 forwards and 6 defencemen.

It’s easy to see why Nonis is taking his time with the RFAs (as well as many GMs across the league). It’s a squeeze. Nonis mentioned how it’s been a grind negotiating with players whose agents are still using precedents from a higher cap environment in previous seasons. Across the league many teams are taking their time and pinching their restricted FAs to save on space. I think we may see some of the Leafs’ RFAs sign a bit cheaper than I initially thought.

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  • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ FreddyG

    Now now Alec, coal may not look like much but it serves useful purposes like keeping your star player warm and taking faceoffs and some other stuff.
    Fuck Bozak.

  • Beleafer29

    With players to move and holes to fill, Nonis will get us what we need to make our team competitive every night.  We don’t need big names just big effort to get us back to the playoffs.

    Hard to say how far we had gone had they won Game 7.  Lets hope they are all wondering that, and that is their motivation to return and make some noise.  Any pieces added now will better this team IMO!!!
    Go Leafs Go!!

    • Optimustic

      Beleafer29 We’ll never know how far they would have went, but we do know how well they played and the effort they put into the game.   It was great while it lasted, and it gives us hope moving forward.

  • Bobsyouruncle

    Good blog. I agree, Bozak SUCKS!!!!!

    • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ FreddyG

      Bobsyouruncle Is there a price you’d keep him at?

      • Bobsyouruncle

        @FreddyG Bobsyouruncle It’s getting hard to say because this whole fiasco is bringing out some serious Bozak hate in me. Clearly he’s not a 1C and not worth anywhere near the money and even though we think he could be a 3C we’ve never seen him in the role for a short period of time never mind 82 games. But if I had to put a price on it, $2.5-$2.75M and at that money there’s a case to be made that MacArthur might be a better fit. Personally I’d rather just move on.

        • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ FreddyG

          Bobsyouruncle There’s no chance he’ll be a cost effective 3rd line center anyways when he’s spent so much time on the top line and will be expected to be paid like it.

        • Optimustic

          @FreddyG Bobsyouruncle We have Bolland and J-Mac for 3rd & 4th line centres already.   I don’t dislike Bozie at all, but he sure doesn’t fit here at anywhere near his asking price.  I also feel it’s time to move on.

    • LeafsForLife

      Bobsyouruncle I think say good bye to Bozak and sign Gordon cheap is the best route to take.

      • Bobsyouruncle

        LeafsForLife Bobsyouruncle Yep, I rather go Clarkson, Gordon at this point. although it will probably be something no one has discussed.

        • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ FreddyG

          Bobsyouruncle LeafsForLife Haven’t we discussed every player, available or not, on these boards in the past 2 weeks? 😀

        • LeafsForLife

          Bobsyouruncle LeafsForLife Yes Clarkson i think is the biggest one for me. But Bozak is asking for way too much and I say just let him go. Clarkson and Gordon is the best way to go for sure. I would leave the defence as is unless there is a really good #2D for Dion to play with that we can trade for.

        • LeafsForLife

          Cant edit so, I think Blacker is supposed to be ready. I would give him a shot.

  • LeafsForLife

    Good blog Alec. 
     Any word on who is being considered to take over the Marlies coaching vacancy?

  • LeafsForLife

    Good blog Alec. 
     Any word on who is being considered to take over the Marlies coaching vacancy?

  • Burtonboy

    Can Clarkson be wooed to Leafs?
    http://www.lockerpulse.com/News/Can-Clarkson-be-wooed-to-Leafs-S7394644/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

  • Burtonboy

    Can Clarkson be wooed to Leafs?
    http://www.lockerpulse.com/News/Can-Clarkson-be-wooed-to-Leafs-S7394644/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

  • Optimustic

    The only free agent the Sporting news has as likely to come to TO is Zidlicky.   Not sure if they’re credible or not though.  http://www.sportingnews.com/nhl/story/2013-07-02/nhl-top-free-agents-vincent-lecavalier-flyers-ilya-bryzgalov-nathan-horton-danny/slide/25

    • Burtonboy

      Optimustic look like the bleacher report the way they have that slideshow thingy . Seems to be very speculative so I wouldn’t put much stock into what they’re saying here

    • Burtonboy

      OptimusticLooks like the bleacher report the way they use that slideshow thingey . Seems to be very speculative so I wouldn’t put much stock into what they’re saying here

      • Optimustic

        Burtonboy Optimustic I thought the same thing, I was expecting a pop – up asking me to pay for the site when I opened the slideshow, like it does on the Bleacher report.

