UFA Day: It’s time for Nonis to deliver

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Dave Nonis
Chris Young/Canadian Press

With free agency upon us – and fresh on the heels of Mikhail Grabovski’s buyout – the Toronto Maple Leafs are going to be an incredibly different looking team come the fall.  Through General Manager Dave Nonis’ machinations since taking over the reins in January, the Leafs roster now looks more shallow and vulnerable than it did at the end of the season less than two months ago.

Quite simply, Nonis slowly and quietly backed himself into a corner with the choices he’s made since taking over from Brian Burke.  On a team that appeared to over perform benefitting from a shortened season, the general consensus was that there were a lot of upgrades that need to be made if this team was going to remain a winner.  Nonis has to have a master plan, because right now, the Maple Leafs do not look equipped to contend for their first back-to-back playoff berth since 2004. And that’s all on him.

I can think of four moves that Nonis has made in his tenure that I completely support, ones that showed clear direction and made the team better.  And they are all fairly marginal.  The first was the forcible demotion of Tim Connolly to the Toronto Marlies.  The other three were the trades of Matthew Lombardi, David Steckel and Mike Brown.   This freed up space for the likes of Nazem Kadri and Matt Frattin, young talent that made the team better.  It made the team look like a meritocracy.  Talent won out, and replacement level veterans were sent packing.

Just about every move he’s made since then, from acquiring Ryan O’Byrne and Frazer McLaren; and all-but-begging Calgary for Miikka Kiprusoff; to his recent off-season antics have been at best, dubious decisions that haven’t clearly made the team better at the time or down the road.

Even the area where Nonis is getting plaudits heading into today – cap management – appears to be something of an illusion.  As of this writing, the Leafs have a little less than $25-million in cap space available; second most in the league heading into free agency.

Half of that will quickly be eaten up in contract renewals for Kadri, Jonathan Bernier, Carl Gunnarsson, Cody Franson and Joe Colborne.  So they’ll realistically have about $12 million to play around with to replace an entire forward line (Grabovski, Frattin and MacArthur) while finding an upgrade on a rail-thin defense corps.

I’ve been told by many Leaf fans on Twitter since Thursday’s noontime bombshell to practice patience with Dave Nonis.  I don’t sit in on the meetings.  I’m not privy to the trade proposals being flung MLSE’s way.  I am not their organizational architect. They’ve got a point, certainly.

But patience is in short supply.  After only six months into his tenure as the general manager of the Toronto Maple Leafs, I believe that Nonis has inherited a playoff-calibre team assembled by Brian Burke and whittled it into something almost undefinable.   He’s stripped the team of a few cheap, useful parts.  His availed cap space only becomes beneficial if he uses to it to upgrade on parts let go or expunged; not to re-sign Tyler Bozak or overpay on a similar mediocre center talent. The team has let go of their only centre to crack 50 points in a single season.  He solidified goaltending, though it was not an area on anyone’s radar and comes potentially at the cost of destabilizing morale.

This is his time.  He’s got two months, starting at noon today, to reforge this team into his own image.  There’s no greater stage in hockey than Toronto, and Dave Nonis is going to have to put on one hell of a show to convince me that he’s building a winner.  Cause it’ll be his job (and fans’ hopes) that’ll get terminated if not.

  • steele123

    I think something big will happen, all these moves especially the buyout of Grabbo must lead to something big and if it doesn’t there we have every right to question the leadership.

    I wonder how much of the second guessing of Nonis is tied directly to our fanboy love, admiration and respect of Burke and we’ve placed an ungodly amount of pressure on Nonis because he picked up the gig right after Burke was fired.

    • theacs1966

      steele123 I trust BB over Nonis but he could change my mind by the end of the dayl.  I’m not holding my breath though.

  • Savo43

    What time doesthe ufa period begin?? I’m on a house boat in the middle of shuswap lolll.

    • SteveHoltom

      Savo43 Drop in on Cody Franson while you’re there. I hope they lock him into a good contract.

    • 1DERYRS

      Savo43 12pm EST

  • Cameron19

    To console us if all Nonis does is waste the new cap space on Bozak: http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/2013/07/05/why_tyler_bozak_is_worth_five_years_25_million.html

    • Cameron19

      canuckintheuk Cameron19 Oh I know, it’s a terrible article.  I could destroy every one of his points – but at least someone is trying, lol.

    • theacs1966

      canuckintheuk Cameron19 Depends, what is the exchange rate on English Pounds to American dollars today?