      • Optimustic

        Burtonboy Optimustic I thought the same thing, I was expecting a pop – up asking me to pay for the site when I opened the slideshow, like it does on the Bleacher report.

        • Burtonboy

          Optimustic Burtonboy I’ve seen the site before but never paid much attention to it to be honest. I have no clue how reliable they are

        • Optimustic

          Burtonboy Optimustic Nor I, BB.   I believe they have a magazine in the news stands if I remember correctly, I’ve never bought it though.

        • Optimustic

          Burtonboy Optimustic Nor I, BB.   I believe they have a magazine in the news stands if I remember correctly, I’ve never bought it though.

  • Burtonboy

    Johnston: Uncertainty hangs over free agency

    http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/johnston-uncertainty-hangs-over-free-agent-window/

  • Burtonboy

    Johnston: Uncertainty hangs over free agency

    http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/johnston-uncertainty-hangs-over-free-agent-window/

  • Burtonboy

    NHL.com official compliance buyout tracker
    http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=675349&cmpid=nhl-twt

  • Burtonboy

    Good blog Alec. Hard to say whatS going to happen at that center spot . I’m not very happy with either player right now . Bozak at 5 mil for 8 yrs or Grabbo at 5.5 mil for the next 4. Not very appealing IMO.  If I had my choice I would move on from both and look for other options and hopefully Nonis is exploring that as we speak.

  • theacs1966

    They buyout period ends tomorrow at 5 P.M. not midnight!

  • theacs1966

    Re-tred, sign Antropov for a year.  At least he’s big, experienced.  Probably cheap.

  • WendelGilmour

    If Weiss and Ribeiro are our best options I’d rather just run with Kadri-Grabs-Bolland-Colborne/McClement (one can move to wing. I hate Grabs contract, but we can move him later.

    • theacs1966

      WendelGilmour Actually I like that too!  Kadri will be our #1C until we can get ones that is skilled and big (Colborn but I think he tops out at 2C).  At least for the first 20-25 games then reassess and see if we need to trade.

    • theacs1966

      WendelGilmour Actually I like that too!  Kadri will be our #1C until we can get ones that is skilled and big (Colborn but I think he tops out at 2C).  At least for the first 20-25 games then reassess and see if we need to trade.

    • Burtonboy

      WendelGilmour While I’m not enamoured with Bozak or Grabo its a good bet we go with one of the two . Weiss and Robeiro are not significant upgrades and likely to be just as expensive in terms of money and term. Not an appealing thought at all.

      • WendelGilmour

        Burtonboy WendelGilmour That’s exactly where I’m coming from, Bboy. Unless it’s a significant upgrade why bother?

  • WendelGilmour

    If Weiss and Ribeiro are our best options I’d rather just run with Kadri-Grabs-Bolland-Colborne/McClement (one can move to wing. I hate Grabs contract, but we can move him later.

  • Yaknowwhat

    I love Kadri…but its very risky business to throw him into the #1 C role…that leaves Grabo on the first line..and thats not ideal either…were still rather thin and small down the middle…

  • theacs1966

    Yaknowwhat Hence Antropov for a year.  He’ll get more points on a better team and he’s big, can stand in front of the net.  A poor man’s Andrychuk.

    • Burtonboy

      theacs1966 Yaknowwhat We need some good puck possession wingers if they are playing with Antro . Gonna have to hang on to the puck for a while waiting for him to catch up lol

      • theacs1966

        Burtonboy theacs1966 Yaknowwhat true  that

      • theacs1966

        Burtonboy theacs1966 Yaknowwhat Not saying he’s ideal, he’s not,  but if we can’t get a younger more skilled player, use his experience (or someone like him) till Gauthier or McKeeg can take over.

      • theacs1966

        Burtonboy theacs1966 Yaknowwhat Not saying he’s ideal, he’s not,  but if we can’t get a younger more skilled player, use his experience (or someone like him) till Gauthier or McKeeg can take over.

      • Burtonboy

        theacs1966 Burtonboy Yaknowwhat How much is Antro gonna cost ?

      • theacs1966

        Burtonboy theacs1966 Yaknowwhat I don’t imagine much, 2 mil?

      • Burtonboy

        theacs1966 Burtonboy Yaknowwhat He was paid 4.7 last yr

      • theacs1966

        Burtonboy theacs1966 Yaknowwhat Maybe 3 or maybe he likes Winterpeg afterall, he and Poni go to the Yukon each off season to go fishing.  Reminds him of good ole, Kazakhstan.

      • theacs1966

        Burtonboy theacs1966 Yaknowwhat Ya, and 23 points, he takes a cut or he goes to the KHL.

      • theacs1966

        Burtonboy theacs1966 Yaknowwhat NOt 23 18

      • Burtonboy

        theacs1966 Burtonboy Yaknowwhat Think we should pass on Antro lol

      • Burtonboy

        theacs1966 Burtonboy Yaknowwhat Think we should pass on Antro lol

      • Burtonboy

        Yaknowwhat Burtonboy LOL I’m not the one thats interested

      • Burtonboy

        Yaknowwhat Burtonboy LOL I’m not the one thats interested

    • theacs1966

      Yaknowwhat theacs1966 He looked old and slow at 23 but he still got things done somehow.  He blew out both ACL’s twice on one knee, yet has played for ten years since then.

    • theacs1966

      Yaknowwhat theacs1966 He looked old and slow at 23 but he still got things done somehow.  He blew out both ACL’s twice on one knee, yet has played for ten years since then.

  • theacs1966

    Yaknowwhat Hence Antropov for a year.  He’ll get more points on a better team and he’s big, can stand in front of the net.  A poor man’s Andrychuk.

  • WendelGilmour

    Yaknowwhat I’d have Kadri over Grabs. I wouldn’t mind a Statsny for a year, or two., but Kadri will eventually be the 1C (or should be, imo).

    • theacs1966

      Yaknowwhat WendelGilmour Not short he played 40 odd games in the AHL.

    • Burtonboy

      Yaknowwhat WendelGilmour Are  Grabo and Bozak any better ? Not they way they played last year . Bozak does bring more in face offs and PK but little else  . Grabo brings fuck all if he plays like he did last year

    • WendelGilmour

      Yaknowwhat WendelGilmour Fair enough, but I’m aiming for a couple of years from now. Let him get the experience. He’s got enough talent to play against shutdown lines and best D as long as he has good wingers. I thought his slump coinicided with Lups injury. He played a lot with Kulemin and Mac, not exactly snipers.
      Like I said, get a vet for a couple of years and I’m good also.

    • Burtonboy

      Yaknowwhat theacs1966 Think a little bit Yak. He played in the AHL and then went right into a very condensed schedule in the NHL. Thats a tough grind.  I’m not surprised he he hit a wall late in the season

    • Yaknowwhat

      Burtonboy Thats fine BB…but my point is….if he hit a wall playing half a season in the A…and half a season in the NHL doing 2nd and 3rd line duty…how will a full 82 games as #1 Center in the NHL work out? Its alot to ask…thats all I am saying…

    • Burtonboy

      Yaknowwhat Burtonboy Thats was a lot more then half a season in the NHL yak. They played practically every other night in that condensed schedule . A regular NHL schedule is a lot different and you have a lot more recovery time.

  • theacs1966

    Yaknowwhat Whose going to take Grabbo at his price and after the last year?

    • theacs1966

      Yaknowwhat theacs1966 I like him, he didn’t do much but get minues but he seemed to spark the team after gm one.

    • WendelGilmour

      theacs1966 Yaknowwhat I love his energy, but he sure manages to look good yet create nothing.

    • theacs1966

      WendelGilmour theacs1966 Yaknowwhat Pound for pound, the toughest leaf

    • theacs1966

      WendelGilmour theacs1966 Yaknowwhat Only last year, until then he was good, hopefully it was just an injury or illness.