      • colino17

        theacs1966 canuckintheuk Cameron19 3.8 million pounds is likely almost 5 million dollars so I guess Canuck agrees with the article lol

      • theacs1966

        colino17 theacs1966 canuckintheuk Cameron19 It wasn’t a serious question.  JUst being a smartass.

      • colino17

        theacs1966 colino17 canuckintheuk Cameron19 as was I 😉

    • Great Dane

      Cameron19 He will make a good agent, if he believes all that himself.

  • Kouba

    Isn’t deliver synonym to give birth? English l. is fun sometimes.

  • theacs1966

    Could be worse people, we could have Gillis as GM and no cap space and an old team.

    • king leary

      Totally agree. It’ll be a bummer if we end up managing cap space for its own sake (or worse overpaying guys and moving sideways) but temper tantrums and grief over losing grabbo aside,our team is being run professionally. Even if we take one step back to go two forward, I believe.

  • Dink

    Important day for David Nonis

  • Jordan29

    So important I’m leaving work early. Let’s get this going!

    • Loric76

      Jordan29 I stayed home lol

  • 1DERYRS

    Side Note to the Frenzy… If Giroux gets 8.275 mil per year for 8 years what are we going to have to pay Kessel?? Giroux doesn’t even have a 30-goal season under his belt

    • Jordan29

      6-7 mil at most

    • Loric76

      1DERYRS can’t include anything Holmgren does in comparibles.  He’s fucking nuts

    • Cameron19

      1DERYRS Giroux is a center – they will always get more than wingers.  I would say that Letang’s contract is more of an indicator of what to expect with Kessel.

    • Jantz

      1DERYRS That contract has clearly made Kessel’s floor @ 7.5. No home town discount for Giroux. Holmgren just potentially ruined our shot at a reasonable deal for Phil.

  • TOHockeyNut

    I don’t see enough available through UFA that will fill the holes that have been created and fit in under the cap. If there is not a big trade coming, I don’t see this team being any stronger than last year.

  • Komas Taberle

    Baby Huey has a fistfull of cash and he better spend it wisely!

  • Uncle Otis

    The following( from above ) is contradictory logic IMO
    “On a team that appeared to over perform benefitting from a shortened season, the general consensus was that there were a lot of upgrades that need to be made if this team was going to remain a winner.  Nonis has to have a master plan, because right now, the Maple Leafs do not look equipped to contend for their first back-to-back playoff berth since 2004. And that’s all on him.”
    IF it’s true that the club “over performed” ,then why should Nonis sit still and HOPE for the same?
    And seeing that Burke gets all the credit for the team assembled, then how is it “all on him”(Nonis)
    I find there is a real bias towards Nonis on here and it’s mostly because he ISNT Brian Burke
    Let the guy FINISH his makeover before the long knives are drawn please.
    All IMHO

    • Cameron19

      Uncle Otis I’m totally willing to let him finish what he’s doing.  It’s just that, you can still sort of see where he’s going with this – and I don’t like it.  If he surprises me and doesn’t do what I think he’s going to do, than of course I will change my mind,

      • theacs1966

        Cameron19 Uncle Otis I can be quite reasonable when things go the way I want, just doesn’t look like it is, but I could be wrong.  We’ll know more today and tomorrow.

      • Uncle Otis

        Cameron19 
        Michael deems the demotion/deletion of Connolly and Lombo as “marginal” moves
        Burke was loyal to a fault,and had he been here,could quite likely encouraged they stay as part of the team/build as assets.
        Leafs do NOT make the playoffs last year with those two in the line-up IMO
        Hardly marginal,but rather astute.

        • Cameron19

          Uncle Otis Cameron19 Yea, I think that’s total nonsense though. Burke had actually already pre-arranged the Lombardi trade, which Nonis admitted to, and he likely would have dumped Connolly, which he had hinted at doing several times.  People just didn’t want to believe that he would do these things because it was popular to think of him as too stubborn for that sort of thing – despite the fact he’d dumped players several times. 

          The one thing he maybe did in that respect that Burke might not have, is the situation with Komisarek.  Burke really cared about contract clauses, and I’m not sure it would have sat well with him that RC just continually benched Komi until he asked to be demoted.

        • Uncle Otis

          Cameron19 
          We’ll never know for sure Cam
          The only thing we DO know for certain is that Nonis DID what Burke should have done earlier
          That’s on the record.

        • dlb eh

          Cameron19 Uncle Otis 
          thankfully, some people recognize the truth and are happy to remember the way it really happened

        • Cameron19

          Uncle Otis Cameron19 Sure.