    • theacs1966

      WendelGilmour theacs1966 Yaknowwhat Only last year, until then he was good, hopefully it was just an injury or illness.

    • theacs1966

      WendelGilmour theacs1966 Yaknowwhat She turned me into a unic……I got better.

       Monty Python

  • Burtonboy

    Yaknowwhat Personally I would add Gordon and play Jay on the wing. That would really help in the faceoff circle

  • Burtonboy

    Yaknowwhat Personally I would add Gordon and play Jay on the wing. That would really help in the faceoff circle

  • WendelGilmour

    Yaknowwhat That was my original point though. Kadri is a better player than Weiss, or Bozak. If Bozak wants the money it is rumoured, see ya later.

  • Burtonboy

    Yaknowwhat I have a feeling he’s coming back . 4.5 x 5yrs . Reason being Nonis and Carlyle appear to prefer him over Grabo

    • Burtonboy

      Yaknowwhat Burtonboy Not my preferred option at all but we may have no choice

  • bermudaboy

    Yaknowwhat Grabbo + to Boston for Seguin.

  • Loric76

    Morning gang…anything happen after midnight last night?

    • WendelGilmour

      Loric76 Sounds like Phoenix stays put.

      • Loric76

        WendelGilmour Loric76 ya saw that just now on tsn.  No movement on UFA’s tho?

        • WendelGilmour

          Loric76 WendelGilmour Nope.

        • Burtonboy

          Loric76 WendelGilmour Nothing on twitter overnight Loric

        • Loric76

          Burtonboy Loric76 WendelGilmour thanks.  as usual, going to bed was the right option

        • Loric76

          Burtonboy Loric76 WendelGilmour thanks.  as usual, going to bed was the right option

        • Burtonboy

          Loric76 Burtonboy WendelGilmour I went to bed early too lol

      • Burtonboy

        WendelGilmour Loric76 Don’t bet on it . They still have to complete the purchase and we all know what happened to Jamison

        • WendelGilmour

          Burtonboy WendelGilmour Loric76 Good, had enough of this side show.

  • Wook

    Give that one of our current needs is a second line winger, I tried to recall if we had a right winger in the system in the recent past who could have filled that role if they had not been traded. Versteeg came to my mind. Of course, he was deemed to be ill-fitting at the time, and thus shipped away for draft picks. Don’t get me wrong, I do not regret letting him go, but if he was still here, I think that he would be an okay option for the time being. Versteeg short time as a Leaf has some interesting links to history that pertains to past forwards in the system.
    Jiri Tlusty traded for Philippe Paradis.
    Paradis, Chris DiDomenico, and Victor Stalberg traded for Versteeg.
    Versteeg traded for draft picks that resulted in Stuart Percy (1st) and Josh Leivo (3rd).
    So the net result is we traded away Tlusty, DiDomenico, and Stalberg for Percy and Leivo. Tlusty has proven to be an effective player for the Hurricanes, Stalberg was alright for the Hawks but it appears that he is on his way out, and DiDomenico is playing in Italy. I recall that DiDomenico was cherished by many on this board and most thought that it was a shame he was included in the trade package.
    I guess we have two promising prospects from all of this, but we did lose two decent NHL roster players. So as it sits now, I would say that we are on the losing side of the fence.
    Could any of Versteeg, Stalberg, or Tlusty fill the role of the missing winger that we need on the current roster? Perhaps, but I would say that none of the three would be the ideal winger on the second line to compliment JVR/Lupul and Kadri/Grabovski for the long haul. So, having two promising prospects instead, I am content with the outcome of all the trades involving Versteeg.
    Now, tying all of this together to something of relevance to the current situation, we gave up mediocre draft picks to acquire Bolland. I think we did very well.
    Victor Stahlberg

  • WendelGilmour

    Ok, boys. Off to earn a living. Before I go though, why is it other teams can have kids turn-out to be stars and thrive in tough positions, yet we hesitate to allow ours to do the same. 
    I think Kadri is vastly under-rated by many and see no reason he cannot thrive playing tough minutes with good players. I still believe he would be a PPG player with Lups and Kessel. There is more evidence that suggests he would succeed than there is he wouldn’t.

    • http://twitter.com/jmckelvie RielledUp

      WendelGilmour He would be a PPG player for the first half until he starts to wear down… He scored a lot of points last year but it was against weaker players on the ice. He did play good with Lupul and Kessel though. I just don’t think he’s ready to play a full 82 game season with top line minutes just yet.

  • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

    mornin girlies …. so today is last day to get players on waivers for compliance buyout tomorrow ……. wonder if anyone interesting will be on today ….

    • Burtonboy

      unclejakescards Guess we find out shortly lol

      • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

        Burtonboy unclejakescards curious as to what canucks do …… nobody claimed ballard for them ….. will ownership allow them to buy him out …… then it would rock vancity if lalongo was bought out …….

        • Burtonboy

          unclejakescards Burtonboy Your guess is as good as mine whats going on with those jackasses . They have a little over 3mil in cap space and only 17 players signed

        • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

          Burtonboy unclejakescards i was also wondering if there was any other out for lalongo and that contract …….. like what happens when a player sucks and team doesnt want him and player wants to leave they do that 100 dollar waiver thing and get the contract voided ……. just wonder if there is any other way they can settle that????

        • Burtonboy

          unclejakescards Burtonboy From the way it looks his only option is to not report . Thats would be really costly for Luongo . My bet is he holds his nose and  plays

        • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

          Burtonboy unclejakescards ya, probly , poor guy

    • Burtonboy

      unclejakescards Guess we find out shortly lol

  • http://twitter.com/jmckelvie RielledUp

    I would still like to see Nonis try and go for Stastny. The guy is scoring the same amount of points as Bozak playing with Chuck Kobasew and Jamie McGinn on the Avalanche 3rd line. Imagine what he could so with Kessel and Lupul.

  • HeatherRickAkin

    I have to believe that Nonis held onto Komisarek until the 11th hour before doing the compliance , because he tried to swap him and get a bigger$$$ compliance buyout, and a prospect. Surprised that no one bit. I don’t see the Leafs doing a compliance on Grabo…he is still pretty young . liles on the other hand, while useful, is 33, and has what…3 more years left at about 3.25 ??? Not big big money, or crazy term ,  but I think its 60/40 that JML is somewhere else before September.

  • Komas Taberle

    Good morning guys, what”s new this morning?

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      Komas Taberle guess phoenix moved to arizona ….

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      Komas Taberle guess phoenix moved to arizona ….

  • Komas Taberle

    Good morning guys, what”s new this morning?

  • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

    i believe the free agent frenzy deals on friday will make grabbo and liles contracts good and tradeable ……..

    • http://twitter.com/jmckelvie RielledUp

      unclejakescards Agreed.

    • http://twitter.com/jmckelvie RielledUp

      unclejakescards Agreed.

    • Mind Bomb

      unclejakescards hhaha Probably UJC

  • Tim Horton

    We have a void on the second line RW. Anyone think we could be interested in bringing in Iggy to be Dion’s assistant. My other favorite option is sending JML + Percy (or D prospect) for Brett Connolly. After drafting Drouin, Tampa is stacked with wingers and need a major lift on D.

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      Tim Horton for connolly id throw in grabbo too…

  • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

    i have a hard time deciding between bozak and grabbo …… bozak has a much higher hockey sense and more versatile …. grabbo has more heart determination and no fear than almost anyone in league …. but if you take that heart and no fear away from grabbo , whats left ? a fuckin kostytsin !!!

    • 2minutes

      Grabo would punch you in the mouth for saying that.

      • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

        2minutes haha, no he wouldnt ……

    • 2minutes

      Grabo would punch you in the mouth for saying that.

  • Aaron Chan

    Morning folks

    • LeafsForLife

      Aaron Chan mornin aaron

    • Burtonboy

      Aaron Chan Good morning Aaron . What are you doing for the summer? Still in school ?