      • sniperstar

        Cameron19 Uncle Otis u mean in connor mcdavids direction?

    • Jantz

      Uncle Otis Completely agree with you.

    • dlb eh

      Uncle Otis
      Nonis started his tenure as GM with a lot more fanfare than Burke left with, despite a lot of us defending BB to no end.  It didn’t take long for people to turn on Nonis…and his half-painted picture lol.
      Leafs fans are rediculous.  I mean, we had a little success last year and suddenly we’re kings of some shit mountain but still always waiting for the worst.  Whining about things I never knew existed or could have imagined.   It’s downright embarrassing at times.

  • theacs1966

    Here’s a scarry thought.  Kovalchuk.  Yikes!

    • colino17

      theacs1966 Kovi’s cap hit doesn’t look nearly as bad looking at what some idiots are getting now…not advocating tho

  • Jantz

    This isn’t the Florida Marlins…… of course he will be spending all if not most of the remaining cap room. Clearly you seem as delusional as many of Grabo’s supporters yesterday. Let’s see what happens today and going in to the season.
    You didn’t even mention the acquisition of Bolland in your main article and as much I did not want to see Frattin leave town, Bernier is really well liked by the majority of the hockey world.

  • Cameron19

    Even though there aren’t a lot of players I’m really interested in (or interested in paying top dollar for, more appropriately), there sure are a ton of names on the market today.

    • Great Dane

      Cameron19 Sure there is but Nonis has to deliver otherwise I fail to the Grand Plan behind this.
      Maybe it is better to sign some of the lower cap hit players like Pouliot who did not qualified and hope for the best instead of overpaying to fail

      • Cameron19

        Great Dane Cameron19 Yea, now that the day is actually here, I hope we’re bargain hunting.  I would like Scuderi for 2-3 years on the back-end, and maybe some off-the-board selections for forward, like Matt Cooke, and Matt Cullen.

        • Great Dane

          Cameron19 Schultz, Gilbert something one like that at 1.5 million 1-2 year contracts and trade those that give a return

        • Jantz

          Cameron19 Great Dane Not sure about Cullen but I would be very happy with the other two. Please don’t pay Clarkson more than 4.25-4.5.

        • bermudaboy

          Cameron19 Great Dane Yeah, let’s all remember that the unheralded at the time signing of McClement turned out very well.

    • Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs

      Cameron19  
      Why has no one mentioned Peter Mueller. Is he really already washed up. There were signs last year on a very flat team of ability??

      • theacs1966

        Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs Cameron19 Who?  Maybe thats why, I don’t know who he is or what team he’s from?

        • Cameron19

          theacs1966 Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs Cameron19 Drafted very high years ago, by the Coyotes.  Got traded to Colorado for Wolski.  Got concussed super bad, missed a year, found God, and signed with the Panthers…

        • Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs

          theacs1966
          What?
          Peter Muellar. drafted by Pheonix, played for Colarado. Has had concussion issues but seems to be coming out of them. Can score at an alarming rate on the right team. Can play center and RW. Will cost 1.5million. Try him out see what happens.
          If he doesnt fit No1 center try him on 2nd RW. That doesnt work promote Kulemin and chuck him on third. For a player of his calibre at 1.5million hes worth a gamble.

        • theacs1966

          Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs theacs1966 I remember him now, he came in same year as Duchene.  No?  Don’t want someone with well documented brain injuries, I’ll pass.

        • Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs

          Cameron19
          Thats the one. I reckon hes the sleeper. (not a concusion joke, lol)
          He has to be worth a punt.

        • Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs

          theacs1966
          what, youd pass on Crosby??
          If he gets injured then play a youngster in the mean time. There is no way someone is going to burn 4m on the guy and give him a 7 year deal. But 1.5million on a 2 year deal. If he does get injured and put out of the game it wont be like dealing with a Pronger contract. Its a very safe gamble and the rewards could be enormous.

        • theacs1966

          Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs theacs1966 Ya, LTIR protects the cap but I still don’t want him, just like I don’t want Weiss, same reason.  Hurt most of the last 18 months, 1 goal in 17 gms last year.1 goal!  For 750k, OK, for 4 mil+ no way.

  • leafscapguru

    lets face it people we were never a Stanley cup team, we were barely making the playoffs.  The only choice was to upgrade on lose ends. Grabo was never consider to be a threat and neither was komi. 2 great buyouts IMO.  have a feeling we get 2 players in FA and we trade to improve. For the first time in a long time I like this team.  We have a GM that has the balls to change, and the season hasn’t started yet lots of time to build.