      • Aaron Chan

        Hey BB. I’m interning at a management consultancy this summer in Connecticut. Will admit, I’m usually thinking about hockey at work haha

        • Burtonboy

          Aaron Chan Hey good for you .

    • Mind Bomb

      Aaron Chan  Morning Aaron and Everyone :) is it good news today ? are we getting Son of Clark :0

      • Aaron Chan

        Hey MB. Correct me if I’m wrong but the timeline starting today is that player agents now have 48 hours to talk to teams now.

        • Mind Bomb

          Aaron Chan Yep, and I would think that Like the Vinnie scenario we will get constant update like hearing 3 teams are on Clarkson etc. Deal can be made, just cant be signed :)

  • Aaron Chan

    Morning folks

  • Great Dane

    Horton – isn’t it correct that going to have surgery and will be for some months?

    • Burtonboy

      Great Dane Pierre McQuire said he has to have surgery and will likely be out til Xmas or later

      • Great Dane

        Burtonboy Thanks see above

      • Great Dane

        Burtonboy Thanks see above

    • Burtonboy

      Great Dane Pierre McQuire said he has to have surgery and will likely be out til Xmas or later

  • Great Dane

    Horton – isn’t it correct that going to have surgery and will be for some months?

  • Wook

    Wayne Simmonds would be such a great fit as 2RW. I wonder if Holmgren would consider moving him given the cap situation. I guess it will have to start with Kulemin ++, which would obviously create another hole.

    • Burtonboy

      Wook Why not just use Clarkson :)))

      • Wook

        Burtonboy Wook Haha, why didn’t I think of that. We should talk more about Clarkson so I don’t forget about him. I just can’t see Nonis giving Clarkson the $$$ he is asking.

  • KingTon

    So wonder why Vinny signed with Philly?  One of the few teams offering a 5 year term?  I’m shocked Philly still attracts players as they do based on the history of how they’ve treated their players in the past.

    • Kouba

      KingTon It is much easier to understand basics of quantum mechanics than to understand Holmgren’s train of thoughts.

    • Wook

      KingTon That’s why every player adds a NTC to the agreement. Having said that, Holmgren seems to find a way around that as well. You have to give the guy credit, as reckless and ruthless as he can be, the guy sure knows how to keep things entertaining. I am glad that he is not our GM.

  • KingTon

    So wonder why Vinny signed with Philly?  One of the few teams offering a 5 year term?  I’m shocked Philly still attracts players as they do based on the history of how they’ve treated their players in the past.

  • http://twitter.com/jmckelvie RielledUp

    Dreger on TSN radio right now.

    • Kouba

      RielledUp What’s he saying?

      • http://twitter.com/jmckelvie RielledUp

        Kouba RielledUp talking about Bozak.

        • Kouba

          RielledUp Kouba Aha, he generated a new rumour, huh? Report when he is finished please, I’m in work :)

        • http://twitter.com/jmckelvie RielledUp

          Kouba RielledUp He;s done. Never said much at all.

        • Mind Bomb

          RielledUp Kouba  Thats when he is at his best ! :)

      • http://twitter.com/jmckelvie RielledUp

        Kouba RielledUp talking about Bozak.

  • Great Dane

    Guys, it is time for Nonis to get a bit creative with the roster.
    After buying out Komi there is about 19 million in cap space. 10 million will go to resign the RFAs – so Kadri, Franson, Gunnar and Bernier. Then Grabo and Liles could give another 9 million in cap space.
    We need a 1C center a couple of wingers and top 4 defense man.

    First trade for Stastny that takes 6.6 million of the cap.  Liles + some something else goes to Avs.
    Then sign Clarkson at 4.75 per year and Horton at 5.25 million per year.
    Cap problems – not necessarily.
    Nonis places Horton on LTIR list and he goes off the cap. 5.25 million removed for the start of the season – voila.
    Then trade Grabo + to Phoenix for Yandle. Sign Boyd Gordon / Pouliot

    Just need to keep 2 million in cap space for when Horton returns – next year the cap goes up.  Tucker and Armstrong are gone.