  • Jantz

    With the shortage of cap space around the league, I sure hope he saves a little room to capitalize on a good player at bargain basement pricing similar to what Minnesota did with Ballard yesterday and when Burke acquired McCarthur in Aug of 2010 ( I believe ) for 1M and change.

    • theacs1966

      Jantz Bobby Sanguinetti from Carolina.  25, 6 foot 2, good skater, 16 minutes a game, UFA 700K.

      • sniperstar

        theacs1966 Jantz wouldnt be too bad. A friend who loves the canes is always pumping bobs tires

        • theacs1966

          sniperstar theacs1966 Jantz I have nothing better to do and am an insomniac, so I was scouring Capgeek and found a couple like that, can’t remember the other guy but he averaged 19 minutes was an RFA but wasn’t qualified.

      • Jantz

        theacs1966 Jantz I wouldn’t know Bobby if I ran him over with my car. lol. I will take your word for it.

  • king leary

    This might be heresy but: everyone here assumes the leafs are determined that next year’s team be immediately better. I’m not sure they feel that they way. If a great but risky club-transforming deal is there, great – but if the two new guys at the helm see flaws and can’t address them through trade or FA then I think they are fine with letting things take longer.
    This especially makes sense if they viewed last year’s success as great, but a potential outlier.

    • Cameron19

      king leary If that’s the case, fine. I  agree with that outlook.  But if that were my outlook, and I was running the team, the first thing I’d do is lock up Kessel and Phaneuf.  That, or trade them. Because if we decide to take a few steps back here, I don’t think those two are going to want to go through that again, and we can’t afford to lose them for nothing.

      • Uncle Otis

        Cameron19 
        And by the time we “rebuild” ,they will be past prime.
        If a blockbuster is in the makings,I believe it’s Kessel,Gardiner or JVR Nonis uses as bait…we’ll see.

        • Mind Bomb

          Uncle Otis Cameron19   It will be  Kadri bro

        • Uncle Otis

          Mind Bomb Uncle Otis Cameron19 
          Yikes..hope not
          You could be right

    • NotInsane

      king leary 
      Totally agree.  They are trying to bring in stars and talent — not just make the playoffs.  Leiweke said as much.

  • jayman87

    Good morning Leaf fans. Just thinking out loud here. The leafs & blues were reported talking at the draft. Nonis made some cap room. St. louis has an internal cap ( which I believe they are close to.) and have a certain rfa that wants 7mil per yr. Would a Pietrangelo for lets say kulemin (which they’ve been interested in for a while) + gunnarson (cheaper dman) + next yrs 1st and 2nd be possible? Again just thinking out lound

    • theacs1966

      jayman87 I think they would want Gardiner.

      • TOHockeyNut

        theacs1966 jayman87 We already moved two cheap cap hit in Scrivens and Frattin. I sure hope Nonis doesn’t move Gardiner as he will be the best value on our roster this year.

        • theacs1966

          TOHockeyNut theacs1966 jayman87 We have more puck moving D than most, so if we use one to get better at another position (C) then Im for it, otherwise I want to keep him.  And Im talking about a real humdinger of a centre, now Weiss or Stastny et al.

        • theacs1966

          TOHockeyNut theacs1966 jayman87 **NOT Weiss or Stastny et al.

      • bear19

        theacs1966 jayman87  
        who doesn’t?

        • theacs1966

          bear19 theacs1966 jayman87 The ones that keep talking about Weiss, Stasny, Boyd Gordon among other mediocre players.

    • Cameron19

      jayman87 They are reportedly close to moving Halak to Philly, and at the draft they were trying to move Perron.  I suspect they would move players in this order: Halak, Perron, Polak, Jackman and Stewart/Berglund….before losing Pietrangelo.

      • jayman87

        Cameron19 jayman87  Fair points. Would be a nice dman to pair with phaneuf though. One can dream lol : )

    • Jantz

      jayman87 The starting price for AP is Gardiner, Reilly or Kadri plus whatever other pieces if I’m St Louis.

  • Burtonboy

    The vast majority of people fans and media alike with some exceptions ( Cam lol ) keep throwing all these advanced stats at us to justify their hatred of Carlyle and the buyout of Grabo. The big problem for me is regardless of these stats which are for the most part before this season the Leafs were not a winning team and were never going to be under a RW system . We are trying to ( I hope) build a contender and for me individual stats mean sweet fuck all . I could give two fiddlers fucks about Corsi ,Fenwick and that other gibberish if it doesn’t produce a winner. Useless without the “w’s” in the win coloumn

    • ConnorCrisp

      Grabbos contract would have set unrealistic expectations for our RFA’s and certainly our big UFA’s next year. Knocked the whole scale out of whack.

      • Jantz

        ConnorCrisp That’s a very good point that I didn’t think of.

      • Loric76

        ConnorCrisp great point

      • dlb eh

        ConnorCrisp 
        the only way you’re wrong is if Grabovski played like our best player.  not impossible, but it’s more likely can turn into the right direction.

    • dlb eh

      Burtonboy 
      that’s the stat that matters.  wins.
      i still remember fondly our best penalty killer…Dupuis something or other.  i still remember arguing with almost everyone that he was a lousy player.  stats can suck it.

      • Jantz

        dlb eh Burtonboy Agreed. If he had scored 5 goals off his ass instead of being snakebit with zero, no one would have had a problem with him.

    • Great Dane

      Burtonboy  Burton Boy – Chairman for the Conservative Hockey Observers   LOL.
      But I fully agree – advanced stats doesn’t mean at thing if you ain’t got that win.
      Problem with the Leafs – and I will repeat myself – too much of the same. Last season we had 2.5 2nd line centers.
      We had 5 5-7 d-men – doesn’t work that way

    • leafscapguru

      Burtonboy Corsi stats are only for morons, who like a player.  im sure there is a corsi stat that is horrible for a great player but that stat makes him look bad.  maybe Toews in the playoffs, doesn’t make him a bad player. Stats don’t show everything

    • Uncle Otis

      Burtonboy
      Burtonboy 
      Right on BB..in the end,thats the ONLY stat that matters,and there are many ways to get there.
      This group believes in tough teams with Defense first,from the tender out.
      So do I

      • Komas Taberle

        Uncle Otis Burtonboy That;s how you build a winning hockey team

      • Burtonboy

        Uncle Otis Burtonboy I’m too old to understand anything other then the win column and the joy of winning a cup lol. Its all that matters inthe enad and if you listen to Carlyle he talks only about winning hockey games .

      • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

        Uncle Otis Burtonboy Can you just picture these stats geeks moaning and agonizing over the 1980’s Oilers? Fuhr’s save percentage sucks, not enough offensive zone starts..blah, blah , blah. Yet 5 rings…hmmm, go figure.

        • Uncle Otis

          ingy56 
          Different era,but hell ya.
          Some of these stat heads simply never played the game/understand intangibles.
          That’s why I love Anthony’s analysis ..the guy gets it.

  • Komas Taberle

    Here are our needs, we don;t have to fill them today but should try to achieve about 75% of them.
    #2 Dman, #1 centre, 2nd right winger power forward, sign RFA’s.
    If we do 3 out of 4 today and start talks for a trade to fill the other spot we are in good hands.

  • Loric76

    Unless there’s a blockbuster trade in our horizon for a young 1C, here’s what I think will happen.  No Weiss, no Bozak, no more bullshit centers.

    CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
    My Custom Lineup
    FORWARDS
    Joffrey Lupul ($5.250m) / Nazem Kadri ($3.000m) / Phil Kessel ($5.400m) 
    Jerry D’Amigo ($1.083m) / Dave Bolland ($3.375m) / Nikolai Kulemin ($2.800m) 
    James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Joe Colborne ($1.000m) / David Clarkson ($5.000m) 
    Frazer McLaren ($0.750m) / Jay McClement ($1.500m) / Colton Orr ($0.925m) 
    Carter Ashton ($1.040m) / 
    DEFENSEMEN
    Carl Gunnarsson ($3.000m) / Dion Phaneuf ($6.500m) 
    Jake Gardiner ($1.117m) / Cody Franson ($2.500m) 
    Mark Fraser ($0.900m) / John-Michael Liles ($3.875m) 
    Korbinian Holzer ($0.788m) / 
    GOALTENDERS
    James Reimer ($1.800m) 
    Jonathan Bernier ($1.900m) 
    OTHER
    Buyout: Darcy Tucker ($1.000m) 
    Buyout: Colby Armstrong ($1.000m) 
    RETAINED SALARY TRANSACTIONS (0.778% of upper limit)
    Matt Frattin ($0.437m—0.5%) Ben Scrivens ($0.062m—0.1%) 
    ——
    CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
    (these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
    SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $60,251,667; BONUSES: $712,500
    CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $4,760,833

    • Cameron19

      Loric76 Awful.