    • PeterZeroOne

      Great Dane Liles + something else?  What’s that something else?  I don’t want to give up any prospects.
      Also, why are we giving up on Grabo?  Isn’t it possible that with the Bolland signing he gets pushed up the depth chart to the 1C or 2C role, and Bolland takes over his shutdown role?
      Next, Yandle wouldn’t come cheap either.  He’s actually a very good defenseman.  So that means Reilly and Gardiner and who knows what else.

      • Great Dane

        PeterZeroOne Grabo and Kadri are too much the same type of center. that is why I would like to trade for Stastny.
        Phoenix would be in need of a center and Grabo is not a bad center at all. Kadri is just better for that position.

        • PeterZeroOne

          Great Dane PeterZeroOne I guess the question is – to get Stasny as a 1C they would probably want 1-2 prospects plus a roster player back.  So we’re talking, again, Gardiner and Reilly going the other way.  You’re probably plugging one hole by creating another, plus you’re giving away the future.  And is Stasny as 1C good enough to take the Leafs to the final?  Is he worth whatever ridiculous price we’d pay for him?

        • Great Dane

          PeterZeroOne Stastny will not give a return for Rielly or Gardiner.
          Liles – Percy and 4th round pick is a good return for Avs.

        • Wook

          Great Dane PeterZeroOne That would be an absolute robbery. I doubt that Sakic will do anything too risky in his first year as the GM.

        • Cameron19

          Wook Great Dane PeterZeroOne It would not be robbery at all.  No one is going to give them more than that.  They get an already 2 year developed first round pick.  Percy is a valuable piece.

        • Cameron19

          Wook Great Dane PeterZeroOne It would not be robbery at all.  No one is going to give them more than that.  They get an already 2 year developed first round pick.  Percy is a valuable piece.

    • Mike Bosse

      Great Dane Stastny, Clarkson, Hortand and Yandle…you might see Clarkson on Friday if not Nonis will ride the RFA bus and see how many walk which is a good option as well, there will be some good bang for the buck deals to be had….don’t spend to the cap yet with these older players

  • B_Leaf

    Hey Alec…nice write up. Don’t you think you are a little high on the RFA’s. I mean the club is in control on these. Franson and Kadri have only had one good season (and it was a short one at that). I am in no way doubting these guys but in the new cap structure RFA’s are going to take a big hit. No one can afford the offer sheet these guys.
    How can the Leafs pay Bernier more than Reimer? How can they possibly give Franson 3.3 and Gunnar 2.9? And Kadri still has to prove more before getting 3.5.
    I know term plays a big part, but these guys have to show more than one season to get term IMO. Here is where I think they will come in at:
    Kadri 2.6
    Gunnarsson 2.5
    Franson 2.3
    Bernier 1.8
    Fraser 1.0
    Colborne .925
    That is another 2.4M off the cap. That gives us 8M cap space. A Liles deal where we retain some salary probably frees up another $3M. With $11M that allows us opportunity to bring in for argument sake Bozak and Clarkson with hopefully a little wiggle room. That fills out the roster. DAmigo can play in Colbornes spot as well.
    Next year we have $2M coming off with tucker and Armstrong. Also the cap should go up. And if worst comes to worse and we need to use another buyout, we should hopefully still have it. Phaneuf probably comes back at a similar number, and kessel likely gets a raise, but i don’t think it will be significantly more than what he is already getting.

    • Wook

      B_Leaf Now that is what I call low-balling. I guess if you are going to low-ball anyone it would be your RFAs. I could see Franson pulling an ROR with that kind of offer.

      • Mind Bomb

        Wook B_Leaf  I could to Wook and Gunnar as well, and how many teams would like to screw the leafs ? and really 3,250,000 off only gets you a 2nd as compensation

        • Wook

          Mind Bomb Wook B_Leaf I think a case could be made against Franson and Gunnar using Subban’s two year contract. I was surprised that a team like the Oilers or Flyers didn’t put out an offer sheet to Subban. I guess Tambellini didn’t have the balls to do so, but I could see MacTavish doing something crazy in terms of offer sheets. Gunnar and Franson seem like ideal candidates for him.