      • Loric76

        Cameron19 Loric76 yup, didn’t say it was pretty.  It’s not a playoff team IMO.

      • Loric76

        Cameron19 Loric76 just getting the sense Nonis might be thinking we need to slow down and get a few more high end prospects through the draft.  Not sure why or where I’m getting that feeling tho

    • dlb eh

      Loric76 
      cap geek re-arrange your lines for you?
      i hate the defense if it’s the same as last year.  i fucking hate it.  fack

    • Jantz

      Loric76 Don’t want Bolland as a 2C.

      • Loric76

        Jantz Loric76 remember in RC’s lines the 2nd line is the primary shutdown line, and the 3rd line is secondary scoring.

        • Jantz

          Loric76 Jantz Forgot about that and if that is our roster than perhaps Colbourne can break through this year.

  • NotInsane

    There’s only one player on the “out” list who was an important part of the team last season: Bozak.  MacA and Frattin were scratched in the regular season and playoffs while Grabovski failed to deliver in a reduced role.

    • Cameron19

      NotInsane lol, Scratched at all means they didn’t contribute?

  • colino17

    TheCanucksnaphook GOOD! Nonis SHOULDN’T DO 5×5….wouldn’t be fair should be 8×8 JKJK

  • Cameron19

    TheCanucksnaphook “Told instead he will go 7X7 for Weiss!”

    • colino17

      Cameron19 TheCanucksnaphook yikes…don’t think I would give Weiss much, if any, more than I would give Bozie

    • dlb eh

      Cameron19 TheCanucksnaphook 
      what’s Weiss worth?
      i still don’t know what type of player he is, partly because he’s been in FLA and partly because he never seems to be playing

  • Great Dane

    TheCanucksnaphook Thank you thank you thank you

  • newkb

    Michael, I agree with this synopsis.  Nonis is either being pushed or panicking….either way, unless he pulls a rabbit out of his hat, I’ll be pissed.  Not that I totally disagree with all his moves, but this team is much weaker now even when they sign Weiss/Bozak and Clarkson to inflated, boat anchor contracts.

    • dlb eh

      newkb 
      pushed, panicking…or meticulous and calculated

      • newkb

        dlb eh newkb Remains to be seen….if the Leafs end up overpaying for crap today, I’ll be on the fire Nonis bandwagon…

  • .JVR.

    TheCanucksnaphook 
    I loved the way he played, but his contract was just too much!

  • Jordan29

    If no Bozak then we better be looking at Riberio or no UFA period. We have our own average 2-3 liners to fill those spots. I will be very disappointed if we overpay for Weiss

    • .JVR.

      Jordan29 
      I’d rather overpay for Weiss, than overpay for Bozak.

      • Jordan29

        Depends. I really didn’t watch Weiss enough to comment.

        • .JVR.

          Jordan29 
          Bozak couldn’t carry Weiss’ jockstrap!

    • happy_gilmour

      Jordan29 What about the trade route?  I’m hoping for that…

      • Jordan29

        Well yes and I would hope he’s smart enough to do that. I just have no faith in nonis yet

  • Boblav

    I couldn’t,t agree more with this artcle. But I would also like to add that I am flabbergasted that seguin is in Dallas. He is the young center that nonis should have targeted. That’s twice now that we’ve lost out on this local boy with unlimited upside. The corner that nonis has painted himself in will result in paying more than he should for players with less potential or a team with less depth. They could have easily traded a contract like jvr for seguin – the young center they’ve always needed, used grabovski’s cap space to resign bozak and then used their initial cap space to sign Carlson to replace jvr. sure it might have also cost us gauthier, but seguin is 21. What fucking pisses me off so much is why this fucking joker cannot figure this out. With seguin, bozak, bolland, kadri, and mackekren, you’ve got depth at center comparable to any team in the league. You still have lupul, kessel, clarkson, kulemin, kadri and mackekren for wing on the first 3 lines. I’m so sick of the incompetence in such a great city. Now we’re thinking about letting gretszky suck on the tit of this cash cow, when he has never helped the leafs once in his career, including during the recent recruitment of Schultz when he was a free agent. Fuuuuuuuuck

    • GeorgeCastanza

      Boblavwho’s mackekren?

      • Uncle Otis

        GeorgeCastanza
        Release the Mackekren ? 😉

        • Dink

          Uncle Otis GeorgeCastanza I did

        • Uncle Otis

          @Dink 
          I know…love that line!

      • bermudaboy

        GeorgeCastanza Boblav Secret Weapon!

    • leafscapguru

      Boblav screw Seguin

    • dlb eh

      Boblav 
      whine much?  no wonder you like Seguin so much.  common ground.

      • LeafsForLife

        dlb eh Boblav seguin is the whiniest whiner that ever whined!

    • sniperstar

      Boblav you really think boston would move him to a divisional rival and especially the leafs? They’d tar and feather Chiarelli.

      • colino17

        sniperstar Boblav Kessel?

  • TOHockeyNut

    Assuming that we sing our RFAs that were on the roster last year, the upgrades required are as follows.
    Scrivens replaced with Bernier (definite upgrade)
    Grabovski replaced with Bolland (upgraded on the defensive/shut down role)

    We need upgrades to
    Frattin with ?
    Komarov with ?
    Bozak with ? 
    McCarthur with ?

    Fill in the blanks with 12 mil in CAP space and there is your team.

    • .JVR.

      TOHockeyNut 
      Replace Frattin with Clarkson at $4-$5 million
      Replace Komarov with D’Amigo at $900K
      Replace Bozak with Weiss @ $4-$5 million
      MacArthur doesn’t need replaced

      JVR   –   Weiss   –   Kessel
      Lupul   –   Kadri   –   Clarkson
      D’Amigo   –   Bolland   –   Kulemin
      McLaren   –   McClement   –   Orr

      Could also sign somebody like Boyd Gordon to centre the fourth line, move McClement to the wing and resign McLaren to be the 13th forward.

      • Cameron19

        .JVR. TOHockeyNut Ugh, and we’re in the exact same position as we were before using compliance buyouts – overpaying for mediocrity.  Yay!

        • TOHockeyNut

          Cameron19 .JVR. TOHockeyNut The only upgrade I see there is Clarkson and only from an experience stand point.

        • newkb

          Cameron19 .JVR. TOHockeyNut Exactly….then what will the point have been?  There is absolutely nothing out there worth overpaying for…at all.

        • TOHockeyNut

          newkb Cameron19 .JVR. TOHockeyNut Agreed.

        • Dink

          newkb Cameron19 .JVR. TOHockeyNut true

        • .JVR.

          Cameron19
          How do you figure?

          Weiss is an upgrade on Bozak.
          Kadri is an upgrade on Grabovski
          Clarkson is an upgrade on Frattin
          Bolland is better defensively than Kadri
          Losing Komarov hurts, but D’Amigo is great defensively

  • Uncle Otis

    TheCanucksnaphook 
    Yep..I’m out too Phook
    That’s insane.

    • Mind Bomb

      Uncle Otis TheCanucksnaphook  Yep do nothing Today Nonis, unless its a Trade or a Scuderi Signing

      • Uncle Otis

        Mind Bomb 
        Dare to dream…I want Tavares

      • theacs1966

        Uncle Otis Mind Bomb I second the motion.  With Wong or Wang as owner, you never  know. “I’m paying him how much?”  “Trade his ass”.

      • Mind Bomb

        Uncle Otis Mind Bomb  Hells ya !

      • Uncle Otis

        Mind Bomb 
        It would take something awful like Kadri,Gardiner and a pick
        I’d still do it
        Proven superstar

      • theacs1966

        Uncle Otis Mind Bomb A little crazy, but I’d do it too.

      • colino17

        theacs1966 Uncle Otis Mind Bomb NO

      • Uncle Otis

        theacs1966 
        Well I’d prefer less of course,but that’s the kind of offer it would take IMO
        Could backfire,but you know you have a franchise player for life..and he’s one of the best.

  • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

    TheCanucksnaphook Stupid

  • colino17

    TheCanucksnaphook stupid money…does no one realize that the cap went DOWN?

    • newkb

      TheCanucksnaphook colino17 Still not even close to worth it..ugh.

  • Jordan29

    Everyone remember this but I’m guessing by the end of the week Stastny, Clarkson and Scuderi are leafs

    • NotInsane

      Jordan29 
      Why Statsny?

    • Loric76

      Jordan29 So Bozak, Horton, and Ference it is then

      • .JVR.

        Loric76
        Horton isn’t coming to Toronto.
        Guy doesn’t like big markets, besides some of my buddies grew up with him and have told me that he hates the Leafs.

        • Loric76

          .JVR. Loric76 I know, just trying to get under Jordan’s skin lol

        • Jantz

          .JVR. Loric76 Fuck Horton.

  • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

    colino17 …and this is the company that owns the team eh? Scary.