        • Mind Bomb

          Wook Mind Bomb B_Leaf  Aye I am not saying its going to happen, but there is a Risk here, Franson was top 10 in D man scoring last year, Big and young, I would think there would be interest here

        • Wook

          Mind Bomb Wook B_Leaf I guess we’ll see Nonis in action with the RFAs. I am hoping for a pleasant surprise.

        • Mind Bomb

          Wook Mind Bomb B_Leaf  Same team Bro,

    • Great Dane

      B_Leaf Kadri, Gunnar and Franson just under 3 million would be a very good deal for the Leafs

    • Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs

      B_Leaf  
      Well if your the GM we will have another 11.1 million off the cap to go with your 2.4 miliion saving and alot of RFA’s traded for other players because non of them are going to accept those deals, they will get offended and either go to arbitration or ask to leave.

    • Jordan29

      I agree with you and dont listen to guys who say it’s super low ball. Nonis won’t pass out big raises to RFAS like people think, we never do

    • canuckintheuk

      B_Leaf  I see it as follows:
      Kadri- $2.8m
      Gunnar- $3m
      Franson $3m
      Bernier $1.9m
      Fraser $975k
      Colborne $1.1m

  • http://twitter.com/jmckelvie RielledUp

    The only “sure thing” I see the Leafs doing is signing Clarkson. I just hope it’s not for much… but this is my lineup if they stand pat and sign the RFAs (jesus I hope they don’t)
    Lupul-Kadri-Kessel
    JVR-Grabovski-Kulemin
    Colborne-Bolland-Clarkson
    D’Amigo-McClement-Orr
    McLaren
    Gunnarsson-Phaneuf
    Liles-Franson
    Gardiner-Holzer
    Rielly
    Reimer
    Bernier
    Not so good….

    • colino17

      RielledUp It’s going to be for “much” just hope its not for “TOO much”

  • Wook

    hoolihan I get the logic, but that line up will not take us to the playoffs.

    • Wook

      hoolihan Wook So that’s removing Bozak and Grabo and replacing them with Bolland and Hendricks and hoping for a better result than the past season. I do think that Bolland will be great for us, but not as a 2C.

    • hoolihan

      Wook hoolihan If memory serves me correctly, he was better offensively than Kadri in junior. Given the opportunity, and the wingers of course, I think he could put up better numbers than Grabovski while being more responsible defensively.

    • Burtonboy

      hoolihan Wook He didn’t do it playing with Kane  nd Sharp so I’m find it hard to think he would do it with the leafs . The Hawks have tried this guy as a 2 C several times and it wasn’t really successful

    • Wook

      Burtonboy hoolihan Wook I think the reason behind Nonis mentioning Bolland potentially playing a greater role than a 3C is to strengthen the appearance of the trade (i.e. we have a guy who is already known to be a warrior as a defensive centre and there may be some offensive upside left in him).

  • http://twitter.com/jmckelvie RielledUp

    Steve Simmons just agreed with Dreger on TSN Radio saying that Clarkson will command 6.5 million.

    • Burtonboy

      RielledUp Thats bat shit crazy . He might get it but it won’t be from the Leafs

      • http://twitter.com/jmckelvie RielledUp

        Burtonboy RielledUp Can they sign him and then compliance buyout 1 year later when they say “we told you you weren’t worth that much”.

        • Burtonboy

          RielledUp Burtonboy Why would you even want to do that? If you don’t think he’s worth 6.5 then why spend all that money

        • http://twitter.com/jmckelvie RielledUp

          Burtonboy RielledUp Because I still want him haha.

      • http://twitter.com/jmckelvie RielledUp

        Burtonboy RielledUp Can they sign him and then compliance buyout 1 year later when they say “we told you you weren’t worth that much”.

    • Wook

      RielledUp What is Clarkson basing his numbers on? The closest comparison may be Lucic at 6 mil. Absolutely ludicrous.

    • Jordan29

      Well they can both S this D because they are wrong. I remember last year they said Crosby would be wanting the maximum. We all laughed back home because everyone knew what he was looking for and it was no secrete. But yet these idiots had no clue. Fuck a pizza shop worker knew more then them lol

    • Great Dane

      RielledUp AT the price Nonis should be out.