    • colino17

      ingy56 colino17 must be why he got bought out…so he can pursue a career as a Belarussian ice dancer

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      TheCanucksnaphook ingy56 colino17 Absolutely, when I was with Bell they gave a colleague an award for sales, brought the suits in and everything. Spelled his name wrong on the plaque. Brutal. Of course, we called him by that name forever afterwards.

  • Boblav

    Sorry mclemment

  • Komas Taberle

    TheCanucksnaphook Greger also said the leafs would be ;uck to get a 2nd rounder for kaberle and that U Kulemin was worth 4M

    • Komas Taberle

      TheCanucksnaphook Fuck can’t type today!

    • Dink

      Komas Taberle TheCanucksnaphook huh

  • newkb

    TheCanucksnaphook Run, don’t walk! #boatanchor

  • Cameron19

    A name we may target is Toni Lydman.  Carlyle really liked him in Anaheim.

    • dlb eh

      Cameron19 
      that’s all the reason we need to book it

  • leafscapguru

    I hope Edmonton signs Clarkson to a stupid contract will force there hand to trade some really good assets

  • Area49th

    How is NJ paying Clowe,buttons?

    • Uncle Otis

      Area49th 
      Raw meat and steroids

  • Jantz

    TheCanucksnaphook Run away run away.

    • theacs1966

      Jantz TheCanucksnaphook What a gallant retreat.

      • theacs1966

        Jantz TheCanucksnaphook Get the holy handgrenade.

  • GeorgeCastanza

    oh god.  Today’s gonna get crazy. I predict a site crash.

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      GeorgeCastanza I hope there’s lots of bridge monitors out there, lots ready to jump yesterday. The bandwagon is going to need to go in the shop after this for new springs.

      • GeorgeCastanza

        ingy56 GeorgeCastanza yup.  It’s goin from “on the bandwagon” to “off the bandwagon” to “circling the the bandwagon”

  • KingTon

    TheCanucksnaphook Weren’t you one of the ones claiming it needed to happen?

  • Uncle Otis

    TheCanucksnaphook 
    Lou has pull

  • Loric76

    TheCanucksnaphook let me guess, Philly.  Holmgren’s trying to sign the entire league

  • 1DERYRS

    what’s the Over/Under at how many people we are going to get “Listening” on the site today?

    • Uncle Otis

      TheCanucksnaphook
      Ill take over..lots of dummies like me never log out.

    • Area49th

      1DERYRS 350 over

    • .JVR.

      TheCanucksnaphook
      We’re already at 214 and it’s only 9:10 am.
      I could see us doubling that number during the lunch hour.

    • Jantz

      1DERYRS It was at 375 at one point yesterday.

    • dlb eh

      1DERYRS 
      i’d say we’ll breach 500 today

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      1DERYRS I just hope I don’t get a seizure from watching this page scroll up and down 15 times/sec.

      • colino17

        ingy56 1DERYRS I’m already starting to twitch

  • Loric76

    TheCanucksnaphook gotta be about Clarkson then

  • theacs1966

    TheCanucksnaphook I hope it was Bozak and the offer was 6mil.

  • Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs

    My shopping list for the next couple of weeks. Id like to know what you think. I havent included trades as Im not that keen on doing them but the players I want in are there and the final lines.
    Peter Mueller from UFA signed to a 1.5m per year 2 year deal. Can play both Center and RW

    Trade and get one of either Okposo from NYI or get Thornton from SJ and take the 7m hit for one year – designed to give Kadri extra time before putting him on the top line AND see if Mueller can be salvaged from the scrap heap.
    Sign Ference and pay him well. Not sure if we could afford Ference and Thornton, Liles would have to be traded out for a pick and we would have to put another youngster in.
    Trade away Gunnarsons rights.
     

    If Thornton
    Kessel – Thornton -Lupul
    JVR – Kadri – Mueller
    Kulemin – Bolland – McClementOrr – Colborne – D’Amigo
    If Okposo
    Kessel – Kadri – Lupul
    JVR – Mueller – Okposo
    Kulemin – Bolland – McClement
    Orr – Colborne – D’Amigo

    Franson – Phaneuf
    Gardiner – Ference
    Holzer – Liles

    Bernier
    Riemer

    • Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs

      TheCanucksnaphook
      They may well like the idea of having Big Joe around for a year as mentor. Yes its 7million  but what a playmaker and size to have with Kessel. Kessel 50 goals will be as happy as could be knowing he could ask for upwards of 8million.Could be a very good year with him on side. I would happily give up a first for 1 year of Joe. SJ will want cap room and a place to move Couture into. Poor lad was found on SJ third line alot last year